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On June 09 2017 04:32 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think i was toxic in this interaction at all (maybe the last post was a bit harsh). You called for me to get shot, posted multiple falsehoods and when I said that this wasn't the case by simply linking your own posts I get told it's nitpicky. That is a confusing turn of events to say the least and doesn't make sense to me so I'm going to naturally be confused.
My post was not toxic by any stretch of the imagination as I in no way insulted you or your play but rather the content you posted. You need to wear kid gloves if you want anything out of BTDT. Just be very overly-friendly with him and if you say anything accusative wrap it up in several layers of abstraction. Otherwise the interaction won't work. That's my experience. What you're saying here is not going to do anything but increase the rage.
LET ME FETCH YOU YOUR GRAPES, MASTER
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On June 09 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
Didn't someone say he did that as scum though? Where was that
Grack said that, to which I said "Grack+btdt aren't a team"
On June 06 2017 11:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Actually I'm pretty sure Btdt rage quit for an entire cycle in the last game he won as scum
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On June 09 2017 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think i was toxic in this interaction at all (maybe the last post was a bit harsh). You called for me to get shot, posted multiple falsehoods and when I said that this wasn't the case by simply linking your own posts I get told it's nitpicky. That is a confusing turn of events to say the least and doesn't make sense to me so I'm going to naturally be confused.
My post was not toxic by any stretch of the imagination as I in no way insulted you or your play but rather the content you posted.
You're right.
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You guys also shouldn't forget that the Host Revenge game was themed and that my play heavily revolved around a cop claim that I prepared by sending a host-approved PM to disformation. And so on and so on.
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On June 09 2017 04:32 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 04:32 Blazinghand wrote:On June 09 2017 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think i was toxic in this interaction at all (maybe the last post was a bit harsh). You called for me to get shot, posted multiple falsehoods and when I said that this wasn't the case by simply linking your own posts I get told it's nitpicky. That is a confusing turn of events to say the least and doesn't make sense to me so I'm going to naturally be confused.
My post was not toxic by any stretch of the imagination as I in no way insulted you or your play but rather the content you posted. You need to wear kid gloves if you want anything out of BTDT. Just be very overly-friendly with him and if you say anything accusative wrap it up in several layers of abstraction. Otherwise the interaction won't work. That's my experience. What you're saying here is not going to do anything but increase the rage. LET ME FETCH YOU YOUR GRAPES, MASTER
Not like that, just be very friendly to the guy. I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate weird over the top stuff like what you just wrote
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On June 09 2017 04:37 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 04:32 Grackaroni wrote:On June 09 2017 04:32 Blazinghand wrote:On June 09 2017 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think i was toxic in this interaction at all (maybe the last post was a bit harsh). You called for me to get shot, posted multiple falsehoods and when I said that this wasn't the case by simply linking your own posts I get told it's nitpicky. That is a confusing turn of events to say the least and doesn't make sense to me so I'm going to naturally be confused.
My post was not toxic by any stretch of the imagination as I in no way insulted you or your play but rather the content you posted. You need to wear kid gloves if you want anything out of BTDT. Just be very overly-friendly with him and if you say anything accusative wrap it up in several layers of abstraction. Otherwise the interaction won't work. That's my experience. What you're saying here is not going to do anything but increase the rage. LET ME FETCH YOU YOUR GRAPES, MASTER Not like that, just be very friendly to the guy. I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate weird over the top stuff like what you just wrote
That was from what you said to Vivax after trying the other way first.
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On June 09 2017 04:37 Holyflare wrote:
Hey grack who's mafia?
I don't understand why everyone is town reading Ritoky. I need to make a conclusion between Tubesock/LS/Conversion.
Everyone else I feel ok with. Even you but I won't say that of course. 
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On June 09 2017 04:41 Holyflare wrote:
Tube is definitely town
Because of the second vote or other reasons?
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ritoky can very well be scum and I'd like to retract my initial townread. my d1 townread on him was super yolo anyways, actually it's super easy to push D1 btdt.
His appearance around D2 flip time was super bad, he's not really contributing etc.
but I also don't wantto give PB a town pass because all he did was come in, defend himself in a weird way, piss off again. he's super low volume. same for conversion. I think in my filter, there's somewhere a list of people (5-6) that I don't have as locked towns.
we should work on that list, it's good.
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On June 08 2017 09:36 beentheredonethat wrote:So, my town list:
Tubesock (voting Fidei #2)
Tumblewood (blue claim, un-cc'ed, voting Fidei #3)
Grackaroni (had the exact same thoughts about Vivax pre-claim as me, voting Fidei #4 - hammer?)
Holyflare (#1774)
Leaves: ritoky LightningStrike (But I think I townread him for some reason earlier already, didn't I?) Blazinghand Conversion (who disappeared) Prison Break ( cased) Is it so easy that a) both newbies are scum together AND both voted outside the scum wagon D1?
This one. This is a good list.
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I think the most suspicious thing is here who even believes beentheredonethat scumreads me despite me playing differently from last game?
Like he's just tunneling me at this point. I want to believe he's town but I don't think he is. It also doesn't help that I have many townreads as well, I should look into them again in case I'm wrong on BTDT/conversion
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like I'm not saying scum would always town or scumread me, but the reason has to be genuine, and it seems like btdt is kind of pissed off that I actually came in here to defend myself etc. and people are starting to townread me now. like he doesn't want to let go but he doesn't feel comfortable continuing his push either. but he never really reconsiders. I don't even know what he scumreads me for anymore
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On June 09 2017 04:54 Prison Break wrote:
I think the most suspicious thing is here who even believes beentheredonethat scumreads me despite me playing differently from last game?
Like he's just tunneling me at this point. I want to believe he's town but I don't think he is. It also doesn't help that I have many townreads as well, I should look into them again in case I'm wrong on BTDT/conversion
I like how me mentioning you always summons you into the thread.
HF if you can seriously shoot, then shoot PB.
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On June 09 2017 04:56 Prison Break wrote:
like I'm not saying scum would always town or scumread me, but the reason has to be genuine, and it seems like btdt is kind of pissed off that I actually came in here to defend myself etc. and people are starting to townread me now. like he doesn't want to let go but he doesn't feel comfortable continuing his push either. but he never really reconsiders. I don't even know what he scumreads me for anymore
Okay. Okay. Can you please do one thing for me: list every single player in the game that is alive and kicking. Next to the name, put in one word what your read on them is. Scum/Town/Null. Please do that. Please.
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On June 09 2017 04:56 Prison Break wrote:
like I'm not saying scum would always town or scumread me, but the reason has to be genuine, and it seems like btdt is kind of pissed off that I actually came in here to defend myself etc. and people are starting to townread me now. like he doesn't want to let go but he doesn't feel comfortable continuing his push either. but he never really reconsiders. I don't even know what he scumreads me for anymore
No really I cannot get over this shitty shit of a post.
"like I'm not saying scum would always town or scumread me"
What the actual fuck do you mean with that?
"but the reason has to be genuine, and it seems like btdt is kind of pissed off that I actually came in here to defend myself etc. and people are starting to townread me now"
The reason for someone to read you town or scum has to be genuine. Okay, I understand that. I have several reasons for why I scumread you. You say I'm pissed off that you came in here to defend yourself? No! I think that's great! But your defense is in no way making me town read you. On the contrary, the way you are making up things in your defense (such as "I pushed Fidei pretty hard" which is an outright exaggeration and can very well be seen as a lie) are making me feel better on my scumread.
People are starting to townread you now? No! HF does so. For whatever, unstated, super weird reasons, he does so. I guess it's a tone thing or whatever. That is one. And am I mad about this? No, I am not.
You need to realize that not everything I say or do is related to you, PB. Of course I'm wondering why HF is townreading you. Because HF said just 24 hours ago that my case on you is solid! So I'm wondering what made HF change his mind. Because I want to understand not only you, but also HF better.
"like he doesn't want to let go but he doesn't feel comfortable continuing his push either. but he never really reconsiders"
Why would I feel uncomfortable pushing you? Because HF townreads you? Would you please remember that I stated multiple times that I did believe Vivax claim (when everyone(!!!!!) was against Vivax) and that I even hard defended him once he rescineded his flip? Like if I was scum, why would I feel uncomfortable about pushing you if that's the thing people agree with? If that's the thing people townread me for? No, I do not feel uncomfortable! The hell?!
Do I look like I reconsider you being scum here? If so, SORRY! It's just me not knowing everything and considering that I might be wrong. Right now, to me, my points have not been disapproved or something so I'm perfectly fine seeing you flip. Holy.
" I don't even know what he scumreads me for anymor"
How about you check my filter? There you have it multiple times even, partially in conversations, partially in a case. Holy moly.
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On June 09 2017 04:56 Prison Break wrote:
like I'm not saying scum would always town or scumread me, but the reason has to be genuine, and it seems like btdt is kind of pissed off that I actually came in here to defend myself etc. and people are starting to townread me now. like he doesn't want to let go but he doesn't feel comfortable continuing his push either. but he never really reconsiders. I don't even know what he scumreads me for anymore
why would a scum's read on you have to be genuine? wouldn't it be the opposite and be constructed?
and contrary to what hf has said, i don't think anything you have said recently makes me inclined to call you town. i find most of your posts to be coming from a place of defense or omgus, and like someone said earlier i don't feel like you try very hard to convert your reads into action in any substantive way. it has happened a couple times, like you lay a read out into the thread, every1 ignores it and you have no real response to ppl just hand waving past it; i also don't feel the desire to lynch emanating from you and maybe that's cuz i don't know you; and lastly you haven't made any super nuanced or detail-oriented observations where i am like "holy shit mind blow town" which i kinda expect from a townie when you have giant walls of text.
pretty much the only reason i haven't been on your case is that you sound so different from last game, particularly on day 1; but as time goes on and i have town reads i am pretty confident in, i want more than just that.
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On June 09 2017 04:54 Prison Break wrote:
I think the most suspicious thing is here who even believes beentheredonethat scumreads me despite me playing differently from last game?
Like he's just tunneling me at this point. I want to believe he's town but I don't think he is. It also doesn't help that I have many townreads as well, I should look into them again in case I'm wrong on BTDT/conversion
Are you saying my scumread on you is fake? What makes you think that? Can you please point towards observations that are obviously (or not so obviously) made up? Can you please show the flaws in the logic I used to deduct that your behaviour makes you scum? Can you PLEASE do that instead of just saying "who even believes that" because you sound like Trump talking about climate change, holy shit
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