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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:23 GMT
#361
On November 01 2017 22:55 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problem I have with DF is attacking anyone possible is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


Because pushing you hard if he knows you are town are not going to reflect well on him.


I wouldn't have to push him hard if I were mafia. Enough people are already doing that. Idc how stuff reflects on me lol
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2017 18:25 GMT
#362
What are you scum reads Darth?
No gg, No skill.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:28 GMT
#363
On November 02 2017 01:49 Conversion wrote:
Are you so daft that you don't understand the differences between "ShoCkeyy is the thread sentiments" versus "ShoCkeyy is the only thread sentiment"

?


This is really bad semantics. You're splitting hairs for no reason
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:30 GMT
#364
On November 02 2017 01:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 01:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 21:32 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 20:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 14:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I mean at least he posted. He could of easily not post and you would of still called it lame. Usually negative connotations like that give off a scummy vibe as well so we can do less of.

what are you saying here?
That darth is calling me scum and we could do less of that?
or that darth calling me scum is scummy and we could do less of that?


Did you read what I even posted? Wtf are you going on about? I wasn't even talking to you....


are you saying df is not scum for posting?? I’m confused as well


I don't think I should have to explain myself, but definitely not... DF was calling Ruxxar's post lame, and I just said its better that he posted rather than not. I mean I don't think it's that hard to understand what I meant if people actually read before replying.

So far DF, Damerian and Oats are on my watch list. Conversion is halfway there.

I mean, df was talking directely to me and calling my post about his post about rux lame so maybe you should read before replying.



That's not what it seems like; I think you need to learn how to read

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 13:07 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments.

Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility.
Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around.

Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced.


I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.

Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary

Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.

So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger

You are a whole lotta nothing burger.
What are you eving doing with this post.


[b]Explaining why ruxxar's post is lame as hell and non-committal to the utmost. It's rather obvious what I was doing. Take your attitude elsewhere


He obviously thinks Ruxxar's post was lame.


Shockey proves that he is the one that has reading comprehension
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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 18:33 GMT
#365
On November 02 2017 03:28 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 01:49 Conversion wrote:
Are you so daft that you don't understand the differences between "ShoCkeyy is the thread sentiments" versus "ShoCkeyy is the only thread sentiment"

?


This is really bad semantics. You're splitting hairs for no reason


I've been splitting hairs because his entire argument is that I somehow am trying to get him lynched by deflecting the fact that I screwed up as mafia and trying to say that I am making a play based on that, then chooses to ignore every single post I made afterwards that basically paint the picture that I am an easily pushable lynch

??

Not only that, he tries to paint me as scum because I'm somehow wagoning as Damerion, but he won't explain why he thought Damerion was voting him when he wasn't, and won't answer why I would make such a ridiculously bad play of trying to bus myself from Damerion by calling his play bad if I was scum with him
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:33 GMT
#366
On November 02 2017 03:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok rux is likely mafia, tick tock possible mafia, damdred in the same spot as tick tock.

Shockey vs conversion is tvt


thank fucking god someone else understands this
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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 18:33 GMT
#367
wagoning with Damerion* I should really proofread before I post
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:38 GMT
#368
On November 02 2017 03:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
What are you scum reads Darth?


Basically retweet what you just said.

I think Conversion is town. His play is so diametrically opposed to last game. Shockey is also town for some posts that I just don't think a mafia makes-- especially a rusty mafia who hasn't played in a long time(?). I kind of have to town lean you for having a mindmeld with me. Last night I was really tired trying to lesson plan and play mafia and it wasn't a good idea. Krogan is also just obviously town

Still think ruxx is likely mafia, and I also don't like Ticktock so far, for different reasons (not the HF post).
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:39 GMT
#369
On November 02 2017 03:19 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 07:50 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:47 Damdred wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:45 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:42 Damdred wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:40 darthfoley wrote:
On more serious terms, let's hope that we don't have AFKers this game.

Krogan's combo brrreak thing felt the most forced of any entrance. Except maybe HF


You know I was abour to tr you for your carefree attitude a d then you say something i really disagree with.

I think krogan had third best entrance, hf is meh but meh


That's fine. You can give me the town read anyways


can you explain why yoi dont loke it more for me?


Idk. Scum often have trouble entering. Especially new scum. It makes sense for scum!Krogan to try and be funny by copying someone rather than having his own entrance.

Also don't like shockey's entrance


Also super scummy post, soft bus teammate for bad entrance but only explain why the townie (krogan) is scummy.

Darth and shockey down already, damn guys and I thought this was going to be challenging.


This was an hour into the game and I threw my first read out. I don't think Krogan is mafia and I haven't since about page 14-15
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 01 2017 18:40 GMT
#370
On November 02 2017 03:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 01:06 Tictock wrote:
Ok got through page 15.

I think I'm warming up to Conv a little more, he seems to be sticking to his guns despite the pressure. I'll give him the Town lean back.

I'm a tad disappointed to have nothing new from the Damer bros. They seem like the caliber of player that I prefer to take a wait and see approach with though.

Mixed bag about Oats. I felt like so had a way to read him a long time ago but his strong scum game last game makes me want to hold off. He is so all over the place right now that I'm kinda just scratching my head.

HF having RL issues explains him being a bit lacking but don't give him a full pass, he can be a slippery scum player.

This HF read is really bad.
Tick tock thinks HF is scummy, but doesn't want to commit to his read based on out of game stuff which is not relevant to HFs alignment.
But still keeps him open as a lynch option


This post is bad and you should feel bad.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:40 GMT
#371
But noted that Vivax's first scum reads are thread sentiment
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:41 GMT
#372
Actually Vivax's entrance is terrible
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:42 GMT
#373
Throw Vivax into my scum pile for me
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2017 18:44 GMT
#374
On November 02 2017 03:40 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 03:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 02 2017 01:06 Tictock wrote:
Ok got through page 15.

I think I'm warming up to Conv a little more, he seems to be sticking to his guns despite the pressure. I'll give him the Town lean back.

I'm a tad disappointed to have nothing new from the Damer bros. They seem like the caliber of player that I prefer to take a wait and see approach with though.

Mixed bag about Oats. I felt like so had a way to read him a long time ago but his strong scum game last game makes me want to hold off. He is so all over the place right now that I'm kinda just scratching my head.

HF having RL issues explains him being a bit lacking but don't give him a full pass, he can be a slippery scum player.

This HF read is really bad.
Tick tock thinks HF is scummy, but doesn't want to commit to his read based on out of game stuff which is not relevant to HFs alignment.
But still keeps him open as a lynch option


This post is bad and you should feel bad.

Alright dude, totally gonna feel bad because you told me to
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2017 18:45 GMT
#375
Hopefully vivax didn't disappear cause that would be annoying
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 01 2017 18:46 GMT
#376
On November 02 2017 03:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 03:40 ruXxar wrote:
On November 02 2017 03:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 02 2017 01:06 Tictock wrote:
Ok got through page 15.

I think I'm warming up to Conv a little more, he seems to be sticking to his guns despite the pressure. I'll give him the Town lean back.

I'm a tad disappointed to have nothing new from the Damer bros. They seem like the caliber of player that I prefer to take a wait and see approach with though.

Mixed bag about Oats. I felt like so had a way to read him a long time ago but his strong scum game last game makes me want to hold off. He is so all over the place right now that I'm kinda just scratching my head.

HF having RL issues explains him being a bit lacking but don't give him a full pass, he can be a slippery scum player.

This HF read is really bad.
Tick tock thinks HF is scummy, but doesn't want to commit to his read based on out of game stuff which is not relevant to HFs alignment.
But still keeps him open as a lynch option


This post is bad and you should feel bad.

Alright dude, totally gonna feel bad because you told me to


You nitpick on one little tiny itsy bitsy sentence of all the posts the guy makes and you blow it up like front page news and calls him mafia.

Great detective work there.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:49 GMT
#377
On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.

I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.

Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.

and conversion is coming off that way to me.

But I got way off track with that post meh


I agree about DF.

About conversion... the jury is still out.
He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing.


Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different.
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 01 2017 18:53 GMT
#378
On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.

I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.

Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.

and conversion is coming off that way to me.

But I got way off track with that post meh


I agree about DF.

About conversion... the jury is still out.
He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing.


Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different.


Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing.
Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:53 GMT
#379
It's really interesting how quickly this faux wagon built up on me. Gotta reread those pages and see who's legit and who's not. Pretty confident that Krogan is just uber town though
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 18:54 GMT
#380
On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.

I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.

Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.

and conversion is coming off that way to me.

But I got way off track with that post meh


I agree about DF.

About conversion... the jury is still out.
He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing.


Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different.


Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing.
Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia.


The jury is still out but you don't think the guy is mafia? So the jury is in?

lolwat
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