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On August 23 2017 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote: /in Woah | ||
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Maybe i should host again some day when I have time | ||
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On August 25 2017 04:43 Vivax wrote: HF afk at game start on a thursday means he's scum. This is bs I haven't even read my pm yet Kinda scared to Brb | ||
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Wow sick bait I can't believe that worked | ||
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On August 25 2017 04:58 Koshi wrote: Would be better if you just play and try to join our town cirle HF. Like this is the most "hf is town" post in the game | ||
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On August 25 2017 05:07 Vivax wrote: You are unusual Nah but seriously that koshi post after I did basically claim scum is really fucking out there. Basically talking to me like confirmed town and to come back and join a town circle? Like what? | ||
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On August 25 2017 05:03 Damdred wrote: I'm super stressed rayn ran an just trying to relax. It is interesting lots jumped on my early ls read, and actually plus 1 it. Why is it interesting? | ||
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On August 25 2017 05:13 Damdred wrote: I think my answer to koshi answers you as well hf? Not really but i don't care enough about it anymore | ||
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On August 25 2017 05:25 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 05:23 Koshi wrote: On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote: On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote: On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote: On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote: I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style. I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time. We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote: So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler + Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler + so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Is this true? Can you recheck and promise me this is true? + Show Spoiler + On August 25 2017 04:54 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 04:53 Skynx wrote: On July 13 2017 06:34 Koshi wrote: Hello my Minions. Your master will be doing a 1 page filter D1. He is planning on making 3 big quality posts and around 15 "fluff" posts but only when he politely is asked a question or feels like barking a question. Good Minions know that the great leader should be followed, and even naughty Minions know to at least sheep the master his list. Evil Minions will be dealt with. Swiftly and without mercy. Your leader has spoken. Hail to the great leader. (Generic 3) Koshi posts gameplans as mafia ##Vote: Koshi Did you check if he posted gameplans in town games? On August 25 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 05:07 Skynx wrote: On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote: I will be playing superslow. Still banking all that mad respect from last game. (Starwars: rogue one) On October 04 2016 06:03 Koshi wrote: Not sure if I have a plan this game. Not hard townreading mafia somehow maybe. (Murder on Cruise) On August 16 2016 08:32 Koshi wrote: Second. Confirmed town. Wanted to play this game really really slow. But I got a pretty cool role so maybe not. (purge) We might be on a pattern here actually have you looked at a single town game On August 25 2017 05:09 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote: On August 25 2017 05:07 Skynx wrote: On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote: I will be playing superslow. Still banking all that mad respect from last game. (Starwars: rogue one) On October 04 2016 06:03 Koshi wrote: Not sure if I have a plan this game. Not hard townreading mafia somehow maybe. (Murder on Cruise) On August 16 2016 08:32 Koshi wrote: Second. Confirmed town. Wanted to play this game really really slow. But I got a pretty cool role so maybe not. (purge) We might be on a pattern here actually have you looked at a single town game ^ If what you mean is that TW lmao, i dunno what to make of that. That's like 14 minutes apart dude | ||
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On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote: On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote: On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote: On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote: I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style. I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time. We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote: So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler + Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler + so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: please, shush, if you are talking about Skynx. I wanna know something Are you even reading the same game? | ||
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On August 25 2017 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 05:28 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote: On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote: On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote: On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote: I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style. I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time. We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote: So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler + Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler + so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 25 2017 05:26 Holyflare wrote: Did you even look at koshi's town games? please, shush, if you are talking about Skynx. I wanna know something Are you even reading the same game? Yes. I am talking about the "these three people are not mafia if Koshi is mafia" conclusion. I'll allow it | ||
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On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote: On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote: On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote: On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote: I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style. I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time. We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote: So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler + Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler + so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game. Well it's not really a conclusion is it? It's also kind of backwards. When I think of this situation it's "what if they're mafia giving tmi?" Especially with such a big gap between the posts it could just he hopping on to someone else's post. Seems a bit backwards to think "if koshi is mafia these aren't". | ||
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On August 25 2017 05:37 Holyflare wrote: Did you read koshi's town games after those posts skynx? | ||
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On August 25 2017 06:06 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would a mafia dude EVER ignore defending their scumbuddy with ACTUAL reasons (your meta is 100% wrong), Skynx? Tell me that? Tell me why you think mafia would not do that, defend their scumbuddy with 100% accurate reasnoing? They don't know if it was wrong yet. ahhh that's my point exactly though! it's a weird train of thought to go through koshi's scum games and then get met with three people saying "But what about his town games?" and then decide that if koshi is mafia then they're all town did you conclude that koshi does this opening as town too? <-------- super important question plz answer | ||
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On August 25 2017 06:10 Damdred wrote: I think rayn is going to be a solid town read so far in this thread. I hope we can work together this game. ATM though skynx feels like he's a bit floundering and trying to poke you rayn, I'm not sure what this makes him quite yet though. Koshi and vivax also into the town pile. @HF why you no care about the question you asked me? cos it was boring and I don't care enough | ||
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On August 25 2017 06:11 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 06:11 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 06:06 Skynx wrote: On August 25 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would a mafia dude EVER ignore defending their scumbuddy with ACTUAL reasons (your meta is 100% wrong), Skynx? Tell me that? Tell me why you think mafia would not do that, defend their scumbuddy with 100% accurate reasnoing? They don't know if it was wrong yet. ahhh that's my point exactly though! it's a weird train of thought to go through koshi's scum games and then get met with three people saying "But what about his town games?" and then decide that if koshi is mafia then they're all town did you conclude that koshi does this opening as town too? <-------- super important question plz answer He did and even made a post about it. RIGHT don't answer for him tho if he can make this conclusion then why is his first thought "Oh, they were right. If Koshi is mafia though these people aren't!" instead of "If Koshi IS town then these people could be mafia knowing too much!"? | ||
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you don't conclude that koshi does this thing as town too and then make a further conclusion that people calling him out on it are all town if koshi is mafia you see that your conclusion means he could be either and that those posts could make those people mafia because: A) they're calling him out for meta without knowing the conclusion (could be an instance of tmi) B) they're piggybacking off of earlier point raised by vivax but 15 minutes later if you read someone as null after the conclusion you don't go back to thinking he's mafia and making conclusions based off of that | ||
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he also seemingly said what I said without saying it allegedly | ||
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On August 25 2017 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 06:58 Koshi wrote: Still. He is by far the most underwhelming player who also posted like mafia would post. Nha. geript's actions only make sense as mafia if Skynx is also mafia so this doesn't make any sense. ?????????????????????????????????????? but you've called skynx mafia all time??? | ||
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On August 25 2017 15:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can you guys let me talk to Skynx just for a couple of minutes please? I think this is very unlikely to come from scum rayn btw. It indicates to me he has something he really wants to pursue which is a townie mindset. As scum, he'd be happy to have town keep up the pressure while he's asking him questions, but he just wants to find out Skynx' alignment. You could argue that they could both be mafia, but that doesn't make any sense either. Mafia coming in to say 'hey town, shut up, I want to talk to my scumbuddy'? Don't believe it. Sooo you know that game you literally just hosted? On August 20 2017 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2017 02:20 Holyflare wrote: He told you why he thinks geript is mafia right in that post you quoted. Geript thinks he's mafia because of the reasons I think he's mafia but rels knows geript has no respect for his town play so he shouldn't be able to call him mafia if this is what geript expects. Except rels has done actually scummy things so it's perfectly valid for geript to think what he does. can you shut up for a while please? On August 20 2017 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let him talk fo fucks sake, this is why you make me so fucking annoyed i wanna throw a dart into your face HF..... Come on artanis. This is all crazy subpar from you. | ||
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I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. | ||
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On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote: You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet. I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again. Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. | ||
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On August 25 2017 17:58 Vivax wrote: And geript ACTUALLY posted a townie seal, why is he even up for discussion. 100 % confirmed town. No, 90% for adding a lot of text I will read later. But it really wasn't necessary with the seal. Has he ever posted it before? | ||
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On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote: You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet. I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again. Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? | ||
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On August 25 2017 18:20 Koshi wrote: Last time he called me mafia because I both said: 1) Geript is mafia for not having an opinion on thread leaders when he came back. 2) Geript is mafia for saying Koshi is mafia based on a townread on rayn. Which in his eyes makes it so that I scumread him both for not having an opinion and having an opinion on thread leaders. I mean it's not wrong. It's not a write an essay about reason though. | ||
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On March 05 2014 09:06 geript wrote: Ok so here's the post I was working on. I have to head to work. I wish I could fight this further, but ever since I heard about being able to post baby seals I've wanted so badly. You got me. I don't think I could've gotten to endgame regardless because of how much I bus my partners. At least I had Rayn in my pocket; I really shouldn't have killed him. + Show Spoiler + Original Message From geript: NO U This post is entirely facetious btw. He was town in the game. Either way he's only posted it once that I could find from digging and he was town and he felt bad because it was cheap but he meant it when he posted it. Cool free town read. | ||
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On August 25 2017 18:44 Koshi wrote: Not at all. I am just saying. I can see him use it as mafia this game. Also. Him posting that seal + an essay on why he is town doesn't make it more believable. For me he is still mafia. Pretty true though. | ||
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Now you want to lynch 2 afkers and a guy who posted townie seal? Koshi you're mafia man. Sucks. | ||
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On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote: You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet. I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again. Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective. I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong. Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong?? | ||
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It makes skynx town after all if artanis is mafia. | ||
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On August 25 2017 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote: You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet. I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again. Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective. I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong. Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong?? Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town. Like this is quintessential bull shittery. "oh he said he was mafia but that's not reallllyyyy why he thought he was mafia." ................. Keep stretching the narrative dude. A+ | ||
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Then look at his skynx progression. Skynx is probably mafia/bad looking after i post a good case (never votes skynx) into nothing changing but somehow he won't join the skynx wagon and now skynx is not even a mafia read. No posts in between. His artanis read is "that's a good thought" but anyone with any semblance of a town thought can see artanis' read is forced as fuck and crumbled completely but koshi bypasses that. Koshi's list of mafia initially magically became a list of an afk guy, a guy with 1 post and geript. Trash tier list. Now he got called out for it he's had to completely change it to some new bs that isn't congruent with his thoughts at all. His post to me when I fake claimed mafia was also talking to me like I was town and should "join the town circle" pandering to me because he knows my alignment. He purports he didn't realise but that's bs. Every koshi thought has been completely contradicted by his actions. There are either two koshis playing on his account or he's mafia. | ||
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Join me please. | ||
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We lynch koshi today. Absolutely no way is his filter townie. | ||
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On August 25 2017 23:36 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 23:32 Holyflare wrote: I hard claim blue so you now know my reads are legitimate. Join me please. I will be honest I don't believe your blue claim because you done it as both alignments. When have I ever done this as mafia day 1??? | ||
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On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote: I've read the thread. Only solid read is that skynx is town. I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did. Oh boy mafia just throwing themselves out | ||
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On August 25 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote: I've read the thread. Only solid read is that skynx is town. I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did. Oh boy mafia just throwing themselves out But you scum read koshi so I'm conflicted | ||
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On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote: HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia". But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. You drunk? He made that conclusion AFTER he concluded koshi wasn't mafia. | ||
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On August 25 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote: Read koshi filter and his posts towards tw. Realise tw was a scum read and it's disappeared off the face of the earth. Then look at his skynx progression. Skynx is probably mafia/bad looking after i post a good case (never votes skynx) into nothing changing but somehow he won't join the skynx wagon and now skynx is not even a mafia read. No posts in between. His artanis read is "that's a good thought" but anyone with any semblance of a town thought can see artanis' read is forced as fuck and crumbled completely but koshi bypasses that. Koshi's list of mafia initially magically became a list of an afk guy, a guy with 1 post and geript. Trash tier list. Now he got called out for it he's had to completely change it to some new bs that isn't congruent with his thoughts at all. His post to me when I fake claimed mafia was also talking to me like I was town and should "join the town circle" pandering to me because he knows my alignment. He purports he didn't realise but that's bs. Every koshi thought has been completely contradicted by his actions. There are either two koshis playing on his account or he's mafia. | ||
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But also respond to my post where I call out your inconsistencies on skynx. | ||
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On August 26 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 00:10 Holyflare wrote: On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote: HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia". But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. You drunk? He made that conclusion AFTER he concluded koshi wasn't mafia. It's irrelevant nitpicking. NAI imo. How is it irrelevant nitpicking you just made the wrong conclusion based on a false premise but now it's nitpicking lol? | ||
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That just flat out looks like he's calling me town. | ||
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On August 26 2017 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare, are you around in about 1.5 hrs? Lets have a talk then. Probably | ||
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None of his reads are coherent at all. | ||
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Artanis dropped off face of earth. Rayn looks way better this game than last. Not sure I agree with his artanis/skynx conclusions though. Bit far fetched. Vivax largely irrelevant? Scary. Geript needs to scum hunt instead of answering questions. Damdred gives me warm fuzzy feelings of old damdred reads Tw just poeing not read him. Will call him scum all game and arbitrarily call him town at another. Ruxxar is scarily quiet. Backwards logic on skynx and afk. He's voting koshbag though so for now it's ok. Anyone else? | ||
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On August 26 2017 03:22 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote: Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue. hahahahahahahahha The guy sitting on the cop whining about the wagon of justice. Scumreading NK1 and NK3 the entire game pushing mafia agenda all day and night. And that guy wanted to surrender or quit playing when we selected a full mafia team. And didn't lynch obvious rayn mafia D1. suuuurrrreeeeee I shouldn't make this post but hahahahahahahha I just want to reiterate how factually incorrect this is btw. I never wanted to quit or surrender. I berated you for not making me top town after scum reading rayn but then you put rayn in the mafia list. Nice try trying to mislead the peons though. This is literally just ad hom at me and totally unrelated to anything about my posts and alignment this game. He's so salty it's hilarious. | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 04:27 Holyflare wrote: Oats looks good. Artanis dropped off face of earth. Rayn looks way better this game than last. Not sure I agree with his artanis/skynx conclusions though. Bit far fetched. Vivax largely irrelevant? Scary. Geript needs to scum hunt instead of answering questions. Damdred gives me warm fuzzy feelings of old damdred reads Tw just poeing not read him. Will call him scum all game and arbitrarily call him town at another. Ruxxar is scarily quiet. Backwards logic on skynx and afk. He's voting koshbag though so for now it's ok. Anyone else? Do not get me wrong. I am not saying either of them is mafia because of the "association" (if that's what you're saying). I am saying you shouldn't count them out as being mafia together. If that's not what you're saying then i have no idea what you're saying since you seem to be thinking both of them are amfia... I'm likely going to discount them both as a mafia team. I do scum read them both independently though. Don't ask me how or why. I don't know. | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 04:39 Holyflare wrote: What do you wanna talk about? I don't understand this whole geript thing Idk, i think Koshi might be right in geript's Tumblewood read being shit. Or do you think Tumblewood is mafia? I've read like one thing tw wrote and it was a bad town read list. I have no opinion other than that. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:10 Tumblewood wrote: so if i am to trust rayn on oats (and i do because he has apparently played 50 million games with him), i have converged upon a team of geript/hf/art. and outside of that there might be one scum that i am overlooking ??????????????????????????????????????????????????? hf and artanis in the same sentence despite me destroying all of his shitty logic? you mad???? | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:27 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 07:26 Holyflare wrote: koshi/tw/someonelike60%ofplayersinthisgame HF. If you were gonna give a score how high koshi is mafia 1 to 100. What would you say? 87 | ||
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TW read => mafia, mafia, mafia, mafia => ???????????????? not on any scum list at any point in time ever Skynx read => good hf read, weird, good kill, don't wan't to lynch, not in mafia list at all (ALL WHILE SKYNX HASN'T POSTED ONCE) HF read => (sees hf claim mafia in thread) come on join town circle, town, town, good analysis on skynx, not annoying enough, "Bad" (not even mafia), in scum list with no vote, insults about my ability to not find mafia, insults about how i'm bad with more quotes highlighting my badness, afk excuses, returns to insult, afk excuses Artanis read => sees artanis post trashiest analysis seen yet, says it's good, solid analysis, artanis is mafia because he likes read on skynx, artanis doesn't feature in any scum list koshi makes ever => ??????????? koshi scum list => afker, afker, geript koshi new scum list => town guy, bad looking ruxxar at time, geript => all of those people voting him at that time so omgus | ||
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hint: it's not if you read his posts with the view that I'm town then you'll realise the truth, what need would he have to constantly berate me with a flurry of insults of how shit my reads are and how bad a player I am if he thinks I'm mafia? The truth is he got caught out and can't handle it | ||
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On August 26 2017 08:04 Vivax wrote: The reason HF is scummy is that he's mostly just finding anything he can to push people with very little town hunting besides it. Basically if thread sentiment switches, he could just write a bunch of lines on anyone he said "looks good" previously (cause that's the best reason you're gonna get from his TRs) and vote them anyway without repercussions. He isn't POEing or anything or have townreads he really has to commit to. Damdred warm fuzzy feeling is BS and if Damdred isn't posting within the next 18 hours tomorrow we might see HF write that Damdred has fucked off and he would kill him . what are you talking about? rayn is completely different from last game, he's pushing inconsistencies and trying to ask people questions to solve things damdred is probably town because of his feel reads that don't quite make sense unless you're damdred but that are based on nothing oats is completely balls to the wall guns blazing after not playing for like a million years, like aggressive oats if you want me to have more solid town reads than those three I don't know what to tell you other than that's quite frankly impossible I have some fringe reads like tw and now actually ruxxar after his drunk spree or whatever he calls it but I guess that fulfils your "leaving them open" bs | ||
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On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now. Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today. Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town? I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on. Even though tw said geript always does it? | ||
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On August 25 2017 20:55 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote: You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet. I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again. Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective. I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong. Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong?? Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town. Like this is quintessential bull shittery. "oh he said he was mafia but that's not reallllyyyy why he thought he was mafia." ................. Keep stretching the narrative dude. A+ Slam dunk. | ||
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On August 26 2017 18:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 18:56 Holyflare wrote: His longest post in the game is literally explaining why someone claiming cop is town Show nested quote + On August 24 2017 07:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Fuck it /in Just don't expect the same activity from me from before I got a full time job x_x I'm not workposting lol zzz So? Just because you can't play that much doesn't mean you pick the most obvious thing to waste your time on to talk about. | ||
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On August 26 2017 19:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 18:58 Holyflare wrote: Hey artanis are you ever gonna explain why you said skynx motivation to call koshi mafia was based not on the reasons skynx was calling koshi mafia? It is what made sense to me. Clue 1: Skynx calls Koshi mafia for X Clue 2: Skynx was proven wrong on this. Clue 3: Skynx posting makes it clear he still has a suspicion Obvious conclusion: This was not the reason he was scumreading Koshi. It's not rocket science. He's literally said he didn't have suspicion anymore??? | ||
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On August 26 2017 19:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like I said yesterday, I actually have some time now. Are you going to pester me all the time with questions that don't lead anywhere and prevent me from reading the thread? I'm sorry how do they not lead anywhere? You're a giant question mark and resolving that would be nice. You're not obligated to respond until you've caught up you know. | ||
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It is especially ridiculous when he rescinded that accusation within one post and has no underlying scum read to begin with. It's also hilarious when be blatantly town reads koshi later by virtue of wanting to sheep him. | ||
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On August 26 2017 19:15 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 19:09 Holyflare wrote: Skynx let's just clear something up. Did you still scum read koshi after you found out he did his opener as town? No, my meta was wrong and it didn't make koshi scum. That means null on Koshi. Implication was that if he ever turned out scum, those three would get some towncred in my eyes. Boom. Artanis is mafia. | ||
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On August 26 2017 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote: On August 26 2017 19:15 Skynx wrote: On August 26 2017 19:09 Holyflare wrote: Skynx let's just clear something up. Did you still scum read koshi after you found out he did his opener as town? No, my meta was wrong and it didn't make koshi scum. That means null on Koshi. Implication was that if he ever turned out scum, those three would get some towncred in my eyes. Boom. Artanis is mafia. How is that relevant to my alignment? All that matters is whether I believed what I said. Because to the majority of the people in this game it's apparent that skynx didn't scum read koshi anymore but still had that weird thought process. To the person that doesn't know alignments we assume that makes him mafia. To the mafia (you) you know he's town and make up a completely bull shit narrative town thought process that he didn't even have. You're mafiaaaaa. Ggggggg. | ||
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On August 26 2017 19:30 Vivax wrote: HF I don't understand what you're trying to do with skynx rehashing all that stuff over and over again. His meta was wrong, he didn't care to do his due diligence. Make your conclusion. I think other parts of his filter are more interesting, this for example. Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote: On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia rayn: why? [conversation about why] Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. Skynx: That's what im trying to say whaaaaat? That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point. It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game. This post might as well not exist since it doesn't lead anywhere. He's saying if Koshi is mafia, then what us three did was townie. If Koshi is town, then whatever. In later posts he talks about how LS doesn't deserve a strong TR and nobody should be townreading TW in reply to geript. So he isn't concluding anything from his own reasoning he gave to explain how he's supposed to draw a read from what us three did. Ergo, he probably just served rayn some drivel to shut him up. Are you playing intentionally dumb? This is nothing to do with skynx. | ||
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On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote: HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia". But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Kind of bull shit really. There's 4 minutes between him finding a mafia post and the town one. Basically the time it takes to meta dive and post. Then 10 minutes after that he makes the conclusion after not thinking koshi is mafia. | ||
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On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote: HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia". But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this. Perhaps you should actually read ruxxar's post when you use him to defend yourself. On August 26 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 00:10 Holyflare wrote: On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote: HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia". But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. You drunk? He made that conclusion AFTER he concluded koshi wasn't mafia. It's irrelevant nitpicking. NAI imo. He doesn't even realise the order of events happening and is drunk. | ||
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On August 26 2017 19:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If Skynx is mafia I don't see it being terribly likely that Koshi is. You mean the guy that scum read skynx but then with no new posts from skynx said we shouldn't lynch skynx and he wasn't in any scum list? | ||
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On August 26 2017 20:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 20:00 Holyflare wrote: On August 26 2017 19:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If Skynx is mafia I don't see it being terribly likely that Koshi is. You mean the guy that scum read skynx but then with no new posts from skynx said we shouldn't lynch skynx and he wasn't in any scum list? Does scum!skynx focus on scum!koshi right out of the gate and then talk about people being mafia with Koshi? Seems unlikely. Don't see why he couldn't at all. The qt could easily be: Koshi: fuck this game hard with rayn/hf town we gotta bus And then skynx does that. | ||
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On August 26 2017 20:04 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote: HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia". But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this. I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something. Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous. See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process. On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia rayn: why? [conversation about why] Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. Skynx: That's what im trying to say It is very simple. Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y. No way. He just intentionally leaves out the second part of my post here "TW is not a +1 imo". Which completely invalidates the safe mafia play Koshi implies. Quote a post that makes tw not just a +1. Then respond to vivax why you ignored your own statement and scum read tw. | ||
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On August 26 2017 20:06 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 20:00 Holyflare wrote: On August 26 2017 19:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If Skynx is mafia I don't see it being terribly likely that Koshi is. You mean the guy that scum read skynx but then with no new posts from skynx said we shouldn't lynch skynx and he wasn't in any scum list? He never scum read skynx dude. I'm still wary of you cause you're so hung up on Koshi. Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote: On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote: On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote: On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote: On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote: On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote: On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote: I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style. I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time. We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote: So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler + Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler + so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game. If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be? Mind meld? The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling. You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you. This is a pretty good post. And if Skynx actually flips mafia, TW & LS are spewed town. Dude. That's literally a copy and paste of my post. | ||
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On August 26 2017 20:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think I probably want to lynch Koshi or Geript instead. You what? | ||
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On August 26 2017 23:38 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 26 2017 23:17 Damdred wrote: Let me make sure and look at his filter again. I think he is but I'll check. Do you agree with my scum list rayn? Or am I wrong with how I am approaching someone? Yes. I do. Except for Skynx. On August 26 2017 23:20 Holyflare wrote: Just ruxxar/artanis/skynx/geript/and the others I would remove Skynx and add Oatsmaster. I don't know what he is trying to do with his LS push. Like, I did like how oats came into the thread and went after people. I thought it was town, I don't understand how he came to his four scum list. I thought all of them were town when he posted that. I still like the way he is pushing, but dislike how he's reading the game. I just dontg want to lynch him today. My exact feel for oats. Good aggression but weird reads. | ||
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On August 27 2017 02:24 Skynx wrote: Meh no one obvious scum right now. geript still seems the worst but it looks like he's not gona defend and I'm getting cold feet, mafia might be happy with that kill and letting it be... Ruxxar and Art are terribad this game, they are lynch category I don't think too omgus to be mafia applies here anymore. I like Damdred, Oats, HF, Koshi (more on this later). Rayn is uncc'd. I'm not sure what to think about Vivax right now, some good some bad. LS and TW still look like they enjoy the backseat ride. Now I hear your points on Koshi HF. I just haven't went through whole Koshi yet and his presence in the thread seemed town to me him pushing the game forward constantly. On top of that the trio on Koshi right now look the worst to me, I'm not voting with them in any case. at what point did he do this? he's played 12 hours and then perma afkd from the thread insulting me for the past 36 | ||
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On August 27 2017 03:00 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2017 02:56 Holyflare wrote: did you even read koshi scum a few games ago? he literally does the exact same thing here when I pushed him: 1. post afk excuse 2. return to insult holyflare 3. afk it's like reading a carbon copy of the same game ffs Did you check if he does this as town? yeh spoiler: he doesn't, he just calls me bad but still plays | ||
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On August 27 2017 03:11 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2017 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote: On August 27 2017 03:01 Skynx wrote: Jokes aside, I'm not voting with Art/Rux holyflaare Yeah you arent voting with them but you are perfectly ok with their target dying? No. Most of the people including you sr geript at the same time but vote Koshi for reasons yet unknown to me. Unknown??? I think you said you were gonna read koshi with my points in mind. Now it's unknown? | ||
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On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote ##vote Ruxxar What the fuck is this. You think koshi returns to insult me and basically call me town while pushing nothing and just afking again? I don't care about the people on his wagon. They could even be bussing. He's just obviously mafia at this point. | ||
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Fuck that. Artanis wagon blazed into existence and still people felt like not giving a shit and afking while saying "oh last will not mafia-y!" Skynx and damdred both guilty of that. Also that vote count has two rayns so now i don't even know where he votef | ||
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On August 27 2017 04:37 LightningStrike wrote: Well lex is pretty much town with that last post it kinda shitty though. Show nested quote + On August 27 2017 04:35 Holyflare wrote: People off wagon and on artanis look terrible Says the person who hammered town!Koshi...... Dude looked mafia af I also had reasons to be on this wagon. All the artanis ones are born from confusion and what even | ||
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On August 27 2017 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2017 04:39 Holyflare wrote: I also had reasons to be on this wagon. All the artanis ones are born from confusion and what even Stop this bullshit right now if you are town. Um what? You waited until right at the end of the day to even say anything and it's all stuff that happened ages ago. Then suddenly a hundred people turn up and artanis gets voted. No that's fucking suspect as fuck. | ||
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On August 27 2017 04:44 Damdred wrote: You ignored my fucking points hf. You just brushed them off, that's such shit. I at least give you the time of day and don't ignore your points. The artanis points are/were good I brought up. I was against the koshi lynch all day as were a multitude of other people. I am a sucker for a last will. You were wrong, now read what I wrote and at least respond to me. I read your points. I made the same exact points. I weighed them up and came to the conclusion I didn't care because he was lynching koshi. Who is now confirmed extremely rude by the way. Fuck you koshi. | ||
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On August 27 2017 04:30 Damdred wrote: Fuck I'm a sucker for last wills. Nvm this was at deadline on the dot. Ignore the hate. | ||
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On August 27 2017 04:47 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2017 04:46 Holyflare wrote: On August 27 2017 04:44 Damdred wrote: You ignored my fucking points hf. You just brushed them off, that's such shit. I at least give you the time of day and don't ignore your points. The artanis points are/were good I brought up. I was against the koshi lynch all day as were a multitude of other people. I am a sucker for a last will. You were wrong, now read what I wrote and at least respond to me. I read your points. I made the same exact points. I weighed them up and came to the conclusion I didn't care because he was lynching koshi. Who is now confirmed extremely rude by the way. Fuck you koshi. Fuck you. Koshi not defending was so fucking obvious. You should have showed in the thread. No it's not obvious because he did the exact same thing when he was mafia that got caught out. He couldn't be bothered. | ||
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On August 27 2017 04:29 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Last will: Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too. Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum. ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go. LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh. Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia. TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything. Town: Rayn LS ruXxar Townish: Skynx LS Vivax HF Null: TW Oats Null-scummish Geript Scum Damdred Koshi You are not the lynch right now. Why did your vote stay on artanis after this? | ||
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On August 27 2017 04:52 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2017 04:49 Holyflare wrote: On August 27 2017 04:29 Skynx wrote: On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Last will: Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too. Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum. ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go. LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh. Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia. TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything. Town: Rayn LS ruXxar Townish: Skynx LS Vivax HF Null: TW Oats Null-scummish Geript Scum Damdred Koshi You are not the lynch right now. Why did your vote stay on artanis after this? Such an irrelevant question. I still think Art is mafia, in case someone wakes up we lynch mafia. I knew koshi was town when he didn't defend. It says you're not the lynch. Why would you post that if you think he's mafia?? | ||
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So TW it's scummy that I question and hound the guy you voted for when you also said hf post 404 That you liked post 404 which is On August 25 2017 20:55 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2017 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote: On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote: You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet. I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again. Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective. I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong. Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong?? Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town. Like this is quintessential bull shittery. "oh he said he was mafia but that's not reallllyyyy why he thought he was mafia." ................. Keep stretching the narrative dude. A+ The EXACT thing that you said is a good post for harassing artanis is now the thing that you use to base a scum read on me. | ||
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On August 27 2017 17:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 27 2017 17:34 Holyflare wrote: It should be quite obvious why people off koshi are scummy though. The koshi train had legit points that I've argued and not one person countered them with anything whatsoever. Blanket "oh I think koshi is town though" statements are so so bull shit and disingenuous. The wagon had pure reasons, koshi was a shitter but yet people still were hesitant for 0 explained reasons. Koshi is a ridiculously hars person to push when he's town and the mafia know it. That's why I'm looking at people who didn't vote him. This is the rels 2.0 lynch. To be fair, I normally am too. Us both being afk near EoD made either of our lynches a lot easier. The people on koshi were on him for at least half a cycle so not particularly true. | ||
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August 27 2017 17:52 GMT
#1493
On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Last will: Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too. Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum. ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go. LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh. Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia. TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything. Town: Rayn LS ruXxar Townish: Skynx LS Vivax HF Null: TW Oats Null-scummish Geript Scum Damdred Koshi This is also a bs last will now that I look at it because if you think the Koshi case is the strongest and he's the most mafia but then you just write a shit line about "wait and see" on me despite copying my exact reads and following my lynch. I don't believe you think those thoughts simultaneously. Whoever it was that said about your damdred read is also spot on. | ||
Holyflare
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August 27 2017 17:54 GMT
#1496
On August 28 2017 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2017 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 28 2017 01:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 28 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time. I also wasn't and still am not sure on my Geript scumread. See here is the kicker. You knew, that i heavily think geript is mafia. You promised to sheep me on what i want to do. If you have read any of my posts you knew that i don't actually think Koshi is mafia. There are many problems: 1) what i just said, you hadn't read any of those people 2) when you got out of Skynx being mafia, you chose to filter Koshi, decide he is mafia, and vote + afk (i dont care about the reasons but that's what you did). You are still not sure if geript is mafia so you jsut randomly took one of those people, filtered him, and called him mafia. I am fucking terrible at explaining this but that's not what townies do, i would be okay if you just sheeped me on geript or even read geript instead of Koshi (as he was your top scumread at the time). Basically you are ranking people above or below others while having absolutely no idea what they have posted, when you sheep, you dont sheep the people you said you would, and i think that makes you mafia. I did not know that. I knew Koshi talked a lot about Geript being scum for a while, but I did not remember you going after Geript much at that moment in time. I filtered Koshi because he seemed the most scummy to me during my catchup and HF was talking a lot about him. I could not sheep you because you were voting Skynx whom I did not believe was mafia at that time, and that was the focus I was getting from you. I did not know who else you would vote. Bahahahaha | ||
Holyflare
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August 27 2017 17:56 GMT
#1499
On August 28 2017 02:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2017 02:50 Holyflare wrote: Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did. Hm, I think I started catching up from a thread page later than what I actually missed somehow. That's pretty impressive. Oh, that's convenient then because I post it again on page 26! http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=26#506 Nice try | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 17:57 GMT
#1500
On August 28 2017 02:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2017 02:52 Holyflare wrote: On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Last will: Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too. Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum. ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go. LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh. Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia. TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything. Town: Rayn LS ruXxar Townish: Skynx LS Vivax HF Null: TW Oats Null-scummish Geript Scum Damdred Koshi This is also a bs last will now that I look at it because if you think the Koshi case is the strongest and he's the most mafia but then you just write a shit line about "wait and see" on me despite copying my exact reads and following my lynch. I don't believe you think those thoughts simultaneously. Whoever it was that said about your damdred read is also spot on. See previous post. Also you being right doesn't make you town even if I had read or remembered what you said. No but having the same thought as someone and pushing the same case as someone generally makes that guy look townier for having the exact same thoughts. Apparently not to you though. | ||
Holyflare
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August 27 2017 17:58 GMT
#1502
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 18:00 GMT
#1506
On August 28 2017 02:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2017 02:56 Holyflare wrote: On August 28 2017 02:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 28 2017 02:50 Holyflare wrote: Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did. Hm, I think I started catching up from a thread page later than what I actually missed somehow. That's pretty impressive. Oh, that's convenient then because I post it again on page 26! http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=26#506 Nice try I think I started catching up from somewhere around page 30 though and barely got any further because I kept getting involved into discussions. I had skimmed through those pages. Oh that's convenient because I post it again on page 42! http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=42#826 | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 18:06 GMT
#1508
On August 28 2017 03:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2017 03:00 Holyflare wrote: On August 28 2017 02:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 28 2017 02:56 Holyflare wrote: On August 28 2017 02:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On August 28 2017 02:50 Holyflare wrote: Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did. Hm, I think I started catching up from a thread page later than what I actually missed somehow. That's pretty impressive. Oh, that's convenient then because I post it again on page 26! http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=26#506 Nice try I think I started catching up from somewhere around page 30 though and barely got any further because I kept getting involved into discussions. I had skimmed through those pages. Oh that's convenient because I post it again on page 42! http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=42#826 Yeah I remember reading that. Hadn't I already scumread Koshi by then? Also, just because you posted a case doesn't mean I registered it properly. Perhaps it took me actually opening his filter to see the scumminess. Anyway, folks of my fiancee are calling to chat. Laters. Oh you mean the filter where koshi quotes my cases? http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=22#440 Ohhhh, that's convenient :D :D :D :D :D | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 18:08 GMT
#1509
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 19:06 GMT
#1512
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 19:58 GMT
#1526
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 20:02 GMT
#1528
On August 28 2017 05:00 LightningStrike wrote: Why did you game claim? It was obviously a joke? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 20:11 GMT
#1534
On August 28 2017 05:03 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2017 05:02 Holyflare wrote: On August 28 2017 05:00 LightningStrike wrote: On August 28 2017 04:58 Holyflare wrote: Rayn why did you fake claim? Why did you game claim? It was obviously a joke? Obviously not to me? That's not my problem then lol. It was obvious to everyone else. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 20:12 GMT
#1535
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 20:22 GMT
#1539
you effectively signed my death sentence though | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 20:23 GMT
#1541
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 20:23 GMT
#1543
artanis got called out like 5 times in quick succession lol | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 20:25 GMT
#1544
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=76 like these two pages have artanis dead to rights | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 20:38 GMT
#1548
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 20:50 GMT
#1552
On August 28 2017 05:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2017 05:38 Holyflare wrote: I feel like conversing with you is just a colossal waste of time meant to lead us down stupid places. Well, I hope you feel like shit when I flip town after offering a helping hand. I know I fucked up, just trying to get some redemption. I mean you're welcome to "find the mafia" instead of trying to make us do it when we have? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 21:08 GMT
#1556
i'll find some X | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 21:42 GMT
#1561
On August 28 2017 06:39 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways I found rayn's reasoning for fake claiming cop kinda bullshit tbh but don't think it makes him scum. His play seems townie enough. I think I found X. How can you say it's bull shit but then not think he's scum????????? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 23:22 GMT
#1568
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 27 2017 23:28 GMT
#1569
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 09:15 GMT
#1625
Nothing is more clear than being caught out lying 4 times in 2 pages. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 09:16 GMT
#1626
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 09:45 GMT
#1627
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 10:01 GMT
#1628
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 10:25 GMT
#1629
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 12:17 GMT
#1632
On August 28 2017 19:59 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2017 18:45 Holyflare wrote: Someone who is not voting artanis please explain his lies from a townie perspective. Explain why you or Rayn aren't dead. because rayn claimed parity cop to draw a jk and perhaps they were afraid of wifom? maybe they blue read vivax?? i don't fucking know | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 12:22 GMT
#1633
you have given 0 evidence why artanis is not mafia whatsoever | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 14:05 GMT
#1637
His skynx read. His lack of doing anything and perpetual afk. When he does appear it's to do not much. Geript is up for lynch with koshi (who he doesn't scum read despite there being multiple cases in the thread about it) and he joins the wagon for an arbitrary reason (that was already talked about AT LENGTH). His reads just completely switch to koshi and geript (when does he even mention geript ever???) Then when he's called out by me on his koshi vote choices post lynch he says he only read from page X. I point out that's a lie since my case (that he copied) happened when he said he read. Then he says oh funny coincidence it was page Y. I pointed out that I actually pasted my case again at page Y. So two lies. Then he changes his story for a third time and says maybe he didn't read the thread then and only read koshi's filter. Koshi quoted my case and talked about it in his filter. Then he martyred because he got so easily caught. Someone who has never been lynched as town EVER just martyrs? No. Now he's nowhere to be seen and just drops bs town reads randomly on one guy. Oh also his damdred scum read at deadline which was stronger than his geript one but had no reasoning either. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 14:11 GMT
#1639
Mafia now have to shoot someone else (me likely) now he has a chance to protect that person. It's a poor play really but there are town explanations. I think his play has been markedly different from last game too. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 14:36 GMT
#1645
On August 28 2017 23:28 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2017 23:11 Holyflare wrote: If rayn is a town jailkeeper he's going to assume he's playing well and will get shot. To stop mafia shooting him then he claims a role that will now be protected. Mafia now have to shoot someone else (me likely) now he has a chance to protect that person. It's a poor play really but there are town explanations. I think his play has been markedly different from last game too. So why didn't you get shot? With Rayn drawing the JK, there is 0 risk for mafia to shoot you. However you try to twist it, there's 1 scum between you and Rayn. Because they shot vivax??? Maybe they had a blue read on him since he was, you know, blue. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 14:36 GMT
#1647
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 14:36 GMT
#1649
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:15 GMT
#1663
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:18 GMT
#1666
Maybe also I was on the right track? If you're living in a world where artanis is town and I was the biggest proponent of him being mafia before I switched to koshi then maybe they left me alive? So many possibilities and it's a stupid that you haven't learnt this, what, fourth game of you being wrong in a row making the same arguments? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:18 GMT
#1667
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:19 GMT
#1669
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:20 GMT
#1670
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:20 GMT
#1672
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:21 GMT
#1673
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:25 GMT
#1679
On August 29 2017 00:22 LightningStrike wrote: BTW Today is really my birthday but got class at 2:00 pm CST to 3:20 pm CST dunno how to feel about that lmao. happy birthday | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:27 GMT
#1683
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:30 GMT
#1687
probably not skynx | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:36 GMT
#1690
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:52 GMT
#1694
On August 29 2017 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On August 29 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote: geript/onegu and one of ruxxar/you/skynx imo probably not skynx Why geript? His slot hasn't done anything since he replaced out precisely? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 15:53 GMT
#1695
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 16:02 GMT
#1698
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 17:00 GMT
#1715
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 17:04 GMT
#1717
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 17:07 GMT
#1719
artanis just surrendered lol | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 18:15 GMT
#1736
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 18:32 GMT
#1743
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 19:48 GMT
#1747
Null Skynx - Skynx has done a lot of things that I thought were mafia-like. The mess we've talked about for over 30 pages already describes a lot of it. There's also the association with Geript, where Geript entered the thread without talking about him. I found it odd that he held such a close tab on the vote count without posting too much, but he did actually show face in wanting to lynch me a bit. One thing also in his favour is that I struggle to see him being scum with ruXxar, whom I think is most likely to be scum as the way they both pushed Rayn out of the gate after what happened during N1 is unlikely to both be from scum. What does this mean?? You town read him for it so how does it "describe a lot of it"? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 19:49 GMT
#1748
On August 29 2017 03:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On August 29 2017 03:32 Holyflare wrote: Oats give me your mafia list and a sentence on why they're mafia Hf cause he's not dead Tw cause he's done nothing and is totally uninterested in who is mafia Art cause he's martyring Other people who I'm waffly about Rux is fixated on rayns claim nd can be using that to create content Geript/onegu done nothing Skynx literally cannot remember what he has done. You what now? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 20:22 GMT
#1752
now it's scummy??? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 20:24 GMT
#1754
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 28 2017 20:25 GMT
#1755
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 08:56 GMT
#1783
On August 29 2017 17:35 ruXxar wrote: Pssst. Hey guys. Does this look like a scum train? It's so obvious we're lynching town right now. Each and everyone of you stoners need to get your head checked. 1) Everyone voting the same guy | check. 2) Dead thread | check 3) No counter wagon | check. Do you guys not understand what's going on here? Fucking lazy sheep the whole bunch of you. It's pissing me off so fucking much that you all have your heads stuck up your ass. Fuck it I don't even want to play this game anymore. I'll just be voting myself for the rest of the game. I don't give a shit anymore. If the mafia team is artanis/onegu/x who do you think is going to show face to stop this lynch which already has multiple solid reasons to carry on with? Artanis' list is rife with inconsistencies and you're just whining on about an unCCd JK being lynched lol. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 08:57 GMT
#1784
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 09:00 GMT
#1785
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 12:05 GMT
#1789
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 13:10 GMT
#1791
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 13:41 GMT
#1793
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 13:41 GMT
#1794
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 13:41 GMT
#1795
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 16:54 GMT
#1803
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 16:57 GMT
#1804
Laugh and then lynch him. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 17:08 GMT
#1805
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 29 2017 18:11 GMT
#1816
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 09:16 GMT
#1862
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 09:35 GMT
#1863
I think onegu is probably mafia. Now that artanis has flipped town that brings skynx back to the table. He was trying to wifom about rayn yesterday and his day 1 was scummy. Oats/tw confuse me because their list of mafias contained both myself and artanis which shows a complete lack of understanding about the game at that point. Kind of scummy. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 09:36 GMT
#1864
Damdred is way too free to be mafia. Good reads and damdred feels. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 09:37 GMT
#1865
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 09:42 GMT
#1866
Ruxxar is playing like mafia but he always does so how do you tell when he's actually mafia? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 10:40 GMT
#1868
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 11:00 GMT
#1870
If you say rayn that's fucking stupid. He's getting through because he's an unCCd jailkeeper. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 11:00 GMT
#1871
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 11:23 GMT
#1873
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 11:27 GMT
#1874
If they decide to leave rayn alive and only claim tomorrow I advise that you never believe it. That person would have sat idly by twiddling their thumbs so that rayn could get his lynch to make us decide between himself and rayn. That's bs. Trading 1 for 1 when a parity dies n1 is free mafia. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 11:39 GMT
#1877
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 13:32 GMT
#1883
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 13:51 GMT
#1885
I've completely zoned out. Gf is out tonight so I'll try and reread | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 13:51 GMT
#1886
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 14:10 GMT
#1891
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 14:11 GMT
#1892
On August 30 2017 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i am trying to say is that the best OAts can produce as scumread is that a person "is doing nothing" and even that doesn't apply to all people. Yes his list was absolutely terrible. It had my name in it too with artanis' when I spent the whole day digging into his filter and pushing him. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 14:58 GMT
#1910
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 15:17 GMT
#1922
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 15:17 GMT
#1924
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 15:29 GMT
#1927
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 15:29 GMT
#1928
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 15:32 GMT
#1931
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 16:51 GMT
#1956
On August 31 2017 01:32 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now afk, i am getting angry unnecessarily and i don't feel like playing. And stay afk please. Your report was uncalled for. Your quitting the game too. Rayn didn't do anything wrong. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 16:54 GMT
#1959
Rayn is jailkeeper. Claims parity cop so mafia have to medic dodge him and likely kill me. Jailkeeper rayn is healing me TO SAVE ME and stop the nk with a play. It's really really simple to comprehend. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 16:54 GMT
#1960
On August 31 2017 01:53 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 01:51 Holyflare wrote: On August 31 2017 01:32 LightningStrike wrote: On August 31 2017 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now afk, i am getting angry unnecessarily and i don't feel like playing. And stay afk please. Your report was uncalled for. Your quitting the game too. Rayn didn't do anything wrong. I don't give a shit I don't a fuck. He was an asshole. No he wasn't at all. He just wants to play mafia and you're saying you don't want to play mafia because he questioned you and it was boring. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 17:01 GMT
#1963
On August 31 2017 01:58 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 01:54 Holyflare wrote: Are you stupid? Rayn is jailkeeper. Claims parity cop so mafia have to medic dodge him and likely kill me. Jailkeeper rayn is healing me TO SAVE ME and stop the nk with a play. It's really really simple to comprehend. HOW WOULD MAFIA KNOW RAYN IS FAKE CLAIMING?!!! Holy jesus. Stop making it so obvious you are mafia HF. But its allright. Keep on scum slipping, nobody is going to lift a finger anyway. ???????..???????? . | ||
Holyflare
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August 30 2017 17:01 GMT
#1964
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 17:06 GMT
#1965
On August 31 2017 01:58 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 01:54 Holyflare wrote: On August 31 2017 01:53 LightningStrike wrote: On August 31 2017 01:51 Holyflare wrote: On August 31 2017 01:32 LightningStrike wrote: On August 31 2017 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now afk, i am getting angry unnecessarily and i don't feel like playing. And stay afk please. Your report was uncalled for. Your quitting the game too. Rayn didn't do anything wrong. I don't give a shit I don't a fuck. He was an asshole. No he wasn't at all. He just wants to play mafia and you're saying you don't want to play mafia because he questioned you and it was boring. Please die tonight thanx I've reported you to tl mods. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 17:09 GMT
#1968
On August 31 2017 02:06 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 02:01 Holyflare wrote: What the fuck are you talking about ruxxar? 1) Mafia doesnt know rayn fake claims. They think he is real parity cop. 2) Mafia expect the jailkeeper to save Rayn. 3) You claim Rayn is going to save you from mafia. 4) Somehow mafia knows that rayn is going to save you, so they decide to NOT kill you and kill vivax instead. You just assume step 4. I never ever said that. Step 1 and 2 are what mafia know. Step 3 is what rayn knows. Step 4 you've just made up to fit your narrative. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 17:12 GMT
#1970
Or mafia could have a blue read on vivax. Or vivax could be scum reading mafia. Who the fuck knows what's happening in mafia head? You've forfeited the entire game by your dumb as shit narrative. If you're mafia whatever but if you're town pull your fingers out of your ears. | ||
Holyflare
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August 30 2017 17:14 GMT
#1972
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 30 2017 17:14 GMT
#1973
Why does this make rayn mafia? | ||
Holyflare
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On September 01 2017 15:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2017 15:48 Holyflare wrote: I'm not mafia though, just feel like shit instead. Keep deflecting off onegu though So right now, your onegu lynch is kinda on the ropes because TW wants to lynch me, and ruix and sky want to lynch you. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing particularly. I think mafia ruxxar has quite likely shown a lot of face today. Day 1 he made the skynx assumption that artanis did but ruxxar didn't even know that skynx wasn't scum reading koshi anymore at that point, he said it was irrelevant when I quizzed him on it. This argument is different from artanis' because artanis used the information to form a read whereas ruxxar made no update (and didn't even show hesitancy) after he was proven wrong on his points. On August 26 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 00:10 Holyflare wrote: On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote: HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia". But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. You drunk? He made that conclusion AFTER he concluded koshi wasn't mafia. It's irrelevant nitpicking. NAI imo. (read the chain) Let's also not forget how all ruxxar's points for voting koshi were just sheeps of mine. He called me town at multiple points. He also called rayn town at multiple points and made this post: On August 26 2017 07:20 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 07:18 Tumblewood wrote: On August 26 2017 07:17 ruXxar wrote: On August 26 2017 07:15 Tumblewood wrote: On August 26 2017 07:13 ruXxar wrote: Rayn made a blue claim???!! I thought that was HF claiming cop. i think 2ish pages ago rayn said he was parity cop. hf hard claimed blue at the start of the game but i don't think he's serious. but idk, i tend to wait until the thread catches up to it because i'm really shit with telling whether people are claiming for real or not. Can you quote the post? My mind is kinda... wandering at this point.... On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. pranked! it was actually 4 pages ago ¨ Whatever. I can guarantee you 1 thing tonight 100%. Rayn is going to be alive tomorrow. On August 26 2017 07:21 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2017 07:20 Oatsmaster wrote: On August 26 2017 07:16 Tumblewood wrote: On August 26 2017 07:13 Oatsmaster wrote: On August 26 2017 07:10 Tumblewood wrote: so if i am to trust rayn on oats (and i do because he has apparently played 50 million games with him), i have converged upon a team of geript/hf/art. and outside of that there might be one scum that i am overlooking Explain why HF is mafia pls. i think you have completely misunderstood my process of arriving at that mafia team Ok so if hes mafia there must be something that proves it right? Can you find something that HF has said that makes you think hes mafia? + Show Spoiler + HF is not mafia.. end of story... So why did he spend all of day 2 defending artanis and pissing about saying mafia is definitely within rayn and myself when we were both town reads and he called me basically locked town? It's because it was super easy to fall back on and do nothing. Notice how we come into mylo, where mafia just need one mislynch and instead of following his "hf is mafia if rayn dies and rayn is mafia if hf dies" mantra he just pushes the first wagon he sees on someone he also called town (tw). Just because someone made a case and that's where the prevailing votes were. He didn't once mention me until he got called out and conveniently skynx placed a vote on me (why? Who knows) but now he's all about lynching me despite losing all the mojo beforehand. Dude is mafia. | ||
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There are also multiple people deflecting off him for absolutely no reason (oats/ruxx at least one of which I think is mafia) which is always a good sign. | ||
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I'd really rather no lynch today if you don't want to kill onegu since I'll likely die and then that forces ruxxar/skynx to actually formulate some reads that don't involve preying on me whilst I'm unable to really play. | ||
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On September 01 2017 15:30 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2017 15:29 ruXxar wrote: On September 01 2017 15:15 Oatsmaster wrote: On September 01 2017 15:04 ruXxar wrote: We are 2 people on HF oats. It's all in your hands now. Thats a bit overdramatic No it's not. If we manage to get 3 people on scum before mafia gets 3 people on town, there no way that we can lose. yes but if hf isnt mafia then we lose. Sooooooo Yeahhhh On September 01 2017 15:58 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote ##vote hf just in case shit happens when Im asleep. This is extremely disingenuous. | ||
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On September 01 2017 20:11 Onegu wrote: Like just go look in the most recent newbie where I got killed night 1. Alot of I am reading. catching up. then big post. catching scum. getting NK'd. Was I in that game? | ||
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On September 01 2017 22:20 ruXxar wrote: So I guess I'm not in the game onegu... Omg this is like too perfect. Did he just slip you are teammates and forgot about you?? | ||
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And no it's not a bad reason. Mafia always forget to include partners in things. | ||
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I think skynx is the townie dropping the ball tbh | ||
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I know what I know and I know it to be trueeeee | ||
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On September 01 2017 22:51 Damdred wrote: I dont think that mafia team makes sense, specifixallu the ruxxar part, theres no way he kills rayn there to take his focus away. Rayn is dangerous and will just vote off ruxxar since that was his scum read eventually too? It then enables ruxxar to push a free mislynch on me because of his bs "plan" I don't know why you're not even thinking about this damdred, looks super bad. | ||
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like super super bull shit damdred | ||
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On August 30 2017 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will not believe Damdred is mafia. I will also not believe Skynx is mafia because of what Artanis said and because i had the same conclusion about Skynx' D1, if he did that as mafia when there was Koshi with you pushing him as lynch up, then well played but i just don't think that's true. I have had a townread on Tumblewood but i guess i should reread him too, probably wont change my mind, but i think the EoD 1 of his should be contrasted to his other posts. So basically - i believe there has to be at least 1 mafia between LS and ruxxar. And i am not sure which one that is. Ruxxar is starting to look more and more like too bad to be too bad to be scum, i think he might be overplaying this. Pay a great deal of attention to what he says after the night kill since with 100% certainty one of his scumreads is going to die. | ||
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who is your scum team? | ||
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skynx's change off me onto oats is quite townie because mafia at that point just try and stay on me and hope there's idiot townies left tw seems just as bemused by oats' read intensity/changes as I am so that's a huge + so that leaves onegu/damdred/ruxxar/ls one of you needs to step up and do something good | ||
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i genuinely think him leaving out ruxxar means they're partners, you can hate it if you want I don't really care I just simply don't believe someone trying to make a read post forgets someone out ruxxar's plan is afk and do nothing and not even follow his own plan and jump on any opportune bandwagon possible now, first it's oats on tw and next it's skynx on me I think his plan was overblown and I think at least onegu and ruxxar are a team I forgot oats above but if it's between oats/ls/damdred it's impossible for me to choose. | ||
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what did oats do with ls and why was it strange? | ||
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On September 02 2017 00:15 Damdred wrote: Hes always on the verge of scum reading ls, always in that zone of scum read. Ends up in that ignore category every day even though he keeos wanting to call hin scum and throws shade at him all the time. Always finds someone better to target for the day and after rayn dies doesnt care about pressuring ls at all instead goes for tw. He sort of does the same thing with the geriot slot instead resting on the dont lynch afk in mylo. Which in onegu case i think would lose us the game. got any quotes for that? | ||
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that shit was bs tbh | ||
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why did you wanna lynch tw over everyone else that was doing less? | ||
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Then he got called out for forgetting his dumb as fuck hf is mafia thing. Then he didn't even change till skynx changed. Now he's afk on me? No. That's mafia. Opportunistic as fuck. | ||
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On September 02 2017 03:33 Oatsmaster wrote: Im really struggling with proposing nolynch heavily because if HF dies then we got a pretty big break. That's what i suggested at the start of the day you pleb. | ||
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On September 02 2017 03:32 Skynx wrote: His activity over last few pages doesn't look townie to me. I'm very unlikely to move, I'm pretty certain of this. Okay. | ||
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On September 02 2017 03:37 ruXxar wrote: HF. This is mylo. If I was mafia, do you seriously think I would go after the hardest person to lynch in the game? I could lynch any afk townie and win the game. Why would I even bother looking in your direction if I'm mafia? Because you left yourself in this shit position??? | ||
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You didn't even want to no lynch and see if I get killed. This is the biggest thing that confirmed you as mafia to me. I am extremely extremely likely to get nkd but you try to end it by voting me instead of waiting for the extra info to see if you were wrong. Your thoughts aren't townie, they are lynch whoever you can without looking bad. | ||
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On September 02 2017 03:37 Skynx wrote: If HF is town, he's never getting killed just for the sake of sheer chaos. Even if he's killed, how does that make tomorrows lynch easier? Tbh we don't deserve to win this at this point and if I'm wrong im happy to shake hands, mafia played well. ????????? If I'm killed that makes mafia ruxxar have to play the game and you'll see he's mafia It means you can't do what you're doing and say "oh maybe he's mafia" because i will have flipped town and you'll have to poe harder Removes ? marks. | ||
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On September 02 2017 03:47 Oatsmaster wrote: lets no lynch ##unvote ##vote no lynch Townie. Something funny is going on here. | ||
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Oats has jumped back up. Oats real talk to me about tw. | ||
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On September 02 2017 03:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Wait I dont understand. I thought you said that you want to finish this today, either we get scum or lose, not delay it for another cycle I never said that? I said no lynch because that gives everyone more info. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:00 ruXxar wrote: Please don't no lynch. This gives mafia the power to lynch whoever they want. This fucking mafia guy. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:03 Skynx wrote: you're on ruxxar still... Oh lol | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:05 Tumblewood wrote: hi i'm here. if you wanna nolynch whatever just get everyone on it Why haven't you said a word all day? | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:06 ruXxar wrote: Nolynch is objectively the best option right now. No reason not to. Are you for fucking real. Mafia Mafia Mafia Mafiaaaaaaa | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:08 ruXxar wrote: Use your brain HF. We are in mylo. If we nolynch we lose another town and are in lylo. Our situation is the same but we have more information. YOU JUST SAID TO NOT NO LYNCH AND I CALLED YOU OUT AND NOW YOU'VE CHANGED LOOOOOOOL | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:09 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:00 ruXxar wrote: On September 02 2017 03:47 Oatsmaster wrote: lets no lynch ##unvote ##vote no lynch Please don't no lynch. This gives mafia the power to lynch whoever they want. Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:05 ruXxar wrote: I'm not going to nolynch unless ls/onegu/TW are here. Is the same person playing? Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:06 ruXxar wrote: Nolynch is objectively the best option right now. No reason not to. Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:08 ruXxar wrote: Use your brain HF. We are in mylo. If we nolynch we lose another town and are in lylo. Our situation is the same but we have more information. This game is a fucking travesty for not lynching him. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:10 Holyflare wrote: On September 02 2017 04:09 Oatsmaster wrote: On September 02 2017 04:00 ruXxar wrote: On September 02 2017 03:47 Oatsmaster wrote: lets no lynch ##unvote ##vote no lynch Please don't no lynch. This gives mafia the power to lynch whoever they want. On September 02 2017 04:05 ruXxar wrote: I'm not going to nolynch unless ls/onegu/TW are here. Is the same person playing? On September 02 2017 04:06 ruXxar wrote: Nolynch is objectively the best option right now. No reason not to. On September 02 2017 04:08 ruXxar wrote: Use your brain HF. We are in mylo. If we nolynch we lose another town and are in lylo. Our situation is the same but we have more information. This game is a fucking travesty for not lynching him. I think hes legitimately insane "is he stupid? " yes" See now? He's just mafia dude. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:12 ruXxar wrote: Zzz. Listen up scrubs. The point was that you're spreading yourselves thin. With everyone here agreeing, nolynch is objectively the best play, You're not working your way out of this one. When I die my vengeance will strike you from beyond the grave. My minions will chase you down to the ends of the earth and lynch you. You better kill me because I will never let there be another lynch. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:12 Skynx wrote: No lynch is very pro-town i understand but look at Damdred guys... He posted a list, he has been around. He hasn't voted yet. He got modkilled doing the same thing multiple times | ||
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On September 02 2017 03:40 Holyflare wrote: Like you literally have put yourself in a corner where you can never lynch anyone but me or you look terrible ruxxar. You didn't even want to no lynch and see if I get killed. This is the biggest thing that confirmed you as mafia to me. I am extremely extremely likely to get nkd but you try to end it by voting me instead of waiting for the extra info to see if you were wrong. Your thoughts aren't townie, they are lynch whoever you can without looking bad. Can we just fucking lynch ruxxar? | ||
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Not one of you has said anything you all just brush things aside and do not much. The dude is just mafia. Plain as day. He adapts to whatever the fuck sentiment is at the time today. That's mafia mylo 101. Like there is nothing more quintessential mafia mylo than that. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:30 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:27 Holyflare wrote: I am going to write a comprehensive ruxxar case and you WILL 100% sheep it next cycle. No questions asked. You won't alive tomorrow. Yes, that's why I'm telling people to sheep me. | ||
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My reputation of late game all kills is for a reason. | ||
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pretty damn unwell but you can just read his filter will try and get something out but judging by his posts last night it's unlikely he'll shoot me | ||
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On August 31 2017 00:14 ruXxar wrote: Here's a simple flowchart for you people who have trouble figuring things out. With this little secret, you too can be a master scum hunter. After the night kill, is Rayn dead? No: Vote Rayn. Yes: Vote HF. You can thank me later. On August 31 2017 05:44 ruXxar wrote: What do you mean what now? My flowchart was very clear. Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 00:14 ruXxar wrote: Here's a simple flowchart for you people who have trouble figuring things out. With this little secret, you too can be a master scum hunter. After the night kill, is Rayn dead? No: Vote Rayn. Yes: Vote HF. You can thank me later. Just remember how disingenuous these type of posts are. As mafia he controls all the night kills and so knows who is going to die and who doesn't. About 90% of his posts rely on some type of NK comment posts, especially day 2 with rayn and myself. (Possibly setup for a team mate CCing?) Then, with the above post in mind look at how he approaches day two. With the confirmed thought and aggressive pushes of day 2 you think that I'd instantly be a vote for him straight away right? I've basically confirmed myself somehow in his twisted little narrative. Take into consideration that with the 8 players alive there are 5 town and 3 mafia. If there are split wagons then all it takes is essentially 1-2 stray townie votes on another townie for mafia to jump on and town to instantly lose the game. Now, with that in mind what is mafia's intention in mylo? The answer is to push any mislynch that they possibly can. So, Ruxxar has been gunning for me, he's gonna vote me easily right? Wrong. On August 31 2017 14:48 ruXxar wrote: Alright, let's lynch TW. I'm convinced he's mafia. His language and demeanor is so scummy I can't ignore it. ##vote tumblewood The wagon on Tumblewood started with oats and was gaining steam, not much else was talked about and (remember all mafia has to do is get a mislynch or at least start multiple wagons) and who did Ruxxar vote? His leading confirmed mafia? No? It was Tumblewood, conveniently as he was getting ahead in the votes. On August 31 2017 18:03 ruXxar wrote: Lynch TW with us. he also talked to me to tell me to vote tumblewood, instead of calling me mafia he wanted me to join him on tumblewood, he forgot about pushing me completely Then guess what happened? On August 31 2017 17:23 Holyflare wrote: As if ruxxar is voting not me after spouting his useless case for 2 days straight. he got called out and then Skynx made some dumb as shit vote on me and guess what? He suddenly remembered he scum read me just out of the blue like that, just as a wagon started on me he conveniently remembered it On September 01 2017 02:46 Skynx wrote: ##Vote: Holyflare On September 01 2017 15:03 ruXxar wrote: ##unvote ##vote holyflare On September 01 2017 15:02 ruXxar wrote: *Yawn* You know what, I rather lose the game voting the guy I think is the most mafia. I'm switching back to HF. ##vote holyflare extremely convenient uh-huh guess what I was preaching all at the start of the cycle though? On September 01 2017 16:23 Holyflare wrote: I don't know about the last mafia. I'm really tempted to say oats because he picks Tumblewood as mafia for not doing/saying much but ignores ruxxar/onegu/ls/skynx/damdred who all practically did the identical thing. He also started putting in work to get tw lynched out of all of these people just when mylo was about to hit which I don't know how to take. Usually more effort near the end of the game is mafia-y but with this low activity who the fuck knows. I'd really rather no lynch today if you don't want to kill onegu since I'll likely die and then that forces ruxxar/skynx to actually formulate some reads that don't involve preying on me whilst I'm unable to really play. On September 02 2017 03:40 Holyflare wrote: Like you literally have put yourself in a corner where you can never lynch anyone but me or you look terrible ruxxar. You didn't even want to no lynch and see if I get killed. This is the biggest thing that confirmed you as mafia to me. I am extremely extremely likely to get nkd but you try to end it by voting me instead of waiting for the extra info to see if you were wrong. Your thoughts aren't townie, they are lynch whoever you can without looking bad. Please read the above. That is me talking to ruxxar, it's so true that he could have easily no lynched and seen if I'd die to confirm his theory and we'd also get another 72 hours to talk things through and instead he'd rather try and instantly win the game as mafia by lynching me, it's so unbelievably scummy his response is that we definitely shouldn't no lynch ever: On September 02 2017 02:24 ruXxar wrote: I'm not switching off HF, and that's my final statement. On September 02 2017 04:00 ruXxar wrote: Please don't no lynch. This gives mafia the power to lynch whoever they want. but then remember deadline? I call for a no lynch and then oats does the townie thing and switches to no lync (+++ oats points) and he claims it's in mafia's favour and he's not going to do it REMEMBER THIS PLZ Then suddenly he realises the play is to do a no lynch and everyone is doing it and what the fuck does he do??? He goes straight into blatantly following thread sentiment On September 02 2017 04:06 ruXxar wrote: Nolynch is objectively the best option right now. No reason not to. On September 02 2017 04:08 ruXxar wrote: Use your brain HF. We are in mylo. If we nolynch we lose another town and are in lylo. Our situation is the same but we have more information. REMEMBER HOW BULL SHIT THIS IS BECAUSE I SAID WE SHOULD DO THIS EARLIER SO I DIE AND HE HAS TO PLAY AND HE SAID NO On September 02 2017 04:09 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:07 Skynx wrote: Cool, let's no lynch. We got at least 5 atm. Alright, I'm going for it. On September 02 2017 04:15 ruXxar wrote: Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: No lynching is best because it gives us more time to figure who we want to lynch and the night kill might give us more information. Smart. On September 02 2017 04:31 ruXxar wrote: It's quite simple. If HF doesn't die tonight, he's scum. now he's back with this mafia controlling nk bull shit if I die or don't die (which is likely for his bs narrative) then please for the ever loving fuck of christ lynch this guy I will literally have an aneurysm if you do not because it is CLEAR mafia agenda kill the mafia plz! | ||
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tw i think has been saying good things or at least he's been trying to buddy me by agreeing with me so I dunno about that onegu's list is bugging me now because I remember he made a video as mafia so don't necessarily just auto lock him town | ||
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On September 03 2017 05:56 ruXxar wrote: The best move is obviously to nolynch again. Its mafia that has to make the first move here. No need to rush anything. ##Vote nolynch so i'm not mafia anymore huhhhh? convenient | ||
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You're just going to perpetuate this game ad nauseam and not nk me forever. I know it already. You literally haven't said a single word about me or ANYONE being mafia. You claim you're all for no lynching to get more information but you haven't done a single thing useful with it or made points on why anyone else is mafia like you purport you could have. Backtracking is unbelievable. | ||
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On September 03 2017 17:10 Onegu wrote: Would like to lynch today. And finish this game... Can we lynch LS or Damdred? Absolutely mafia for not lynching ruxxar after that case. | ||
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It's pathetic and anyone voting no lynch doesn't have a clue what they're talking about. Like it's quite ridiculous for you to say I'm confirmed mafia AND that we should wait for a night kill for more information. That just highlights that you: A) Don't really think I'm mafia because lynching me in your world would net you -1 mafia and take us out of mylo. Also allowing you to draw conclusions about other people. B) Don't care about figuring out the game at all because now that your tune has changed to nk gives us the most info you haven't once decided to formulate any mafia teams around me being mafia. It's quite clear you can't even coherently call me mafia. It's abundantly clear that you are just trying to follow thread sentiment to do nothing and blend in. It's excruciatingly clear that you're mafia. Please vote this guy so we can stop wasting our time. Not only will it kill a mafia but it will propel me so far up the town scale that they'll be forced to kill me and you'll all feel a little bit better next cycle. | ||
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On September 03 2017 04:27 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 00:14 ruXxar wrote: Here's a simple flowchart for you people who have trouble figuring things out. With this little secret, you too can be a master scum hunter. After the night kill, is Rayn dead? No: Vote Rayn. Yes: Vote HF. You can thank me later. Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 05:44 ruXxar wrote: On August 31 2017 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote: What now rux?!?? What do you mean what now? My flowchart was very clear. On August 31 2017 00:14 ruXxar wrote: Here's a simple flowchart for you people who have trouble figuring things out. With this little secret, you too can be a master scum hunter. After the night kill, is Rayn dead? No: Vote Rayn. Yes: Vote HF. You can thank me later. Just remember how disingenuous these type of posts are. As mafia he controls all the night kills and so knows who is going to die and who doesn't. About 90% of his posts rely on some type of NK comment posts, especially day 2 with rayn and myself. (Possibly setup for a team mate CCing?) Then, with the above post in mind look at how he approaches day two. With the confirmed thought and aggressive pushes of day 2 you think that I'd instantly be a vote for him straight away right? I've basically confirmed myself somehow in his twisted little narrative. Take into consideration that with the 8 players alive there are 5 town and 3 mafia. If there are split wagons then all it takes is essentially 1-2 stray townie votes on another townie for mafia to jump on and town to instantly lose the game. Now, with that in mind what is mafia's intention in mylo? The answer is to push any mislynch that they possibly can. So, Ruxxar has been gunning for me, he's gonna vote me easily right? Wrong. Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 14:48 ruXxar wrote: Alright, let's lynch TW. I'm convinced he's mafia. His language and demeanor is so scummy I can't ignore it. ##vote tumblewood The wagon on Tumblewood started with oats and was gaining steam, not much else was talked about and (remember all mafia has to do is get a mislynch or at least start multiple wagons) and who did Ruxxar vote? His leading confirmed mafia? No? It was Tumblewood, conveniently as he was getting ahead in the votes. Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 18:03 ruXxar wrote: On August 31 2017 17:33 Holyflare wrote: No lynch or onegu today imo Lynch TW with us. he also talked to me to tell me to vote tumblewood, instead of calling me mafia he wanted me to join him on tumblewood, he forgot about pushing me completely Then guess what happened? Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 17:23 Holyflare wrote: As if ruxxar is voting not me after spouting his useless case for 2 days straight. he got called out and then Skynx made some dumb as shit vote on me and guess what? He suddenly remembered he scum read me just out of the blue like that, just as a wagon started on me he conveniently remembered it Show nested quote + On September 01 2017 15:02 ruXxar wrote: *Yawn* You know what, I rather lose the game voting the guy I think is the most mafia. I'm switching back to HF. ##vote holyflare extremely convenient uh-huh guess what I was preaching all at the start of the cycle though? Show nested quote + On September 01 2017 16:23 Holyflare wrote: I don't know about the last mafia. I'm really tempted to say oats because he picks Tumblewood as mafia for not doing/saying much but ignores ruxxar/onegu/ls/skynx/damdred who all practically did the identical thing. He also started putting in work to get tw lynched out of all of these people just when mylo was about to hit which I don't know how to take. Usually more effort near the end of the game is mafia-y but with this low activity who the fuck knows. I'd really rather no lynch today if you don't want to kill onegu since I'll likely die and then that forces ruxxar/skynx to actually formulate some reads that don't involve preying on me whilst I'm unable to really play. Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 03:40 Holyflare wrote: Like you literally have put yourself in a corner where you can never lynch anyone but me or you look terrible ruxxar. You didn't even want to no lynch and see if I get killed. This is the biggest thing that confirmed you as mafia to me. I am extremely extremely likely to get nkd but you try to end it by voting me instead of waiting for the extra info to see if you were wrong. Your thoughts aren't townie, they are lynch whoever you can without looking bad. Please read the above. That is me talking to ruxxar, it's so true that he could have easily no lynched and seen if I'd die to confirm his theory and we'd also get another 72 hours to talk things through and instead he'd rather try and instantly win the game as mafia by lynching me, it's so unbelievably scummy his response is that we definitely shouldn't no lynch ever: Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 02:24 ruXxar wrote: I'm not switching off HF, and that's my final statement. Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:00 ruXxar wrote: On September 02 2017 03:47 Oatsmaster wrote: lets no lynch ##unvote ##vote no lynch Please don't no lynch. This gives mafia the power to lynch whoever they want. but then remember deadline? I call for a no lynch and then oats does the townie thing and switches to no lync (+++ oats points) and he claims it's in mafia's favour and he's not going to do it REMEMBER THIS PLZ Then suddenly he realises the play is to do a no lynch and everyone is doing it and what the fuck does he do??? He goes straight into blatantly following thread sentiment Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:06 ruXxar wrote: Nolynch is objectively the best option right now. No reason not to. Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:08 ruXxar wrote: Use your brain HF. We are in mylo. If we nolynch we lose another town and are in lylo. Our situation is the same but we have more information. REMEMBER HOW BULL SHIT THIS IS BECAUSE I SAID WE SHOULD DO THIS EARLIER SO I DIE AND HE HAS TO PLAY AND HE SAID NO Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:09 ruXxar wrote: On September 02 2017 04:07 Skynx wrote: Cool, let's no lynch. We got at least 5 atm. Alright, I'm going for it. Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:15 ruXxar wrote: On September 02 2017 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: No lynching is best because it gives us more time to figure who we want to lynch and the night kill might give us more information. Smart. Show nested quote + On September 02 2017 04:31 ruXxar wrote: It's quite simple. If HF doesn't die tonight, he's scum. now he's back with this mafia controlling nk bull shit if I die or don't die (which is likely for his bs narrative) then please for the ever loving fuck of christ lynch this guy I will literally have an aneurysm if you do not because it is CLEAR mafia agenda kill the mafia plz! Wake the fuck up, sheeple. | ||
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On September 02 2017 03:40 Holyflare wrote: Like you literally have put yourself in a corner where you can never lynch anyone but me or you look terrible ruxxar. You didn't even want to no lynch and see if I get killed. This is the biggest thing that confirmed you as mafia to me. I am extremely extremely likely to get nkd but you try to end it by voting me instead of waiting for the extra info to see if you were wrong. Your thoughts aren't townie, they are lynch whoever you can without looking bad. If you read just one thing this game please make it be this post. Now look at everything ruxxar is saying. He didn't change his mind AT ALL after I posted this. He only did it when sentiment was to no lynch. Now look at everything he is writing today and notics how disingenuous and bs it is. | ||
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Then magically it became a good idea. Now today when I should become your top lynch you just follow everyone else and say it was the best idea. You say we should consolidate on what town wants but i posted to no lynch yesterday BEFORE there was even a wagon. Aka your stance now is so unbelievably bull shit. | ||
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On September 04 2017 01:53 LightningStrike wrote: Anyhow Damdred what is your thoughgts on HF's case if you are here? what are YOUR thoughts?? | ||
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On September 04 2017 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On September 04 2017 01:20 Holyflare wrote: can we have a vote to get rid of no lynches and no kills? ^ On September 04 2017 01:53 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On September 04 2017 01:20 Holyflare wrote: can we have a vote to get rid of no lynches and no kills? I fine with getting rid of one of the options but i thoguht it was dumb that mafia can no shoot if town goes for a no lynch. town | ||
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On September 04 2017 02:36 Fecalfeast wrote: Vote Count
Non-voters (3): LightningStrike, Tumblewood, Damdred Currently, nobody is set to be lynched. Deadline is in (at Tuesday, Aug 29 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). towniest wagon of the game right here | ||
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On September 01 2017 15:02 ruXxar wrote: *Yawn* You know what, I rather lose the game voting the guy I think is the most mafia. I'm switching back to HF. ##vote holyflare On September 02 2017 02:24 ruXxar wrote: I'm not switching off HF, and that's my final statement. On September 02 2017 04:00 ruXxar wrote: Please don't no lynch. This gives mafia the power to lynch whoever they want. | ||
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or post seals | ||
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which absolutely nobody in this game is doing | ||
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On September 04 2017 05:15 Tumblewood wrote: Show nested quote + On September 04 2017 05:08 Holyflare wrote: have i gone to loony land or what the fuck is this game it would explain why oats is agreeing with you on ruxxar, which makes a lot more sense in an onegu/oats/you team than onegu/oats/rux. lynch onegu or maybe it makes more sense because it's so fucking obvious? | ||
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On September 04 2017 05:05 Holyflare wrote: name a single scum read ruxxar has that isn't based on nk wifom or that's me | ||
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Just look at his interactions with me today. Doesn't even call me mafia. Stark contrast to HOLYFLARE IS CONFIRMED WITH RAYN, no? | ||
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So, I will lynch ruxxar with oats. If none of you join that's on you. If mafia don't switch to him at the end of the cycle then maybe you'll open your eyes then. If that's what it takes then so be it. | ||
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On September 02 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote: Right now I feel like this is my status quo: Mafia: HF/TW. Town: Oats, Onegu. Townish: Damdred. Scummish: LS Null: Skynx Let us not forget. On September 03 2017 21:53 ruXxar wrote: What changed HF. We are the the same situation today as we were yesterday. Why do you suddenly not want to no-lynch when you so strongly wanted to yesterday? | ||
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And some people still don't want to lynch him right now :D | ||
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On September 04 2017 09:11 ruXxar wrote: Why so desperate HF? We're about to bust your scum team, and all you can do is try to end the game before its too late. No wonder you dont want to no-lynch. It's not desperate. It's just highlighting the massive obvious discrepancies between what you've actually said and what you're now saying when you're backed into a corner. Nothing is more obvious to me than you being mafia. | ||
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On September 04 2017 15:40 ruXxar wrote: ##unvote ##vote ruxxar The baby seals are coming guys. It will be glorious. | ||
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The he says mafia are on the ropes which is dumb to say if he's town because mafia would just be winning? That just means he's mafia and that's why they're on the ropes. | ||
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Literally right here. Last cycle. On September 02 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote: Right now I feel like this is my status quo: Mafia: HF/TW. Town: Oats, Onegu. Townish: Damdred. Scummish: LS Null: Skynx Now somehow he forgot about it and oats and onegu were in question. Now today he mystically had both of them as scum reads!!! Nothing changed. Nothing!!! | ||
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I'm also still not mafia. | ||
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But in the world you're speaking in you seem to not think ruxxar is mafia. But you're also voting him. Why? | ||
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On September 05 2017 03:23 Skynx wrote: When she faked to give up when you went female vomit or whatever it was. She didn't fake to give up? She was genuinely angry. | ||
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On September 05 2017 03:43 ruXxar wrote: The fact that onegu didnt even read HFs filter is my biggest issue with him. YOU TOWN READ HIM AFTER HE POSTED THIS. THIS IS SO DISINGENUOUS | ||
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On September 05 2017 03:43 ruXxar wrote: The fact that onegu didnt even read HFs filter is my biggest issue with him. Read the timestamps!!!!! On September 01 2017 20:07 Onegu wrote: [...] HF TBH I didnt read his filter... If he is still alive after tonight then I will look at him. He basiclly lead the lynch the last 2 days and lynched town. On September 02 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote: Right now I feel like this is my status quo: Mafia: HF/TW. Town: Oats, Onegu. Townish: Damdred. Scummish: LS Null: Skynx On September 05 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote: If everyone posted their scum pool, I think we could get a lot of information that could help us determine peoples alignments. I'll start: Mafia: HF. TW. LS/Onegu. On September 05 2017 03:43 ruXxar wrote: The fact that onegu didnt even read HFs filter is my biggest issue with him. If you can sit there with a straight face and tell me this guy is not mafia then I will quit mafia for good. | ||
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Read that post and tell me. | ||
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Why??? Read the fucking posts jesus christ. | ||
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This is like slam fucking dunk and the lynch is THIS hard!!! It's so beyond me I don't understand. Has everyone been hit by a fucking retard stick? | ||
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On September 05 2017 04:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On September 05 2017 04:16 Holyflare wrote: http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=127#2536 This is like slam fucking dunk and the lynch is THIS hard!!! It's so beyond me I don't understand. Has everyone been hit by a fucking retard stick? Well assuming 3 of the people not voting for rux are mafia, then there is only one townie If just one of the people on the ruxxar wagon is mafia bussing they just switch to no lynch and it's another 72 hours of this complete farce of a game. | ||
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At least they'll finally kill me though. | ||
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On September 05 2017 04:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On September 05 2017 04:21 Holyflare wrote: Come get free town credit over on this here wagon. Its not really free though, he has to be complicit in killing his teammate. I was lying to make him feel at ease. Don't tell him though. | ||
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On September 05 2017 04:23 Damdred wrote: i will trust in you today hf, if i survive will you trust me tommorow in going on tw or onegu if we both live? I do what I want. | ||
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On August 26 2017 08:04 Vivax wrote: The reason HF is scummy is that he's mostly just finding anything he can to push people with very little town hunting besides it. Basically if thread sentiment switches, he could just write a bunch of lines on anyone he said "looks good" previously (cause that's the best reason you're gonna get from his TRs) and vote them anyway without repercussions. He isn't POEing or anything or have townreads he really has to commit to. Damdred warm fuzzy feeling is BS and if Damdred isn't posting within the next 18 hours tomorrow we might see HF write that Damdred has fucked off and he would kill him . The definitive catch mafia hf guide btw. Also you were right, I did claim Mafia at the start :p | ||
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