Newbie Student Mafia XXVII

On October 13 2017 06:59 Oatsmaster wrote:

dude what the heck, you townread him for the post then you now just waffled back to calling him mafia not just yet???
#vote rux

On October 13 2017 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:

whats the point of this post?

On October 13 2017 07:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdred trying to pocket damerion, ruxxar ignoring oats calling him a liar. Relevant? We shall see.

On October 13 2017 12:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why doesnt anyone else want to lynch rux.

Hes been doing nothing but fluff and totally ignores my legitimate argument.

On October 13 2017 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:

??????????????
he literally says
none of that is referring to other peoples read on him.

Why does his fluff make you vote him over the multitudes of other people posting nothing but fluff?

On October 14 2017 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote:

Have you seen any of ruxxs mafia games?

On October 14 2017 08:01 Oatsmaster wrote:

so why do you use a meta read to townread someone when you have no idea how they would play as mafia???
TMI??!?

On October 14 2017 08:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
He didnt say "mafia wont do that", he specifically said "rux will only do that as town"

On October 14 2017 08:00 Oatsmaster wrote:

useless
why are so many people posting list posts??

On October 14 2017 08:05 Conversion wrote:


Grack wasn’t metareading ruxxar as town there, he was jut statig ruxxar was the only one silly enough to vouch drawing suspicion as a good town play. Not really seeing where you saw him draw a metaread conclusion

On October 14 2017 08:45 Oatsmaster wrote:

it would help if you actually called somebody mafia

On October 14 2017 09:15 Oatsmaster wrote:

but if hes mafia he doesnt think its protown and therefore you think hes town because you believe that he thinks he is doing something protown

On October 14 2017 11:06 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation?

On October 15 2017 02:52 Damdred wrote:


I dont understand what he sis between your vote and you going i like his new posts when he hadnt posted anything oo

On October 15 2017 03:57 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar still thinks I'm mafia eh?

On October 15 2017 04:09 Oatsmaster wrote:

What do you expect to happen between now and deadline that you dont want to commit???

On October 15 2017 00:42 Holyflare wrote:
I actually think damerion is really really mafia. All you have to do is look at how explanatory his posts are in this game and compare them to hurricane shelter. In hurricane the only thing he talks about are scum reads and they have concrete reasons to be scum leans etc. This game he appears to be constantly on the back foot, all his reads are flimsy town reads.

Looking at his big initial post a lot of them aren't actually town reads either. There's a bunch of flimsy stuff like ruxxar(?) posting good but not alignment indicative stuff??? Which makes the whole paragraph a waste of time and contradictory since good stuff is normally a townie trait and if it's not then why post about it.

He also seems robotic to me.

On October 15 2017 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
After re-evaluating Xenonn (actually reading his filter) I've come to the conclusion that Damdred, the god of tone reads, is actually mafia jumping on an incredibly easy bandwagon.

On October 15 2017 02:12 Holyflare wrote:


^^^^^^

This is all before he has completely switched up his playstyle to now be a mafia read that's not a mafia read, it's just "Interesting" and totally wasn't interesting in the slightest.

Then he just dropped off the face of the planet without talking to anyone.

On October 15 2017 04:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

So if you didnt like his posts and he continued to post things that you disliked, why dont you think he is mafia?

On October 15 2017 04:54 Onegu wrote:
On openings. There are 2 I didnt like.

Ruxxar and Damerion. Ruxxar seemed way to happy. Like way to happy, seemed off to me.

And Damerion was like lets not talk about roles but here is what you should do. Also to wordy. Seemed like he wrote it proof read it thought about it and posted it. Not really a way town thinks./ plays.

Like damdred feeling off about ruxxar says people who make him laugh but the fact he said something first I like.

Boom Oats comes in and slams Rux. I like oats.

HF says the same about Damer I like HF

Damdreds hard defend of Damer I find odd. Like he agrees he is playing different from the previous game but not enough different feels really off now with this defense.

Boom MrLonelyClock hits on Damerion. I like this newbie. He is somewhere inbetween the blue and yellow also!

Ugg but then he just is ok on Damer after one small post. TT why you do this. You null now.

Then votes with oats on Ruxx. Which I do like at this point.

I also like happykrogen at the moment. his response to damer is nice.

Yeah I like HF at the moment. Normally I just ignore him at this point. but meh.

Conversion giveing a town read and then like not saying why and its the same post other people said about Clock and the defense of Damer in the same post. dont like dont like...

Ruxxar like conversion. Makes me like conversion even less...

Ruxxar shits on me. Like Ruxxar even less.

Krogan voteing Rux. I like I like.

My god I like Rux less and less as I read. Like coaching the newbies to look helpful. Bleh I just dont like him at all.

Krogran picks up on it. My HERO!!!

Ruxxar going to try to lynch me I can feel it.

FF giveing Ruxxar a out is meh really.

I really feel weird about people 13 pages in only having town reads. Like not even scum leans its null or town thats it.

Ruxxar with the coaching again. Like I guess its a defense of him self but the way he does it in like a coaching way. Activity is town blah blah blah just rubs me the wrong way.

Grack is forgettable... bleh

HF is back to ignore... The whole krogan/ruxxar thing and HF response to it is making my response ignore HF.

DF I am ok with for now. His post about agreeing with HF on Krogan is bleh. I mean who isnt town reading Krogan right now? And that is a reason to give HF a pass? And I dont really like his Ruxxar town read. But his post isnt bringing any more red flags other than those.

But then the next post is within HF scum range... Lol ok... Still ok with DF.

Oats TMI post is meh. Still like his pushes though....

The whole thing on pocketing people is stupid and I am dumber for reading it.

HUH xenon thinks rux is town so he votes Oats? That cant be a scum play right> Like it just cant. I mean right? Huh?

Oats points out my thought on xenonn but I think 60% lynch bait 40% scum because really?


So I am running out of time so I am going to post this. I am still reading but I am also about to Top 8 a large MTGO tourny. Sooooo.

On October 15 2017 06:18 xenonn40 wrote:


Damerion's vote at the end seems very suspicious to me. He votes for Oats over a vote for Conversion to make himself safe from the lynch. He is last minute scrambling to target someone else. Seems like a desperate attempt to save a fellow mafia.

I am not sure if Godfather shows up as town when lynched, if so, perhaps Damerion is Godfather.

On October 15 2017 04:40 Conversion wrote:


we're at 3:3 right now and I have to leave soon

I'm about to just tiebreak on Damerion and go because I don't want to die to someone who makes 5 posts and AFKs

also where is onegu's post?

On October 15 2017 05:00 Conversion wrote:
well that wasn’t useful. I’m heading out now, I don’t want to die, and no one gave me any reason why damerion is not the lynch today. clockman couldn’t even retort as to why he doesn’t have to same conclusion for damerion besides feelings and because I post more

On October 15 2017 06:10 Conversion wrote:
gg all

On October 16 2017 02:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey onegu, can you explain why the heck you wasted your vote on rux when your other scumread damerion actually had a chance of being lynched?

On October 16 2017 07:39 Damdred wrote:


But didnt you say the whole point was grack and not oats?

On October 16 2017 08:10 MrLonelyClock wrote:

Basically it was 3 votes Conv, 3 votes Damerion, 2 oats, and some 1's at that point.

Actually, IF conv and damerion are scum together then it would have been established that the scum decided Damerion is a better kill than conv. This would possible explain conv voting for damerion and damerion not voting conv. As such I would assume the other scum would also vote for Damerion to "secure" towniness or if they gave him a town read then at least vote on somebody other than conv.

I think this is the only world that both damerion and conv can be scum together and I don't believe thats the case. Seems too far-fetched imo.

On October 16 2017 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
MrLonelyClock, where do your reads stand at the moment? I have no idea what you think based on your filter

Krogans post might look forced, but it's not indicative of mafia just yet.

On October 13 2017 06:43 ruXxar wrote:

You got 2 out of 3 right. Not bad!
Krogans post might look forced, but it's not indicative of mafia just yet.

On October 13 2017 09:10 Damdred wrote:

But seriously pocmeting people is super impkrtant in the long run for survival

On October 14 2017 03:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok, so I feel a little guilty at this point in time and I will try to be tge old Damdred this game.

Fact check away on my reads this train aint got no breaks and i aint got time to quote on phone.

Town Reads:

Damerion, he has this thing he does as town where he will have this skrt of mission statement about how he will approach the game. He has checked that, he gives clear concise reada with hard reasoning behind it, done. He also seems to try to draw people into conversation instead of existing.

Rux rux baby: Off the cuff read, the eay he responds to the pressure is town. Does t care, tries to be helpful and then establishes where he wants to be in the game. I think hes just going to be town for the tone and the lressure, but his reads were not bad.

If anyone tries to lynch rux at least today I will let slip the dogs of war and create chaos.

FF: Hey buddy we should work together, care free attitude. Gives some opinions still a bit weak on a few points, overall would not kynch today.

Gracky: Posts his thoughts, goes against thread sentiment a post or two ago. Seems to be looking where others dont, no lynch today.

Oats: Seemed to be reading the game a d his lressure wasnt horrid. It is defi ately not top town worthy but enough for a pass.

Xenon and nylonelylock are both town i feel for how they approached the game as newbs. Meh they were soitting fire earlier

Everyone else is in this null range besides hf who I love dearly but am ignoring until he wants cuddles.

If anyone tries to lynch rux at least today I will let slip the dogs of war and create chaos.

On October 16 2017 08:40 Damdred wrote:
I sort of want a wagon on me to build so i can shatter it.

On October 15 2017 04:21 Oatsmaster wrote:

loooooooool

On October 15 2017 04:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

So if you didnt like his posts and he continued to post things that you disliked, why dont you think he is mafia?

On October 15 2017 04:25 Oatsmaster wrote:

so you meant dont like as in dont prefer rather than the more commonly used dont like as in hes mafia.

sure dude.

On October 17 2017 03:47 Oatsmaster wrote:

Youve ever heard of a bus?
You aren't scumhunting， you aren't town hunting, you aren't doing anything but coming in here and posting some inane rubbish

On October 16 2017 15:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Fecalfeast, on a scale of 1-10, how interested are you in playing this game?
Cause it looks like a 0. Same with onegu

On October 17 2017 03:47 Oatsmaster wrote:

Youve ever heard of a bus?
You aren't scumhunting， you aren't town hunting, you aren't doing anything but coming in here and posting some inane rubbish

On October 17 2017 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why aren't people lynching damdred?

On October 17 2017 06:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Where did everyone go. What the heck man

On October 17 2017 07:25 Oatsmaster wrote:

Let's talk about damdred. Why do you think he is town other than voting for scum?

On October 17 2017 05:49 Oatsmaster wrote:

I think that it's pointless to assume that mafia know how to play or don't know how to play.

Literally so many games where mafia have done stupid shit that totally screwed town over when we assumed that they knew how to play. Same the other way around.

On October 17 2017 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:

So are you confident or not confident in your reads? Cause this reads like you really really want affirmation from other people. Which is unusual

On October 17 2017 14:13 Oatsmaster wrote:


I cant believe that you believe that it makes you town.
Thats ridiculous
##vote FF

On October 16 2017 08:40 Damdred wrote:
I sort of want a wagon on me to build so i can shatter it.

On October 16 2017 08:20 MrLonelyClock wrote:

Important to note that DF says that he doesn't like Damdred giving a free town read on FF and FF doesn't even mention Damdred in his posts. Quite peculiar interaction there indeed.

On October 17 2017 07:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why don't you think damdred is mafia anymore? And do you have other reasons for damerion being mafia other than that he is wrong?

On October 18 2017 06:10 Oatsmaster wrote:

I'm bashing you for constantly saying you aren't happy with the current lynch but not doing anything to push someone else. Seriously it's really frustrating to play in a game where half the game is like "I'm not happy with this but I don't really care to push someone else"

On October 18 2017 06:53 Oatsmaster wrote:

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On October 18 2017 15:01 Oatsmaster wrote:

you think that damdred is making a point that makes sense at all?

On October 18 2017 21:31 Holyflare wrote:
The thing that makes damdred stick out to me is the fact he voted xenonn. He's supposed to have amazing tone reads and even I could pick up the screaming I'm new and lost vibes but his vote was on him for ages. Also how he says 0 words after town reading conversion into voting him.

There's only one thing that I think damdred might do though that makes me hesitate. I'm not gonna give it to him though.

On October 15 2017 05:52 darthfoley wrote:
probably tvt considering it's 10 minutes before deadline and no one is budging

On October 19 2017 04:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also onegu mentions that rux likes conversion which makes him dislike conversion but he never mentions that part again when talking about him later.

On October 19 2017 04:37 Oatsmaster wrote:

Yeah but don't you think it's weird though.

On October 19 2017 06:20 Oatsmaster wrote:

Can you lay out where damerion's thought process is in depth and compare it to the last game where he was town? And give us a conclusion?
Cause right now, you are sitting on the fence on whether damerion is town.

On October 19 2017 06:21 Oatsmaster wrote:

Do you think that not voting for conversion is a point that makes him town or doesn't make him town?

On October 19 2017 06:37 Oatsmaster wrote:

"Currently" ? So your opinion about it can change? What information do you need to change that view?
Also right now, damerion is getting lynched. What are you going to do about it?

On October 19 2017 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote:

I mean, there are a minimum of 2 blue roles so unless you want to counterclaim him, he's definitely blue. And there might even be 3, who knows?!?!?

On October 20 2017 01:57 happykrogan wrote:
1. I think there are already good points on him

Also I don't like how he says he has problems with lenghts of the phases after he already played that other game were he apparently was great.

Also I think the Onegu push was just there so he can show he had a counterwagon to town.

2. We need to know his alignment so that we can read eod1

On October 24 2017 09:29 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why would HF just come out and push a wagon that hard on day 1?

On October 24 2017 09:34 Oatsmaster wrote:

And then he doesn't get onegu to vote with him to kill dam?

On October 24 2017 18:00 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh you slipped when you said they're gonna kill krogan instead of the guy who hammered mafia :D

On October 25 2017 06:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote rux

On October 15 2017 04:33 ruXxar wrote:


Damerion looks slightly worse than conversion.
Conversion is at least fighting to stay alive, and I have a soft spot for people fighting when their life is on the line.

My heart is telling me to vote damerion, my head is telling me to vote conversion.
I haven't made up my mind yet.

On October 15 2017 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
Everyone not voting Damerion right now I want you to write your reasons in this handy format:

All mighty Holyflare, I am sorry I am not sheeping your amazing top tier read on Damerion but I do not agree with it because (insert reasons here). Again, I am sorry that I do not support your read but acknowledge you are really, really good at this game and will listen the next time you make a read and have a full debate with you over the points that you raise. Good day, sir.

On October 26 2017 02:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Probably HF is the easiest to lynch.

On October 26 2017 02:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Probably HF is the easiest to lynch.

On October 26 2017 03:55 Oatsmaster wrote:

He's done so much stupid shit this game. Way more than grack.

On October 26 2017 04:04 Oatsmaster wrote:

Being tunneled on dam?
Randomly claiming shit

On October 26 2017 04:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Bad interactions with conversion

On October 26 2017 05:10 Oatsmaster wrote:

Because stupid =/= scummy.
But I've obviously made that mistake multiple times haha

On October 27 2017 04:31 Oatsmaster wrote:

Lynching damerion day 1 wouldn't have turned out well though

On October 27 2017 04:31 Oatsmaster wrote:

Lynching damerion day 1 wouldn't have turned out well though