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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 08:58 GMT
#356
And geript ACTUALLY posted a townie seal, why is he even up for discussion. 100 % confirmed town. No, 90% for adding a lot of text I will read later. But it really wasn't necessary with the seal.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 09:21 GMT
#365
On August 25 2017 18:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 17:58 Vivax wrote:
And geript ACTUALLY posted a townie seal, why is he even up for discussion. 100 % confirmed town. No, 90% for adding a lot of text I will read later. But it really wasn't necessary with the seal.


Has he ever posted it before?


No idea but the idea is so abstruse to think of as mafia that I have to take it at face value.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 20:35 GMT
#708
On August 25 2017 23:54 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 19:02 Koshi wrote:
Oatsmaster, Ruxxar, Geript

I think I am lynching into this. If town wants Skynx it will be without my support.


Mafia.



On August 25 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
I've read the thread.

Only solid read is that skynx is town.
I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did.




Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone?


For the same reason that skynx did.


On August 25 2017 04:53 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 06:34 Koshi wrote:
Hello my Minions. Your master will be doing a 1 page filter D1. He is planning on making 3 big quality posts and around 15 "fluff" posts but only when he politely is asked a question or feels like barking a question. Good Minions know that the great leader should be followed, and even naughty Minions know to at least sheep the master his list. Evil Minions will be dealt with. Swiftly and without mercy.

Your leader has spoken. Hail to the great leader.

(Generic 3)
Koshi posts gameplans as mafia

##Vote: Koshi



???
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 20:41 GMT
#709
I'm really paranoid of HF already. Will try to find a way to sum it all up into words at some point.

Don't like Koshi wagon.

Don't like Ruxxar's filter so far either cause he just made up a shit reason to pile up on Koshi.

Oats list is all backwards, props and townie points to TW for noticing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 20:45 GMT
#711
I want to murder Ruxxar instead of Skynx I think. He's getting it all wrong and just piling bs upon bs,
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 20:57 GMT
#713
On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him.


This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT

, it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway.

What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread?


Instead we get:

Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS.

Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial".

Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that.

When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 21:26 GMT
#720
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.


On August 26 2017 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.

Ok so if geript is mafia and TW is town, its an easy push for geript to not lock himself out from.

If geript is mafia and TW is mafia, geript just posted a totally unconvincing townread just so he, one vote, doesnt have to vote TW at the end of the day. There are many better things that he can do to end up with his vote on someone thats town. So this doesnt make sense to me.


If geript is town then hes just playing the game as he sees it.

From my perspective, the most likely situation is that geript is town.

Why is the bolded section scummy Skynx? how does that advance mafia objectives?


???
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 21:31 GMT
#721
On August 26 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 05:45 Vivax wrote:
I want to murder Ruxxar instead of Skynx I think. He's getting it all wrong and just piling bs upon bs,

I think you're bad then. Ruxxar getting it all wrong doesnt make him mafia.


Well it's not a believable kind of wrong.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 21:59 GMT
#746
On August 26 2017 06:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.


On August 26 2017 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.

Ok so if geript is mafia and TW is town, its an easy push for geript to not lock himself out from.

If geript is mafia and TW is mafia, geript just posted a totally unconvincing townread just so he, one vote, doesnt have to vote TW at the end of the day. There are many better things that he can do to end up with his vote on someone thats town. So this doesnt make sense to me.


If geript is town then hes just playing the game as he sees it.

From my perspective, the most likely situation is that geript is town.

Why is the bolded section scummy Skynx? how does that advance mafia objectives?


???

Whats the problem?
Geripts townread on TW was bad lol but it doesnt make him mafia for reasons that I explain in this very post...


So your conclusion is that a bad townread on a scummy person is always a townie thing?

Cause that's what it boils down to and it's an awful conclusion. Insert "X has a totally unconvincing townread on someone I think is mafia and that makes him always town". You could apply it to anyone, not just geript.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 22:46 GMT
#836
HF can be mafia this game. I don't believe his hard on on Koshi, and I don't believe that he would actually believe that

On August 26 2017 07:26 Holyflare wrote:
koshi/tw/someonelike60%ofplayersinthisgame


so many people don't deserve a townread already.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 22:47 GMT
#837
Just another thing to add to the list Ruxxar said that don't make sense (HF is town, pls believe me. Bitch pls)

Oats read on geript is bad but besides berating him I don't think it makes him necessarily mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 22:48 GMT
#840
On August 26 2017 07:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im pretty ambivalent to lynch skynx.
Rayn you wanna convince me?

not really no, if you can't read what's been written then your vote is prolly a no go, which is why i said we lose this game. too many townies in a wrong place.

I mean, I dont think hes scummier than art/vivax/ls/tw/koshi so theres that.


Pretty sure your list is all town. Gratz. I'm not 100 % sure on Art and TW but LS, Koshi, me are very likely all town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 22:51 GMT
#843
And I hope Ruxxar is male otherwise I wouldn't say bitch please.

On August 26 2017 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote skynx


I'll back this vote for ego bonus as well since his Koshi push looked fishy and one-sided.

I'm at something like HF/Ruxx/Skynx atm.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 22:56 GMT
#846
On August 26 2017 07:50 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 07:33 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:32 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
TW doesnt find mafia, he finds town until there are 3 people and then he calls them all mafia.

precisely


No. That smiley face aint good enough.
Give me some real thoughts on where your head is at.

the problem is apparently all of my thoughts are fake thoughts


Says who?

Dont mind those fuckers..

Just lay your thoughts out there.. and the truth will come to bear.

i like vivax post 160, hf post 404, skynx post 461, and your post 527. (i forgot what those posts were, but i wrote them down so they must be important somehow). i also liked the post by you i quoted and said townie
damdred is hedging like i would expect him to as town. that said i don't think i've ever played with scum!damdred. speaking of which, where is damdred?
ls is town puppy. i think i am mostly in agreement with thread sentiment here so i won't spend to long explaining it. and now that i think about it i haven't played with scum!ls either. whatever
rayn claimed parity cop and i have no reason yet to distrust it
artanis is making a lot of unimportant posts. not irrelevant, but no clear direction.
oats annoys me, because he is playing like the site meta is 2014, but the year is 2017 and i am a very newfangled player. his posting seems like i would expect from someone who has been gone for a long time, and i am not used to reading that. rayn says he is town so i will sheep rayn for now
hf and geript are super boring. geript is at least not pushing straight bullshit like last game, so if that trend continues he may slide into the town category. he would also have to post about something other than koshi, rayn, and me.
your comeback was pretty lame but your recent posting has good tone. and i like making tone reads because they are easy
skynx showed a good progression on the koshi thing early, but he cannot ride that forever and is notably not here.
vivax had a really good post so i wrote him off for a while, and then when i forgot why, he had another really good post so i'm writing him off again. if he continues to play well or at least decently i will not lynch him this game.
koshi's reads line up with mine and he is staying away from the path of least resistance, although there is a chance he is pocketing me. i'm not sure pocketing is an actual strategy anyone uses though.

i think that's everyone


Can you explain:

- How skynx read progression on Koshi was good? Felt more like he got pushed into abandoning his original reasoning for all the pressure he got.

- Do you think Koshi should only be read for his reads.

Also 2014 meta best meta.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 22:58 GMT
#848
On August 26 2017 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 07:51 Vivax wrote:
And I hope Ruxxar is male otherwise I wouldn't say bitch please.

On August 26 2017 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote skynx


I'll back this vote for ego bonus as well since his Koshi push looked fishy and one-sided.

I'm at something like HF/Ruxx/Skynx atm.

Explain your HF and Ruxxar scumreds.
You are not getting away with "paranoid Vivax" shit anymore.
Now, do it. I am expecting an answer when i wake up.


The fuck is paranoid Vivax shit when we're talking about HF and Ruxxar whose reads were so far partly nonsensical and mostly followed thread sentiment on Koshi.

For all I know people scumreading Koshi are paranoid.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 23:04 GMT
#851
The reason HF is scummy is that he's mostly just finding anything he can to push people with very little town hunting besides it.

Basically if thread sentiment switches, he could just write a bunch of lines on anyone he said "looks good" previously (cause that's the best reason you're gonna get from his TRs) and vote them anyway without repercussions.

He isn't POEing or anything or have townreads he really has to commit to.

Damdred warm fuzzy feeling is BS and if Damdred isn't posting within the next 18 hours tomorrow we might see HF write that Damdred has fucked off and he would kill him .
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 23:11 GMT
#855
On August 26 2017 08:02 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 07:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:50 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:33 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:32 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
TW doesnt find mafia, he finds town until there are 3 people and then he calls them all mafia.

precisely


No. That smiley face aint good enough.
Give me some real thoughts on where your head is at.

the problem is apparently all of my thoughts are fake thoughts


Says who?

Dont mind those fuckers..

Just lay your thoughts out there.. and the truth will come to bear.

i like vivax post 160, hf post 404, skynx post 461, and your post 527. (i forgot what those posts were, but i wrote them down so they must be important somehow). i also liked the post by you i quoted and said townie
damdred is hedging like i would expect him to as town. that said i don't think i've ever played with scum!damdred. speaking of which, where is damdred?
ls is town puppy. i think i am mostly in agreement with thread sentiment here so i won't spend to long explaining it. and now that i think about it i haven't played with scum!ls either. whatever
rayn claimed parity cop and i have no reason yet to distrust it
artanis is making a lot of unimportant posts. not irrelevant, but no clear direction.
oats annoys me, because he is playing like the site meta is 2014, but the year is 2017 and i am a very newfangled player. his posting seems like i would expect from someone who has been gone for a long time, and i am not used to reading that. rayn says he is town so i will sheep rayn for now
hf and geript are super boring. geript is at least not pushing straight bullshit like last game, so if that trend continues he may slide into the town category. he would also have to post about something other than koshi, rayn, and me.
your comeback was pretty lame but your recent posting has good tone. and i like making tone reads because they are easy
skynx showed a good progression on the koshi thing early, but he cannot ride that forever and is notably not here.
vivax had a really good post so i wrote him off for a while, and then when i forgot why, he had another really good post so i'm writing him off again. if he continues to play well or at least decently i will not lynch him this game.
koshi's reads line up with mine and he is staying away from the path of least resistance, although there is a chance he is pocketing me. i'm not sure pocketing is an actual strategy anyone uses though.

i think that's everyone


Can you explain:

- How skynx read progression on Koshi was good? Felt more like he got pushed into abandoning his original reasoning for all the pressure he got.

- Do you think Koshi should only be read for his reads.

Also 2014 meta best meta.

- because initially when people doubted him he doubled down instead of giving up immediately (at something i think scum would, at that point, realize is not going to happen), and then when he checked a town game himself he realized he was wrong. but it did very much seem like he thought he had a kickass meta read when he doubled down.

- ... i guess. my current tell on him is "pushes lynchbait for bullshit reasons".

2014 was a time when players lynched each other for being bad instead of being scum. i can see why vets like it.


Ad1:

Waitwait.

On August 25 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 05:07 Skynx wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
I will be playing superslow. Still banking all that mad respect from last game.

(Starwars: rogue one)
On October 04 2016 06:03 Koshi wrote:
Not sure if I have a plan this game. Not hard townreading mafia somehow maybe.

(Murder on Cruise)
On August 16 2016 08:32 Koshi wrote:
Second. Confirmed town.

Wanted to play this game really really slow. But I got a pretty cool role so maybe not.

(purge)

We might be on a pattern here actually

have you looked at a single town game


When he doubled down, the first thing you asked is if he looked at town games.

How do you think now that the doubling down was townie?

Ad2:
Koshi's latest reads:
Mafia
Geript
ruXxar
HF


Lynch bait?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 25 2017 23:25 GMT
#864
On August 26 2017 08:16 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 08:11 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 08:02 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:50 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:33 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:32 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
TW doesnt find mafia, he finds town until there are 3 people and then he calls them all mafia.

precisely


No. That smiley face aint good enough.
Give me some real thoughts on where your head is at.

the problem is apparently all of my thoughts are fake thoughts


Says who?

Dont mind those fuckers..

Just lay your thoughts out there.. and the truth will come to bear.

i like vivax post 160, hf post 404, skynx post 461, and your post 527. (i forgot what those posts were, but i wrote them down so they must be important somehow). i also liked the post by you i quoted and said townie
damdred is hedging like i would expect him to as town. that said i don't think i've ever played with scum!damdred. speaking of which, where is damdred?
ls is town puppy. i think i am mostly in agreement with thread sentiment here so i won't spend to long explaining it. and now that i think about it i haven't played with scum!ls either. whatever
rayn claimed parity cop and i have no reason yet to distrust it
artanis is making a lot of unimportant posts. not irrelevant, but no clear direction.
oats annoys me, because he is playing like the site meta is 2014, but the year is 2017 and i am a very newfangled player. his posting seems like i would expect from someone who has been gone for a long time, and i am not used to reading that. rayn says he is town so i will sheep rayn for now
hf and geript are super boring. geript is at least not pushing straight bullshit like last game, so if that trend continues he may slide into the town category. he would also have to post about something other than koshi, rayn, and me.
your comeback was pretty lame but your recent posting has good tone. and i like making tone reads because they are easy
skynx showed a good progression on the koshi thing early, but he cannot ride that forever and is notably not here.
vivax had a really good post so i wrote him off for a while, and then when i forgot why, he had another really good post so i'm writing him off again. if he continues to play well or at least decently i will not lynch him this game.
koshi's reads line up with mine and he is staying away from the path of least resistance, although there is a chance he is pocketing me. i'm not sure pocketing is an actual strategy anyone uses though.

i think that's everyone


Can you explain:

- How skynx read progression on Koshi was good? Felt more like he got pushed into abandoning his original reasoning for all the pressure he got.

- Do you think Koshi should only be read for his reads.

Also 2014 meta best meta.

- because initially when people doubted him he doubled down instead of giving up immediately (at something i think scum would, at that point, realize is not going to happen), and then when he checked a town game himself he realized he was wrong. but it did very much seem like he thought he had a kickass meta read when he doubled down.

- ... i guess. my current tell on him is "pushes lynchbait for bullshit reasons".

2014 was a time when players lynched each other for being bad instead of being scum. i can see why vets like it.


Ad1:

Waitwait.

On August 25 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:07 Skynx wrote:
On August 29 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
I will be playing superslow. Still banking all that mad respect from last game.

(Starwars: rogue one)
On October 04 2016 06:03 Koshi wrote:
Not sure if I have a plan this game. Not hard townreading mafia somehow maybe.

(Murder on Cruise)
On August 16 2016 08:32 Koshi wrote:
Second. Confirmed town.

Wanted to play this game really really slow. But I got a pretty cool role so maybe not.

(purge)

We might be on a pattern here actually

have you looked at a single town game


When he doubled down, the first thing you asked is if he looked at town games.

How do you think now that the doubling down was townie?

Ad2:
Koshi's latest reads:
Mafia
Geript
ruXxar
HF


Lynch bait?

1. i think before my "have you read any of his town games" post there were a few people just saying it was a bad read. like when i just responded with "lmao".
2. no, i don't think those players are lynchbait, which is why i don't think koshi is mafia.


Alright.

What's your read on HF atm?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 26 2017 05:18 GMT
#876
On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least.


Yo, mornin.

Do you have any read on skynx? Cause it doesn't result to me.

If possible, put it in relation to Koshi please cause they are the current wagons atm.

@ HF

Can you do a Koshi vs Skynx thingy? Cause it isn't clear who you're feeling is stronger mafia and it looks like it's Koshi although you said you were the guy who started the skynx wagon (while not even voting for him atm).
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22246 Posts
August 26 2017 05:39 GMT
#877
I'm feeling like TRing skynx on a whim tbh.

I've been thinking a bit about his whole Koshi approach at the start of the game. am not so sure any more that it is a scummy way of starting the game. Sloppy, yes. But maybe also a genuine way of trying to apply meta.

So yea, I'm unscumreading him cause he did that instead of just being an opinion leech.

##Unvote

Now an alternative is needed, hrm.
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