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On July 14 2017 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:36 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again. Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense.  Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything. Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional. nope dude. just nope.
We discussed this and agreed to disagree. We have the exact same scumteam. We both have things to scumread eachother, but overall I don't think you're scum and vice versa. Can we work together please?
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On July 14 2017 20:40 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:36 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again. Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense. Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything. Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional. nope dude. just nope. We discussed this and agreed to disagree. We have the exact same scumteam. We both have things to scumread eachother, but overall I don't think you're scum and vice versa. Can we work together please?
I dont have reasons to scumread you, i just wish you would stop saying dumb things that can get you lynched, like saying ruxxar made a townie thing in where he called you mafia and then you called him mafia for it.
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well nai rather than townie
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On July 14 2017 20:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:32 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 20:11 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you voting va?
Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta? Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post. Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post.
To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case.
To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented.
It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game. There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt?? Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that. The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town. And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx. And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta? I don't care what VA says about himself. I care about what he does and why he would do those things. Right now he's not doing much of anything, which means he could be lumped into a pile of looks bad but no clear agenda. Are you even reading the same fucking thread dude? Koshi/rayn jumpes on va for being mafia so fast and called him mafia for doing his mafia meta. He is forced to claim it's his meta at this point. So his agenda is he's pushing his mafia meta. Literally I can't comprehend what you're saying. It blows my mind so much that you have to be mafia. What he DID DO was his usual mafia agenda!!!
So let me ask again. Why are you saying there's no mafia agenda? Why does all mafia have to have any other agenda than "live"?
Every persons macro agenda, town or scum is to "live".
That doesn't mean mafia don't have other goals such as misdirecting town or trying to gain town credit.
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On July 14 2017 20:39 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:31 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:11 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you voting va?
Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta? Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post. Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post.
To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case.
To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented.
It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game. There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt?? Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that. The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town. And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx. And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta? Ruxxar is prolly mafia cuz of this aswell, I mean if you always thought my case was analytical but bullshit at the same time, sr me for it or something. Now that there is a case it looks very opportunistic to jump on me while claiming oh i always had the same thoughts on him. I didn't SR you right away since I have a soft spot/blindside for "bad town". I've now decided to see what happens when I go against that intuition, breaking that barrier.
Thats my point. I didn't do anything differently in that period and everything geript said was already available to you but when he presented them that was enough for you to change your mind?
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On July 14 2017 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:40 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:36 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again. Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense. Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything. Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional. nope dude. just nope. We discussed this and agreed to disagree. We have the exact same scumteam. We both have things to scumread eachother, but overall I don't think you're scum and vice versa. Can we work together please? I dont have reasons to scumread you, i just wish you would stop saying dumb things that can get you lynched, like saying ruxxar made a townie thing in where he called you mafia and then you called him mafia for it.
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Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va.
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On July 14 2017 20:39 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:31 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:11 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you voting va?
Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta? Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post. Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post.
To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case.
To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented.
It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game. There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt?? Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that. The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town. And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx. And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta? Ruxxar is prolly mafia cuz of this aswell, I mean if you always thought my case was analytical but bullshit at the same time, sr me for it or something. Now that there is a case it looks very opportunistic to jump on me while claiming oh i always had the same thoughts on him. I didn't SR you right away since I have a soft spot/blindside for "bad town". I've now decided to see what happens when I go against that intuition, breaking that barrier.
So you think he's bad town but you're calling him mafia just because you feel like you should?
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On July 14 2017 20:46 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:38 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 20:32 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 20:11 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar why aren't you voting va?
Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta? Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post. Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post.
To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case.
To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented.
It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game. There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt?? Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that. The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town. And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx. And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta? I don't care what VA says about himself. I care about what he does and why he would do those things. Right now he's not doing much of anything, which means he could be lumped into a pile of looks bad but no clear agenda. Are you even reading the same fucking thread dude? Koshi/rayn jumpes on va for being mafia so fast and called him mafia for doing his mafia meta. He is forced to claim it's his meta at this point. So his agenda is he's pushing his mafia meta. Literally I can't comprehend what you're saying. It blows my mind so much that you have to be mafia. What he DID DO was his usual mafia agenda!!!
So let me ask again. Why are you saying there's no mafia agenda? Why does all mafia have to have any other agenda than "live"? Every persons macro agenda, town or scum is to "live". That doesn't mean mafia don't have other goals such as misdirecting town or trying to gain town credit.
Holy fucking shit you're just mafia. There's no other explanation for this.
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Obviously nothing new, more for me, but seems like there could be at least one mafia in skynx rux and geript. So should probably re examine things based on that.
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On July 14 2017 20:47 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:40 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:36 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again. Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense. Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything. Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional. nope dude. just nope. We discussed this and agreed to disagree. We have the exact same scumteam. We both have things to scumread eachother, but overall I don't think you're scum and vice versa. Can we work together please? I dont have reasons to scumread you, i just wish you would stop saying dumb things that can get you lynched, like saying ruxxar made a townie thing in where he called you mafia and then you called him mafia for it. ??????
You argued that one of the reasons you think ruxxar is mafia for is that he calls your post analytical and bullshit at the same time. I tell you that a post can be analytical and bullshit at the same time. You agree. Then you say if a post is analytical and bullshit at the same time it comes from mafia.
So basically you are saying that ruxxar is mafia for thinking you are mafia for things that make people mafia....
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Also if there's some super good reason to town read koshi then rux can very likely be mafia for just chilling on him. But koshi is kinda null to me atm
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On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va.
something something disfo townreads my madness (<3) so im faking it.
His case is 90% throwing dirt/cherrypicking stuff, i don't get the misinformed town vibe from it as they aren't this tryhard to scumread someone. There is the thing tho, in an ideal world two scum won't create a train like that. But last game scum didn't influence a 5-5 vote on their roleblocker so i don't even know anymore. Scum can do anything.
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On July 14 2017 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:47 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:40 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:36 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again. Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense. Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything. Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional. nope dude. just nope. We discussed this and agreed to disagree. We have the exact same scumteam. We both have things to scumread eachother, but overall I don't think you're scum and vice versa. Can we work together please? I dont have reasons to scumread you, i just wish you would stop saying dumb things that can get you lynched, like saying ruxxar made a townie thing in where he called you mafia and then you called him mafia for it. ?????? You argued that one of the reasons you think ruxxar is mafia for is that he calls your post analytical and bullshit at the same time. I tell you that a post can be analytical and bullshit at the same time. You agree. Then you say if a post is analytical and bullshit at the same time it comes from mafia. So basically you are saying that ruxxar is mafia for thinking you are mafia for things that make people mafia....
That's not the thing that makes him mafia. Is ruxxar a he or she?
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On July 14 2017 21:06 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:47 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:40 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 14 2017 20:36 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again. Dude the sentence above this in geript's post is almost the only thing that makes sense. Yes it is irrelevant if i treat two people in a different way. It doesnt make me anything. Treating two people in a different way is not the same as what happened there. I mean the logic you applied to ruxxar, you apply it to EC aswell, it makes him mafia but you chose to ignore that and i thought thats intentional. nope dude. just nope. We discussed this and agreed to disagree. We have the exact same scumteam. We both have things to scumread eachother, but overall I don't think you're scum and vice versa. Can we work together please? I dont have reasons to scumread you, i just wish you would stop saying dumb things that can get you lynched, like saying ruxxar made a townie thing in where he called you mafia and then you called him mafia for it. ?????? You argued that one of the reasons you think ruxxar is mafia for is that he calls your post analytical and bullshit at the same time. I tell you that a post can be analytical and bullshit at the same time. You agree. Then you say if a post is analytical and bullshit at the same time it comes from mafia. So basically you are saying that ruxxar is mafia for thinking you are mafia for things that make people mafia.... That's not the thing that makes him mafia. Is ruxxar a he or she?
well that's what your case was like 30% about so i am a bit conflicted now.
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ohhhh you are right, that was not your case.
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you literally said the opposite 
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I read "at least call me mafia" as "and he is calling me mafia"....
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okay i have to do some packing
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