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Adam i think you should play instead.
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We should honestly sometime try 9 vs 3, i think the level of town play is good enough to remove 1 mislynch (you can still gain it by doc save -- or not lose another by vigi missing). Also people will care about the game more the less time town has.
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On August 24 2017 16:20 Koshi wrote:
9 vs 3 in minis with a doc (+other blue(s)) is fine.
10 vs 3 with a vigi on mafia side and a doc on town.
or 10 vs 3 with no doc and 1 blue role.
4ml into loss is fine as long as it is close to an all vanilla game.
I'd rather cut down the second option, it's especially annoying to people who tend to get shot early on. Otherwise this seems fine.
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Is there are specific reason why mafia cannot hold their shot?
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On August 24 2017 22:46 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2017 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is there are specific reason why mafia cannot hold their shot? I believe it was to prevent infinite days. I can allow it if that's the general consensus
I think it would be better like "if three days pass with there being only no-lynch and no-kill the game ends in draw". Otherwise jailer is like a cop, but better, when there is 1 mafia left.
I am okay with 12 pl game obvs.
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Evening.
Damdred is weirduuuu and Koshi is confirmed third faction.
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On August 25 2017 05:03 Damdred wrote:
I'm super stressed rayn ran an just trying to relax.
It is interesting lots jumped on my early ls read, and actually plus 1 it.
No i think LS is town too i just don't get your town circle.
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On August 25 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Evening.
Damdred is weirduuuu and Koshi is confirmed third faction. I like em both so far. I was sure HF claimed scum but I'm willing to go for the sick plan version. Anything substantial or just feels?
Me? About what?
idk why Koshi should be town. I think Tumblewood is town so idk what Koshi is doing.
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On August 25 2017 05:07 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:03 Damdred wrote:
I'm super stressed rayn ran an just trying to relax.
It is interesting lots jumped on my early ls read, and actually plus 1 it.
No i think LS is town too i just don't get your town circle. Oh, well non joking wise, vivax posts aren't bad. Art is a null right now. LS is a town read though. Though not a controversial read rip.
I will accept this as an answer.
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On August 25 2017 05:09 Holyflare wrote:
Also rayn are we gonna get along this game?
depends on you, for me yes.
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On August 25 2017 05:12 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:08 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:03 Damdred wrote:
I'm super stressed rayn ran an just trying to relax.
It is interesting lots jumped on my early ls read, and actually plus 1 it.
Why can't we see the same thing you saw? I wasn't going to say anything yet but he was being innocent town puppy. Because generally speaking I have to fight tooth and nail to him not to be scum read. It's an interesting Chang of pace.
Now this is not right Damdred.
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On August 25 2017 05:15 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:09 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 05:07 Vivax wrote:On August 25 2017 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
We got dem mafiaz already guys You are unusual Nah but seriously that koshi post after I did basically claim scum is really fucking out there. Basically talking to me like confirmed town and to come back and join a town circle? Like what? I'll keep that point in mind. I really believed you claimed scum right there.
you did?
On August 25 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Evening.
Damdred is weirduuuu and Koshi is confirmed third faction. I like em both so far. I was sure HF claimed scum but I'm willing to go for the sick plan version. Anything substantial or just feels?
???????????
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On August 25 2017 05:17 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:12 Damdred wrote:On August 25 2017 05:08 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:03 Damdred wrote:
I'm super stressed rayn ran an just trying to relax.
It is interesting lots jumped on my early ls read, and actually plus 1 it.
Why can't we see the same thing you saw? I wasn't going to say anything yet but he was being innocent town puppy. Because generally speaking I have to fight tooth and nail to him not to be scum read. It's an interesting Chang of pace. Now this is not right Damdred. Sure it is, I you look into my last games I generally come up with a quick read on ls. I end up in a fight with the thread at one point or another. (One with ritoky comes to mind ). Did try to lynch him as scum though
What i mean is; Sure you do, so do i. It all depends on players who are in the game. In this game it's not really interesting some other people read LS town too.
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On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote:
I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style.
I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time.
We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler +Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler +so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum.
Elaborate on this conclusion please.
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On August 25 2017 05:26 Holyflare wrote:
Did you even look at koshi's town games?
please, shush, if you are talking about Skynx. I wanna know something 
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On August 25 2017 05:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote:
I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style.
I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time.
We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler +Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler +so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:26 Holyflare wrote:
Did you even look at koshi's town games? please, shush, if you are talking about Skynx. I wanna know something Are you even reading the same game?
Yes. I am talking about the "these three people are not mafia if Koshi is mafia" conclusion.
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On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote:
I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style.
I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time.
We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler +Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler +so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game.
If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be?
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Correct me if iam wrong but wasn't that Vivax, who was first?
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On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote:
I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style.
I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time.
We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler +Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler +so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game. If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be? Mind meld? The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling.
Do not get stuck on "mind meld", it's easy to mind meld if you know the other person (you here) is wrong.
Who did first come to a conclusion in your opinion?
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Can you guys let me talk to Skynx just for a couple of minutes please?
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On August 25 2017 05:37 Skynx wrote:
What i was thinking posting that is I wouldn't make that comment if i was mafia with Koshi, thats literally it.
It doesn't matter, could you please answer me who came to the conclusion first?
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On August 25 2017 05:41 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:37 Skynx wrote:
What i was thinking posting that is I wouldn't make that comment if i was mafia with Koshi, thats literally it. It doesn't matter, could you please answer me who came to the conclusion first? You can find your answer by reading the thread.
I am unsure what you think, what i think doesn't matter if i am trying to get a read on you.
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On August 25 2017 05:44 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:41 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:37 Skynx wrote:
What i was thinking posting that is I wouldn't make that comment if i was mafia with Koshi, thats literally it. It doesn't matter, could you please answer me who came to the conclusion first? You can find your answer by reading the thread. I am unsure what you think, what i think doesn't matter if i am trying to get a read on you. You know aswell as i do that Vivax posted it first. I appreciate getting ganged up on guys keep it coming.
Okay so, let's say Vivax is town. Why can't LS and TW (or one of them) be mafia?
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Actually, i would also like you to answer where is the post where you think Vivax made his conclusion?
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Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
whaaaaat?
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I don't need anyone to be quiet anymore if that's what people are wondering
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idk what else there is to do, you tell me.
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Except that if you are so adamant about me needing to have a conclusion, why dont you give one yourself?
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On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
whaaaaat?
That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point. It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game.
Then stop making stupid cases.
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Why would a mafia dude EVER ignore defending their scumbuddy with ACTUAL reasons (your meta is 100% wrong), Skynx? Tell me that? Tell me why you think mafia would not do that, defend their scumbuddy with 100% accurate reasnoing?
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On August 25 2017 06:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:11 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:11 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 06:06 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would a mafia dude EVER ignore defending their scumbuddy with ACTUAL reasons (your meta is 100% wrong), Skynx? Tell me that? Tell me why you think mafia would not do that, defend their scumbuddy with 100% accurate reasnoing? They don't know if it was wrong yet. ahhh that's my point exactly though! it's a weird train of thought to go through koshi's scum games and then get met with three people saying "But what about his town games?" and then decide that if koshi is mafia then they're all town did you conclude that koshi does this opening as town too? <-------- super important question plz answer He did and even made a post about it. RIGHT don't answer for him tho if he can make this conclusion then why is his first thought "Oh, they were right. If Koshi is mafia though these people aren't!" instead of "If Koshi IS town then these people could be mafia knowing too much!"?
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On August 25 2017 06:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:13 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 06:11 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:11 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 06:06 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would a mafia dude EVER ignore defending their scumbuddy with ACTUAL reasons (your meta is 100% wrong), Skynx? Tell me that? Tell me why you think mafia would not do that, defend their scumbuddy with 100% accurate reasnoing? They don't know if it was wrong yet. ahhh that's my point exactly though! it's a weird train of thought to go through koshi's scum games and then get met with three people saying "But what about his town games?" and then decide that if koshi is mafia then they're all town did you conclude that koshi does this opening as town too? <-------- super important question plz answer He did and even made a post about it. RIGHT don't answer for him tho if he can make this conclusion then why is his first thought "Oh, they were right. If Koshi is mafia though these people aren't!" instead of "If Koshi IS town then these people could be mafia knowing too much!"? Smileys all around. Don't like the fact HF can explain this shit in 2 posts and I understand. You had to make around 20 and I still didn't understand shit. And those 20 posts didn't come close to what HF just analysed. So I repeat "no u"
Well you got 2 mafia then right? I am also super known for bussing my teammates for something noone else even notices, telling everyone to be silent so i can bus and take all the credit for it and then not take any credit for it.
Damn you figured me out. Who is the third mafia?
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classic tumblewood, no matter what the argument is, no matter who the person is, call it the opposite.
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I am quite sure Koshi is actually mafia.
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On August 25 2017 06:36 Koshi wrote:
Oh TW. If you are town. Pay attention to geript. Him entering the thread with a townread on you is suspicious as fuck.
I do not know why mafia geript would enter like that.
I do not know how town geript can have that read.
Can you explain why it's suspicious for geript to have that kind of a read but it's not suspicious for me (as you, when you think i am mafia yell it into eternity)?
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On August 25 2017 06:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:43 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 06:36 Koshi wrote:
Oh TW. If you are town. Pay attention to geript. Him entering the thread with a townread on you is suspicious as fuck.
I do not know why mafia geript would enter like that.
I do not know how town geript can have that read. are you telling me to watch out for geript because you think i'm mafia and he's supposed to know that No. I am telling you that if you are town. You should know it is pretty weird with 4 townleaders yelling in a fast growing thread geript comes in with a townread on you. There are easier townreads to have in this thread. And that townread on you is lazy as fuck.
geript called other people town too.
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On August 25 2017 06:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:36 Koshi wrote:
Oh TW. If you are town. Pay attention to geript. Him entering the thread with a townread on you is suspicious as fuck.
I do not know why mafia geript would enter like that.
I do not know how town geript can have that read. Can you explain why it's suspicious for geript to have that kind of a read but it's not suspicious for me (as you, when you think i am mafia yell it into eternity)? I don't know what you are asking here. If you had the same read on TW I didn't see it. I made a case on you previous game about you entering with a townread on TW that was incorrect. But that has nothing to do with this. I don't think town!geript comes in with that read on TW after reading this thread. HF, rayn, Vivax, Koshi posting a shitton and he picks out TW. nha.
How on earth you don't know i have a townread on Tumblewood, or question me for it for one bit when all game you have implied you think i am mafia?!?!?!? But when geript says it, yes sure yell he is scum.
On August 25 2017 06:48 Holyflare wrote:
probs makes him mafia tho
0 content on skynx
I don't really think it makes him mafia.
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On August 25 2017 06:58 Koshi wrote:
Still. He is by far the most underwhelming player who also posted like mafia would post.
Nha. geript's actions only make sense as mafia if Skynx is also mafia so this doesn't make any sense.
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I mean if geript is mafia and Skynx is town why WOULDNT geript talk about Skynx?
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On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.
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On August 25 2017 07:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:58 Koshi wrote:
Still. He is by far the most underwhelming player who also posted like mafia would post. Nha. geript's actions only make sense as mafia if Skynx is also mafia so this doesn't make any sense. ?????????????????????????????????????? but you've called skynx mafia all time???
Yes but Koshi is implying geript is the scummiest dude in the game.
geript is only the scummy if Skynx is scum so Skynx should be the scummiest dude (otherwise geript isn't even that scummy).
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On August 25 2017 06:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:36 Koshi wrote:
Oh TW. If you are town. Pay attention to geript. Him entering the thread with a townread on you is suspicious as fuck.
I do not know why mafia geript would enter like that.
I do not know how town geript can have that read. Can you explain why it's suspicious for geript to have that kind of a read but it's not suspicious for me (as you, when you think i am mafia yell it into eternity)? I don't know what you are asking here. If you had the same read on TW I didn't see it. I made a case on you previous game about you entering with a townread on TW that was incorrect. But that has nothing to do with this. I don't think town!geript comes in with that read on TW after reading this thread. HF, rayn, Vivax, Koshi posting a shitton and he picks out TW. nha.
Like Holyflare. I think Koshi is trying to say here (without saying it) what you said, that geript should comment on other things that has happened (which is basically only Skynx). geript not commenting on Skynx makes only sense if they are both mafia -- from mafia perspective. So i think Koshi should not come to a conclusion that geript is the scummiest person in the game unless he also thinks Skynx is mafia, in which case ALSO he should not conclude geript is the scummiest person in the game (note that he agreed on what you said on Skynx already).
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On August 25 2017 07:15 Koshi wrote:
So in your world I have a wrong read on Skynx but a correct read on geript. But because I have a wrong read on Skynx I can't have a correct read on geript.
Looks like bad logic to me.
No i am saying you can't call geript mafia for the reasons you are calling him mafia for unless Skynx is mafia in your mind.
That means you're voting someone you should not be voting, and i think it makes you mafia.
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Anyways, it's sleepytime for me. cya tomorrow.
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On August 25 2017 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
What the shit are you saying? Why can't he just be mafia independently for not talking about important things and giving free reads?
You don't probably understand, but trust me, i am telling you this:
If Skynx is town in this game, geript is not mafia.
100%.
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On August 25 2017 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
What the shit are you saying? Why can't he just be mafia independently for not talking about important things and giving free reads? You don't probably understand, but trust me, i am telling you this: If Skynx is town in this game, geript is not mafia. 100%.
Especially if you are town, Holyflare..
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On August 25 2017 07:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
What the shit are you saying? Why can't he just be mafia independently for not talking about important things and giving free reads? You don't probably understand, but trust me, i am telling you this: If Skynx is town in this game, geript is not mafia. 100%. If geript is mafia. Does that make Skynx mafia?
yes, but skynx being mafia does not make geript mafia.
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On August 25 2017 07:27 Holyflare wrote:
You're right I don't understand it so I'll just ignore it
It's okay.
Now i really need to sleep.
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I think there is a decent chance Artanis is mafia.
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On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given
2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx
3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing
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On August 25 2017 09:34 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 08:42 Holyflare wrote:
that post says entirely nothing geript You don't find it interesting that Koshi is calling me scum both for noticing his posting and for not noticing his posting? That's not in any way weird about it? IDK if I explained it well the first time. Like let me explain it this way. Koshi is scumreading me for, at 6:14, posting this: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird. 1/20 I am posting about TW's post: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else That post is here on page 10 at 5:47. Koshi's first relevant post on the subject is: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:49 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:48 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:46 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:45 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. rayn told them to. Nha they left earlier. Meh. It's good that you stayed. Didn't like that Vivax/TW/LS aren't mafia with Koshi line tbh. But I like that you are posting and trying to solve the game. You are fine for now. Got anything you want to discuss? You guys are preventing me from doing anything else right now. I'd be happy if i was allowed to go back and read others aswell. That is what I am implying with that post. Let's do something else. rayn still wants you to explain why you wrote that line though. But he is devolving the initial situation into something else and I don't like it anymore. That post is here at 5:49. Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for something I couldn't even have read if I'm following the thread in any kind of reasonable way. Like Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for how he reads Rayn in when the whole Skynx situation doesn't even really resolve until my first post is already made. Like that's a really fucking weird argument to be making. It's strikes a bunch on the idea of, "You'll scumread me for the right reasons." Like you should be scumreading me at point A for what I do at point B when point B follows point A.
I think Koshi is saying you shouldn't be scumreading him (anymore) as you have assumedly caught up with the thread when you made your post where you called him mafia and me town. Idk what you're trying to say here.
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On August 25 2017 17:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. 1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given 2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx 3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing His read on you is better explained. I agree that the analysis yesterday was lacking.
So you are saying you have a townread on Artanis because he can correctly townread me (when you for example can't).... weaaaakkkkkk.
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I think Skynx is mafia because his reasoning for what he said earlier doesn't add up (he was basically lying). Also what Holyflare said. I honestly didn't catch up on what HF said before he said it, i was looking for something else on him, which i got an answer to when he said he was actually doing something else his posts say.
I don't have any reason to townread Koshi and unfortunately that almost always makes him mafia.
I think Artanis has a decent chance of being mafia.
I don't know why i -- or anyone should townread Vivax at this point.
Holyflare is being smart - town. Damdred is probably town. LS is town. Barring one thing Tumblewood too but i am still gonna check that tonight just to be sure and, geript... Meh.. idk, i tend to not read geript's posts at all since whenever i try i come to a wrong conclusion like 75% of the time. At some point i developed a decent way of reading him and i am gonna use it this game.
Anyways heading to work now, i should be back at 8-9pm cest. Dunno if i have an easy day or not, but i'll at least read what i can during work.
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On August 25 2017 17:47 Holyflare wrote:
Also please for the love of god, hosts, make your filter links open on whatever site the user is on. I just can't filter dive at work.
look at CCCP mafia for this, you need to remove something from the links but i cba to look at that on phone.
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Holyflare; i dont think "Skynx and artanis are not mafia together" is necessarily true. I will explain this tonight since it needs quoting.
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Also, here is my problem wirh Vivax this game. Vivax makes townie looking posts, i agree to that. But he never calls anyone anything from the arguments he choosea to interact to.
Read his posts. He has talked in lengths on skynx and koshi. Can you tell what's his conclusion on their alignment?
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Meh that was badly explained. I think vivax lacks his normal conf bias in how certain he is about a read.
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Holyflare, are you around in about 1.5 hrs?
Lets have a talk then.
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Alright HF. The reason i don't think you should write off Artanis & Skynx as non-scumbuddies is the following;
The last game i was town in Skynx started the game in a "similar" manner (you remember his "rayn is scum but i didnt read the thread" case). That case was based on his understanding of my meta from the previous game where i was mafia. I think it's quite safe to say Skynx' early game (at least as town) and opener is heavily based on meta (and feels for it). I believe there is a high chance Skynx is trying to imitate this as mafia here. The reasoning is the following:
The whole thing on Koshi was very very stupid, like there was literally no thought process behind what he said. However that doesn't really make him mafia. What caught my attention was when he was making conclusions while at the same time saying "my post ("case" on Koshi) didn't make any sense at all in the first place" since you can't even start to make conclusions when the premises are already wrong and you KNOW it (why would ANYONE, with or without Koshi being mafia NOT call out dumb stuff liek that?). The rest of it + what you brought up was already discussed.
Now based on the above, i think there is also a chance Artanis realizes this Skynx' last game thingy. I think it's even likely it has been discussed in scum QT in case they are both mafia. Therefore it makes perfect sense that Artanis would soft-defend Skynx like he did. I mean like, i am not saying this is something that makes Artanis mafia. I am just saying it is entirely possible for him to be mafia with Skynx. The reasons i think Artanis is mafia are:
On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. 1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given 2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx 3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing
And then there is also this post:
On August 26 2017 00:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I actually really hate that rayn focussed solely on my skynx read and didnt mention the point hf brought up regarding him saying the same thing to skynx last game to rels. Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad. He scumreads me anyway but doesnt mention it at all.
Rescinding rayn townread.
Why would i focus on anything other than his super duper terrible read?
I don't understand what the second sentence means?
"Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad" -- which means? Is Artanis saying his townread on me was bad? Shouldn't it make him mafia, not me? OR what is he trying to say here?
I have absolutely zero clue what Artanis is trying to do in this game or why he even comes up with his conclusions.
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Like really really closely read this:
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi.
Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread:
"he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened?
Dno much about Skynx' mafia play
...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta.
Well done.
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On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like really really closely read this: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread: "he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened? Dno much about Skynx' mafia play ...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta. Well done. Who typed this?
*Artanis
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On August 26 2017 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like really really closely read this: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread: "he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened? Dno much about Skynx' mafia play ...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta. Well done. Who typed this? *Artanis You think hes mafia?
Yes
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On August 26 2017 03:00 Skynx wrote:
Do you even scumread me afterall rayn?
What is this bs "rayn doesnt even scumread me" when i have literally said you have the highest chance of being mafia in the game? Can you even read what i write?
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Vivax is okay for now. I must have missed his vote when reading his filter.
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Tumblewood:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.
Does this look anything comparable to geript's read on you this game?
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On August 26 2017 03:04 Koshi wrote:
I can see that you are somewhat stuck on a Artanis/Skynx mafia team for a while now. But given the Ruxxar/HF tandem I really don't understand why you are looking for mafia there.
It's either Koshi and friends who are mafia. Or HF/Ruxxar and somebody who is mafia.
And if you think those are 2 townparties clashing. Why are you mumbling about Artanis/Skynx lol
I am not sure if you are mafia or not.
If i have to choose between voting you or HF/ruxxar atm my vote will 100% go on you. You can count on that until you start doing town!Koshi things. Now you're just being sad you're being called mafia.
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On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1.
How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue.
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On August 26 2017 03:13 Skynx wrote:
This is what you've said to be exact and i think it was important to make your stance clear cuz you haven't been clear about it so far.
Incorrect, this is what i said to be exact:
I think Skynx is mafia because his reasoning for what he said earlier doesn't add up (he was basically lying). Also what Holyflare said. I honestly didn't catch up on what HF said before he said it, i was looking for something else on him, which i got an answer to when he said he was actually doing something else his posts say.
After this you tell the thread that:
rayn's push on me seems like towny but there is no conclusion to it. No vote on me and his last thoughts when i was around looked like he had me as bad town but he's still pushing the agenda of mafia!skynx.
Apparently here you still thought i think you're mafia so now you're again saying 2 completely different things based on how it suits your agenda.
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Anyway you're whole point is based on an assumption that I'm making a play so I don't think you will get far with this.
No that's not what i am saying. That's a completely different point that has nothing to do with my conclusion, maybe you just can't (or don't want to) understand it. It's fine though because i don't need to make you think you are scum.
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On August 26 2017 03:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue. Will check this later to see if this is true.
No need to it's true:
generic : Koshi, rsoultin
last ms-paint game: rayn
the big game: xatalos (also had a scumread on me he dropped mid-D1)
we all were mafia.
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On August 26 2017 03:15 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Tumblewood: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. Does this look anything comparable to geript's read on you this game? yes as in i think his meta is consistent, but i don't think that quote is a complete representation of his meta. later that game -- or if that quote wasn't from mspo, sometime in mspo -- geript said "town!TW says what he thinks" a couple times and he said that exactly to start off this game. not that i think i have said what i think any more or less this game, but it is at least a consistent approach.
How is the geript quote comparable to this post he called you town for:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else
Is this like... a good observation?
Or does this go well with "he says what he thinks"? I mean like you aren't really saying anything here (in mafia terms), right?
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Also that post of yours certainly cannot go to " His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything." category, right?
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I think you just turned what geript said (as town) in the last game he said how he reads you, upside down.
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Well Oatsmaster is town so that's good. Now if Ruxxar would just post more it would be nice.
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On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Wait Tumblewood you mean this post?
What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more?
1) says what he thinks
2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything
We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.
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On August 26 2017 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well Oatsmaster is town so that's good. Now if Ruxxar would just post more it would be nice.
The bad thing is that we will almost definitely lose this game and i know it already. 
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On August 26 2017 03:35 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:25 Tumblewood wrote:
this just in: rayn is downgraded to scumlean, for something 20 pages back.
scumlean for what i call "lawyering" against skynx, aka asking so many questions that even a townie is likely to slip up (at least enough to be pushable). not scumread because i am aware rayn is known to ask lots of questions normally, however this time is a little Different How is it a little different from a misguided townie asking questions? i don't think rayn asking questions is misguided when he is town. like of course it makes sense to ask questions to figure out someone's alignment. but the reason i say lawyering is because a real technique lawyers use is to question witnesses rapidfire in the hopes they say something stupid so they can slam them for it. and rayn's questioning of skynx seemed like that to me, like it had a high chance of creating a slip that wasn't there. however if skynx is scum (which i don't think is true but always worth it to consider the possibility) rayn is 99% town.
I do not do that Tumblewood... As mafia i ask questions in a way where i can turn the answers (whatever they are) profitable for me. As town i am actually curious why someone did something. You can decide which one this is.
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Actually i did ask one loaded question from skynx but that was for a reason.
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On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Wait Tumblewood you mean this post? What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more? 1) says what he thinks 2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.
geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense.
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On August 26 2017 03:43 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Wait Tumblewood you mean this post? What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more? 1) says what he thinks 2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example. i don't know anymore who you are accusing or why but if geript is mafia it is not for how he applied meta on me. so please stop making me explain the same thing over and over
I am not accusing anyone, i am asking you why you are saying geript's meta read (what is what YOU think it was) makes complete sense, when it doesn't, if it is one.
I see an inconsistency, i question it. I wanna know what i am missing or why do you think so in the first place?
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Like let me make this very simple:
- Tumblewood makes a post
- geript calls it town
- Tumblewood says "that's how geript reads me" (meta)
- We dig up geript's meta on Tumblewood
- geript's meta from his last game as town suggests that he should actually scumread Tumblewood for that post based on meta(my opinion)
Now i want to know why you, Tumblewood, made the bolded post, because i don't understand why you think so.
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On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Wait Tumblewood you mean this post? What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more? 1) says what he thinks 2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example. geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense. I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him.
Was that before or after Tublewood said "that's how geript reads me"?
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On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Wait Tumblewood you mean this post? What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more? 1) says what he thinks 2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example. geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense. I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him.
Actually no you didn't. Answer this again please, since there is no way this is a "good observation", those are the only two options.
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On August 26 2017 03:53 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:23 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue. Will check this later to see if this is true. Why would you post this??? koshi might actually be mafia Just noting it for myself??? Because you look at your filter?? I do look at my own filter at times why?
He's probably gonna say you're mafia because you don't remember what you posted before and try to avoid inconsistancies.
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Holyflareeee!!!!!!
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On August 26 2017 03:57 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Wait Tumblewood you mean this post? What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more? 1) says what he thinks 2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example. geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense. I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him. Actually no you didn't. Answer this again please, since there is no way this is a "good observation", those are the only two options. So last game when I was scum, I filtered a bit of TW's other games to look for things that look different but really aren't. I noticed as Town he just kinda post what he thinks. It's a bit feelsy. But when the guy is already kinda being pushed, if you say a thing it kinda becomes thread sentiment and especially so when what you say already has the ring of truth/accuracy to it.
Yes i understand this. What i don't understand is why you think the specific post Tumblewood made makes you think he is town, because based on how you view him -- remember the " His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything" -- you shouldn't be able to make a judgement call on him.
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Unless ofc you explain how this can't in any way be "struggles to post".
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On August 26 2017 04:03 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:53 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:23 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue. Will check this later to see if this is true. Why would you post this??? koshi might actually be mafia Just noting it for myself??? Because you look at your filter?? I do look at my own filter at times why? He's probably gonna say you're mafia because you don't remember what you posted before and try to avoid inconsistancies. I was just thinking why he would scumread me and then boom you posted this. I know I been inconsistant as both alignments so it's nai. Also I had a question: When you said generic you talking the latest one or generic 1? Because Generic 2 he was scum and the other one that I looked at he wasn't in it? Can confirm that he did in 2 of those games you listed just questioning the 3rd one.
Generic 3.
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On August 26 2017 04:05 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:53 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:23 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue. Will check this later to see if this is true. Why would you post this??? koshi might actually be mafia Just noting it for myself??? Because you look at your filter?? I do look at my own filter at times why? Great then. So if what rayn said is true, any conclusions you can draw from it? If it isnt true, what are the conclusions? It's a lie but idk why Koshi would lie about that honestly I will ask him when he gets back on why he lied there.
Because when HF is town and you're mafia you just call him trash so at least he doesn't do anything else for the time you're alive.
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On August 26 2017 04:07 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:57 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Wait Tumblewood you mean this post? What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more? 1) says what he thinks 2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example. geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense. I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him. Actually no you didn't. Answer this again please, since there is no way this is a "good observation", those are the only two options. So last game when I was scum, I filtered a bit of TW's other games to look for things that look different but really aren't. I noticed as Town he just kinda post what he thinks. It's a bit feelsy. But when the guy is already kinda being pushed, if you say a thing it kinda becomes thread sentiment and especially so when what you say already has the ring of truth/accuracy to it. Yes i understand this. What i don't understand is why you think the specific post Tumblewood made makes you think he is town, because based on how you view him -- remember the " His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything" -- you shouldn't be able to make a judgement call on him. Because I found a better way to meta him. Like, you're quoting me from a game where I'm trying to remember old meta and I'm not even sure if I'm remembering the right person. Like before generic, my last game was what, a year before maybe more? Like there's no reason to use something old that ime not even sure is correct when I have something up to date and has no risk of conflating players.
Okay, can you explain this meta read then, since i can't find it. You're just saying "he says what he thinks" which is the same sentence than your previous meta was so how should i be differentiate this new metaing from you from the old one?
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Idk, i don't think this means anything regarding Tumblewood's alignment. I don't mean to be a dick here but like... for someone who takes an argument and calls it XvX without even actually contributing to it, i can see how he comes to the conclusion he does.
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On August 26 2017 04:14 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:07 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:57 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
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In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Wait Tumblewood you mean this post? What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more? 1) says what he thinks 2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example. geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense. I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him. Actually no you didn't. Answer this again please, since there is no way this is a "good observation", those are the only two options. So last game when I was scum, I filtered a bit of TW's other games to look for things that look different but really aren't. I noticed as Town he just kinda post what he thinks. It's a bit feelsy. But when the guy is already kinda being pushed, if you say a thing it kinda becomes thread sentiment and especially so when what you say already has the ring of truth/accuracy to it. Yes i understand this. What i don't understand is why you think the specific post Tumblewood made makes you think he is town, because based on how you view him -- remember the " His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything" -- you shouldn't be able to make a judgement call on him. Because I found a better way to meta him. Like, you're quoting me from a game where I'm trying to remember old meta and I'm not even sure if I'm remembering the right person. Like before generic, my last game was what, a year before maybe more? Like there's no reason to use something old that ime not even sure is correct when I have something up to date and has no risk of conflating players. Okay, can you explain this meta read then, since i can't find it. You're just saying "he says what he thinks" which is the same sentence than your previous meta was so how should i be differentiate this new metaing from you from the old one? Remember Generic 3? Remember Ruxxar who had a complete inability to not vomit each and every single little thought he had in the thread? It's kinda like that but way more subdued. It's like he has a thought, gives no shit about how it makes him look and just posts it. On sec let me get on comp to find an example.
Please do since i don't care about what Ruxxar did.
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Oh oh oh.... Let's do this!!
geript did you read any of his scumgames? 
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On August 26 2017 04:16 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 04:22 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig How does skynx have good tone? cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" This isn't an answer dear you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes It's like this post.
That's the post i initially liked from him but that's NOT what you said.
So i can't know if you are saying this now only to cover up a mistake you made as mafia.
So it doesn't matter, i only care about why you initially said what you did. So please focus on the only post you quoted from Tumblewood.
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On August 26 2017 04:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think its pretty clear why I think LS is mafia
I think you're wrong.
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But can you make a bullet point list Oats?
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On August 26 2017 04:20 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:16 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 04:22 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig How does skynx have good tone? cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" This isn't an answer dear you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes It's like this post. That's the post i initially liked from him but that's NOT what you said. So i can't know if you are saying this now only to cover up a mistake you made as mafia. So it doesn't matter, i only care about why you initially said what you did. So please focus on the only post you quoted from Tumblewood. ??? That post isn't even in this game... I don't get your question rayn
wait he made a similar one let me dig it up.
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On August 26 2017 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:20 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:16 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 04:22 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig How does skynx have good tone? cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" This isn't an answer dear you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes It's like this post. That's the post i initially liked from him but that's NOT what you said. So i can't know if you are saying this now only to cover up a mistake you made as mafia. So it doesn't matter, i only care about why you initially said what you did. So please focus on the only post you quoted from Tumblewood. ??? That post isn't even in this game... I don't get your question rayn wait he made a similar one let me dig it up.
this one:
On August 25 2017 06:30 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't get why it took this much effort from anyone to shit on skynx for doing something that imo is not even scummy
this is much closer to your "new" meta than what you said.
why did you decide to quote a completely irrelevant post instead?
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On August 26 2017 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
Oats looks good.
Artanis dropped off face of earth.
Rayn looks way better this game than last. Not sure I agree with his artanis/skynx conclusions though. Bit far fetched.
Vivax largely irrelevant? Scary.
Geript needs to scum hunt instead of answering questions.
Damdred gives me warm fuzzy feelings of old damdred reads
Tw just poeing not read him. Will call him scum all game and arbitrarily call him town at another.
Ruxxar is scarily quiet. Backwards logic on skynx and afk. He's voting koshbag though so for now it's ok.
Anyone else?
Do not get me wrong. I am not saying either of them is mafia because of the "association" (if that's what you're saying). I am saying you shouldn't count them out as being mafia together.
If that's not what you're saying then i have no idea what you're saying since you seem to be thinking both of them are amfia...
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HF, we really need to get this shit together today (D1). Or at last N1, one of us is gonna die and i don't have much hopes for after. This is mainly NOT because i think other people are bad, it is just because i think everyone has completely different reads.
So talk to me. I think you are town and i think you are my best bet to braintease with.
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On August 26 2017 04:37 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:20 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:16 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 04:22 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:
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How does skynx have good tone? cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" This isn't an answer dear you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes It's like this post. That's the post i initially liked from him but that's NOT what you said. So i can't know if you are saying this now only to cover up a mistake you made as mafia. So it doesn't matter, i only care about why you initially said what you did. So please focus on the only post you quoted from Tumblewood. ??? That post isn't even in this game... I don't get your question rayn wait he made a similar one let me dig it up. this one: On August 25 2017 06:30 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't get why it took this much effort from anyone to shit on skynx for doing something that imo is not even scummy this is much closer to your "new" meta than what you said. why did you decide to quote a completely irrelevant post instead? It's not a completely irrelevant post; it's a post I liked better. It's a post that stuck in my mind because it was more than just #metaread.
really? a post that says "i didn't wanna do anything just because"?? I am not sure if i believe this.
Alright, were not getting anywhere further here, what's your read on ruxxar and Skynx?
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On August 26 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
Oats looks good.
Artanis dropped off face of earth.
Rayn looks way better this game than last. Not sure I agree with his artanis/skynx conclusions though. Bit far fetched.
Vivax largely irrelevant? Scary.
Geript needs to scum hunt instead of answering questions.
Damdred gives me warm fuzzy feelings of old damdred reads
Tw just poeing not read him. Will call him scum all game and arbitrarily call him town at another.
Ruxxar is scarily quiet. Backwards logic on skynx and afk. He's voting koshbag though so for now it's ok.
Anyone else? Do not get me wrong. I am not saying either of them is mafia because of the "association" (if that's what you're saying). I am saying you shouldn't count them out as being mafia together. If that's not what you're saying then i have no idea what you're saying since you seem to be thinking both of them are amfia... I'm likely going to discount them both as a mafia team. I do scum read them both independently though. Don't ask me how or why. I don't know.
I think you're wrong there.
But okay. Let Koshi do something without calling him mafia. Ok? We can always lynch him if he is scum and you making him annoyed can make you scumread him but i am not sure other can figure out it (if he is scum), hell i don't even know if i can.
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On August 26 2017 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
What do you wanna talk about? I don't understand this whole geript thing
Idk, i think Koshi might be right in geript's Tumblewood read being shit.
Or do you think Tumblewood is mafia?
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On August 26 2017 04:41 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:37 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:20 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:16 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 04:22 geript wrote:
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This isn't an answer dear you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes It's like this post. That's the post i initially liked from him but that's NOT what you said. So i can't know if you are saying this now only to cover up a mistake you made as mafia. So it doesn't matter, i only care about why you initially said what you did. So please focus on the only post you quoted from Tumblewood. ??? That post isn't even in this game... I don't get your question rayn wait he made a similar one let me dig it up. this one: On August 25 2017 06:30 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't get why it took this much effort from anyone to shit on skynx for doing something that imo is not even scummy this is much closer to your "new" meta than what you said. why did you decide to quote a completely irrelevant post instead? It's not a completely irrelevant post; it's a post I liked better. It's a post that stuck in my mind because it was more than just #metaread. really? a post that says "i didn't wanna do anything just because"?? I am not sure if i believe this. Alright, were not getting anywhere further here, what's your read on ruxxar and Skynx? I don't have one. could you form any?
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On August 26 2017 04:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:41 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:37 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:20 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:16 geript wrote:
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It's like this post. That's the post i initially liked from him but that's NOT what you said. So i can't know if you are saying this now only to cover up a mistake you made as mafia. So it doesn't matter, i only care about why you initially said what you did. So please focus on the only post you quoted from Tumblewood. ??? That post isn't even in this game... I don't get your question rayn wait he made a similar one let me dig it up. this one: On August 25 2017 06:30 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't get why it took this much effort from anyone to shit on skynx for doing something that imo is not even scummy this is much closer to your "new" meta than what you said. why did you decide to quote a completely irrelevant post instead? It's not a completely irrelevant post; it's a post I liked better. It's a post that stuck in my mind because it was more than just #metaread. really? a post that says "i didn't wanna do anything just because"?? I am not sure if i believe this. Alright, were not getting anywhere further here, what's your read on ruxxar and Skynx? I don't have one. could you form any? I don't know. I'm kinda just playing the game as a distraction for myself right now.
Can you give a read on them please? Anything, if you wanna stand on "i can't form a read on them atm" then say so.
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On August 26 2017 04:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
What do you wanna talk about? I don't understand this whole geript thing Idk, i think Koshi might be right in geript's Tumblewood read being shit. Or do you think Tumblewood is mafia? I've read like one thing tw wrote and it was a bad town read list. I have no opinion other than that.
I only had a problem with Tumblewood's read on geript, or how he kinda.. umm.. "brushed off reading him" based on "yeah that's okay" when it really wasn't that clear at all. But like, i think town!Tumblewood can do that. Idk, i don't really have problems with his other posts, making a list me or you think is bad doesn't really add up to being mafia in itself.
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On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit. Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?
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On August 26 2017 05:03 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
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In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit. On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here? He calling me mafia for those points.
I know but idk why.
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On August 26 2017 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar good kill
no geript is scum. look at his ruxxar read.
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On August 26 2017 05:45 Vivax wrote:
I want to murder Ruxxar instead of Skynx I think. He's getting it all wrong and just piling bs upon bs,
I think you're bad then. Ruxxar getting it all wrong doesnt make him mafia.
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Skynx, Artanis, geript.
Final answer.
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I am jsut 50/50 if i shoud say something.
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What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.
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Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too.
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On August 26 2017 06:43 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
[quote]
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit. On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here? This is why I think LS is mafia dude
But i have no idea why you think he is mafia.
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On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning. Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too. So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town." Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating. Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame.
I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read.
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On August 26 2017 06:53 ruXxar wrote:
Skyx is town, and any assumptions you make about me without assuming that i think that skynx is town, is going into failure city. So fuck right off with that this nstant.
Why is Skynx town?
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On August 26 2017 06:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning. On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too. So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town." Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating. Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame. I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read. I'm glad you don't want to lynch me today, but if you're town it's a lot easier to cooperate when you find out that I'm town anyway, so let's talk tomorrow mkay?
I can talk whenever you decide to say something that makes sense.
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On August 26 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning. On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too. So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town." Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating. Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame. I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read. So im gonna be 100% honest. I kinda liked Artanis read earlier on, based purely on structure and convicton. HOWEVER... im still watiing for a certain something to kick in when it comes to rayn..... I gotta ask.. rayn dont you think im scummy?
why does it matteR?
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On August 26 2017 06:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 06:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning. On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too. So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town." Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating. Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame. I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read. I'm glad you don't want to lynch me today, but if you're town it's a lot easier to cooperate when you find out that I'm town anyway, so let's talk tomorrow mkay? I can talk whenever you decide to say something that I think makes sense. FTFY!
correct.
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On August 26 2017 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 06:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:[quote] It's not exactly true... From Generic: [quote] The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. [quote] A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. [quote] [quote] Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit. On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
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In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here? This is why I think LS is mafia dude But i have no idea why you think he is mafia. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.
I am gonna let you push on this if you want to.
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Hey artanis, you happen to have any mafia reads?
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For the record Oats is town.
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On August 26 2017 07:01 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 06:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Useless question.
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Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
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Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit. On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:[quote] It's not exactly true... From Generic: [quote] The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. [quote] A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. [quote] [quote] Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here? This is why I think LS is mafia dude But i have no idea why you think he is mafia. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit. I am gonna let you push on this if you want to. I would rather lynch TW today. What do you think about that?
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On August 26 2017 07:04 ruXxar wrote:YES
Youre town too but youre also the dumbest idiot who has set foot on this game...
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On August 26 2017 07:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
My conclusion is that geript's initial townread on TW at that point of time makes no sense if hes mafia.
why?
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On August 26 2017 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey artanis, you happen to have any mafia reads? I think Geript is the most likely to be mafia atm, but I need to actually read the content I missed at work to give you any more than that.
If skynx flips mafia can we always lynch you because you were so bad?
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i mean i havent said it but i am gonna 100% push a lynch on him D1.
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then it's just bad or good.
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On August 26 2017 07:13 ruXxar wrote:
Rayn made a blue claim???!! I thought that was HF claiming cop.
cc me then.
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On August 26 2017 07:27 Holyflare wrote:
I'm just going to make a case on koshi and you can all sheep it while he continues to post afk excuses like his normal mafia meta
i really think we should lynch skynx.
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On August 26 2017 07:38 Holyflare wrote:
fuck it I cba to collect all of these koshi quotes it's far too much effort but the gist of it is:
TW read => mafia, mafia, mafia, mafia => ???????????????? not on any scum list at any point in time ever
Skynx read => good hf read, weird, good kill, don't wan't to lynch, not in mafia list at all (ALL WHILE SKYNX HASN'T POSTED ONCE)
HF read => (sees hf claim mafia in thread) come on join town circle, town, town, good analysis on skynx, not annoying enough, "Bad" (not even mafia), in scum list with no vote, insults about my ability to not find mafia, insults about how i'm bad with more quotes highlighting my badness, afk excuses, returns to insult, afk excuses
Artanis read => sees artanis post trashiest analysis seen yet, says it's good, solid analysis, artanis is mafia because he likes read on skynx, artanis doesn't feature in any scum list koshi makes ever => ???????????
koshi scum list => afker, afker, geript
koshi new scum list => town guy, bad looking ruxxar at time, geript => all of those people voting him at that time so omgus
If you seriously want me to lynch Koshi tomorrow i will 100% sheep you, but i am not sure. Skynx is mafia thouhg. Artanis also more that Koshi in my ipinion. Maybe even geript.
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On August 26 2017 07:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im pretty ambivalent to lynch skynx.
Rayn you wanna convince me?
not really no, if you can't read what's been written then your vote is prolly a no go, which is why i said we lose this game. too many townies in a wrong place.
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skynx is mafia though, always, 100%.
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On August 26 2017 07:51 Vivax wrote:And I hope Ruxxar is male otherwise I wouldn't say bitch please. I'll back this vote for ego bonus as well since his Koshi push looked fishy and one-sided. I'm at something like HF/Ruxx/Skynx atm.
Explain your HF and Ruxxar scumreds.
You are not getting away with "paranoid Vivax" shit anymore.
Now, do it. I am expecting an answer when i wake up.
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Oh you found something else. Good.
Goodnight. HF if you're around later, make these people tell mafia or town.
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Anyone wh ohas a scumread on Holyflrae and has not explained it when i wake up i will lynch always. I will make up shit and fucking lynch the shit out of them. Koshi, fuck you.
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On August 26 2017 08:04 Vivax wrote:
The reason HF is scummy is that he's mostly just finding anything he can to push people with very little town hunting besides it.
You have to be mafia or really fucking bad if this is your conclusion.
I say bad.
We will lose. Said it already.
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On August 26 2017 08:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 08:02 Tumblewood wrote:
2014 was a time when players lynched each other for being bad instead of being scum. i can see why vets like it. I dont think the winrates are dissimilar. You arent lynching people for being scum, you are lynching people for not being town. Slightly different things.
yet 2014 summer we lynched mafia 50% of the games on D1.
I played 3 games at once, working 14 hrs a day.
Do not prank on 2014 when you have no idea what you're talking about.
Ever. Please.
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On August 26 2017 08:22 Tumblewood wrote:at what point did people start saying this anyway
2014
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TW i dont think youre mafia but like... if you have something to say, please say it. Dont just hide behind nasty comments.
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On August 26 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx, Artanis, geript.
Final answer.
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Tumblewood is not mafia btw.
Now srsly gn.
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I find it scummy geript can do this:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
But can't do this:
On August 26 2017 04:14 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright, were not getting anywhere further here, what's your read on ruxxar and Skynx? I don't have one.
.. based on what's in the thread at both points geript (gives a read on Tumblewood / doesn't give a read on ruxxar) from those people.
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Fuck the last post of mine is missing a quote.
On August 26 2017 04:14 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:07 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:57 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
[quote]
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Wait Tumblewood you mean this post? What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more? 1) says what he thinks 2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example. geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense. I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him. Actually no you didn't. Answer this again please, since there is no way this is a "good observation", those are the only two options. So last game when I was scum, I filtered a bit of TW's other games to look for things that look different but really aren't. I noticed as Town he just kinda post what he thinks. It's a bit feelsy. But when the guy is already kinda being pushed, if you say a thing it kinda becomes thread sentiment and especially so when what you say already has the ring of truth/accuracy to it. Yes i understand this. What i don't understand is why you think the specific post Tumblewood made makes you think he is town, because based on how you view him -- remember the " His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything" -- you shouldn't be able to make a judgement call on him. Because I found a better way to meta him. Like, you're quoting me from a game where I'm trying to remember old meta and I'm not even sure if I'm remembering the right person. Like before generic, my last game was what, a year before maybe more? Like there's no reason to use something old that ime not even sure is correct when I have something up to date and has no risk of conflating players. Okay, can you explain this meta read then, since i can't find it. You're just saying "he says what he thinks" which is the same sentence than your previous meta was so how should i be differentiate this new metaing from you from the old one? Remember Generic 3? [b][u] Remember Ruxxar who had a complete inability to not vomit each and every single little thought he had in the thread?[b][u] It's kinda like that but way more subdued. It's like he has a thought, gives no shit about how it makes him look and just posts it. On sec let me get on comp to find an example.
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ebwop:
Fuck the last post of mine is missing a quote.
On August 26 2017 04:14 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:07 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:57 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
[quote]
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Wait Tumblewood you mean this post? What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more? 1) says what he thinks 2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example. geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense. I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him. Actually no you didn't. Answer this again please, since there is no way this is a "good observation", those are the only two options. So last game when I was scum, I filtered a bit of TW's other games to look for things that look different but really aren't. I noticed as Town he just kinda post what he thinks. It's a bit feelsy. But when the guy is already kinda being pushed, if you say a thing it kinda becomes thread sentiment and especially so when what you say already has the ring of truth/accuracy to it. Yes i understand this. What i don't understand is why you think the specific post Tumblewood made makes you think he is town, because based on how you view him -- remember the " His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything" -- you shouldn't be able to make a judgement call on him. Because I found a better way to meta him. Like, you're quoting me from a game where I'm trying to remember old meta and I'm not even sure if I'm remembering the right person. Like before generic, my last game was what, a year before maybe more? Like there's no reason to use something old that ime not even sure is correct when I have something up to date and has no risk of conflating players. Okay, can you explain this meta read then, since i can't find it. You're just saying "he says what he thinks" which is the same sentence than your previous meta was so how should i be differentiate this new metaing from you from the old one? Remember Generic 3? Remember Ruxxar who had a complete inability to not vomit each and every single little thought he had in the thread? It's kinda like that but way more subdued. It's like he has a thought, gives no shit about how it makes him look and just posts it. On sec let me get on comp to find an example.
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Skynx still has no scumreads.
Except for the scumread on geript....
On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.
Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.
Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town? I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.
...which actually is not a scumread after all.
On August 26 2017 02:41 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.
Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.
Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town? I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on. Ok so if geript is mafia and TW is town, its an easy push for geript to not lock himself out from. If geript is mafia and TW is mafia, geript just posted a totally unconvincing townread just so he, one vote, doesnt have to vote TW at the end of the day. There are many better things that he can do to end up with his vote on someone thats town. So this doesnt make sense to me. If geript is town then hes just playing the game as he sees it. From my perspective, the most likely situation is that geript is town. Why is the bolded section scummy Skynx? how does that advance mafia objectives? It's just a not well thought out entry imo. I see no reason to make the post he did from any alignment tbh.
How does anyone townread this guy ffs?
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I think you're going to be wrong on Koshi. If you insist, i will sheep you though, since it seems like noone is paying any attention to what i say. On things that i find very clear. Like the Skynx thing earlier is super fucking clear and somehow half of the game came to a conclusion that Skynx is town for doign scummy shit, and it baffles me a great deal. Artanis is still doing nothing at all and makes conclusions based on very dumb things that don't even mean anything. geript can give a read on Tumblewood based on one sentence that should go AGAINST his meta, but cannot give any read on ruxxar when ruxxar as town in his opinion "cannot help vomiting everything he thinks into the thread" (aka he should be at least suspicious of ruxxar since ruxxar doesn't show this "quality" in this game -- it's a very simple train of thought geript for some reason cannot make).
Maybe... maybe there is like 30% chance i am actually wrong on Koshi and you are right and he is mafia. I just dont think it's the right answer.
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Hey i actually get to use this:
On August 22 2017 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's kinda alarming that the only person who realized this is ritoky (idk, Conversion maybe too). Even the judges couldn't figure out this is not how townies should act.
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On August 26 2017 18:58 Skynx wrote:
rayn, you are acting with a super confirmation bias of one thought that I'm replicating "oh look at my bad case I must be town" from last game. I suggest you leave the tunnel because it's helping no one.
I suggest you start trying to understand what other people write. I won't explain this again, especially to you since i am not going to convince mafia for them being mafia. That's not what i did.
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On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing.
Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out....
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On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought.
Not really, no.
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I mean that's not really how mafia (players) works. Sure, you can come up with reasons why he lied to me too as town if you want to.
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On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this.
I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something.
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On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this. I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something. Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous.
See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process.
On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
It is very simple.
Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y.
No way.
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What Koshi said there was never ever never in a million years what Skynx was "trying to say".
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That was always my point, maybe i didn't explain it clearly enough.
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There are many problematic things in what geript says, or rather what he doesn't say.
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Yeah that's something i knew already. I was jsut thinking if it makes Koshi mafia that after calling HF "not annoying enough" every time he posts towards HF he feels super annoyed.
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I think i stil lwant to lynch Skynx. i kind of agree on what you say Artanis, but meh.. If we do not lynch Skynx i think regardless of his affiliation we will lose the game because if the dude is not mafia he lacks every single bit of any reading comprehension. It's like complete opposite from last game for example where he was actually able to provide coherent thoughts that were in line with each other. It's like someone took half of his brain out this game.
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Like Vivax just asked him to explain a simple thing. He quotes a post that has nothing to do what Vivax asks.
What gives?
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I like the Koshi's Calix banana case so here is what Skynx does:
Vivax: Skynx can you tell me why did you put a banana into your bag? I saw you doing it.
Skynx: Here is a picture of me eating an apple. What do you say now, Vivax, huh?
Every single time he defends himself he does this.
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On August 26 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think i stil lwant to lynch Skynx. i kind of agree on what you say Artanis, but meh.. If we do not lynch Skynx i think regardless of his affiliation we will lose the game because if the dude is not mafia he lacks every single bit of any reading comprehension. It's like complete opposite from last game for example where he was actually able to provide coherent thoughts that were in line with each other. It's like someone took half of his brain out this game. Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The last game i was town in Skynx started the game in a "similar" manner (you remember his "rayn is scum but i didnt read the thread" case). That case was based on his understanding of my meta from the previous game where i was mafia. I think it's quite safe to say Skynx' early game (at least as town) and opener is heavily based on meta (and feels for it). I believe there is a high chance Skynx is trying to imitate this as mafia here. Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
whaaaaat?
That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point. It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game. Then stop making stupid cases. ??????
See once again you can't understand simple things and jsut invent your own narratives that are loosely connected to some words, without any coherent thought behind them. I will stop talking to you for the rest of the game.
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On August 26 2017 20:53 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Vivax just asked him to explain a simple thing. He quotes a post that has nothing to do what Vivax asks.
What gives? He wants me to admit something which does not exist. That might make sense in your world i guess.
This is completely untrue.
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Like there are LITERALLY posts where YOU LITERALLY DID THAT.
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I am going to take a break since i unfortunately feel like this game is 8v4 right now.
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If Skynx is somehow town then geript will always be mafia. Also Koshi will always be town then. I heavily disagree with people who say geript and Koshi can be mafia together.
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On August 26 2017 20:04 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this. I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something. Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous. See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process. On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
It is very simple. Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y. No way. He just intentionally leaves out the second part of my post here "TW is not a +1 imo". Which completely invalidates the safe mafia play Koshi implies.
See here is another thing. At the time i intentionally asked Skynx who HE THINKS was the first one (and who is +1'ing).
On August 25 2017 05:44 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:41 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:37 Skynx wrote:
What i was thinking posting that is I wouldn't make that comment if i was mafia with Koshi, thats literally it. It doesn't matter, could you please answer me who came to the conclusion first? You can find your answer by reading the thread. I am unsure what you think, what i think doesn't matter if i am trying to get a read on you. You know aswell as i do that Vivax posted it first. I appreciate getting ganged up on guys keep it coming.
You're lying again. At the time Skynx thought Vivax was the one first to point out this. Then TW and LS.
Now he is saying he didn't actually think so after all. If he thought TW and LS were +1'ing Vivax, then the Koshi quote and his 180 after that makes no sense at all. And he DID think so at the time. Now he is saying something else, again...
Classic mafia play, change your story as you see it bet fit.
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On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote:
I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style.
I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time.
We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler +Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler +so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game. If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be? Mind meld? The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling. You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you. That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo
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On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
whaaaaat?
That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point. It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game.
Like i cannot see how anyone can actually think (1) and (2) are true at the same time.
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On August 26 2017 21:11 Holyflare wrote:
Artanis is feeling way off this game. Not only for the skynx read and how he spent ages defending that just to vote him but now he's scum reading geript AND koshi. Koshi read is straight rip of what I said but artanis made no mention of that and how can he scum read both of them??
Yeah i don't really know how he can scumread them both. Probably individually but still.. One of them is always going to be town imo. Why doesn't he care which one we lynch?
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On August 26 2017 21:16 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:1: On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:
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72 hours mafia. Town.
I don't think that's how you should hunt scum.
And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this.
What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game. If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be? Mind meld? The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling. You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you. That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo 2: On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
whaaaaat?
That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point. It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game. Like i cannot see how anyone can actually think (1) and (2) are true at the same time. You're just focusing on "That's what I'm trying to say"
Then what did you mean by it?
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I would really like to give you the correct answer here but sorry i can't, you have to say it yourself.
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Okay i am completely fine with that.
##unvote
##vote geript
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geript can form a read on Tumblewood for one post, geript can't form any read on Ruxxar. I don't wanna explain this again, go read what he says in his post where he implies he can meta ruxxar and when ruxxar acts completely different from geript's meta on him, he just doesn't even care to do anything with it.
Furthermore geript loves proving me wrong when he thinks i am lynching stupid. In this game he apparently thought i am lynching stupid (Skynx) since he doesn't care to comment on it in any way, or scumread me (what other conclusion there is?). But he doesn't care at all pointing me out onto right track, he doesn't care to comment on this in any single way.
Basically geript doesn't think i am mafia, doesn't agree with my case, and doesn't do anything with it. Makes sense if he is mafia.
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Vivax, he is saying he did not actually say "i think what Koshi says here is right", which is probably correct. In that light his thought process actually makes sense, regardless of how good or bad it is.
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On August 26 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
You said that it's what you mean (that they can be mafia) after saying that they are town if Koshi is mafia.
This really isn't about TW +1ing or not.
He has already explained this.
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Ima go see what sauna times are open.
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I will be here until the eod except for sauna from 2,5 to 1,5 hrs before the deadline.
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Damdred are you 100% certain Lighntingstrike is town?
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On August 26 2017 23:17 Damdred wrote:
Let me make sure and look at his filter again.
I think he is but I'll check.
Do you agree with my scum list rayn? Or am I wrong with how I am approaching someone?
Yes. I do. Except for Skynx.
On August 26 2017 23:20 Holyflare wrote:
Just ruxxar/artanis/skynx/geript/and the others
I would remove Skynx and add Oatsmaster. I don't know what he is trying to do with his LS push.
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And Vivax.. meh i don't feel like this is town!Vivax.
He pops in with comments when it's very convenient for mafia to post on those topics and never posts anything otherwise.
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On August 26 2017 23:38 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 23:17 Damdred wrote:
Let me make sure and look at his filter again.
I think he is but I'll check.
Do you agree with my scum list rayn? Or am I wrong with how I am approaching someone? Yes. I do. Except for Skynx. On August 26 2017 23:20 Holyflare wrote:
Just ruxxar/artanis/skynx/geript/and the others I would remove Skynx and add Oatsmaster. I don't know what he is trying to do with his LS push. Like, I did like how oats came into the thread and went after people. I thought it was town, I don't understand how he came to his four scum list. I thought all of them were town when he posted that. I still like the way he is pushing, but dislike how he's reading the game. I just dontg want to lynch him today.
I agree. I haven't played with Oats in a while but normally when Oats is town his thing is "go after rayn" instead of "go after people".
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Ruxxar can go to ignore pile.
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On August 27 2017 00:17 Holyflare wrote:
rayn why does skynx stop being mafia just for getting rid of your confusion?
because i don't really think anything else makes him mafia. And that's more townie than other people i have actually reason to scumread.
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Also the way he recently reacted to what was said when you and Artanis agreed with me.
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I really do not think Koshi is the right answer here since i am scumreading every one his targets except for Holyflare.
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On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn.
If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia.
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I could consolidate on Artanis. Apparently because geript cannot play it makes him town or something..
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On August 27 2017 03:46 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn. If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia. There is no one that really wants to lynch Rux, he has one vote and you arent doing SHIT to convince anyone to move to rux. So its wasted.
But i only care about finding mafia, not really convincing people lately.
Looks like you did a heel of a job trying to convince people to lynch Tumblewood your super top scumread. I don't even fucking know why you think he is mafia...
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On August 27 2017 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 02:57 Damdred wrote:On August 27 2017 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 00:54 Damdred wrote:On August 26 2017 20:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can lynch either Koshi or Geript today. Will sheep you on either, but people could be coming in at any moment now. I'm sure its probably been talked about. But this post by art super bugs me, he spends previous posts driving himself to vote for koshi and spend a none with geript, ends up settling on koshi with very little paranoia about geript being there. And as much grief as he gave koshi about res progression geript is pretty b.s. to and he never calls him out. Really bad i mean, its not unheard of for buses to happen and in my opinion, I wouldnt really look to whos voting the person I want to lynch as a reason to not lynch that person. I think one of my main points I didn't harp on enough was this. (Or I just realized it but let's pretend I'm a good player and just forgot) His geript read comes out of thin air and seems to be pandering to the two main factions in the thread. Koshi and Geript (hf and rayn respectively). His koshi read is somewhat developed but does not stray to much from developed read that hf has put forward. His geript read however is air, has no backing and both (if not all his reads). Seem like they are just playing towards fitting in with the thread at that moment in time. I think he went from voting skynx, to then saying he would vote for wither koshi or geript. Skynx was thread sentiment push by rayn, koshi is thread sentiment by hf. It makes little sense to me for a town artanis to do this. Not that Im disagreeing with you but I dont think today is the right day to lynch artanis.
Another masterpiece post.
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On August 27 2017 03:49 Damdred wrote:
Rayn would you switch to artanis with me I have a couple of posts in my filter towards the end why I think it's scum oriented play.
yes, or Actually Oats too.
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On August 27 2017 03:49 Damdred wrote:
Rayn would you switch to artanis with me I have a couple of posts in my filter towards the end why I think it's scum oriented play.
I think there is literally 0% chance there is 0 mafia on Koshi and i don't think it's a bus.
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I am talking about the geript/Artanis/ruxxar trio here.
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Oats we can't lynch LS so you're wasting your words.
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Holyflare:
Koshi (4) - geript, ruXxar, Artanis[Xp], Oatsmaster
geript (3) - Koshi, Skynx, raynpelikoneet
Do you think this is a double bus?
If not, do you think the people on Koshi are town?
It looks sketchy as fuck.
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On August 27 2017 04:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
The only votes that matter are the ones that are there at the end of the day
Yet we can't lynch anyone but Koshi in your opinion, we can't even lynch your top scumread Tumblewood....
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On August 27 2017 04:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 04:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 04:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
The only votes that matter are the ones that are there at the end of the day Yet we can't lynch anyone but Koshi in your opinion, we can't even lynch your top scumread Tumblewood.... What are you talking about man. I would rather lynch koshi than tumblewood today. Clearly.
And you think artanis is mafia but we shouldn't lynch him.
Coolio, do you think all of geript, artanis and ruxxar are town?
If not, how the hell is your first assumption "well i don't care about mafia people voting for someone i think can be mafia"? Everyone, literally everyone, as town, looks at the votes and if they see scummy people voting for someone they at least have a little voice in their head saying "this isn't right". Except for you apparently.
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On August 27 2017 04:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway, if my lynch goes through, there's definitely scum jumping on my absence. I don't think LS is scum, but I'm definitely not so sure on Damdred anymore. I feel like he's too smart to just not look at if the scum reason for my read flip makes any sense. Maybe I'm overreading that because I know my alignment but it feels like he's not even trying to understand it.
He is saying your reads go into a convenient place. I honestly agree with that. Especially when you had earlier said geript is your top scumread or "most likely to get your vote" when Skynx thing was on, when Skynx thing ended you suddenly paired up Koshi there and voted for him instead when neither of them had done anything inbetween.
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Decisions Tumblewood, i thin kyou ahve the hammer.
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On August 27 2017 04:29 Tumblewood wrote:
damn that's a lot of effort for a mafia last will. i dunno if either of these people are mafia
He's calling people who mafia can't lynch mafia, so idk, rest of it is just something.
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Well that was kinda expected.
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On August 27 2017 04:37 LightningStrike wrote:Well lex is pretty much town with that last post it kinda shitty though. Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
People off wagon and on artanis look terrible Says the person who hammered town!Koshi......
NO HE IS NOT THE POST DOESNT SAY ANYTHIGN!!!!
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afk until tomorrow night.
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On August 27 2017 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
I also had reasons to be on this wagon. All the artanis ones are born from confusion and what even
Stop this bullshit right now if you are town.
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On August 27 2017 04:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 04:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 04:37 LightningStrike wrote:Well lex is pretty much town with that last post it kinda shitty though. On August 27 2017 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
People off wagon and on artanis look terrible Says the person who hammered town!Koshi...... NO HE IS NOT THE POST DOESNT SAY ANYTHIGN!!!! So you think I actually counted all the votes 20 minutes before the end of day, made all those posts including the last will which took me a bit while knowing exactly I would stay alive at the current vote and banking on no one else switching? Come on Rayn. It's a very shitty reason for me to be town, but it's probably true.
I don't mean the votes, i mean the fact that mafia can never lynch Damdred or Koshi if you turn up mafia and the rest of your reads are "idk". And that's your last will.
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On August 27 2017 15:23 Tumblewood wrote:
conftown:
vivax
rayn
town:
ls
skynx
damdred
dunno man:
rux
art
scumlean:
geript
hf
oats
Best list just swap HF and Artanis.
Jailkeeper don't believe that ridiculous Artanis coinflip post. Just do not let me die, let's see if Holyflare dies.
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On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Last will:
Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too.
Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum.
ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go.
LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh.
Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia.
TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything.
Town:
Rayn
LS
ruXxar
Townish:
Skynx
LS
Vivax
HF
Null:
TW
Oats
Null-scummish
Geript
Scum
Damdred
Koshi
For all the people who are suckers for a last will post let's go through this last will post.
- Skynx is town (but for some reason not higher that LS and Ruxxar).
- LS and Ruxxar are town but he is not sure (yeah so why they are higher than Skynx? -- i mean Artanis MUST have really strong read on Skynx when he laid off him like that when Skynx was up for lynch)
- Vivax/HF "idk"
- TW/Oats "idk"
- Damdred and Koshi mafia, nice but whatever anyone says neither of Damdred and Koshi can never ever be lynched in case Artanis gets lynched and flips mafia. So there is no harm in calling them mafia if he is mafia. Also Damdred is the towniest person in the game, regardless of Artanis' read on him he should always townread Damdred, that's a fact. He knows Damdred well wnough to know that.
Basically, last will list post says nothing.
Then this:
On August 27 2017 04:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:First mislynch as town. Hope expectations for me will be lower next time. Gl guys
Does this look like a townie post? To me it doesn't, at all.
HF gets a downgrade for the ridiculous accusation on people who voted for his scumread (he has always scumread Artanis, there is no reason for him not to) when Koshi flipped town. I do not think he should make that post as town, i don't understand any of it.
Vivax being afk doesn't really mean anything.
Oats probably scum because didn't try to push Tumblewood, when people tried doing anything that was not Koshi he went into "you can't do that". Cant lynch ruxxar, cant lynch Artanis, cant lynch cant lynch..... I understand wanting to lynch your scumread over someone else, but not listening and just calling everyone out who want to do something else in a way he did is scummy as fuck, especially since Koshi flipped town. It was not like he went "no, you are wrong and we should lynch Koshi instead", it was more like "i will yell at you and i will not allow you to do this". I also do not like his play at all, i can see where he is coming from but he isn't really trying to interact with anyone, he just points out random stuff on random people and comes to scome conclusion. There is no direction, just a lot of posting. does anyone even remember why he scumreads Tumblewood? Because i don't. That's not townie play, Oats knows better, having a scumread is only 20%, the rest of it is getting other people to realize the read and believe it, and that's not something Oats is doing.
geript still mafia.
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EBWOP:
regardless of Damdred's vote on him he should always townread Damdred, that's a fact.
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Here is the last post timestamp (from Koshi filter) what Artanis scumreads Koshi for:
August 25 2017 21:09 MSK
Here is this post:
On August 26 2017 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey artanis, you happen to have any mafia reads? I think Geript is the most likely to be mafia atm, but I need to actually read the content I missed at work to give you any more than that.
At this point Artanis has already all the information on geript and Koshi (the post where he calls geript mafia happened after every post he quoted on Koshi scumread). He calls geript mafia.
When Skynx is not anymore a realistic lynch, and he needs to switch, he switches to Koshi instead of geript. But at this point he needs to think geript is actually more scummy than Koshi is, geript is also at this point a realistic lynch choice.
Nobody who is smart can never ever think Koshi and geript are both mafia. Artanis is smart. The only reasons why he should ever vote Koshi here instead of geript are:
1) He is mafia with geript
2) He doesn't care to read and/or figure out which one of these two is in fact mafia (this is backed off by the earlier, he calls both mafia but isn't interested at all in actually reading them). Basically he has thought this almost all game, yet doesn't care to do anything about this in the first 3/4 of the day.
Neither of these make any sense as town. If you think there are 2 scummy people who cannot possibly be mafia together, you should always have an urge to figure out which one of your reads is wrong. Especially when they are your top scumreads and both of them basically voteleaders (aside from Skynx at the time).
What artanis did is is not townie, ever. Never.
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This is the votecount at the time, after Artanis' switch:
On August 26 2017 23:55 AMG wrote:Vote Count - Tumblewood (1) -
Koshi, Oatsmaster
- Holyflare (0) -
Vivax
- Skynx (2) - Vivax, Holyflare
- Koshi (3) - geript, ruXxar, Artanis[Xp]
- geript (3) - Koshi, Skynx, raynpelikoneet
- Artanis[Xp] (0) -
Holyflare
Non-voters (3): LightningStrike, Damdred, Tumblewood
Currently, Koshi is set to be lynched.
Deadline is in (at Saturday, Aug 26 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).
But this doesn't tell the whole truth. It is very easy to predict that i am going to vote for geript because i have been telling you, HF, that i don't really think Koshi is mafia. Artanis can very easily predict that, hell everyone should be able to predict that since i have made this post already:
On August 26 2017 20:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am going to take a break since i unfortunately feel like this game is 8v4 right now.
Basically Artanis says he's gonna sheep me on either of them, and does the opposite he should 100% know i will do.
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Sorry this is the votecount:
On August 26 2017 23:55 AMG wrote:Vote Count - Tumblewood (1) -
Koshi, Oatsmaster
- Holyflare (0) -
Vivax
- Skynx (3) - Vivax, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare
- Koshi (3) - geript, ruXxar, Artanis[Xp]
- geript (2) - Koshi, Skynx
- Artanis[Xp] (0) -
Holyflare
Non-voters (3): LightningStrike, Damdred, Tumblewood
Currently, Koshi is set to be lynched.
Deadline is in (at Saturday, Aug 26 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).
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Vivax you need to explain the following thing:
This is how our conversation went:
On August 26 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 21:29 Skynx wrote:
I see how i constructed it horribly actually.
TW +1'ing was not true so what Koshi implied wasn't true so i said that's what i mean trying to imply the opposite was true as his basis was wrong. Koshi didn't ask whether TW +1d, he asked why ppl asking you to check his town games can't be mafia. This isn't about TW +1ing. You said that it's what you mean (that they can be mafia) after saying that they are town if Koshi is mafia. This really isn't about TW +1ing or not.
On August 26 2017 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
You said that it's what you mean (that they can be mafia) after saying that they are town if Koshi is mafia.
This really isn't about TW +1ing or not. He has already explained this.
On August 26 2017 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, he is saying he did not actually say "i think what Koshi says here is right", which is probably correct. In that light his thought process actually makes sense, regardless of how good or bad it is.
After this you just left the thread without ever returning.
This is what you're saying today:
On August 27 2017 08:32 Vivax wrote:
You lynched Koshi? Gratz.
I was expecting skynx to die 100 % when I posted the tomb stone. Instead you lynched the guy with the huge D1 filter for some bad reasons I kept pointing out.
No, there is no way you expected Skynx to get lynched when you left the thread.
I think you can be mafia too. Maybe i am wrong on Oats.
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On August 26 2017 21:01 Vivax wrote:
I'd settle for killing Ruxxar who sits in the sidelines occasionally sniping vulnerable posts as well and other reasons mentioned earlier. I think he's also mafia cause he doesn't sound as pants on head while being spammy as fuck like the last game I was in with him.
Also Oats, but his bad tunnel on me might have clouded my judgement.
Then Artanis for pretending to agree with the whole skynx issue then immediately starting to post a case on Koshi and laughing at skynx while doing it.
Then HF for a bit of paranoia and cause he's also after Koshi.
That should also be enough reads for skynx. The rest of the game is pretty much in at the very least a weak town pile. I still don't see how anything makes Koshi mafia besides for wanting to kill afkers at some point, and jokish posts where he claims scum.
"I thought Skynx was 100% getting lynched"...
Yeahhhhh right you did.
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scum pile:
Artanis
Vivax
maybe scum pile:
geript
Oatsmaster
Ignore pile:
Ruxxar
Just a pile:
Holyflare
town pile:
everyone else
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But always lynch Artanis first. Then everyone in the wagon is 98,2% town.
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I think Artanis did the classic Titanic-Vivax thing:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tFZrhQa.jpg)
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I don't believe you. Sure it is possible but i do not believe you.
During the time you had this "thought" you did:
On August 26 2017 00:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I actually really hate that rayn focussed solely on my skynx read and didnt mention the point hf brought up regarding him saying the same thing to skynx last game to rels. Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad. He scumreads me anyway but doesnt mention it at all.
Rescinding rayn townread.
Skynx townread then rayn not so town anymore.
Some arguing with Holyflare.
Ruxxar town read.
Some random things on Oats.
Scumread on geript. (note that all the stuff on Koshi has happened at this point).
Random things on Vivax.
More defending on Skynx.
Arguing with Holyflare (no conclusions).
Then, the read on Skynx.
On August 26 2017 19:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this. I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something. Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous. See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process. On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
It is very simple. Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y. No way. I am starting to come around to this. Need to read Skynx' filter.
Now before the actual scumread on Skynx (or where you say you need to read his filter, there is over 19 hours, and about 50% of your filter. You literally didn't do anything proactive during that time, you werent focused on Skynx because you didn't have a scumread on Skynx. Apparently your scumreads on geript and Koshi are from that time, yet you didn't do ANYTHING to get those reads out into the thread, and did basically EVERYTHING that was not getting those reads out into the thread.
Only when it started mattering, aka we are lynching one of those two people, you started caring, and even then you made a very irrational choice at that time.
So no, i don't believe your explanation.
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What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time.
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Why did you even need the feel to defend yourself when nobody was even close to voting for you?
There is absolutely no reason to, especially since there were three people up for lynch at that point, all of them you hadn't apparently read properly.
I don't believe you feel the need to defend yourself at this point as town instead of finding who is mafia amongst them three. And you sure had time, i don't like where you used your time when you had it.
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On August 28 2017 01:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time. I also wasn't and still am not sure on my Geript scumread.
See here is the kicker.
You knew, that i heavily think geript is mafia. You promised to sheep me on what i want to do. If you have read any of my posts you knew that i don't actually think Koshi is mafia. There are many problems:
1) what i just said, you hadn't read any of those people
2) when you got out of Skynx being mafia, you chose to filter Koshi, decide he is mafia, and vote + afk (i dont care about the reasons but that's what you did).
You are still not sure if geript is mafia so you jsut randomly took one of those people, filtered him, and called him mafia. I am fucking terrible at explaining this but that's not what townies do, i would be okay if you just sheeped me on geript or even read geript instead of Koshi (as he was your top scumread at the time).
Basically you are ranking people above or below others while having absolutely no idea what they have posted, when you sheep, you dont sheep the people you said you would, and i think that makes you mafia.
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On August 28 2017 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I did not know that. I knew Koshi talked a lot about Geript being scum for a while, but I did not remember you going after Geript much at that moment in time. I filtered Koshi because he seemed the most scummy to me during my catchup and HF was talking a lot about him.
I will call this a lie.
I could not sheep you because you were voting Skynx whom I did not believe was mafia at that time, and that was the focus I was getting from you. I did not know who else you would vote.
I will call this a lie too and i have already explained it. And well, at that time you were WITH 100% CERTAINTY IN THE THREAD. There is absolutely no way after my post where i say "i believe this game is 8v4" you do not connect the dots that i think Skynx is not in fact mafia. No way.
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On August 26 2017 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:no geript is scum. look at his ruxxar read.
On August 26 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx, Artanis, geript.
Final answer.
On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.
Like i really don't believe you saw the last post but not the one's above. They are ~10mins apart and you were in the thread at the time. The post are NEXT TO EACH OTHER in the thread and you are telling me you saw that i claimed a parity cop but you didn't know i scumread geript....
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On August 28 2017 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats probably scum because didn't try to push Tumblewood, when people tried doing anything that was not Koshi he went into "you can't do that". Cant lynch ruxxar, cant lynch Artanis, cant lynch cant lynch..... I understand wanting to lynch your scumread over someone else, but not listening and just calling everyone out who want to do something else in a way he did is scummy as fuck, especially since Koshi flipped town. It was not like he went "no, you are wrong and we should lynch Koshi instead", it was more like "i will yell at you and i will not allow you to do this". I also do not like his play at all, i can see where he is coming from but he isn't really trying to interact with anyone, he just points out random stuff on random people and comes to scome conclusion. There is no direction, just a lot of posting. does anyone even remember why he scumreads Tumblewood? Because i don't. That's not townie play, Oats knows better, having a scumread is only 20%, the rest of it is getting other people to realize the read and believe it, and that's not something Oats is doing.
geript still mafia. Dude it wasnt "you cant lynch xxx", It was, you cant vote for xxx as one vote and then fuck off without doing anything to convince people that your choice was the right one. Which is exactly what you did with ruxxar.
Where did i "fuck off"??????????????
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Well that doesn't change my opinion on you.
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On August 28 2017 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk. On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/
I think this might be TMI since i didn't know geript was feeling shitty and stuff before he 100% afk'd, which is not what we are talking about here.
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On August 28 2017 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn. If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia. Er here? Where you did nothing? Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn. If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia. There is no one that really wants to lynch Rux, he has one vote and you arent doing SHIT to convince anyone to move to rux. So its wasted. But i only care about finding mafia, not really convincing people lately. Looks like you did a heel of a job trying to convince people to lynch Tumblewood your super top scumread. I don't even fucking know why you think he is mafia...
That's a bad narrative Oats. You called me out of "afking" and telling basically we cant lynch ruxxar 7 minutes after i had placed my vote. If i was writing a case you cannot even know if i am doing that or not, you werent giving me a chance in your mind. That's what i am talking about. What happened doesnt matter.
The fact is i voted for ruxxar and you told people not to, because rayn doesnt even have a case even before you have given me a chance to write one. That's what i am talking about, about your mindset, and that's how i see it.
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On August 28 2017 01:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2017 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk. On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/ I think this might be TMI since i didn't know geript was feeling shitty and stuff before he 100% afk'd, which is not what we are talking about here. Dude.. Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 01:14 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript can form a read on Tumblewood for one post, geript can't form any read on Ruxxar. I don't wanna explain this again, go read what he says in his post where he implies he can meta ruxxar and when ruxxar acts completely different from geript's meta on him, he just doesn't even care to do anything with it.
Furthermore geript loves proving me wrong when he thinks i am lynching stupid. In this game he apparently thought i am lynching stupid (Skynx) since he doesn't care to comment on it in any way, or scumread me (what other conclusion there is?). But he doesn't care at all pointing me out onto right track, he doesn't care to comment on this in any single way.
Basically geript doesn't think i am mafia, doesn't agree with my case, and doesn't do anything with it. Makes sense if he is mafia. I'm feeling a little better today, but still not great so I'm going to answer this. I am depressed. I've only had job offers from shit ends places. I haven't had a job for 4 months now and had to sell of a major part of my EDh deck. Shipping the mtg cards cost the last cash I had and I'm literally broke. Like I. Crying and don't want to get out of bed right now just writing this. You are taking things for being mafia which have no relation to the game. I'm going to grab a bite and I'll be back.
Yeah and the geript post was after you already had voted for Koshi.
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geript post: August 26 2017 19:14 MSK
Artanis Koshi vote: August 26 2017 14:48 MSK
"I didn't read geript at the time i voted for Koshi because i knew he was feeling shitty and was afk"
yeah no.
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Like if you're town you have supermassively fucked up almost everything you are now saying so this conversation can end. But i am never going to vote for anyone except for you tomorrow.
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On August 28 2017 01:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript post: August 26 2017 19:14 MSK
Artanis Koshi vote: August 26 2017 14:48 MSK
"I didn't read geript at the time i voted for Koshi because i knew he was feeling shitty and was afk"
yeah no. No, that wasn't the reason I didn't vote for Geript. I voted for Koshi because I read his filter. Stop twisting my words.
On August 28 2017 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[b][red]And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk.[b][red] On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/
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On August 28 2017 01:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript post: August 26 2017 19:14 MSK
Artanis Koshi vote: August 26 2017 14:48 MSK
"I didn't read geript at the time i voted for Koshi because i knew he was feeling shitty and was afk"
yeah no. No, that wasn't the reason I didn't vote for Geript. I voted for Koshi because I read his filter. Stop twisting my words.
On August 28 2017 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk. On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/
Now i am done with this.
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The point is you never even tried. You even claimed he is your top scumread and now you claim you basically have not read anything he wrote...................................
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I am gonna say one more thing on this, you don't need to answer, and i hope, if you are town Artanis, that you up your play. It most likely wont save you D2 but still.
I think your story doesn't add up. There are many points where what you do make absolutely no sense to me from the perspective where i am thinking what you would think in a situation based on what you have posted before. I never blame anyone for not being able to play at certain times, but I think you are well aware of the situation at times you post and given that this assumption is true (which your posts indicate) i think you are making decisions that are highly questinable, in a sense that you:
1) certainly figure out the game is at X state (who are possible lynches, and all that jazz)
2) but then, when you do stuff, you do something completely irrelevant to what's important to the game, or at least you're now trying to explain it in a way
3) i don't think you would focus on things you do if you were town, while your explanations "match up" with your actions, i dont think they are townie actions if the explanation is in fact true
I just can't believe you would be so nonchalant about the top 3 lynches (while doing other stuff) as town while clearly realizing those three are town's top lynches. Expecially when you DONT give any other scumreads, and when you DO read at least some of them mafia.
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Can Holyflare or Damdred get in here in the next hour please?
I gotta leave to work in 1.5 hrs and i would liek to talk to you guys.
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On August 28 2017 02:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly I see what you talking about but do you think Lex could come up with a last will as scum so quickly? Vivax you know better than afking at deadline...... You should of been pushing Skynx at deadline....
Yeah writing a lst weill that says absolutely nothing is very hard to do in 2 minutes.
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I like this mentality of "wow a dude made a post he must be town".
Why do i even play these games?
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On August 28 2017 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
Whoever it was that said about your damdred read is also spot on.
That would be me.
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On August 28 2017 02:58 Holyflare wrote:
If you guys don't lynch artanis I will cry
I will back up cry.
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I knew it lol. He was so red or blue.
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On August 28 2017 04:58 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn why did you fake claim?
It was the only way to make sure we both live D2.
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But we really have to lynch mafia now.
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On August 28 2017 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
what?
you effectively signed my death sentence though
I needed a medic dodge on me because i cant jail myself.
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Can we now please figure out the game?
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This is gonna be a shitty week, i am working 2200-0630 my time. Basically i can never be around at the deadline. I'll find a couple more mafia when i get off work in the morning.
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On August 28 2017 06:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 06:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I found rayn's reasoning for fake claiming cop kinda bullshit tbh but don't think it makes him scum. His play seems townie enough. I think I found X. How can you say it's bull shit but then not think he's scum?????????
Idk Damdred is an expert on this.
Maybe he can tell.
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I think there is either 1 or 2 mafia between Ruxxar and Oatsmaster. Vivax went quite hard on them during night.
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Oatsmaster:
Reads Tumblewood mafia for the same post geript reads Tumblewood town for. Reads geript town because geript has a townread on Tumblewood (for a scummy post)??!?!?!? This doesn't make any sense.
Lightningstrike is mafia for:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
none of this actually makes anyone mafia.
Scumreads Vivax because Vivax trusts townie seal (on a dude he thinks is town). That's what mafia does? Calls someone town for that? Well, Oats has now solved the game. GG! Oh wait...
On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
If damdred is mafia, he has ulterior motives for town reading you so we cant trust him. You should know this.
This is an interesting post. geript is super town for townreading Tumblewood for garbage reasons but we can't tell Damdred's alignment when (if) he townreads LS at this point of the game. Very likely a mafia post.
Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.
Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).
100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi
Very good, now he has even more scumreads than enough.
Add Artanis as a scumread too.
On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least. No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit.
Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.
Oats never ever wants to convince anybody to vote for Tumblewood, yet he asks everyone else to convince people when someone calls someone else mafia. That is very likely mafia attitude. Seriously, if you don't believe me on this go read his filter.
On August 27 2017 03:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn. If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia. There is no one that really wants to lynch Rux, he has one vote and you arent doing SHIT to convince anyone to move to rux. So its wasted. But i only care about finding mafia, not really convincing people lately. Looks like you did a heel of a job trying to convince people to lynch Tumblewood your super top scumread. I don't even fucking know why you think he is mafia... He hasnt posted anything useful the entire game. Also like ruxxar, no one thinks he really needs to die day 1 so Im not gonna push him NOW. You see, the problem is that its 36 minutes to the lynch, so finding mafia doesnt really help when you cant actually get enough people to lynch them.
This is what i was talking about earlier. "We can only lynch Koshi because no time left".
That's an attitude mafia people have.
On August 27 2017 04:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
best mislynch at least.
TW/LS/VIivax
Artanis scumread has magically disappeared.
On August 27 2017 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis joins the town circle.
His posting lately is top tier. Why so scummy.
AND WHAT THE FUCK? The dude jsut came into the same conclusion than you did and you call him scum now when you alread yhave a scumlist of three people?
Why arent these two people fucking scumreading each other?
I would always be scumreading someone who says this kinda shit to me.
Oats just jumps from one place to another place. Very likely mafia.
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Earlier i started reading Ruxxar's filter but i noticed i jsut wrote "terrible" after basically every post so someone else can do that.
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On August 28 2017 13:00 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 10:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 28 2017 07:03 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis is town 100%.
His observation on tumblewood does not come from mafia mindset.
By extension, tumblewood is also town. What observation was that? Also whos mafia? Thats not rayn. 1) this post is very likely to come from town: Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 02:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Reading through from where I left off I am also pretty sure TW is town. A little bit for this post: On August 26 2017 03:36 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi wow i am impressed you basically managed to name my top 4 town in order Exuding a lot of confidence. He has no problem going in against the flow of the thread, potentially making himself a focal point for little gain. Also his filter is already longer than his last scumgame where he was lynched D4, and as long as the scumgame before that where he was lynched D3. Also a little bit due to the list post he made earlier with all his notes. From what I can tell he's never done that before and I just don't think it's something you start doing as mafia rather than as town. Also also dinner ready! The post he's quoting from TW is also very town. 2) My Poe is at something like Rayn, HF, Damdred.
I am sorry but i have to say this, if you believe this you are either mafia or the worst fucking player on this planet.
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Damdred i know you know LS' alignment by now so could you tell that so i don't have to bother.
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There is also this interesting thing.
Oatsmaster has called literally every single player in the game mafia, except for Ruxxar's scumreads, and Ruxxar doesn't have any problem with it.
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The sad part is i cannot call ruxxar mafia because he is most likely not.
Although if he is in this game, i will probably lynch him in every game that will ever come after this one.
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On August 26 2017 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Skynx is somehow town then geript will always be mafia. Also Koshi will always be town then. I heavily disagree with people who say geript and Koshi can be mafia together.
why?[/QUOTE]
I am going 100% back to this but backwards. And forwards. I do not think Skynx does what he did as mafia when he was up for lynch. It jsut doesn't make any sense.
Artanis and Oats too.
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On August 28 2017 13:59 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 13:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this interesting thing.
Oatsmaster has called literally every single player in the game mafia, except for Ruxxar's scumreads, and Ruxxar doesn't have any problem with it. You're getting sloppy Rayn. You quoted this post like 2 seconds ago. Vivax and koshi were both my scum reads. Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi
You just "PoE'd" Damdred/rayn/HF who are the only three people Oats hasn't called mafia this game.
Now go do whatever you want to, you are back into ignore pile.
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HF i told you we will lose this game if we don't work together D1.
See these people?
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I have 2% confidence Onegu will ever even seriously play this game.
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Holyflare and Damdred, when you have a chance could you guys explain to Skynx what happened there, please. Just do it before LYLO and i can just 100% ignore this one dude. I mean this guy cannot understand that if i am mafia a JK should always CC.
LS would have done it.
Oats would have done it.
Ruxxar knows he is not JK.
Skynx wouldn't have done what he did on D1 if he is JK (he would have cared more about being lynched).
Artanis would have claimed EoD.
HF would have 100% CC'd me (because he knows how to play this game).
Damdred will 100% CC me (because he knows how to play this game).
Tumblewood is not JK because he believes my claim.
So mafia can put their bets on Onegu cc'ing me. Or if he doesn't, wow there is noone else in the game.
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On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least. No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit.
Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.
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On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote:
A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game.
It is good you can't even keep ypur story straight for a sentence.
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On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least. No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit. Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here. Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted.
No, i want you to quote those posts yourself so you can't say "that's not what i meant".
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On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +
Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.
Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).
100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia.
Oh this is interesting, because i am pretty sure i accidently wrote "scumread" instead of "townread" and this is the post in question:
On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi
But please tell me where you did scumread Ruxxar for a post at that time?
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On August 28 2017 14:20 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 14:16 ruXxar wrote:
The fact that neither Rayn or HF got shot tonight confirms that there is guaranteed scum between them.
We 100% hit scum if we lynch into Rayn/HF. Or Mafia went for a medic dodge shot most likely.
And you're calling my reasoning bullshit.
Again, why do i even join these games?
I wish i could even call these people mafia....
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On August 28 2017 15:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.
Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).
100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia. Oh this is interesting, because i am pretty sure i accidently wrote "scumread" instead of "townread" and this is the post in question: Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi But please tell me where you did scumread Ruxxar for a post at that time?
On August 28 2017 15:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least. No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit. Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here. Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted. No, i want you to quote those posts yourself so you can't say "that's not what i meant".
You know what's more funny in this Oats?
You now need to explai nwhy you thought ruxxar is town and mafia for the same posts.
Waiting for you to answer. 
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Or you could always try claiming JK. You will probably have 2 townies on your side, just saying.
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btw Koshi, you totally deserved to be lynched there despite having most likely the best reads in the game. Just saying.
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On August 29 2017 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 15:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2017 15:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.
Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).
100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia. Oh this is interesting, because i am pretty sure i accidently wrote "scumread" instead of "townread" and this is the post in question: On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi But please tell me where you did scumread Ruxxar for a post at that time? On August 28 2017 15:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least. No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit. Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here. Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted. No, i want you to quote those posts yourself so you can't say "that's not what i meant". You know what's more funny in this Oats? You now need to explai nwhy you thought ruxxar is town and mafia for the same posts. Waiting for you to answer.
On August 29 2017 00:02 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis joins the town circle.
His posting lately is top tier. Why so scummy.
This post happened a day after you said you scumread him for a post. Try again.
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Holy shit Tumblewood can actually be mafia.
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On August 29 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2017 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 28 2017 15:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2017 15:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.
Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).
100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia. Oh this is interesting, because i am pretty sure i accidently wrote "scumread" instead of "townread" and this is the post in question: On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi But please tell me where you did scumread Ruxxar for a post at that time? On August 28 2017 15:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least. No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit. Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here. Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted. No, i want you to quote those posts yourself so you can't say "that's not what i meant". You know what's more funny in this Oats? You now need to explai nwhy you thought ruxxar is town and mafia for the same posts. Waiting for you to answer. On August 29 2017 00:02 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis joins the town circle.
His posting lately is top tier. Why so scummy. This post happened a day after you said you scumread him for a post. Try again. When did I say that I scumread him for a post on day 1?
This is what i wrote:
Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.
Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).
100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
Very good, now he has even more scumreads than enough.
Add Artanis as a scumread too.
You answered me to this particular scumread. This happened on D1. I mean you can't be stupid enough you cannot realize the post on you is in timewise manner??? I even quoted you in a post based on that comment.
Or are you saying you just answer with some random things when someone writes something that doesn't even add up?
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Anyways, no need to answer, maybe you jsut are that stupid.
But you still havent shown the posts you townread ruxxar for.
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On August 29 2017 02:59 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 02:32 Tumblewood wrote:
i'm not 100% certain that rayn is scum but why lynch him today? jk can fish for a save (to get us a mislynch, which is huge) and then claim tomorrow, or even d4, or accidentally get nk'd anyway. unless you really think art is town or something if the first sentence is what ticks you off, rayn, it was supposed to say "that rayn is town". idk why i wrote scum there.
Okay it makes more sense, because other way around it doesn't make any sense.
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Also JK does not claim a day aftertoday, you always lynch any claim after today. 100%.
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Because if i am mafia right now we are lynching town!Artanis, and that's a fact, because i would never ever try to lynch my scumbuddy on D1 when i could have just happily agree with Holyflare or whoever on Koshi.
If anyone is going to CC me it's going to happen now because anything else is retarded. I am happy to trade myself for 2 mafia though.
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On August 29 2017 03:07 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2017 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2017 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 28 2017 15:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2017 15:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.
Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).
100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia. Oh this is interesting, because i am pretty sure i accidently wrote "scumread" instead of "townread" and this is the post in question: On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi But please tell me where you did scumread Ruxxar for a post at that time? On August 28 2017 15:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
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No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit. Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here. Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted. No, i want you to quote those posts yourself so you can't say "that's not what i meant". You know what's more funny in this Oats? You now need to explai nwhy you thought ruxxar is town and mafia for the same posts. Waiting for you to answer. On August 29 2017 00:02 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis joins the town circle.
His posting lately is top tier. Why so scummy. This post happened a day after you said you scumread him for a post. Try again. When did I say that I scumread him for a post on day 1? This is what i wrote: Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.
Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).
100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
Very good, now he has even more scumreads than enough.
Add Artanis as a scumread too.
You answered me to this particular scumread. This happened on D1. I mean you can't be stupid enough you cannot realize the post on you is in timewise manner??? I even quoted you in a post based on that comment. Or are you saying you just answer with some random things when someone writes something that doesn't even add up? So you assumed something and now you look like an ass trying to say that I don't even know what I posted. Good job man.
No, actually you look like an ass.
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On August 29 2017 03:15 Holyflare wrote:
Lol i reckon artanis is gonna wait till just deadline tomorrow to post a read list in hopes for shenanigans
Probably yes. You should read Oatsmaster next.
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The dude just calls some random people mafia.
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Also Skynx when he was going to maybe get lynched i don't think would act like that as mafia. He basically just went "fuck you guys are stupid" instead of saying where we were interpreting things wrong when he kindish of knew the answer. I don't think mafia acts like that, i think as mafia he would have taken his time to explain where we are wrong to clear himself up since he thought we were misrepresenting him.
Ruxxar looks like 123% mafia but every single time he does something that is completely and absolutely retarded he is town, so he is probably town. If he ends up being mafia this game i will always policy lynch him though forever on D1 because there is never going to be a game where he is town (as in helping the town), he will always be +1 mafia as you can't even tell his alignment anymore.
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Lightningstrike is town too, and so is Damdred so idk, if you're not mafia HF then i don't think there are much questions on who is.
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I am not really interested in posting anything today, i will rather do other stuff.
I mean like we have here 2 people who think we should lynch an uncc'd jailkeeper and one dude who has only 2 scumreads but only "probably" is wrong about one of his townreads... In a perfect game there is your mafia, unfortunately those three are almost definitely all town. Then there is HF, Damdred and Tumblewood who are on the same page with me, and then there is mafia. So i don't really have anything to post atm.
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On August 30 2017 00:33 Tumblewood wrote:
i think the mafia team is pretty likely art/onegu/oats, or if not maybe art/onegu/hf. i'd be fine with lynching art or onegu today, the excuse-to-content ratio in the last 72 hours is high with both of them. but art may be slightly preferable because if we're wrong we learn a lot more about d1
The thing with Holyflare is that while he is definitely capable of doing everything he has in this game (especially Koshi push) as mafia, i think his reaction to the close vote doesn't come from mafia in case Artanis is mafia. If Artanis somehow flips town then yes, i could see there being a small possibility of him being mafia. The problem is his push on Koshi is basically not alignment indicative since Koshi had it coming. Holyflare always pushes stuff like that on people who "should play better" (especially when they call him mafia) and this case that was true that Koshi should have approached the game differently. Basiacally, even if Koshi's reads are right i don't have a ny clue why he even thought the people the wrote as scum are mafia in his mind....
Also i think there is something in the way how HF pushes his reads... or well.. how he comes to the conclusions on those reads that is quite different from what i remember his scumgames being.
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I am leaving for work so i am just gonna say this since i can't guarantee being here before the deadline anymore. You always lynch whoever counter-claims me. There is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why i did what i did. I am not going to explain that to dumbasses especially when i dont have time. The only way that was not beneficial to the town is if there is an absolutely idiotic parity cop or if Holyflare is mafia. Most of which are likely untrue. It's not my fault Vivax cannot play blue without looking like he is red (aka if you are scum it's super easy to know if Vivax is blue).
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I basically guaranteed me and HF live past N1, one of us lives past N2, and mafia wastes shots on someone who is NOT a parity cop (aka they get at least one check), except that Vivax probably screamed blue for mafia.
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That's why there are good players and you're not one.
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On August 30 2017 03:18 Skynx wrote:
You're entitled to have your opinion at least we have that.
Yeah you too, although wanting to lynch an uncc'd power role and at the same time thinking Artanis can be mafia and not screaming for a counter-claim is one of the most retarded things i have ever heard in a mafia game. It goes close to people not lynching a dude who legit scumslips on a video and people dont believe it even when his scumbuddy points it out...
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On August 30 2017 03:25 Skynx wrote:
Whatever, why don't you tell us who to lynch tomorrow?
I think i have been quite clear who i think is mafia.
Onegu.
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I have an assumption here, and i would like you to discuss this with me Damdred.
My assumption (or rather observation) is from the games i have played that LS has a really hard time lying )and/or making up stuff).
On August 28 2017 06:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I found rayn's reasoning for fake claiming cop kinda bullshit tbh but don't think it makes him scum. His play seems townie enough.
This post is super weird, it's like he wants to call me mafia but doesn't after all. That would be in my opinion a "LS-reasonable approach" as mafia as Skynx and Ruxxar are already calling me mafia.
Second thing is this:
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike
I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff.
On August 28 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote:
We lynching me instead of lex k thanx bye.
On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote:Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting ##Unvote
On August 29 2017 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
ruxxar forcing a narrative that been disproven is so bad idk if he just being dumb here or mafia >.<
On August 29 2017 00:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh if you guys wanted to know where I came up with the idea of the trap I was eating dinner last night and thought it would be a good idea to see if mafia would try to lynch me in a attempt to save Lex if Lex was mafia but everyone got to confused >.<
This sounds like a super bad lie. I have been reading this over and over again and i am not sure LS is telling the whole truth here. I don't know what's wrong here but this sounds so wrong to my ear. I mean like he said something really dumb, HF calls him out and then he turns it into a reaction test?? It just sounds so wrong tbh.
On August 29 2017 11:27 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 10:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2017 10:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2017 10:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Where is everyone? Hi LS What do you think about HF? Actually what do you think about me? I might have to sheep Damdred's read on HF and caall him town because I would think with rayn being jail keeper he probably would of jailed HF and someone died unless HF wasn't carrying the kp. You I had you town earlier I know rayn was calling you scum for your EoD stuff. I still kinda confident on my read on you. Mafia shot is carried by someone? Whos the other 2 mafia then? Yes mafia shot is carried by someone it's in the op. ruxxar and if I wrong on any of my town reads would be geript because his play wasn't good but him replacing out like that made me feel like he just was a super depressed town.
This one, i don't even know what this one means. Does LS' brain work like this?
"There is 3 mafia in the game - i have townreads on everyone except for Artanis and ruxxar so MAYBE i am wrong in one of my townreads"....???? I mean like do you -- Damdred -- think he actually thinks like that as town? Remember that he has basically just called Ruxxar "possibly too dumb to be scum" so i don't really know if that should be even a scumread in his mind.
Is this how LS reacts to being called mafia when he is town?
On August 26 2017 05:03 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
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In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit. On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here? He calling me mafia for those points.
I think this is more likely:
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike
I mean like Oats was pushing him like half of D1 yet he remained super calm and i got a feeling he was in "you won't lynch me anyways"-kind-of-mindstate, which doesn't feel natural at all for him.
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On August 29 2017 03:51 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
Oats give me your mafia list and a sentence on why they're mafia Hf cause he's not dead Tw cause he's done nothing and is totally uninterested in who is mafiaArt cause he's martyring Other people who I'm waffly about Rux is fixated on rayns claim nd can be using that to create content Geript/onegu done nothing Skynx literally cannot remember what he has done.
I also find this very weird. Oats reads TW mafia because he hasn't done anything, but doesn't read LS mafia when LS doesn't really even have any scumreads....
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ruxxar forcing a narrative that been disproven is so bad idk if he just being dumb here or mafia >.<
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You totally didn't figure out he has to be scum in that post.
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On August 30 2017 20:39 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2017 13:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You totally didn't figure out he has to be scum in that post. It's called I been thinking about him later on and I concluded he probably was mafia...................
No LS. You literally said you thought he id either bad town ot mafia and later on said he had to be mafia because that cannot come from town. Thats not thinking about him later...
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On August 30 2017 15:51 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2017 13:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2017 03:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2017 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
Oats give me your mafia list and a sentence on why they're mafia Hf cause he's not dead Tw cause he's done nothing and is totally uninterested in who is mafiaArt cause he's martyring Other people who I'm waffly about Rux is fixated on rayns claim nd can be using that to create content Geript/onegu done nothing Skynx literally cannot remember what he has done. I also find this very weird. Oats reads TW mafia because he hasn't done anything, but doesn't read LS mafia when LS doesn't really even have any scumreads.... That is true, however he did do that self vote shit which I think is townie. So hes not on that list.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Why is LS self vote shit townie but Ruxxar's isn't?
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I fucking hate that this game has gone so shit for so little things..
Like why couldn't Artanis just vote for geript on D1 instead of Koshi?
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And Onegu replaced in just to afk.. Fucking bullshit just lynch the slot always and don't care what happens.
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HF you around soon? I have 5 hours now. Let's try to do this.
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Who is your 2nd and 3rd mafia now?
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On August 29 2017 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
geript/onegu and one of ruxxar/you/skynx imo
probably not skynx Why geript? His slot hasn't done anything since he replaced out
On August 29 2017 01:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2017 00:52 Holyflare wrote:On August 29 2017 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 29 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
geript/onegu and one of ruxxar/you/skynx imo
probably not skynx Why geript? His slot hasn't done anything since he replaced out precisely? Yeah but there are other people who haven't done anything since day 1 either. Why not them?
Like i am pretty sure this makes Oats mafia. This is Oats' mindset. "Why not other people who haven't done anything".
But he himself calls Tumblewood mafia, geript "i am not sure" and LS town. For these three people geript has certainly done the least, all he has done is call Oats' top scumread town, and call D1 lynch town mafia. LS cannot even produce 3 scumreads and even from the two one of them is flimsy (ruxxar -- and this is again someone who Oats calls mafia). Tumblewood has definitely done more than either of these people. The only scumread he had that was not based on "doing nothing" was Koshi and even then we had a counter-wagon of "doing nothing" person in Artanis on D1.
Basically, for this narrow minded logic (TW is mafia for "doing nothing") i don't think there is a way where Oats doesn't think geript slot and LS are mafia too as town. Like it's even flipped upside down since Tumblewood definitely has done the most from these three people.
I also don't believe Oats doesn't care about geript calling Tumblewood town for a completely NAI post wehn TW is Oats' top scumread, that's just so much bs.
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On August 30 2017 22:51 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think ls is very mafia-y though.
We will see, rn LS has one flimsy scumread, i am waiting for 2 more.
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What i am trying to say is that the best OAts can produce as scumread is that a person "is doing nothing" and even that doesn't apply to all people.
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I will not believe Damdred is mafia. I will also not believe Skynx is mafia because of what Artanis said and because i had the same conclusion about Skynx' D1, if he did that as mafia when there was Koshi with you pushing him as lynch up, then well played but i just don't think that's true. I have had a townread on Tumblewood but i guess i should reread him too, probably wont change my mind, but i think the EoD 1 of his should be contrasted to his other posts.
So basically - i believe there has to be at least 1 mafia between LS and ruxxar. And i am not sure which one that is. Ruxxar is starting to look more and more like too bad to be too bad to be scum, i think he might be overplaying this. Pay a great deal of attention to what he says after the night kill since with 100% certainty one of his scumreads is going to die.
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On August 30 2017 23:10 Holyflare wrote:
Wait what did skynx do?
This happened when Skynx was being voted:
On August 26 2017 20:01 Skynx wrote:
You guys are dumb as fuck
On August 26 2017 20:02 Skynx wrote:
Sad thing is its prolly all town on me again
On August 26 2017 20:10 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 20:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 20:02 Skynx wrote:
Sad thing is its prolly all town on me again When did you start townreading me? Cuz you are so lost in this game you have no idea what you're doing.
On August 26 2017 20:13 Skynx wrote:I was considering your points when rayn started defiling the thread. Now i don't really care tbh.
The point is; my case on Skynx was based on a misunderstanding of wording in his post. He knew he was right and i was wrong and couldn't understand why people were so stupid to join the wagon on him based on this. Do you think this is what mafia does? Basically "gives up" when there is a perfectly reasonable explanation to his actions and there is a townie (Koshi) up for lynch aswell? You can go read the thread from this post onwards and tell me what you think. But that's the conclusion both me and Artanis came to.
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On August 30 2017 23:16 Damdred wrote:
I'm here caught up a bit, the problem rayn is with ls la I he was really town puppy early and the *play* he made was totally in his wheel house.
So you think it was a play and not that LS came up with something afterwards?
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Wait what were Skynx' scum reads at that time?
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On August 25 2017 23:58 Skynx wrote:
Back on topic:
My plan is to ignore alignment of HF til later, prolly Day2.5 as he's hard to read and altogether impossible to lynch D1.
TW/gerpit/Art looks like a good trio to focus at
On August 27 2017 02:24 Skynx wrote:
Meh no one obvious scum right now. geript still seems the worst but it looks like he's not gona defend and I'm getting cold feet, mafia might be happy with that kill and letting it be...
Ruxxar and Art are terribad this game, they are lynch category I don't think too omgus to be mafia applies here anymore.
I like Damdred, Oats, HF, Koshi (more on this later). Rayn is uncc'd.
I'm not sure what to think about Vivax right now, some good some bad.
LS and TW still look like they enjoy the backseat ride.
Now I hear your points on Koshi HF. I just haven't went through whole Koshi yet and his presence in the thread seemed town to me him pushing the game forward constantly. On top of that the trio on Koshi right now look the worst to me, I'm not voting with them in any case.
Skynx why does Ruxxar join scumlist after first post here?
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On August 30 2017 23:35 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2017 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2017 23:16 Damdred wrote:
I'm here caught up a bit, the problem rayn is with ls la I he was really town puppy early and the *play* he made was totally in his wheel house.
So you think it was a play and not that LS came up with something afterwards? I'm not sure, I put it in stars because Idk. Like the play has little Tim to develop and you have another person with a vas on them and they are hot in themselves as well. I don't see what he would accomplish with everything else happens in thread.
The problem is for that to be a "play" it would require this post:
On August 28 2017 06:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I found rayn's reasoning for fake claiming cop kinda bullshit tbh but don't think it makes him scum. His play seems townie enough.
to be a part of it and a "lie" which LS said it isn't.
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On August 30 2017 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 23:58 Skynx wrote:
Back on topic:
My plan is to ignore alignment of HF til later, prolly Day2.5 as he's hard to read and altogether impossible to lynch D1.
TW/gerpit/Art looks like a good trio to focus at Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 02:24 Skynx wrote:
Meh no one obvious scum right now. geript still seems the worst but it looks like he's not gona defend and I'm getting cold feet, mafia might be happy with that kill and letting it be...
Ruxxar and Art are terribad this game, they are lynch category I don't think too omgus to be mafia applies here anymore.
I like Damdred, Oats, HF, Koshi (more on this later). Rayn is uncc'd.
I'm not sure what to think about Vivax right now, some good some bad.
LS and TW still look like they enjoy the backseat ride.
Now I hear your points on Koshi HF. I just haven't went through whole Koshi yet and his presence in the thread seemed town to me him pushing the game forward constantly. On top of that the trio on Koshi right now look the worst to me, I'm not voting with them in any case.
Skynx why does Ruxxar join scumlist after first post here?
Also why does Artanis go to town pile when he just voted you for "terrible reasons"?
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Meh nevermind on the second post i missed you scumread Artanis.
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Go more into detail with this please. And stop saying "lynch me if you need to" it's fucking mylo D3. Play the game, what the fuck is all this martyring?
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Also why is geript slot mafia?
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Here is what you did LS:
You scumread geript.
You say you could lynch Artanis or geript
You never vote for geript (when he is tied on votes with Koshi).
You townread geript because he is "replacing out"?!?!?!?!?
You never talk about geript after that, on D2 you don't even mention him as a scumread.
Now you scumread the slot because "terrible".
How does this make any sense?
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You either think he is town for replacing out (which is terrible) or you don't, but you're trying to do both.
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On August 30 2017 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
Oh it's mylo?
yes this is a 12 player game.
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On August 31 2017 00:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I done playing with mafia after this game completely regardless of the outcome it just not fun anymore. Will bare minimum for rest of the game.
And right now you stop this fucking bullshit.
You do this every single time, when i try to ask you questions you make it look like i somehow personally offend you. It's not fun, this is a game where people try to figure out other people's alignments and try to call them out for inconsistancies. I am not taking this from you because you ahve already made it so far some people think i am some kind of a bad guy because i try to find mafia. And i hate it.
Please do not ever play again.
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Last time i accfepted apologies, now i won't, please just quit.
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I will promise though that if i even get a PM from some mod for that crap of LS', let alone some dumbass decision, i will never ever visit this site again.
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On August 31 2017 00:36 Damdred wrote:
Granted vivax was a kill that felt a bit off to me, so rux might be onto something there.
Like who in game knows how vivax plays blue? A few people not many.
It might be who he was starting to scum read, I am unsure in that regard. Maybe it will enlighten us with the next kill but idk.
Well this is a bad post.
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On August 31 2017 00:41 ruXxar wrote:
I literally can't handle the stupid that's going on with you.
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On August 31 2017 00:42 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 31 2017 00:36 Damdred wrote:
Granted vivax was a kill that felt a bit off to me, so rux might be onto something there.
Like who in game knows how vivax plays blue? A few people not many.
It might be who he was starting to scum read, I am unsure in that regard. Maybe it will enlighten us with the next kill but idk. Well this is a bad post. Yes it is, I'm having a hard time trying to get what I think about it across. I think vivax was a medic dodge since you were claiming parity and hf was an equal medic target at that point. But what bothers me is that vivax was still under a bit of scrutiny in thread ( I was town read in him though). But he was attacking ruxx and oats I think? I need to make sure again, but I think it points toward a world where a geript/oats/ one of skynx/ruxx is a possibility. Its horrible reasoning I dont think scum ls does this Nov in thread necessarily right now? Just shitty of him though
Yes it does, unless it was a blue snipe. But you're somehow trying to make it sound Ruxxar makes any sense when he doesn't.
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On August 31 2017 00:44 Damdred wrote:
Here's the thing rux, I'm not here to punish a bad play. I'm here to lynch scum, everyone has seen all of rayn claims and nobody has cc his claim.
The simplest solution is he's the jk.
If a jk does during the night and it's not run I will lynch him though.
This is a bad post too.
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Unless you're somehow trying to make mafia CC me the next day and lie here, but that's also bad.
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On August 31 2017 00:45 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 31 2017 00:42 Damdred wrote:On August 31 2017 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 31 2017 00:36 Damdred wrote:
Granted vivax was a kill that felt a bit off to me, so rux might be onto something there.
Like who in game knows how vivax plays blue? A few people not many.
It might be who he was starting to scum read, I am unsure in that regard. Maybe it will enlighten us with the next kill but idk. Well this is a bad post. Yes it is, I'm having a hard time trying to get what I think about it across. I think vivax was a medic dodge since you were claiming parity and hf was an equal medic target at that point. But what bothers me is that vivax was still under a bit of scrutiny in thread ( I was town read in him though). But he was attacking ruxx and oats I think? I need to make sure again, but I think it points toward a world where a geript/oats/ one of skynx/ruxx is a possibility. Its horrible reasoning I dont think scum ls does this Nov in thread necessarily right now? Just shitty of him though Yes it does, unless it was a blue snipe. But you're somehow trying to make it sound Ruxxar makes any sense when he doesn't. I dont think that's what I meant to do,
On August 31 2017 00:36 Damdred wrote:
Granted vivax was a kill that felt a bit off to me, so rux might be onto something there.
I am sorry i don't know what this means then.
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On August 31 2017 00:47 Damdred wrote:
But it's truthful, you claim parity was a borderline bad play, if it would of been on a newer plays instead of vivax would of been a uch worse situation
It was not, it was to keep HF alive. Can you see the players in this game? I couldn't give any fucks about a parity cop staying alive when you have this town with you, HF alive on D2 is like 3x parity cops.
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Like half of these people cant find mafia even if it claimed in their face. Rude, but true.
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Sorry i am just pissed off at LS, but yeah, that's why i did it.
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Now afk, i am getting angry unnecessarily and i don't feel like playing.
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On September 05 2017 04:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Rayn if you are around can I talk to you on Skype or Discord please?
No
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On September 06 2017 00:55 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2017 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2017 04:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Rayn if you are around can I talk to you on Skype or Discord please? No PM's then?
No, it literally doesnt matter anymore.
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