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On November 02 2017 04:21 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 04:14 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 04:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 02 2017 03:59 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:54 darthfoley wrote:On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different. Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing. Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia. The jury is still out but you don't think the guy is mafia? So the jury is in? lolwat Yes, the bickering between him and shockey was enough for me. Either they're both scum or theyre both town. I read this as "I still haven't made a decision, so let me claim both". What makes the bickering between us aligned some how? lol I've called you town, and I'm now calling conversion town. It means you're both town. What I mean by my "both scum" statement is that the only time I've seen people attack each other like that in that manner where is when the both are scum, not as Scum v Town. Pretty much what it was like when I and rsoul bussed each other as scum. Wait wait wait. Didn't you say you agreed with tick tocks read on shockey's? Ticktock thinks shockey's is mafia but you think he's town.
No I don't agree, but I understand his reasoning.
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TT thinks shockey is scum.
I think shockey is lynch bait.
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On November 02 2017 04:09 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 03:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2017 03:59 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:54 darthfoley wrote:On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to m e.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different. Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing. Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia. The jury is still out but you don't think the guy is mafia? So the jury is in? lolwat Yes, the bickering between him and shockey was enough for me. Either they're both scum or theyre both town. tell me why you think that ticktoc is confirmed town? Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 23:44 ruXxar wrote:
Tick tock - I like tick tock. His string of posts shows he’s interested in having an opinion.
His thoughts are flowing well.
He’s a town lean.
I like his tone. Light hearted and jovial, the same way I play when I'm excited to roll town. His reads are good and consistent on HF and Shockey. Reads the game pretty much the same way I do, which makes it look like he doesn't have a whacky agenda. Explains his reads so that you can see where he's coming from with his thought process.
On November 01 2017 12:37 Tictock wrote:
Humm, Shokey's more recent posts are ok, but I'm not a fan of the "I play like lynchbait to catch scum" defense.
Especially when he's apparently abandoning that strategy as soon as the pressure is starting to build.
Still the best early vote imo.
On November 02 2017 04:14 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 04:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 02 2017 03:59 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:54 darthfoley wrote:On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different. Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing. Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia. The jury is still out but you don't think the guy is mafia? So the jury is in? lolwat Yes, the bickering between him and shockey was enough for me. Either they're both scum or theyre both town. I read this as "I still haven't made a decision, so let me claim both". What makes the bickering between us aligned some how? lol I've called you town, and I'm now calling conversion town. It means you're both town. .
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If I had no prior experience with shockey I would most likely also call him scum.
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On November 02 2017 04:25 ruXxar wrote:
If I had no prior experience with shockey I would most likely also call him scum.
Not relevant.
1. You claim to be "light-hearted and jovial" when in fact since this game got outta the honeymoon phase you have been anything but.
2. Town read of ticktock doesn't have a good basis
3. List of useless townreads halfway into day 1 that doesn't engage anyone or actually advance the thread but still looks useful
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On November 02 2017 04:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 04:25 ruXxar wrote:
If I had no prior experience with shockey I would most likely also call him scum. Not relevant. 1. You claim to be "light-hearted and jovial" when in fact since this game got outta the honeymoon phase you have been anything but. 2. Town read of ticktock doesn't have a good basis 3. List of useless townreads halfway into day 1 that doesn't engage anyone or actually advance the thread but still looks useful
1) I did not claim otherwise.
2) That's your opinion. I disagree.
3) Again you're picking one post and ignoring my engagement with conversion.
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On November 02 2017 04:34 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 04:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2017 04:25 ruXxar wrote:
If I had no prior experience with shockey I would most likely also call him scum. Not relevant. 1. You claim to be "light-hearted and jovial" when in fact since this game got outta the honeymoon phase you have been anything but. 2. Town read of ticktock doesn't have a good basis 3. List of useless townreads halfway into day 1 that doesn't engage anyone or actually advance the thread but still looks useful 1) I did not claim otherwise. 2) That's your opinion. I disagree. 3) Again you're picking one post and ignoring my engagement with conversion.
?????
Why do I care about your engagement with conversion when he did something extremely stupid? And your conclusion is that hes town.
Where are the scum reads?
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Also what do you mean "you did not claim other wise"
You said "as town im light-hearted and jovial" and you aren't so therefore you aren't town by your own logic.
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Yea I wanna hear who ruxx thinks is scum. And other people if possible
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On November 02 2017 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 04:34 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 04:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2017 04:25 ruXxar wrote:
If I had no prior experience with shockey I would most likely also call him scum. Not relevant. 1. You claim to be "light-hearted and jovial" when in fact since this game got outta the honeymoon phase you have been anything but. 2. Town read of ticktock doesn't have a good basis 3. List of useless townreads halfway into day 1 that doesn't engage anyone or actually advance the thread but still looks useful 1) I did not claim otherwise. 2) That's your opinion. I disagree. 3) Again you're picking one post and ignoring my engagement with conversion. ????? Why do I care about your engagement with conversion when he did something extremely stupid? And your conclusion is that hes town. Where are the scum reads?
Because you love taking thing out of context and blowing it up.
You're clamoring for a leg to stand on to call me mafia, and ignoring everything else I've done.
Thats bad scum hunting by every standard.
The post you chose to point out is not even mafia indicative as many people have posted lists.
Besides, your accusation is flat out wrong, I have engaged with multiple people.
I would take you more seriously if you had some credible arguments, but right now you're just grasping at straws.
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On November 02 2017 04:49 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2017 04:34 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 04:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2017 04:25 ruXxar wrote:
If I had no prior experience with shockey I would most likely also call him scum. Not relevant. 1. You claim to be "light-hearted and jovial" when in fact since this game got outta the honeymoon phase you have been anything but. 2. Town read of ticktock doesn't have a good basis 3. List of useless townreads halfway into day 1 that doesn't engage anyone or actually advance the thread but still looks useful 1) I did not claim otherwise. 2) That's your opinion. I disagree. 3) Again you're picking one post and ignoring my engagement with conversion. ????? Why do I care about your engagement with conversion when he did something extremely stupid? And your conclusion is that hes town. Where are the scum reads? Because you love taking thing out of context and blowing it up. You're clamoring for a leg to stand on to call me mafia, and ignoring everything else I've done. Thats bad scum hunting by every standard. The post you chose to point out is not even mafia indicative as many people have posted lists. Besides, your accusation is flat out wrong, I have engaged with multiple people. I would take you more seriously if you had some credible arguments, but right now you're just grasping at straws.
I said your list was useless because it only contained townreads in the middle of day 1 lol. Who else posted a list containing only townreads this game?
And I said that list didn't engage anyone. Not that you didn't engage anyone at all this game.
I don't need you to take me seriously lol. You better hope the rest of the thread agrees with you or else.
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If im taking things out of context, prove me wrong then, show how im wrong if you put context.
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Why is his read on Shock good if you don't agree with it? 
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On November 02 2017 05:23 Holyflare wrote:Why is his read on Shock good if you don't agree with it?
Get back on the street ya hobo
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Also that ninjavote on Darth Foley is interesting rux, care to share?
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Hi, sorry about being late. So I'm gonna start off by posting some of my scum-reads so far.
Scum
darthfoley: Darth seems to me the most scummy right now. In start of game he basically calls out Ruxxar's post as being bad and scummy without adding anything about it, not even why he thinks it's bad.
On November 01 2017 09:04 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy[/b
I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.
@Damdred especially you. Slow down hotshot. When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes? Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team? You have good reads, I'll give you that. You just gotta work on being more convincing. No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier. And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time. In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point. Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments. Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility. Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around. Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced. Worst post so far. Good chance of being scum
He goes on to push Ruxxar again without giving any reasons, then finally posts the view after he has called him mafia already twice. His reasons for it is that it is basically that he posts fluff, when it had only been a few hours of play. He's also a hypocrite, when he calls out Conversion for his early vote but then not long after says that early voting is fine. Basically his stances change based on what benefits him the most.
On November 01 2017 13:05 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 12:56 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:53 Damerion wrote:
Shockey has the worst entrance tone wise, he complains on what reads llike a thread that is having fun in the early going (to me reads like totally town uo to that point).
He then makes another post about hoping he has more posts to work with when he geta back without adding to the game himself.
I am above 50% that he is scum at this point. I am 100% you are scum ##vote dam
oh hey look, it's the guy that did the same shit last game when he was scum
His posts generally seem to have about zero actual thoughts and analysis. This post dosen't help town at all, basically just attacking someone for being scum last game.
On November 01 2017 13:11 darthfoley wrote:
Still waiting for you to contribute anything meaningful to the game. Two vote posts and bickering is weak sauce from uber pro scum hunter Oatsmaster
This post seemed really scummy to me. Saying he will "wait for Oats to contribute" is a very suspicious thing to say. Basically making himself seem like he has contributed while putting down anything Oats has done.
On November 01 2017 13:24 darthfoley wrote:
This is a waste of my time and we're just going back and forth on semantics. Go be productive and find scum. Report back to HQ when you're onto something!
This one also seemed really scummy to me. Basically making it look like he is the "leader" and that others should go read the thread and scumhunt while he himself does nothing.
On November 02 2017 03:20 darthfoley wrote:
Krogan is town
Or he posts stuff like this, saying people are town withouth any kind of reasoning behind it at all.
On November 02 2017 03:21 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Oats is also too sporadic in the voting thread, jumping onto who ever seems the "easiest" to vote off. Him and Damerian posting are so similar it's disgusting. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them flipped red.
Idk if a mafia posts this. I don't think so
He goes on to defend Shock and saying he dosent think he is mafia (without giving reasons)
Basically his posts are trying to seem like he is contributing while in reality he has posted next to nothing of substance. He tells others to post more and contribute, but adds almost nothing himself. When he makes reads he simply says "he is mafia", or "he is town". He is top on my scum list and im gonna vote on him.
ShoCkeyy: Shockey to me is also scum-lean. He had some really scummy early posts.
On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet.
I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum
This one was particularly scummy to me. He basically says that people being suspicious of him have a good chance of being scum. Thereby discouraging people of going after him for fear of they themselves being labelled scum. Very strange thing to say, and very scummy.
[B]On November 01 2017 12:00 ShoCkeyy wrote: Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:43 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet. I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum So what are your thoughts on me getting triggered? I especially liked DF's posts on Ruxx and his response to being questioned. What's your thoughts on that? Meh... too me it's fluff. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy[/b
I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.
@Damdred especially you. Slow down hotshot. When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes? Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team? You have good reads, I'll give you that. You just gotta work on being more convincing. No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier. And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time. In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point. Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments. Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility. Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around. Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced. I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about. Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary Let me break down the bolded sentence for you 1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game 2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential 3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off? 4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy. So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger I can kinda understand ruxxar questioning Damerion's reason to vote so early, and it's not that he's dictating, he's just saying to take it slow. I think this post clearly explains Ruxxar's thinking. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 09:20 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 09:08 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 09:05 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:59 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:53 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy[/b
I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.
@Damdred especially you. Slow down hotshot. When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes? Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team? You have good reads, I'll give you that. You just gotta work on being more convincing. No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier. And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time. In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point. nah actually I'm willing to blind follow you 100% after the last 2 games you're not as good this game though so that's weird.also I never trust HF because he is a "big name" so that's a bad point What’s that supposed to mean??? oi don't red text me m8 he just seems weird throwing out all these soft reads. his usual play has been slam down hard with a big read that calls out 2/3 or 3/3 scum, but idk. maybe he's trying to be more active b/c he died last game because of it, but I don't like it You’re saying he’s not as good when no one has flipped yet. It doesn’t make sense in the context you’re trying to appropriate to him. You’re trying to measure his “good play” based on his posts rather than the result of his reads. If his previous games reads had all been wrong, then you wouldn’t be calling his big read posts good. Like.. I don’t see where you’re coming from. it's what HF said before, why change up your playstyle when nothing was wrong with it to begin with? the only reason I can think of is he wants to avoid being lynched b/c of activity again, so he tries to throw out soft reads by looking active. I don't like that if his big read posts in the previous games were off, then I can see why he's trying to change his playstyle I don't think I'm being unclear, and have no idea why you're nitpicking at the point, so make that two of us that don't understand each other
Also, how is his read soft?
He straight up called shockey mafia, voted for him and asked people to follow him. I know I post like shit, but I do it for a reason, it's easy to be able to see who jumps on the "vote shockeyy" bandwagon, and of course one of the mafia members is easily going to jump on it, if not two cause my posting is so "shitty". Damerian is trying to use his credibility from his past two games to try and have a following into voting some one off easily. It's kinda scummy in my opinion.
He then continues with this, saying he is writing "like shit" on purpose to find scum. Basically saying that other people should ignore his bad posting, and then repeating what he said before, that going after him means you are scum.
[B]On November 01 2017 09:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Look at that, I got two almost three pages worth of info out of my one little measly post.
Still haven't seen these people post either:
4. The_Zen_Man
5. Oatsmaster
10. Breshke
12. Vivax
13. Tictock
So we'd still have to wait till they show up.
There is also this post. He takes credit for starting two pages of posts, but where he did not himself post anything. He only had one post that was referenced in those two pages. But why should he get credit for that when it was other people posting? He also says we should wait until AFK people show up, but not wanting to contribute himself.
Darth also soft defended him so maybe there is a possible scum team here? Regardless, he is also very scummy.
[b] ##Vote darthfoley
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On November 02 2017 04:48 darthfoley wrote:
Yea I wanna hear who ruxx thinks is scum. And other people if possible
Sure. Right now you are my top scum read.
1) You're being wishy washy trying to coast by. Casting shade and town reads around you pretty lightly.
You're keeping every option open, snaking your way around from read to read.
2) This post is incredibly nitpicky and trying to infuse meaning where there is none. One of the worst posts in the game.
It's very over explainy and trying to siphon meaning out of very word instead of trying to understand the overall message of the post.
On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:
I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.
Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary
Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.
So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger
Besides you there's a few people on my to watch list:
Oats - for the same reason of also blowing things up and putting emphasis on worthless fact as if they were gold and had some divine scum meaning.
Damerion - I detected a change in meta behavior, need more posts to evaluate.
Shockey - I know I'm biased due to meta. The threshold for where that meta no longer holds is very thin. But still resides as town. Also the bickering with conversion tips in his favor.
HF - His damerion vote with no explanation was a red flag, but his later followup was ok. He's awfully quiet this game, but he has an excuse. Otherwise keeping an eye on him as his meta is different from last game. A bit more laid back.
Not sure how to interpret it, will need to wait until he makes a real push.
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On November 02 2017 05:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also that ninjavote on Darth Foley is interesting rux, care to share?
It's not a ninja vote. I think DF is the most scummy person right now.
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