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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 01 2017 21:33 GMT
#441
Is zen guy new? Way too much of a wall of text for a new mafia to make.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 21:34 GMT
#442
On November 02 2017 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Is zen guy new? Way too much of a wall of text for a new mafia to make.


That's actually exactly what I would expect a new mafia to do
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 01 2017 21:35 GMT
#443
On November 02 2017 06:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you disagree with the assessment that your post is swinging back and forth between calling damerion townie and scummy? Cause it looks like you totally meant that and that darth analysed it correctly.

1) damerion's posting is scummy
2) damerion's posting is townie
3) it might be either I DUNNO?!?!

That's literally what darth said. And you clearly agree with it. So how does that make darth overanalysing every little thing??


Because it was obvious he was looking for reasons to call me scum, and not trying to objectively evaluate why I said what I did. He was looking for plausible cause to push his scum read.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 01 2017 21:36 GMT
#444
On November 02 2017 06:34 darthfoley wrote:
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On November 02 2017 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Is zen guy new? Way too much of a wall of text for a new mafia to make.


That's actually exactly what I would expect a new mafia to do


Well you have bad expectations then?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2017 21:39 GMT
#445
On November 02 2017 06:35 ruXxar wrote:
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On November 02 2017 06:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you disagree with the assessment that your post is swinging back and forth between calling damerion townie and scummy? Cause it looks like you totally meant that and that darth analysed it correctly.

1) damerion's posting is scummy
2) damerion's posting is townie
3) it might be either I DUNNO?!?!

That's literally what darth said. And you clearly agree with it. So how does that make darth overanalysing every little thing??


Because it was obvious he was looking for reasons to call me scum, and not trying to objectively evaluate why I said what I did. He was looking for plausible cause to push his scum read.

No, no, tell me how darth's analysis is wrong because it seems like he got it on the nose.

Am I scum too? Cause I agree with what he said.
No gg, No skill.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 21:39 GMT
#446
On November 02 2017 06:36 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 02 2017 06:34 darthfoley wrote:
On November 02 2017 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Is zen guy new? Way too much of a wall of text for a new mafia to make.


That's actually exactly what I would expect a new mafia to do


Well you have bad expectations then?


That's like your opinion man. What do you make of vivax and ruxxar?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2017 21:39 GMT
#447
On November 02 2017 06:36 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 02 2017 06:34 darthfoley wrote:
On November 02 2017 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Is zen guy new? Way too much of a wall of text for a new mafia to make.


That's actually exactly what I would expect a new mafia to do


Well you have bad expectations then?

More liek good expectations amirite
No gg, No skill.
The_Zen_Man
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden202 Posts
November 01 2017 21:40 GMT
#448
On November 02 2017 06:12 darthfoley wrote:
I just have a hard time seeing town!Vivax AFK'ing for almost 24h, then coming in with the same two scum reads as like 3-4 other people. You aren't interacting with anyone, questioning your scum reads, or anything.

On the other hand, Zen master has basically found a reason to scum read me for every post I made to fit the narrative that i'm scum. The fact that he carefully crafted one long ass post to give 25 reasons why i'm scum is actually more questionable than Vivax casually throwing out some reads.


Yeah, the fact that I actually put effort into my post means im scum. But just throwing accusations without any thought behind them and jumping from wagon to wagon like you did is very town-like.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 21:41 GMT
#449
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I think town ruxxar would have let go of this fight with me and Oats by now, and told us all to focus elsewhere and come back to this later. The fact that he's been defending himself without really looking elsewhere for 10-12 pages makes me more suspicious of him than I already was.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 21:42 GMT
#450
On November 02 2017 06:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:
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On November 02 2017 06:12 darthfoley wrote:
I just have a hard time seeing town!Vivax AFK'ing for almost 24h, then coming in with the same two scum reads as like 3-4 other people. You aren't interacting with anyone, questioning your scum reads, or anything.

On the other hand, Zen master has basically found a reason to scum read me for every post I made to fit the narrative that i'm scum. The fact that he carefully crafted one long ass post to give 25 reasons why i'm scum is actually more questionable than Vivax casually throwing out some reads.


Yeah, the fact that I actually put effort into my post means im scum. But just throwing accusations without any thought behind them and jumping from wagon to wagon like you did is very town-like.


The game has to start somehow. I have thought behind them, but that doesn't mean I always have to share my thought process.

I'm more interested to hear what you think about other people in the game, and why.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2017 21:43 GMT
#451
On November 02 2017 06:41 darthfoley wrote:
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I think town ruxxar would have let go of this fight with me and Oats by now, and told us all to focus elsewhere and come back to this later. The fact that he's been defending himself without really looking elsewhere for 10-12 pages makes me more suspicious of him than I already was.

You are a strange strange man
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 01 2017 21:45 GMT
#452
On November 02 2017 06:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On November 02 2017 06:35 ruXxar wrote:
On November 02 2017 06:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you disagree with the assessment that your post is swinging back and forth between calling damerion townie and scummy? Cause it looks like you totally meant that and that darth analysed it correctly.

1) damerion's posting is scummy
2) damerion's posting is townie
3) it might be either I DUNNO?!?!

That's literally what darth said. And you clearly agree with it. So how does that make darth overanalysing every little thing??


Because it was obvious he was looking for reasons to call me scum, and not trying to objectively evaluate why I said what I did. He was looking for plausible cause to push his scum read.

No, no, tell me how darth's analysis is wrong because it seems like he got it on the nose.

Am I scum too? Cause I agree with what he said.

Oh really?

On November 01 2017 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments.

Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility.
Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around.

[b]Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced.


I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.

Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary

Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.

So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger

You are a whole lotta nothing burger.
What are you eving doing with this post.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2017 21:48 GMT
#453
On November 02 2017 06:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 06:35 ruXxar wrote:
On November 02 2017 06:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you disagree with the assessment that your post is swinging back and forth between calling damerion townie and scummy? Cause it looks like you totally meant that and that darth analysed it correctly.

1) damerion's posting is scummy
2) damerion's posting is townie
3) it might be either I DUNNO?!?!

That's literally what darth said. And you clearly agree with it. So how does that make darth overanalysing every little thing??


Because it was obvious he was looking for reasons to call me scum, and not trying to objectively evaluate why I said what I did. He was looking for plausible cause to push his scum read.

No, no, tell me how darth's analysis is wrong because it seems like he got it on the nose.

Am I scum too? Cause I agree with what he said.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2017 21:48 GMT
#454
Ooo I changed my mind, the horror?!?
No gg, No skill.
The_Zen_Man
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden202 Posts
November 01 2017 21:49 GMT
#455
On November 02 2017 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Is zen guy new? Way too much of a wall of text for a new mafia to make.


Nah, I'm not new. I haven't played for a while but I still wouldn't call myself new to mafia.
The_Zen_Man
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden202 Posts
November 01 2017 21:51 GMT
#456
On November 02 2017 06:42 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 06:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 02 2017 06:12 darthfoley wrote:
I just have a hard time seeing town!Vivax AFK'ing for almost 24h, then coming in with the same two scum reads as like 3-4 other people. You aren't interacting with anyone, questioning your scum reads, or anything.

On the other hand, Zen master has basically found a reason to scum read me for every post I made to fit the narrative that i'm scum. The fact that he carefully crafted one long ass post to give 25 reasons why i'm scum is actually more questionable than Vivax casually throwing out some reads.


Yeah, the fact that I actually put effort into my post means im scum. But just throwing accusations without any thought behind them and jumping from wagon to wagon like you did is very town-like.


The game has to start somehow. I have thought behind them, but that doesn't mean I always have to share my thought process.

I'm more interested to hear what you think about other people in the game, and why.


What? So you have thoughts but decide to not share them with other people? How are we supposed to make reads on you if you if you don't post your though process and wait for everyone else to post? This was a very scummy post.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 01 2017 21:58 GMT
#457
On November 02 2017 06:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 06:42 darthfoley wrote:
On November 02 2017 06:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 02 2017 06:12 darthfoley wrote:
I just have a hard time seeing town!Vivax AFK'ing for almost 24h, then coming in with the same two scum reads as like 3-4 other people. You aren't interacting with anyone, questioning your scum reads, or anything.

On the other hand, Zen master has basically found a reason to scum read me for every post I made to fit the narrative that i'm scum. The fact that he carefully crafted one long ass post to give 25 reasons why i'm scum is actually more questionable than Vivax casually throwing out some reads.


Yeah, the fact that I actually put effort into my post means im scum. But just throwing accusations without any thought behind them and jumping from wagon to wagon like you did is very town-like.


The game has to start somehow. I have thought behind them, but that doesn't mean I always have to share my thought process.

I'm more interested to hear what you think about other people in the game, and why.


What? So you have thoughts but decide to not share them with other people? How are we supposed to make reads on you if you if you don't post your though process and wait for everyone else to post? This was a very scummy post.


No it wasn't. I will share my thought processes when i'm good and ready. Like I have done. I'm not waiting for other people to post. I've probably been in the top 3 for activity this game. That's also ironic considering you came in and copied reads 24h into the game.

If you have specific questions about my reads on people, feel free to ask. Otherwise, I don't feel the need to clarify things.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 22:03 GMT
#458
someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2017 22:07 GMT
#459
On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote:
someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum

I don't see any leaps in logic from him, point it out. Also, you might be slightly biased
No gg, No skill.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 22:08 GMT
#460
On November 02 2017 07:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote:
someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum

I don't see any leaps in logic from him, point it out. Also, you might be slightly biased


I can pull out quotes if you want, but he literally bases half of his scum read on me because I tried to form a wagon on him with Damerion. He refuses to answer me on why I would be scum with Damerion and make such a shitty play early in telling Damerion his play is bad or feels weird. Also Damerion actually never voted on him, so I wasn't "forming a wagon" on him

a lot of the crap before it was just semantics that he and I couldn't see eye to eye on, but he constantly dodges that question when he has no reason to as town
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