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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 22 2017 10:37 GMT
#3501
The main thing I hate about this game is not being able to lynch who you want to lynch.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 22 2017 10:38 GMT
#3502
Okay guys, we agree that the game was town favoured and the swingy sections generally swung towards town this game as the judges had good reads. We're looking towards some ideas to improve upon the setup, but we don't want to start that if most people wouldn't play again. Could you answer the poll? Thanks!
Poll: Would you play another game with judges?

I played and I wouldn't (5)
 
45%

I played and I would, but it needs significant setup changes (4)
 
36%

I played and I would even without significant changes (1)
 
9%

I haven't played and I would, but it needs significant setup changes (1)
 
9%

I haven't played and I would even without significant changes (0)
 
0%

I haven't played and I wouldn't (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Would you play another game with judges?

(Vote): I played and I would even without significant changes
(Vote): I played and I would, but it needs significant setup changes
(Vote): I played and I wouldn't
(Vote): I haven't played and I would even without significant changes
(Vote): I haven't played and I would, but it needs significant setup changes
(Vote): I haven't played and I wouldn't

geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 22 2017 10:40 GMT
#3503
Regardless, we can keep on arguing which was worse for mafia, but I think we can not agree that both were super Town favored and move on.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 22 2017 10:40 GMT
#3504
We have a bunch of ideas to make the game more balanced, like the judges only picking for half the votes and being allowed to talk in the thread during the night phases and stuff like that, but we'd like to see if there's a point to discussing them first
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 22 2017 10:41 GMT
#3505
Probably smarter to discuss that later on in a different thread in like a month or 3 before we do this again. Builds some hype as well :D
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 22 2017 10:41 GMT
#3506
I think I want to just play normal mafia games. Or themed games. Not some in between.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 22 2017 10:43 GMT
#3507
On August 22 2017 19:37 Holyflare wrote:
The main thing I hate about this game is not being able to lynch who you want to lynch.

Yah. I think it actually made it harder for scum because there are better mislymches to push; or consolidations that are better than others.

Like even if D3 doesn't go south, then I still have to deal with a bunch of people who are already for lynching me just because I've been pushing them as scum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 22 2017 10:43 GMT
#3508
On August 22 2017 19:37 Superbia wrote:
Shoutout to my fellow judges for being awesome.

No you sir!
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 22 2017 10:43 GMT
#3509
The elongated day 1 was annoying. Remove that and have a normal day 1 and mafia don't need to start with a rb cos they can shoot whoever they want.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 22 2017 10:44 GMT
#3510
On August 22 2017 19:43 Holyflare wrote:
The elongated day 1 was annoying. Remove that and have a normal day 1 and mafia don't need to start with a rb cos they can shoot whoever they want.

smart
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 22 2017 10:44 GMT
#3511
Maybe give mafia a one time vote manipulation
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 22 2017 10:44 GMT
#3512
On August 22 2017 19:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
We have a bunch of ideas to make the game more balanced, like the judges only picking for half the votes and being allowed to talk in the thread during the night phases and stuff like that, but we'd like to see if there's a point to discussing them first

Btw, this is by far one of the most interesting setup ideas I've seen. It just feels like a bad nomination mafia though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 22 2017 10:44 GMT
#3513
For any phase
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 22 2017 10:44 GMT
#3514
Actually not any phase just lynches
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 22 2017 10:45 GMT
#3515
do i count as having played in the game? :D
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 22 2017 10:46 GMT
#3516
On August 22 2017 19:45 disformation wrote:
do i count as having played in the game? :D

Yes. You have another mafia loss on your record.
I had a good night of sleep.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 22 2017 10:51 GMT
#3517
On August 22 2017 19:43 Holyflare wrote:
The elongated day 1 was annoying. Remove that and have a normal day 1 and mafia don't need to start with a rb cos they can shoot whoever they want.

I thought about that, but it's tricky. In a normal, you usually get 2.5 power role uses or more. I'm not sure that balances it enough and it makes it far more swingy (cop check vs vest)

TBH, I think it's more interesting if you let mafia store KP. So you could no shoot for 2 nights then have 3 KP on N3.

The bonus for mafia winning the power up needs to be more.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 22 2017 10:53 GMT
#3518
On August 22 2017 19:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 19:45 disformation wrote:
do i count as having played in the game? :D

Yes. You have another mafia loss on your record.

was more asking cause of the poll.
dont really care about my scim winrate.
only care about my "never was misslynched as twon" thing. :p
until i fibslly get ml as toqn that is.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 22 2017 10:57 GMT
#3519
scum record is 1-4 now.
town winrate also decreasing.
think the transition to working full time difnt affect my game in a positive manner.
maybe i should request a coach next game.
*shrugs*
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 22 2017 11:06 GMT
#3520
On August 22 2017 19:51 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 19:43 Holyflare wrote:
The elongated day 1 was annoying. Remove that and have a normal day 1 and mafia don't need to start with a rb cos they can shoot whoever they want.

I thought about that, but it's tricky. In a normal, you usually get 2.5 power role uses or more. I'm not sure that balances it enough and it makes it far more swingy (cop check vs vest)

TBH, I think it's more interesting if you let mafia store KP. So you could no shoot for 2 nights then have 3 KP on N3.

The bonus for mafia winning the power up needs to be more.


Agreed. Getting a roleblock seems really meh. And it's even difficult to execute because you're essentially giving the town extra info when using the roleblock.
Minimal effort.
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