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On July 16 2017 19:43 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 19:30 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 19:19 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 16:55 emperorchampion wrote:
@ ruxxar: do you remember if you had a town lock on tumble first, or him with you? Please explain why that is important to you. I think that one of the reads could be a buddying attempt since there's an ok chance one of you are scum. Tumbles read seems a bit more suspicious at the moment given his most recent reply. To me seems possible that tumble gives you town lock as scum to help build allies with players that are in weaker situations. I can see that. I know I look bad for my defending of VA, so I'm a hypocrite for saying this, but I think TW also looks bad for his supposed town read on VA. I wouldn't say it's definitely mafia though, since I'm town and reached the same conclusion. What most bothers me about TW, is how little doubt he has about any of his reads. His reads are static and non evolving as the game progresses. Most notably very few ingame events makes him reconsider his reads, which means that his reads are locked regardless of what we do. That is a sign of someone with TMI aka mafia.
Goddamnit Ruxxar. This is exactly what I said about TW....
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On July 17 2017 03:49 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
rels just got off red check and left didn't he? Go check steam friendlist playing battlerite innit So we still lynch him. I see zero reason to not do so.
because like I said before he did this last game as town too
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On July 17 2017 03:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:Koshi did you read my case on TW? + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously. I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town. The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post. After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent. Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed: Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe. But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch. Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right: Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today
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actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM) HOWEVER. When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get: Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.
Please vote. What? TW was 100 town???? Yes? What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong? They haven't voted yet. chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this Why is EC scum? i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads. This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game. This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda. It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town. I read it but just kept in the back of my mind as "possible true". Rereading it now, I like the a lot. Shows TW is not finding mafia and just going with the flow this game.
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own. What does this mean? That in this game TW is not solving the game. Which for him is the fun part. His only scumread is me and I don't even know why. Probably thread sentiment.
Explain what changed your mind to now reach this conclusion of being so sure.
On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.
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On July 17 2017 03:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 19:43 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 19:30 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 19:19 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 16:55 emperorchampion wrote:
@ ruxxar: do you remember if you had a town lock on tumble first, or him with you? Please explain why that is important to you. I think that one of the reads could be a buddying attempt since there's an ok chance one of you are scum. Tumbles read seems a bit more suspicious at the moment given his most recent reply. To me seems possible that tumble gives you town lock as scum to help build allies with players that are in weaker situations. I can see that. I know I look bad for my defending of VA, so I'm a hypocrite for saying this, but I think TW also looks bad for his supposed town read on VA. I wouldn't say it's definitely mafia though, since I'm town and reached the same conclusion. What most bothers me about TW, is how little doubt he has about any of his reads. His reads are static and non evolving as the game progresses. Most notably very few ingame events makes him reconsider his reads, which means that his reads are locked regardless of what we do. That is a sign of someone with TMI aka mafia. Goddamnit Ruxxar. This is exactly what I said about TW....
dude doesn't remember any of his reads
doesn't even remember he 100% scum reads you
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On July 17 2017 03:51 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:42 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:Koshi did you read my case on TW? + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously. I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town. The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post. After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent. Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed: Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe. But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch. Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right: Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today
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actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM) HOWEVER. When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get: Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.
Please vote. What? TW was 100 town???? Yes? What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong? They haven't voted yet. chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this Why is EC scum? i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads. This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game. This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda. It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town. I read it but just kept in the back of my mind as "possible true". Rereading it now, I like the a lot. Shows TW is not finding mafia and just going with the flow this game.
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own. What does this mean? That in this game TW is not solving the game. Which for him is the fun part. His only scumread is me and I don't even know why. Probably thread sentiment. Explain what changed your mind to now reach this conclusion of being so sure. Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.
he did explain that in general tw is like that but isn't like that in this game
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On July 17 2017 03:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:50 Koshi wrote:On July 16 2017 19:43 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 19:30 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 19:19 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 16:55 emperorchampion wrote:
@ ruxxar: do you remember if you had a town lock on tumble first, or him with you? Please explain why that is important to you. I think that one of the reads could be a buddying attempt since there's an ok chance one of you are scum. Tumbles read seems a bit more suspicious at the moment given his most recent reply. To me seems possible that tumble gives you town lock as scum to help build allies with players that are in weaker situations. I can see that. I know I look bad for my defending of VA, so I'm a hypocrite for saying this, but I think TW also looks bad for his supposed town read on VA. I wouldn't say it's definitely mafia though, since I'm town and reached the same conclusion. What most bothers me about TW, is how little doubt he has about any of his reads. His reads are static and non evolving as the game progresses. Most notably very few ingame events makes him reconsider his reads, which means that his reads are locked regardless of what we do. That is a sign of someone with TMI aka mafia. Goddamnit Ruxxar. This is exactly what I said about TW.... dude doesn't remember any of his reads doesn't even remember he 100% scum reads you
.... just ..... no
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Can somebody else answer Ruxxar because I don't understand what he asks.
town!TW likes to solve games.
TW is nowhere close to solving this game and bases reads on thread sentiment
---> mafia!TW
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On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
rels just got off red check and left didn't he?
no still around. Playing at the same time though
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On July 17 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
rels just got off red check and left didn't he? Go check steam friendlist
lol
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On July 17 2017 03:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 03:42 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:Koshi did you read my case on TW? + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously. I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town. The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post. After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent. Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed: Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe. But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch. Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right: Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today
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actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM) HOWEVER. When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get: Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.
Please vote. What? TW was 100 town???? Yes? What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong? They haven't voted yet. chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this Why is EC scum? i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads. This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game. This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda. It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town. I read it but just kept in the back of my mind as "possible true". Rereading it now, I like the a lot. Shows TW is not finding mafia and just going with the flow this game.
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own. What does this mean? That in this game TW is not solving the game. Which for him is the fun part. His only scumread is me and I don't even know why. Probably thread sentiment. Explain what changed your mind to now reach this conclusion of being so sure. On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own. he did explain that in general tw is like that but isn't like that in this game
It's this part that interests me
On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.
What made him, in *that* moment become so sure.
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I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.
Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.
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On July 17 2017 03:47 Koshi wrote:
TW/Rels/EC/sicklucker
Pretty happy with it.
TBH without myself it looks good. You're beginning to look like town
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On July 17 2017 03:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:49 geript wrote:On July 17 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
rels just got off red check and left didn't he? Go check steam friendlist playing battlerite innit So we still lynch him. I see zero reason to not do so. because like I said before he did this last game as town too
I've given up on geript. If he didn't townread me in my towniest game ever he's not gonna townread me right now
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On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct. + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.
Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.
You don't answer my question.
Why?
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On July 17 2017 04:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:47 Koshi wrote:
TW/Rels/EC/sicklucker
Pretty happy with it. TBH without myself it looks good. You're beginning to look like town
Hail Koshi!
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On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct. + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.
Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town. You don't answer my question. Why?
Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.
Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???
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On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct. + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.
Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town. You don't answer my question. Why? Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure. Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???
So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?
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On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct. + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.
Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town. You don't answer my question. Why? Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure. Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter??? So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?
my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.
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I prefer the quiet ruXxar that worshipped me from last game.
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On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct. + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.
Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town. You don't answer my question. Why? Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure. Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter??? So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing? my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.
So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?
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