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On June 22 2017 02:22 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 02:13 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 02:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 01:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:41 Chezitwo wrote:
Which means I have to find a good location for my vote. Which probably is SL right now. Gotta give HF a little credit. I don't see why you all are so eager to vote together with grack when he was such a strong scum read just a short while ago. You think grack is bussing here? Pro tip: Don't make pre flip associations. Vote on who is the most scummy individually. And I don't see how this tip makes any sense. If I think grack is scum, I'm going to be inclined to not vote with him. How is that a bad idea? Do you honestly think Grack voting his counterwagon is in any way alignment indicative? That would be quite stupid of you. Yes. If he was mafia with SL I think they would try to deflect onto a non mafia. A prime example would be Rels.
These 2 really aren't in the position to deflect anything.
Look, if SL comes into the thread later throwing towny glitter and shitting towny rainbows you people will certainly be able to make the correct decision to lynch someone else without me. If he doesn't then my vote is in the right place.
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On June 22 2017 02:29 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 02:13 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 02:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 01:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:41 Chezitwo wrote:
Which means I have to find a good location for my vote. Which probably is SL right now. Gotta give HF a little credit. I don't see why you all are so eager to vote together with grack when he was such a strong scum read just a short while ago. You think grack is bussing here? Pro tip: Don't make pre flip associations. Vote on who is the most scummy individually. And I don't see how this tip makes any sense. If I think grack is scum, I'm going to be inclined to not vote with him. How is that a bad idea? Do you honestly think Grack voting his counterwagon is in any way alignment indicative? That would be quite stupid of you. If you look in the vote thread, you would see that SL and Rels both had 3 votes when grack voted, yet he chose to vote SL over Rels. What does that tell you?
Nothing at all. If rels is town then mafia knew it would be hard to lynch him. Unlike you apparently I do not know any alignments. I do not know if grack is mafia. Maybe he is. But it doesn't say anything at all about SL.
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On June 22 2017 02:29 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 02:13 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 02:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 01:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:41 Chezitwo wrote:
Which means I have to find a good location for my vote. Which probably is SL right now. Gotta give HF a little credit. I don't see why you all are so eager to vote together with grack when he was such a strong scum read just a short while ago. You think grack is bussing here? Pro tip: Don't make pre flip associations. Vote on who is the most scummy individually. And I don't see how this tip makes any sense. If I think grack is scum, I'm going to be inclined to not vote with him. How is that a bad idea? Do you honestly think Grack voting his counterwagon is in any way alignment indicative? That would be quite stupid of you. If you look in the vote thread, you would see that SL and Rels both had 3 votes when grack voted, yet he chose to vote SL over Rels. What does that tell you?
And that's with SL even being the first vote on Rels.
Simple logic should tell you that they are not the same faction.
If you don't think so that would be quite stupid if you.
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On June 22 2017 02:33 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 02:29 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 02:13 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 02:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 01:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:41 Chezitwo wrote:
Which means I have to find a good location for my vote. Which probably is SL right now. Gotta give HF a little credit. I don't see why you all are so eager to vote together with grack when he was such a strong scum read just a short while ago. You think grack is bussing here? Pro tip: Don't make pre flip associations. Vote on who is the most scummy individually. And I don't see how this tip makes any sense. If I think grack is scum, I'm going to be inclined to not vote with him. How is that a bad idea? Do you honestly think Grack voting his counterwagon is in any way alignment indicative? That would be quite stupid of you. If you look in the vote thread, you would see that SL and Rels both had 3 votes when grack voted, yet he chose to vote SL over Rels. What does that tell you? And that's with SL even being the first vote on Rels. Simple logic should tell you that they are not the same faction. If you don't think so that would be quite stupid if you.
Well, then let's settle at this: with all your vast experience playing mafia you just know better than me.
Of course pressured mafia would never vote each other what was I thinking...
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On June 22 2017 02:36 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 02:33 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 02:29 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 02:13 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 02:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 01:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:41 Chezitwo wrote:
Which means I have to find a good location for my vote. Which probably is SL right now. Gotta give HF a little credit. I don't see why you all are so eager to vote together with grack when he was such a strong scum read just a short while ago. You think grack is bussing here? Pro tip: Don't make pre flip associations. Vote on who is the most scummy individually. And I don't see how this tip makes any sense. If I think grack is scum, I'm going to be inclined to not vote with him. How is that a bad idea? Do you honestly think Grack voting his counterwagon is in any way alignment indicative? That would be quite stupid of you. If you look in the vote thread, you would see that SL and Rels both had 3 votes when grack voted, yet he chose to vote SL over Rels. What does that tell you? And that's with SL even being the first vote on Rels. Simple logic should tell you that they are not the same faction. If you don't think so that would be quite stupid if you. Well, then let's settle at this: with all your vast experience playing mafia you just know better than me. Of course pressured mafia would never vote each other what was I thinking...
I guess I learned something new today. The best way to win as scum is to bus your team mates until there's no one left on your team.
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Blazinghand
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On June 21 2017 20:06 Rels wrote:
BH you're there ? I thought you scumread me for that dumbtell where I didn't know that scum KP went down to 1 after N2. Apparently I misunderstood ? Please explain if that's the case
yarp
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Blazinghand
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hey so I see a bunch of people jumping on SL what's the actual case here? should I be sheeping or what
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On June 22 2017 02:41 Blazinghand wrote:
hey so I see a bunch of people jumping on SL what's the actual case here? should I be sheeping or what
Sure, if you want to throw conventional vote logic out the window.
I guess that just isn't good enough for these advanced mafia tactics people are employing nowadays.
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Blazinghand
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On June 22 2017 02:44 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 02:41 Blazinghand wrote:
hey so I see a bunch of people jumping on SL what's the actual case here? should I be sheeping or what Sure, if you want to throw conventional vote logic out the window. I guess that just isn't good enough for these advanced mafia tactics people are employing nowadays.
what's the conventional logic say and why
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On June 22 2017 02:45 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 02:44 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 02:41 Blazinghand wrote:
hey so I see a bunch of people jumping on SL what's the actual case here? should I be sheeping or what Sure, if you want to throw conventional vote logic out the window. I guess that just isn't good enough for these advanced mafia tactics people are employing nowadays. what's the conventional logic say and why
Read my interaction with Chez.
Last couple pages.
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The short of it is this:
Vote logic tells me that grack and SL are not the same faction.
Who you believe is more scummy is up to you.
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On June 22 2017 02:40 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 02:36 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 02:33 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 02:29 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 02:13 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 02:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 01:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:41 Chezitwo wrote:
Which means I have to find a good location for my vote. Which probably is SL right now. Gotta give HF a little credit. I don't see why you all are so eager to vote together with grack when he was such a strong scum read just a short while ago. You think grack is bussing here? Pro tip: Don't make pre flip associations. Vote on who is the most scummy individually. And I don't see how this tip makes any sense. If I think grack is scum, I'm going to be inclined to not vote with him. How is that a bad idea? Do you honestly think Grack voting his counterwagon is in any way alignment indicative? That would be quite stupid of you. If you look in the vote thread, you would see that SL and Rels both had 3 votes when grack voted, yet he chose to vote SL over Rels. What does that tell you? And that's with SL even being the first vote on Rels. Simple logic should tell you that they are not the same faction. If you don't think so that would be quite stupid if you. Well, then let's settle at this: with all your vast experience playing mafia you just know better than me. Of course pressured mafia would never vote each other what was I thinking... I guess I learned something new today. The best way to win as scum is to bus your team mates until there's no one left on your team.
Look dude. If grack is mafia and SL I have no doubt that you will get grack lynched without my vote. U
If SL is mafia and grack is town I think lynching correctly will be harder for town.
I believe in you man.
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On June 22 2017 02:49 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 02:40 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 02:36 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 02:33 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 02:29 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 02:13 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 02:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:On June 22 2017 01:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 01:41 Chezitwo wrote:
Which means I have to find a good location for my vote. Which probably is SL right now. Gotta give HF a little credit. I don't see why you all are so eager to vote together with grack when he was such a strong scum read just a short while ago. You think grack is bussing here? Pro tip: Don't make pre flip associations. Vote on who is the most scummy individually. And I don't see how this tip makes any sense. If I think grack is scum, I'm going to be inclined to not vote with him. How is that a bad idea? Do you honestly think Grack voting his counterwagon is in any way alignment indicative? That would be quite stupid of you. If you look in the vote thread, you would see that SL and Rels both had 3 votes when grack voted, yet he chose to vote SL over Rels. What does that tell you? And that's with SL even being the first vote on Rels. Simple logic should tell you that they are not the same faction. If you don't think so that would be quite stupid if you. Well, then let's settle at this: with all your vast experience playing mafia you just know better than me. Of course pressured mafia would never vote each other what was I thinking... I guess I learned something new today. The best way to win as scum is to bus your team mates until there's no one left on your team. Look dude. If grack is mafia and SL I have no doubt that you will get grack lynched without my vote. U If SL is mafia and grack is town I think lynching correctly will be harder for town. I believe in you man.
Apparently you don't, or you would be voting for grack.
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i think gracks vote is nai. sl was the biggest wagon at the time?
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oh no wait it was 2-2 nvm
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nah. still might be wifmo at taht stage.
but lets see some flips first
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even though im' pretty out of it i know for sure you guys are doing something stupid right now
sl is 90% town and imma see if i can explain why
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Blazinghand
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On June 21 2017 21:29 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 21 2017 19:31 disformation wrote:On June 21 2017 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 21 2017 18:34 disformation wrote:looking back at fefe: last post: On June 21 2017 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I went into VA's filter almost looking for reasons to scumread him and now that I made half a case about his read progression on grack and skynx...
I kinda think he's just low effort town.. The way he comes across seems so casual and while like 80% of his posts are setup talk or useless he seems to be looking at the game from a low information point of view and hasn't pushed any sort of agenda (scum or town) that I can see. town. fairly sure. Why is that townish? "I made a half-assed attempt to do something and my result is a not-really-committed townread" How is that townish? *sigh* why would scum do that? scum would just finish up the half finished case to look like having scumreads and done stuff. realizing half way through a case that you think the guy might actually be town is far more likely to come from town. aaaand the read isnt even as shitty as you make it out to be. "i cant see any agenda in va's filter" is a pretty strong statement. Yeah I actually think this is a valid point. Like, here's how you should look at it. On the really basic level, the first level, Scum aren't coming from the same mindset of hunting scum that Town come from. Which means it's hard for Scum to have good reads and feel confident pushing them. This means that Town might formulate a read and make a case, but Scum would worry about appearing scummy or something, and therefore try to leave open a line of retreat. See, if you're town, and you think someone is scum, even if it's unpopular to think that, you won't give it up. You have a belief; you have evidence; you're gonna go for it. Scum, though, they're not trying to lynch this guy they think is scum. Instead, theyr'e trying to not get lynched. so maybe theyw ant to build their cases and reads with a line of retreat so they can change their minds if it's unpopular. So on a naive level you would expect Town to be decisive and Scum to be waffly. But if you go down into the second level, it turns out taht sometimes as Town you're confused. And to a certain extent, town doesn't actually CARE about looking town. I mean, obvs you don't wanna get lynched but you're also highly concerned with finding scum. Whereas scum, their ONLY concern is about looking town. And if "looking town" means decisively posting aggressive cases, Scum will try to ape this as best they can. Town will only do this when it makes sense for them. So, we might see someone posting waffle-like uncertain reads. This could mean "ah hah, this is scum planning to pull out of these reads if they aren't popular" and that's possible. But because this really stands out, and is obviously scummy, it's like... the kind of thing that scum tries (but not always succeeds) to avoid doing. And town to a certain extent doesn't actually give a shit. Town wants to lynch properly. so "I did half-assed work and got a half-assed townread" is, you know, it's not something i'm gonna go giving people tons of townreads on that, but there's not a HUGE motivation for scum to do that because 1) a half-assed townread won't get anyone lynched and 2) it kinda stands out as "bad" in a sense. And I'm not saying "too bad to be scum" but you can see how a town has in some ways more chances of saying this than a scum, capisce Show nested quote +On June 21 2017 19:39 Blazinghand wrote:
ugh putting out useless guru wisdom that doesn't actually contribute is too much effort i'm going to bed Perfect self analysis. Completely pointless post made to have posts. Really bad.
Whoa buddy at least I own it.
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On June 22 2017 02:47 ruXxar wrote:
The short of it is this:
Vote logic tells me that grack and SL are not the same faction.
Who you believe is more scummy is up to you.
so why would you need to throw logic out the window to vote SL then
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On June 22 2017 03:00 disformation wrote:
nah. still might be wifmo at taht stage.
but lets see some flips first
Really wifom how?
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