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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 27 2017 04:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't mean the votes, i mean the fact that mafia can never lynch Damdred or Koshi if you turn up mafia and the rest of your reads are "idk". And that's your last will. That's a fair point. I'm not in the game as well as I'd like to be :/ | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 27 2017 04:46 Skynx wrote: Wouldn't be my fault if you were dumb enough to do that. My theory is that you get endgame towncred for that last will knowing you won't get lynched. Only Oats was online who was off wagon. He wasn't gona switch he was suggesting Koshi lynch all along so you knew there was no shennanies. The red line talks to me like you clearly believe my story and don't even doubt it. The green line is a theory that is completely opposed to it. What the fuck? | ||
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On August 27 2017 04:52 Skynx wrote: Such an irrelevant question. I still think Art is mafia, in case someone wakes up we lynch mafia. I knew koshi was town when he didn't defend. So only mafia shows up to defend themselves from a lynch. Got it. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZnOM5kl.gif) | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 27 2017 04:41 Skynx wrote: It's not rocket science, i was 4th vote then TW voted 3 mins to go. Just a quick question to everyone else: Did you know who was going to get lynched? | ||
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On August 27 2017 05:02 Skynx wrote: The fact that Koshi was on 5 votes was available for past 2.5 hours, me being the last one on you with 30 mins to go also known to everyone around on EoD. Needed 2 people and only TW showed up. Your reaction is fake. Pls shush. Town are talking. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 27 2017 05:04 Skynx wrote: It's irrelevant, information was there with 5 minutes to go. It's not irrelevant. If all the townies had no idea and people had so much trouble keeping track, it's very interesting that you were so on top of it. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 27 2017 04:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Though Skynx isn't that likely to be scum unless Geript is scum. Me and Koshi both being town means the only reason he'd be highly interested in the vote count as mafia is if Geript is scum. On August 27 2017 04:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The red line talks to me like you clearly believe my story and don't even doubt it. The green line is a theory that is completely opposed to it. What the fuck? Input on this pls guys? | ||
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On August 27 2017 05:11 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure if skynx being scum guarantees the geript slot as scum. The geript wagon had started to fall apart even before I really started the push on you art. Like rayn jumped off to rux (not a bad vote probably), and then onto you with me and ls. So I don't think geript was an actual option near eod. Though it is super interesting If the geript slot is scum how certain people cared so little around eod when he got safe. Looking at the timestamps you're correct in votes. Were people talking about lynching Geript anyway though leading up to it? Haven't gone through it in detail yet. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 27 2017 17:34 Holyflare wrote: It should be quite obvious why people off koshi are scummy though. The koshi train had legit points that I've argued and not one person countered them with anything whatsoever. Blanket "oh I think koshi is town though" statements are so so bull shit and disingenuous. The wagon had pure reasons, koshi was a shitter but yet people still were hesitant for 0 explained reasons. Koshi is a ridiculously hars person to push when he's town and the mafia know it. That's why I'm looking at people who didn't vote him. This is the rels 2.0 lynch. To be fair, I normally am too. Us both being afk near EoD made either of our lynches a lot easier. | ||
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On August 27 2017 17:51 Holyflare wrote: The people on koshi were on him for at least half a cycle so not particularly true. Mm, fair. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Votes are only truly interesting if Geript is mafia imo (though that's knowing I'm town of course). If he is, the following happened: Vote Count
Non-voters (3): LightningStrike, Damdred, Tumblewood We have a realistic lynch on geript here. Oats unvotes Tumble to vote for Koshi, putting him at 4. LS then votes for Geript, which makes me feel it's unlikely they're scum together. I don't believe LS plans ahead enough to vote his scumbuddy only to unvote him later. HF then vote/unvotes Geript to vote Koshi (which he intended to vote in the first place), and LS follows to unvote Geript, presumably because he seems to be replacing out. Skynx does the same which puts the nail in the coffin for that potentiality. Skynx was the second person on the Geript lynch though, so in the end it doesn't pull me one way or the other. Conclusion: Oats likely together with Geript, LS likely not with Geript if Geript is mafia. On August 26 2017 20:10 Skynx wrote: Cuz you are so lost in this game you have no idea what you're doing. When did this change again and why, Skynxy? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 28 2017 00:09 ruXxar wrote: I don't understand something here. Why is damdred lock scum, while all the other people you mentioned are null, townish or whatnot. It doesn't seem to me like your reason for scum reading damdred is any stronger than the reasons you have given for any of your other "maybe" people. Honestly a lot of that was OMGUS. I felt like it was clear that my switch from Skynx to either Koshi or Geript makes no sense from a mafia perspective. I could understand a few players that don't know me as well and/or tunnel quickly (hi Rayn) to not analyze that properly, but I have a lot of respect for Damdred's ability to analyze. It just felt like something that he should pick up on. That and I just was at a place where I was quite clueless about the game. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 28 2017 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Artanis did the classic Titanic-Vivax thing: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tFZrhQa.jpg) False. This was the last time I indicated Geript was my top scumread: On August 26 2017 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think Geript is the most likely to be mafia atm, but I need to actually read the content I missed at work to give you any more than that. Before that, this was. On August 25 2017 15:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presumably because he believes everyone's already said what there is to be said about Skynx. Kinda why I view the whole Geript is scum because he didn't talk about Skynx argument to be NAI. What I don't like about Geript is how he votes Koshi and calls him mafia in the first post about him, but then just proceeds to call everything "pretty odd" "weird" and a lot of other words that don't say "scum". Reminds me of how Marv got caught as scum once. Which was earlier than the reasons I gave for Koshi being scum: On August 26 2017 20:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote: This is the first time he mentioned HF possibly being scum. Since then, he's mentioned HF like this: gl hf bois. I think I am at least 2/3 right. HF is pretty certain mafia. He has been horribly shitty last couple of games (correct readwise (and compared to me)) but I think this is beyond that. Punish the mafia. I really think I am very right. Maybe rayn is mafia as well. But I don't think he is. So do not lynch Skynx/Artanis in future days when I am lynched. Go for geript/ruxx and hf. I truly hope some of you quote this post a couple times in future days. On August 26 2017 00:34 Koshi wrote: I am just mafia bullshitting bro. No worries. On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote: Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. So don't trust them lol. (I repeat: HF is probably mafia this game. Whenever I say things like this it is because I work in a "what if" world) I am without doubt the best D1 reader. No doubt. I am telling you the lynch needs to be within geript/HF/Ruxxar. I am telling you Skynx is town for now. Do not touch him D1. There are no longer mafia left that could be his partner. I am super against an Artanis lynch as 4th option. But he is more likely town for his play today. However, I can see the "underwhelming" lynch be tempting. 2/3 mafia is with Ruxx/HF/Geript. I know it is true. Literally 0 explanation for his scumread.[/QUOTE] | ||
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On August 28 2017 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't believe you. Sure it is possible but i do not believe you. During the time you had this "thought" you did: Skynx townread then rayn not so town anymore. Some arguing with Holyflare. Ruxxar town read. Some random things on Oats. Scumread on geript. (note that all the stuff on Koshi has happened at this point). Random things on Vivax. More defending on Skynx. Arguing with Holyflare (no conclusions). Then, the read on Skynx. Now before the actual scumread on Skynx (or where you say you need to read his filter, there is over 19 hours, and about 50% of your filter. You literally didn't do anything proactive during that time, you werent focused on Skynx because you didn't have a scumread on Skynx. Apparently your scumreads on geript and Koshi are from that time, yet you didn't do ANYTHING to get those reads out into the thread, and did basically EVERYTHING that was not getting those reads out into the thread. Only when it started mattering, aka we are lynching one of those two people, you started caring, and even then you made a very irrational choice at that time. So no, i don't believe your explanation. I wasn't scumreading Koshi back then. Just because I was in the thread arguing with people doesn't mean I was caught up. That happened again earlier. Even if my top scumread of Geript was after Koshi made all those posts, that doesn't mean I actually had read those posts. Koshi being scum just made sense to me when I filtered him during the catchup I did yesterday morning. It's also hard to focus on the actual game when all you're doing is defending yourself from scumreads. I don't have the time to do both and I'm wired to defend myself first. | ||
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