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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 19:08 GMT
#1981
On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.


So why weren't you sure before, but now you are sure?

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:09 GMT
#1982
On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.


So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?

Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about.

It's like:
Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did.
Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak.
Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week.
I had a good night of sleep.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 19:10 GMT
#1983
On July 17 2017 04:07 Koshi wrote:
I prefer the quiet ruXxar that worshipped me from last game.


If you had played like last game I'd have no reason to scum read you.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:10 GMT
#1984
On July 17 2017 04:10 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:07 Koshi wrote:
I prefer the quiet ruXxar that worshipped me from last game.


If you had played like last game I'd have no reason to scum read you.

Where is the fun in that?
I had a good night of sleep.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 16 2017 19:11 GMT
#1985
On July 17 2017 04:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 03:51 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:49 geript wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
rels just got off red check and left didn't he?

Go check steam friendlist


playing battlerite innit

So we still lynch him. I see zero reason to not do so.


because like I said before he did this last game as town too

I've given up on geript. If he didn't townread me in my towniest game ever he's not gonna townread me right now

Can't imagine why I wouldn't townread you this game... you've do so much.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 19:13 GMT
#1986
On July 17 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.


So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?

Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about.

It's like:
Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did.
Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak.
Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week.


??? That analogy is about recollecting memory.

It has nothing to do with you forming a new opinion on a subject.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:13 GMT
#1987
On July 17 2017 04:13 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.


So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?

Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about.

It's like:
Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did.
Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak.
Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week.


??? That analogy is about recollecting memory.

It has nothing to do with you forming a new opinion on a subject.

Please reread those posts I made. Pls pls pls.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 19:14 GMT
#1988
On July 17 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.


So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?

Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about.

It's like:
Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did.
Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak.
Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week.


So let me ask you this. You were wrong about TW's meta in your original post which means you don't even know how he correctly plays or what he posts like. So how do you now know that TW is a confident person that says his reads and doesn't care how he looks if you didn't know the first time?

ALSO isn't this read the exact same as what you're scum reading TW for about how he forced a read onto VA about him being excited and town? It looks the same to me.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 16 2017 19:15 GMT
#1989
On July 17 2017 03:54 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody else answer Ruxxar because I don't understand what he asks.

town!TW likes to solve games.
TW is nowhere close to solving this game and bases reads on thread sentiment
---> mafia!TW

fuck that. you wanna know where i am?

town
ruxxar
damdred/geript

town, i'm pretty sure
skynx
hf
vivax

null
sl
ec

mafia
rels
koshi

and no, i don't base reads off of thread sentiment. you're scum because you're a shittier version of yourself from generic 1. and it's not how i get my reads as scum either. i am solving this game, you just don't see how because you insist i solve it some othet way. + Show Spoiler +
jk it's because you need someone to tunnel on
good times for all
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 16 2017 19:15 GMT
#1990
On July 17 2017 00:26 Rels wrote:
SL IDK at all.
ruxxar's rest of filter was super natural, I thought I had something with the way he was treating EC weirdly then all of sudden he townreads him. I think he even lock townread him. I was thinking I had something linkling ruxxar and EC together but the lock townread doesn't make sense in that case. I think he's town

Like this is probably your best post and it's fucking thin
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:18 GMT
#1991
On July 17 2017 04:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.


So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?

Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about.

It's like:
Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did.
Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak.
Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week.


So let me ask you this. You were wrong about TW's meta in your original post which means you don't even know how he correctly plays or what he posts like. So how do you now know that TW is a confident person that says his reads and doesn't care how he looks if you didn't know the first time?

ALSO isn't this read the exact same as what you're scum reading TW for about how he forced a read onto VA about him being excited and town? It looks the same to me.

What the fuck did I write that you people make those conclusion. How did I write the bolded?
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 19:19 GMT
#1992
perhaps you're misunderstanding
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 19:20 GMT
#1993
On July 17 2017 04:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.


So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?

Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about.

It's like:
Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did.
Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak.
Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week.


So let me ask you this. You were wrong about TW's meta in your original post which means you don't even know how he correctly plays or what he posts like. So how do you now know that TW is a confident person that says his reads and doesn't care how he looks if you didn't know the first time?


ALSO isn't this read the exact same as what you're scum reading TW for about how he forced a read onto VA about him being excited and town? It looks the same to me.


This is what I'm asking.
It shouldn't be a difficult question to answer.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 19:21 GMT
#1994
On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:
Koshi did you read my case on TW?

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously.


I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town.

The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post.

After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent.

Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed:

Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe.
But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch.

Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right:

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today

...

actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM)


HOWEVER.

When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get:

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.

Please vote.

What? TW was 100 town????


Yes?

What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong?


They haven't voted yet.

chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this


Why is EC scum?

i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him


I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads.

This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game.

This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda.

It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town.


I read it but just kept in the back of my mind as "possible true".
Rereading it now, I like the a lot. Shows TW is not finding mafia and just going with the flow this game.

And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.


THIS is how you define TW's town game, correct?

Right, so now you are saying this whereas previously you said this:

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.


So you've gone somehow from TW not being someone to make those reads into TW being someone that makes those reads and doesn't care how he looks (as town) out of thin air.

Where did that switch come from?

ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 19:25 GMT
#1995
You went from this:
On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.

To this:
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.


What changed in between?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:26 GMT
#1996
On July 17 2017 04:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:
Koshi did you read my case on TW?

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously.


I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town.

The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post.

After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent.

Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed:

Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe.
But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch.

Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right:

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today

...

actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM)


HOWEVER.

When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get:

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.

Please vote.

What? TW was 100 town????


Yes?

What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong?


They haven't voted yet.

chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this


Why is EC scum?

i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him


I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads.

This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game.

This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda.

It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town.


I read it but just kept in the back of my mind as "possible true".
Rereading it now, I like the a lot. Shows TW is not finding mafia and just going with the flow this game.

And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.


THIS is how you define TW's town game, correct?

Right, so now you are saying this whereas previously you said this:

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.


So you've gone somehow from TW not being someone to make those reads into TW being someone that makes those reads and doesn't care how he looks (as town) out of thin air.

Where did that switch come from?


The first quote has nothing to do with how he reads people but that he plays mafia to solve the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 19:28 GMT
#1997
And how does he display solving the game as town koshi if you don't know how he plays town to begin with as outlined by your first quote when you say he doesn't speak in absolutes?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:28 GMT
#1998
On July 17 2017 04:25 ruXxar wrote:
You went from this:
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On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.

To this:
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And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.


What changed in between?

How do I in the second quote say that TW makes posts based on things like "VA looks excited"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:29 GMT
#1999
On July 17 2017 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
And how does he display solving the game as town koshi if you don't know how he plays town to begin with as outlined by your first quote when you say he doesn't speak in absolutes?

I actually do know how he plays as town because I played a ton of games with him. I just didn't know that fact for sure. AS I FUCKING SAID.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:30 GMT
#2000
tbh you people are being fucking dumbasses here. There is no disconnect nowhere between those 2 sentences.
I had a good night of sleep.
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