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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 07 2017 20:58 GMT
#1661
On June 08 2017 05:56 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:47 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:37 ritoky wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also wait - BH was all day like "look I hammered scum I'm so great" BH actually did not hammer scum, I thought all game he was part of the fidei train but he wasn't :O


he effectively was, he just hopped off at the last minute to do some funsie shit.


Whoa, don't imply I was ever helpful, my vote was never on fidei


then i too also misinterpreted it. lol


OK just to set the record absolutely straight:

1. I never voted Fidei D1
2. I never commented on Fidei's alignment or the quality of the case against him D1
3. I moved around my vote at the end of the day, moving it from Grack (non-wagon) to Vivax (also a non-wagon)
4. I claimed I was willing to move onto Fidei if needed in order to secure the lynch, but never did this, though I was in thread until the lynch
5. After Fidei was lynched, I loudly claimed responsibility for the lynch and demanded people give me credit for it as an "honorary voter"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 07 2017 20:59 GMT
#1662
It's not scummy in the slightest. I'm forfeit from ever being solidly town read in a game by virtue of just being too damn good at scum.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 07 2017 21:00 GMT
#1663
On June 08 2017 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
It's not scummy in the slightest. I'm forfeit from ever being solidly town read in a game by virtue of just being too damn good at scum.


LOL man I guess I'm not the biggest ego in this game after all..


--


I also made this post just as the lynch resolved:

On June 05 2017 09:01 Blazinghand wrote:
count me as an honorary fidei voter, unless he flips green, in which case please don't

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 07 2017 21:01 GMT
#1664
Also please note that LS posted no read list when asked. Let it be known.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 21:03 GMT
#1665
On June 08 2017 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Also please note that LS posted no read list when asked. Let it be known.

I did gave some reads but you also worded like you think I am scum. You were going to call it a TMI town list so bother if you just going to call it TMI?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 07 2017 21:04 GMT
#1666
I didn't call you scum.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 21:04 GMT
#1667
Also btdt we have to settle HF vs Vivax today nothing more nothing less.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 21:04 GMT
#1668
On June 08 2017 04:31 Holyflare wrote:
Ls hit me up with a tmi read list.

How does that not sound like you were ready to just call me scum?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 07 2017 21:04 GMT
#1669
On June 08 2017 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:31 Holyflare wrote:
Ls hit me up with a tmi read list.

I not scum?


I didn't say you were. Gimme your reads list, mafia.

LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 21:05 GMT
#1670
Like I would had to be retarded to think you weren't ready to call me scum with that post.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 21:05 GMT
#1671
On June 08 2017 06:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:31 Holyflare wrote:
Ls hit me up with a tmi read list.

I not scum?


I didn't say you were. Gimme your reads list, mafia.


Again you called me scum.....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 07 2017 21:05 GMT
#1672
On June 08 2017 05:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:52 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:37 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

he effectively was, he just hopped off at the last minute to do some funsie shit.

erm no wait

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523517-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi-voting-thread?user=Blazinghand

No. at no point was his vote on fidei


He asked if he was needed pretty early and then when people said no just voted elsewhere.

But there's no vote. There's no pressure if there's no vote. It's like "I promise to do things". I think since BH didn't actually vote, he shouldn't gain town cred.

I think we should at least re-read Blazinghand's end of day and check very thoroughly if there was honest and real commitment to the Fidei lynch. The fact that his vote wasn't on Fidei makes me feel very uncomfortable.


I didn't commit to shit, I just said I'd swap if needed, decided I wasn't needed, voted vivax, and loled my way to the bank

Well at least I gave you a lot of town cred because I was super certain you pushed Fidei. That's what I get for not reading properly.


Yep, clearly you're to blame here.

Okay. Let's drop this.

Am I correct in thinking that you think HF is town? And I also assume HF thinks BH's town?


I think HF could well be scum. I do not extend a townread or a scumread to him. I am aware that it is inherently scummy of me not to have a strong position on HF, but basically it boils down to this: I think he has played well and actively and genially, and how I'd like town HF to play. I also think he's a slippery fucker who could do this as scum, regardless as to Vivax' alignment. He seems to think I'm town, which makes me even more suspicious of him, even though he's rate and has good reason. Yes, I'm paranoid. Yes, it's scummy of me not to give a solid read on HF. but this is what I think.



Actually, this kind of non-committment is so obviously "scummy" that my willingness to say this and put myself out there in order to tell the truth is a town-tell imo

But claiming your own town-tell means you're aware of it being a town-tell. It's not a "tell" if you're the one telling it.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 07 2017 21:05 GMT
#1673
On June 08 2017 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Also btdt we have to settle HF vs Vivax today nothing more nothing less.


There is no vivax vs hf. Regardless of vivax's alignment IT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT MINE. All we know is that he fake claimed, got rekt by my strats and then backed down.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 07 2017 21:06 GMT
#1674
On June 08 2017 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:04 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:31 Holyflare wrote:
Ls hit me up with a tmi read list.

I not scum?


I didn't say you were. Gimme your reads list, mafia.


Again you called me scum.....


I didn't call you scum.

Please, mafia, give me your read list.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 07 2017 21:07 GMT
#1675
On June 08 2017 06:05 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:56 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:52 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
[quote]
erm no wait

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523517-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi-voting-thread?user=Blazinghand

No. at no point was his vote on fidei


He asked if he was needed pretty early and then when people said no just voted elsewhere.

But there's no vote. There's no pressure if there's no vote. It's like "I promise to do things". I think since BH didn't actually vote, he shouldn't gain town cred.

I think we should at least re-read Blazinghand's end of day and check very thoroughly if there was honest and real commitment to the Fidei lynch. The fact that his vote wasn't on Fidei makes me feel very uncomfortable.


I didn't commit to shit, I just said I'd swap if needed, decided I wasn't needed, voted vivax, and loled my way to the bank

Well at least I gave you a lot of town cred because I was super certain you pushed Fidei. That's what I get for not reading properly.


Yep, clearly you're to blame here.

Okay. Let's drop this.

Am I correct in thinking that you think HF is town? And I also assume HF thinks BH's town?


I think HF could well be scum. I do not extend a townread or a scumread to him. I am aware that it is inherently scummy of me not to have a strong position on HF, but basically it boils down to this: I think he has played well and actively and genially, and how I'd like town HF to play. I also think he's a slippery fucker who could do this as scum, regardless as to Vivax' alignment. He seems to think I'm town, which makes me even more suspicious of him, even though he's rate and has good reason. Yes, I'm paranoid. Yes, it's scummy of me not to give a solid read on HF. but this is what I think.



Actually, this kind of non-committment is so obviously "scummy" that my willingness to say this and put myself out there in order to tell the truth is a town-tell imo

But claiming your own town-tell means you're aware of it being a town-tell. It's not a "tell" if you're the one telling it.


Potayto, Potahto
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 21:07 GMT
#1676
On June 08 2017 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 06:04 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2017 04:31 Holyflare wrote:
Ls hit me up with a tmi read list.

I not scum?


I didn't say you were. Gimme your reads list, mafia.


Again you called me scum.....


I didn't call you scum.

Please, mafia, give me your read list.

You calling me scum again what the fuck is wrong with you? You seriously can't be this serious......
##Vote: Holyflare
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 07 2017 21:08 GMT
#1677
On June 08 2017 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Also btdt we have to settle HF vs Vivax today nothing more nothing less.

This isn't HF vs Vivax anymore though. It's just Vivax vs his bad play. If "bad play" wins, he flips town, if not, he flips scum - or so, I guess you get the point
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 07 2017 21:09 GMT
#1678
On June 08 2017 06:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Also btdt we have to settle HF vs Vivax today nothing more nothing less.

This isn't HF vs Vivax anymore though. It's just Vivax vs his bad play. If "bad play" wins, he flips town, if not, he flips scum - or so, I guess you get the point

They were shit fighting since Day 1 we have to decide it today or not at all.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 07 2017 21:10 GMT
#1679
Heroes match starting, mafia attention reduced massively.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 07 2017 21:22 GMT
#1680
I like btdt
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