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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 14 2017 11:21 GMT
#881
On July 14 2017 19:58 Skynx wrote:
Thats not true, analytical and bullshit at the same time is misleading case, usually = mafia.


Bingo...
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 11:22 GMT
#882
from what i know he has:

Skynx
Ruxxar (and these two dont make any sense yet he doesnt care)
VA
(Koshi?)
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 11:24 GMT
#883
fyi HF geript dfoesnt think damdred is mafia.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 14 2017 11:24 GMT
#884
On July 14 2017 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 20:19 Holyflare wrote:
Dunno just like what he's pushing? Even though it's wrong and bad. His poe list is pretty much mine too.

Seems bit carefree?

Like I said bit weak.

wait what is his poe list?


Dunno like 7 people :D

So admittedly really not hard to be mafia. Just doesn't feel that scummy to me idk. Gut.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 11:25 GMT
#885
Anyway,

On July 14 2017 05:53 geript wrote:
Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx:

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far.

I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored.

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.

Anyway thats not the main point:

If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time.

The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where.

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.

On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??

rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.

Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point?

The real kicker is here:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed.

I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here.

***BIG POINT READ THIS***
Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them.

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
[...]
I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me".

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it?

Good point.


Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this:
You have three options:

1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally.

2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times.

3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!




Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry.

+ Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +
and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing. superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1.

I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again.

Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?


Where are you going with this

Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.


Me and who else is town? Geript?

Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has?

Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me.

People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place.
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?

Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it.

TLDR
1. Skynx downplays his own post
2. Skynx picks at trivial things
3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn
4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has


I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored.

How does that mean that? What i said up to that point doesn't change with what he did after a certain point in the thread? In my world what he did there associated him with EC as possible partners.

The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where.

Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again.

I don't see where are you going with this. "To what point" what? If you don't find my scumread on him genuine thats like your opinion man, not a fact so don't present it like that.

***BIG POINT READ THIS***
Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them.

Yes thanks for big announcers, you already pointed out that I haven't read it the whole thing.

Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread.

So? What about the +1? HF liked my points im trying to get him on board here. Isn't that pushing my idea? But you try to paint me like i just don't do anything about rayn? Fuck you again.

People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place.

A random meta read. It's not even meta its just what you think of what other people think about you. Again its not a fact, you're like BBC, with the "almost without exception". rayn's point about you was bullshit, your defence post was good. If i dont find it dogshit calling me scum for it is just dumb. Fuck you again.

Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it.

I've already discussed this with damdred, i've read everything he had to say about you which was only "meta". Nothing more.

TL:DR
1) is wrong
2) I don't know what this means? Whats your point?
3) Doesn't make me scum
4) I said at the beginning I haven't read everything, i made a case up to whatever point i've read because i caught on to something. I'm not trying to pretend anything, i claim at the beginning. You're just wrong.

You making a TL;DR for others while accusing me of not reading the thread is a roflable hypocrysie on its own.

I don't think this is sort of a case that comes from town, as you're not deluded here, you're just trying to paint me as scum with clever wording and none of what you said actually makes me scum. That last "meta" point is just trademark scumcase closer, trying to add a random point just to add more flavor. I've seen it so many times.

##Vote: geript
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 14 2017 11:25 GMT
#886
Skynx and ruxxar are in my poe list :D
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 11:25 GMT
#887
idk, i feel like he is more interested in how he looks rather than finding mafia.
if you can make a good case why him, ruxxar and VA are not mafia together then i am willing to listen.

i jsut think what i said screams out from his posts.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 11:27 GMT
#888
Congratz geript you got me triggered.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 14 2017 11:28 GMT
#889
Skynx so mad
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 11:28 GMT
#890
Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again.

Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense.
Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 11:31 GMT
#891
okay i should probably stop defending my scumreads rn but Skynx you're making yourself an easy lynch like this... And i don't like it because i don't think youre mafia.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 11:31 GMT
#892
On July 14 2017 20:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you voting va?

Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta?


Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post.

Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post.
To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case.
To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented.

It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game
.


There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt??


Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that.

The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town.


And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx.

And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta?

Ruxxar is prolly mafia cuz of this aswell, I mean if you always thought my case was analytical but bullshit at the same time, sr me for it or something. Now that there is a case it looks very opportunistic to jump on me while claiming oh i always had the same thoughts on him.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 14 2017 11:32 GMT
#893
On July 14 2017 20:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you voting va?

Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta?


Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post.

Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post.
To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case.
To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented.

It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game
.


There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt??


Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that.

The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town.


And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx.

And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta?


I don't care what VA says about himself.
I care about what he does and why he would do those things.

Right now he's not doing much of anything, which means he could be lumped into a pile of looks bad but no clear agenda.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 11:33 GMT
#894
On July 14 2017 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay i should probably stop defending my scumreads rn but Skynx you're making yourself an easy lynch like this... And i don't like it because i don't think youre mafia.

You didn't answer me previously, is it geript/ruxxar/va?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 11:36 GMT
#895
On July 14 2017 20:33 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay i should probably stop defending my scumreads rn but Skynx you're making yourself an easy lynch like this... And i don't like it because i don't think youre mafia.

You didn't answer me previously, is it geript/ruxxar/va?

It's in my filter even if i didn't specifically direct it to you.
Yes i think so atm.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 11:36 GMT
#896
On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again.

Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense.
Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything.

Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 14 2017 11:38 GMT
#897
On July 14 2017 20:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 20:11 Holyflare wrote:
On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you voting va?

Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta?


Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post.

Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post.
To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case.
To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented.

It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game
.


There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt??


Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that.

The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town.


And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx.

And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta?


I don't care what VA says about himself.
I care about what he does and why he would do those things.

Right now he's not doing much of anything, which means he could be lumped into a pile of looks bad but no clear agenda.


Are you even reading the same fucking thread dude?

Koshi/rayn jumpes on va for being mafia so fast and called him mafia for doing his mafia meta. He is forced to claim it's his meta at this point.

So his agenda is he's pushing his mafia meta.

Literally I can't comprehend what you're saying. It blows my mind so much that you have to be mafia.

What he DID DO was his usual mafia agenda!!!


So let me ask again. Why are you saying there's no mafia agenda? Why does all mafia have to have any other agenda than "live"?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 11:38 GMT
#898
On July 14 2017 20:36 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again.

Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense.
Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything.

Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional.

nope dude. just nope.
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 14 2017 11:39 GMT
#899
On July 14 2017 20:31 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 20:11 Holyflare wrote:
On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you voting va?

Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta?


Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post.

Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post.
To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case.
To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented.

It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game
.


There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt??


Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that.

The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town.


And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx.

And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta?

Ruxxar is prolly mafia cuz of this aswell, I mean if you always thought my case was analytical but bullshit at the same time, sr me for it or something. Now that there is a case it looks very opportunistic to jump on me while claiming oh i always had the same thoughts on him.


I didn't SR you right away since I have a soft spot/blindside for "bad town".

I've now decided to see what happens when I go against that intuition, breaking that barrier.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 11:39 GMT
#900
i mean why should i ever apply "not pushing a scumread when that's cleary your scumread" -logic on EC when he did nothing like that.
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