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On May 10 2017 06:30 Tumblewood wrote: whew for a second there i wasn't sure you were joking ls If I were to ping someone by entrance, I'd ping TW for this as the post really sounds a bit overdramatized in the game beginning context. It felt out of place anyway when I read it. His two followup posts also seem mimick-y. + Show Spoiler + And don't let this happen pls, if you are town hunt among the smallpostfolk first. On May 07 2017 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: You shouldn't, me Palmar and Holyflare will fuck up and kill each other and you'll just cruise to victory.  | ||
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On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote: I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it. I don't see what you see on any of the reads, but I'll probably just sheep what people say on LS. ???????? | ||
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On May 11 2017 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: Vivax how caught up are you? I want to talk to you about some stuff. Eh I'm looking into grack and tw mostly. HF doesn't seem like mafia, nor do rayn and Palmar at first glance. So I'm mostly not paying attention to the posts they adress at each other. So much for how caught up I am. Not fully, I'd like to see Grack explain his posts in the rayn convo cause they don't make much sense to me atm. What would you like to talk about | ||
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For starters I wanted to know if by similar posts you meant the quality posts you mentioned earlier or something else cause it just looks like something you put out there that simply isn't true. | ||
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On May 11 2017 05:00 Grackaroni wrote: I switched the names because Rayn wanted to know what quality contributions I had made and I was trying to show the standard that we were being compared to. (Fuba's filter) I don't actually think we were making high quality posts, just that other people weren't either. Okay that explains the stuff about quality posts of which I wasn't sure whether it was a joke. But this? I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it. You say that tumble and fuba had a similar reaction to yours,but fuba and TW didn't react at all to the knowledge that they're not in a town list,at that point, just you. So aside from this being defensive and looking like you're trying to mask your reaction by comparing it to theirs, it's also simply not true. | ||
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The reconstruction is currently: Rayn calls fuba and Damdred town. You ask how fuba would approach the game as town. TW asks what he sees in fuba. HF votes rayn. Then you say it all happened cause he left you out from the town list and mention the quality posts. So now I see a bit clearer, it was kind of hard to follow when out of context. Initially it looked to me like you said that they reacted like you when there really wasn't any similarity. You assumed TW, you and HF replied to rayn like that just cause you weren't in his townreads. And I disagree about that assumption. HF might have had his own reasons at the time, and TW might simply have wanted to know why fuba deserved a townread after two posts. The case in point is: I thought that you were making stuff up while overexplaining things when rayn asked you why you were focusing on something about him that in his opinion was irrelevant. | ||
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On May 11 2017 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Anyways i had a super shitty day at work so i am off to bed. I don't have much else to say atm in any case. Well your reads kind of reflect the shitty day rayn. No offense, but I think you're being sloppy and just following your gut. Not a problem cause tomorrow the game is going to look different yet again. Wish you a good recovery anyhow! | ||
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On May 11 2017 05:45 Grackaroni wrote: I guarantee one of Vivax/DF will be scum. Palmar just likes being an asshole. These two are just trying to hop onto the person burying themselves, and they both did a super weak job of pushing it. Without trying to be nitpicky, but if you think you're burying yourself, you should say so. As in, if you think you did scummy shit, then it's worth mentioning what you think that scummy shit was from your own perspective. It would help explain why you were so defensive earlier at the very least cause when I saw the post I answered with ??? to, I already wanted to go look for a gif of a folding chair collapsing. | ||
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On May 11 2017 05:52 Holyflare wrote: Why is df mafia? I think he had a legit good call out on you grack. You just dropped everything and ran away and it wasn't fight to the death tunnel grack. Was a good read. Well it still kinda is. Resistance *cough* | ||
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On May 11 2017 06:34 Damdred wrote: I powered through the thread while I was up. To start off questions @PrisonBreak (I believe), my initial assessment of LS scum etc was a joke. My follow up post of Rayns towniness was not a joke, it came from sort of bad reasoning as he can fake it potentially as scum. But I really liked that his first post was trying to discern who you were so that (presumably) he could better read you and come to a better conclusion. I would generally see thi scome from more town than scum as scum would not want that information really to come to life. But as I said it is partially a bad reason at that point. As to people who said Damdred can do this as scum, YES! I can, I have and I will do it as both alignments. I've always tried to shape my game where I can do whatever I want from solving the game (or trying to), giving up teammates etc as either alignment. Though I know I still have some ticks as mafia I have a hard time getting rid of. But kind of meh about DF (I believe it was) who only looked at me negatively because of it. As for my reads here we are: These are the people i'm ok reading town currently LS Rayn Palmar Prison Break Skynx Maybe town: Grack HF I would normally want to make a call about tumble, and my initial reaction to some of his off the collar commentary I think would come from his town game rather than his scum game. But I am horrid at looking at him so i'm just kind of ignoring him currently. I disliked DF so far, Vivax has been awkward in some of his postings so far but I am not sure that it makes him scum currently. Fuba is someone also that I think might be worth a look into later, initial reaction was he might be town just as a gut feeling. His reasoning for following PB I felt was a bit lakluster and was something i've seen mafia do to shift the blame to the person they sheep instead of taking personal responbility for it. Also him refusing to post reads to push the game forward bothered me, or rather him thinking they wouldn't push the game forward. I still sort of see him as a big bag of blah null for now. Currently I just kind of want to lynch DF for some below average postings for him and him picking on me :'( Yup you're town. And I agree about df. If I scumread people based on their entrance it'd be TW for his first post that sounded as if it had been a tragedy (or well, scummy thing) if LS called fuba scum for being second. Even if he didn't mention that it was a joke, every townie would have thought that it was a joke. TW wouldn't have, that's how I read it. And df cause I don't see the wiggle room thingy and it just looks like something to throw on top when really it all came down to gracks attitude being pretty submissive, and looking like he was avoiding conflict, Palmar mentioned him not being honest with his attitude on rayn (but that's not the point here so etc.). The point with df is rather that his first post combined with the followup seems like something many thought at the time about grack and I'll need the wiggle room thingy explainedfrom df cause he might have meant what Palmar said, but I don't think that Palmar was talking about wiggle room and df just kind of lazily called it that. Then throws a read on Palmar on top cuz why not, he's agreeing with him and proceeds to talk about random looking stuff instead of grack who he seemed to have a stronger read on. | ||
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On May 11 2017 09:05 Tumblewood wrote: plus every post I make about you seems to create 2 more posts that I have to respond to You can do better than what you're doing now which is just completely half assed. You don't need to have an overview of the entire game at all time but at least some parts that should be more important to you than others. Instead of one good opinion you give 10 lazy ones cause you think that it's what's to be expected from you. That said, it's one more reason to lynch you for me. | ||
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On May 11 2017 09:33 Tumblewood wrote: ah yes, we are playing in that world, where everyone has complete cases on their #1 scumread and townread by mid-d1 No we're playing in the world where people who believe what they say (ie townies) also give the right amount of importance to it, barring them getting distracted by something. And idk 100% if your post about LS was serious but it doesn't look like it's supposed to be funny so I assumed yes. | ||
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On May 10 2017 16:01 sicklucker wrote: or maybe he does not care about your feelings I'm currently (re) reading stuff, I think the game is pretty fun to read so far. I'm like 80 % sure you are town just based on the Grack convo. But the above post showed up here + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/521332-generic-mini-mafia-ii?page=6#112 and doesn't look very town sickluckery or represent the situation well at all. He kind of goes down in all the noise you and Grack were producing but it's where I think we should be looking. Would be nice to talk a bit about df as well he also feels a bit under the radar. Kind of talking more than reading atm which isn't good so back in a bit. And Grack why change the quote of fuba to a quote from HF which I also just noticed? It's funny mostly but reason? | ||
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On May 11 2017 16:53 sicklucker wrote: vivax your not allowed to vote me day one since everyday 1 I hard defend you saying your a bad day one lynch assohle Calling in favours are we ? That won't mean that I'm just going to shut up about you. You're very unusual currently. | ||
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On May 11 2017 17:11 Holyflare wrote: I'm not red though  that smile tho | ||
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On May 11 2017 16:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax hasn't even read his top scumreads posts.... And people call him town. This game... Btw I wasn't sure whether to reply to this, but fyi: I don't read the entire game in one swoop and then the curtain opens and everything is obvious and clear to me. I get back to it step by step, when I begin I often find one thing that piques my interest, talk about it a bit, and then decide if I keep it up as relevant or discard it. Sometimes that thing is so little/convoluted that I miss out on other stuff that I find later and then that puts everthing into another context etc. So, you're making a fuss out of nothing there and you should know that it's how I roll. I'm pretty much NOT known for not missing out on anything as town. | ||
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And if this rayn and HF shitfiesta goes on I'm just going to stop reading both your posts. If you got a case on HF for something in particular put it out there, don't engage and bring it back up later cause he reacts to suspicion compulsively as both alignments. There's just too much stuff being produced while possible little red diamonds remain unnoticed. The average scum player doesn't make as many mistakes with their reads as town in my experience and if they make them it's cause other townies made them first. | ||
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Also, in a nutshell, he hasn't been hunting scum. This is the best case I think I have and I'm voting accordingly. | ||
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It might not be super convincing to you cause maybe you're tunneled on someone in a feud, but I think that in the process of yelling at each other you tend to forget what to really look for in scum. I'm sort of sure that skynx is scum for the reasons in the post above. | ||
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On May 11 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote: You don't plan shenannies, they just happen. I have a few people I'd like to lynch/wouldn't care about flipping though so I'll see how it goes. Don't actually know when deadline is. If you try to start shenannies you're mafia, if you don't, you're town. Good deal? | ||
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And I don't want to make a call on HF yet. I just want to make sure he doesn't mess around with the wagons at deadline | ||
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On May 11 2017 22:33 LightningStrike wrote: Let me reprhase that for you: More afk relative to the rest of the game. He has been active enough to be readable of sort, DF too. Fuba would be afk enough not to be readable. | ||
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On May 11 2017 22:37 LightningStrike wrote: If you say but I doubt it will be clear who their partner are if the yare scum that my biggest concern lynching afkish players. That seems like a weak argument or could you tell me who HFs partners were ->from his filter<- if we lynched HF now and he flipped scum??? | ||
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On May 11 2017 23:39 darthfoley wrote: If anyone has questions for me, fire away. I'm an open book titled "If ya mislynch me, ya dun goofed." So ask my friends! Can you take a look at skynx and tell me if I'm onto something cause my caselet on him is being ignored and I would like to know if it's cause he's really scum or my points are really bad from another perspective. | ||
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On May 12 2017 11:10 sicklucker wrote: how am i both your top scum read and your top town read? Top notch. Finally someone acknowledges I made a case on scum  | ||
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Oh well, I regret a bit not being around yesterday to turn the tides around. | ||
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But sure I'll see how he tries to explain that away. | ||
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On May 12 2017 14:41 Grackaroni wrote: You guys think he decided to put SL on the top of his town list and then forgot about it in the same post? I don't think I've ever seen anyone confusing the two. Just from a psychological point of view it doesn't make sense, as bloated as it may sound. But two initials are really not vulnerable to typos. Unless they smoke some special herbs in turkey. So yes I think the reason is simply that skynx put a bunch of bs reads out there. | ||
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It's the usual wishful thinking when I really want to find something to nail a scum with. | ||
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On May 12 2017 15:07 Holyflare wrote: Promise me you'll lynch rayn when I'm gone I'm considering it cause I've seen him do the tilt and quit stuff as scum before and I have a hard time believing that he's honestly reading me as mafia. But then again I like to look for the small fries first so later on we can fight it out between more active posters which comes closer to the mafia experience I "grew up" with :p | ||
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On May 12 2017 15:19 Grackaroni wrote: It was meant to be funny but failed. You know it irks me that this game your intention of trolling seems more exacerbated than your ambition to find scum cause that's how I recall you playing GoT mafia. | ||
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On May 12 2017 18:54 Skynx wrote: How nitpicky can you get? I mean LS top town obviously, why would anyone with some sense make ls top town? If you actually read the thread you'll see our interactions with LS around the time of that post. In fact that list is just an official version of previous one in the page back but no body's listening to you anyway so who cares. I'll give you a cookie at end of the game if you lynch me so keep trying. Challenge accepted. While you are here kind of just blowing off steam you could also re evaluate things or explain why you even scumread Damdred and TR DF, cause the reasons given previously I see in your filter are pretty bad. | ||
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On May 12 2017 19:04 sicklucker wrote: wow your vote was so scummy tho now i know what hf is going on about Who are you talking about | ||
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On May 12 2017 19:05 Palmar wrote: you are insane rayn, but I think you're town. If you're mafia that's really top level play. Ye I agree about that after that post. Rayn just needs some work, drink and korpiklaani and he will not be so perkele anymore | ||
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On May 12 2017 05:51 fuba wrote: I don't really want DF. Also don't want grack. SL definitely out? From my current point of view this post is awful cause SL is my only top town read atm | ||
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On May 12 2017 19:51 Palmar wrote: Even if you are right this particular post is not scummy at all because townies are wrong all the time and you know this vivax. But townies look like they care. Fuba is pretty much the most half assed person in the game and all I keep seeing is active players going at each others throats cause guess what, when you produce something you induce something. Fuba basically produces nothing and cruises by and you can't even call him mafia off a particular something cause he's just there saying hello from time to time, leaning over the counter and asking who's for dinner today in a boring undertone | ||
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On May 12 2017 20:06 Holyflare wrote: So you're saying you can't call him mafia for him not voting off sl when his scum read for sl disappeared? Or that he was around for the lynch and had no input in the wagons? You say there's no reason at all other than cruising? The only reason I could currently apply to him being mafia is that his activity is very spotty and that he has suggested a townie for lynch. And if those are the only reasons, it's a bad thing. | ||
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On May 12 2017 20:14 Holyflare wrote: So you'll happily call skynx mafia for a typo on ls/sl but won't call fuba mafia for voting someone he didn't seem to scum read instead of any current wagon? Huh I'm currently reading backwards from EoD, what did I miss? Fuba was sheeping PBs case on SL and later asked if SL was out of the question seemingly not caring much. Where did he vote for someone he wasn't sring? | ||
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As for why I'm weird, I don't know. Maybe feeling a bit down these days,but I don't like talking about bad personal stuff on forums. | ||
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On May 12 2017 05:01 Tumblewood wrote: rayn, grack, ls, probably prison break are all town. Palmar Hf vivax sl not worth lynching d1 for various reasons. anyone else I would at least consider today. but fuba promised to do stuff and didn't so I am sticking on him unless you try to go lynch like grack Can someone translate this? | ||
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On May 12 2017 21:31 Prison Break wrote: also when fuba joined it he got a lot of pressure for it, possible chainsaw defenses there to protect sicklurker Oh you think they are both mafia? Why did fubz pick out your case out of all the possible targets he could have picked in the thread especially? | ||
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On May 12 2017 21:59 Prison Break wrote: No only sicklurker but it's possible that at least one of the people who attacked fuba, is a scummate of sicklurker I don't think sicklurker and fuba are ever scum together here, I rule that out The only person coming to mind who mentioned fuba agreeing with you seeming lackluster is damdred and he's a dead townie, so the chainsaw defense thingy looks a bit ornamental, in the room. Unless you know of somebody else whom I'd love you to mention. | ||
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On May 12 2017 21:55 LightningStrike wrote: I just woke up: I honestly seen people mix up me and SL before since we both use similar short names. Also rayn's big post seems questionable? Also fuba's vote actually look weird especially considering he didn't really make much of a read on sl beforehand if I read his filter correctly. Why is rayn's post questionable? | ||
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I just really see no benefit for a mafia to do what he did. Scum is more of a calculating game imo. That very rarely involves "meme look at me doing weird things." | ||
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On May 12 2017 23:24 Holyflare wrote: Lol. Ls is following what I say even. What has the world come to? I found your filter pretty entertaining tbh. Don't really see what Palmar finds boring about them. But his posts are pretty stylish too with less superlatives. I am perfectly happy just basking in literary gems like massive boring snoozefests, or refined like a bludgeon can be lmao. | ||
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On May 12 2017 23:51 Palmar wrote: Why did we lynch Damdred by the way? I always think the guy is scum so I sort of get it but aren't other people meant to be better at reading him than me? Also while I read, can someone give me info on how many mafia were on the Damdred wagon? DF, skynx, LS kinda pushed him, then drunk HF showed up and said yolo | ||
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On May 12 2017 23:56 Palmar wrote: But that rayn switching off DF with 100% guarantee of not being able to lynch Vivax is super stuff. Like if he did that as town (because his big post actually reads like a townie post) I'm going to have to fly out to Finland and talk about his feelings, which is torture to the Finnish. No it's not super stuff it just looks like it is but then it's just random BS that catches everyone's attention. Robik did the same in imperial and then he flipped cop. Can't forget it cause I went completely ham over it. I'm more of a fan of the bigger picture. And tbh I have a hard time picturing you seeing this as particularly relevant and that only after being reminded of it by HF. You are a hound for this type of thing but you just keep looking like you don't give a fudge. | ||
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And the subservient thread cop post by HF. Now all I hear about is rayn this rayn that. I literally ctrl-f his filter for "work" and I get a general idea for why he's so mad. | ||
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His biggish post sounded kinda townie and tbh when someone says I'm going to work and then I'm going to drink it does raise a few eyebrows about their current state. I'm making a lot of assumptions here.but whatevs, I'm mostly posting at maximum laziness atm. Tomorrow maybe someone will ruffle my feathers and the dam will break. I could use a good whipping. | ||
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I think my initial reasons I posted before peacing out on D1 are pretty good. Didn't really delve much deeper into the stuff you posted afterwards but it looks more confrontational so that looks better at glance. Then again I don't like that you show up right now and the first thing you want to talk about is yourself. That should be your lowest priority as town, more than 2 days away from a lynch. | ||
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On May 13 2017 00:59 Skynx wrote: It is relevant since you've done nothing of value other than your confident push on me. If you cannot even stand behind your reasons I'm gona follow rayn and lynch you tomorrow. Well I answered it already. Now what? Do I have to dive your filter and find more things to accuse you with or what do you want from me? I feel like there's a lot more going on than just you. I'm expecting answers from 3 half afk people, basking in Palmar's high quality posts, reminding myself that I spontaneously TR Grack for superficial reasons, putting what rayn did into another possible perspective, and being paranoid about LS cause him and Damdred are BFFs usually. The only guy I'm leaving out from my head atm is darthfoley. | ||
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1 day and 8 hours since your last post and this is all you have to say? | ||
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On May 13 2017 15:51 Grackaroni wrote: So..... who do you guys think died? Why don't you just tell us | ||
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On May 13 2017 16:35 Grackaroni wrote: What happened to your Skynx read? I don't like your wording. Am I implying anywhere that it changed? Should it have priority over other reads? | ||
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On May 13 2017 16:45 Grackaroni wrote: You wanted to kill Skynx yesterday. Now you want one of Fuba/Rayn. It wasn't meant to be a hostile question but you've been edgy to me ever since I called you the red banana. Then you should ask me why them over him and not "what happened to your read" implying that I forgot about it. | ||
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On May 13 2017 17:56 sicklucker wrote: ah its a joke pretty shit joke tbh | ||
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On May 13 2017 18:26 sicklucker wrote: Darthfoleys scum list raynpelikoneet Skynx fuba Updated for accuracy | ||
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He had a bit of room to do a turnaround and start posting constructively again, but with another posting streak like that after he said he was going to work and drink, I believe he has shown his true colors. And this isn't a punishment lynch to say that I want to lynch people who are being dicks. I want to lynch people who are dicks to a point where it's a scum tell for them, which applies to rayn. | ||
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On May 14 2017 17:35 fuba wrote: I thought you were talking about me in the second paragraph. Was rayn working and drinking tonight, too? He said he was drinking before flaming away at HF as well but I mean the big post. Either way, town rayn would usually not be so pants on to seriously suggest Palmar, HF and me as a team, and if he gets angry he gets angry for a reason (typically not being listened to), not actively insulting people unprovoked. The liquidmania qualifier is a good example of what to expect from town rayn. The day he got lynched he posted a big case against Palmar (both were town tho). His final post, when all efforts were futile and he ended up getting lynched (while I was mafia scum chilling in the back eating popcorn). On February 24 2017 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: So here we are with Vivax who apparently thinks Palmar can be fakeclaiming as town to get a townie lynched. And thats in his opinion BRILLIANT. Malongo seems to be thinking the same. Then we have bill murray who says "if palmar is claiming for reals i think rayn is scum and palmar town, if palmar is fakeclaiming i think rayn is scum and palmar town. But both are null." Then we have damdred who nowadays afks the shit out of every game. I am sorry FF, i cant be bothered with a game where 5 out of 7 ppl are mafia.  so do what the fuck ever you guys want to, idk why i even thought playing this game was a good idea...His anger is just completely different from this game. It's not the balls to the wall aggression towards some players, it's more like a guy running in circles shouting at god why it didn't rain bread today. Forgive me the sloppy analogies. So mostly, I'm reading rayn scum based on tone atm, which isn't ideal to convey in a case based on posts. | ||
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If fuba is town this game he failed us miserably. Same for rayn. And I'm gonna call it that HF is town and I don't know what Palmar is doing. There's rayn and fuba who have have a huge lynch me sign and he's going for 1) A guy who can be a good town leader 2) Someone who is only going to get caught by the paranoia of others if he's mafia. Meanwhile being upset about rayn's behaviour yet not drawing any conclusions about it, instead voting HF. The posts there lack assertivity but I don't think he's necessarily mafia, I would like him not to try to push for HF today tho. | ||
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There isn't even a case on HF it seems like a Hail mary lynch. And fuba doesn't look town in the slightest. I would like that explained cause since his "comeback" all he's talked about is himself. In his drunk AMA apparently he doesn't feel adressed when I discuss who to lynch. He sits there like "I'm just waiting for someone to ask me something if he needs appeasing but otherwise I don't give a damn about finding the solution to this game". Actually I want to lynch fuba more now all things summed up and rayn sounding rather sincere in the big night post, but awful afterwards. | ||
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I feel fit today I need a sparkling discussion, this is the real massive boring snoozefest atm. And Palmar you will really have to explain to me why you want to kill HF when D1 literally you said "if he's alive by D3, don't talk and lynch him". What would ever cause you to throw that overboard to go for the big score instead. It must be a really strong argument I'm not seeing atm. | ||
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If fuba didn't just barely play and on top of that rather poorly focusing all his posts on explaining himself instead of ignoring it and just going out and trynig to find scum sincerely, And rayn didn't just chain rage in a way that looked fake cause I can see him tilting over something in particular, but then settling down and coming back level headed hunting scum, Then I would pretty much locate the scum team somewhere among Grack/Skynx/ and eeeeeh maybe LS (weakest of the bunch and off the top of my head). Cause they all behave like scum on a common ground and don't do things that expose them to torches and pitchforks. But right now we have thee two noisemakers called rayn and fuba we pretty much have to lynch cause if they're scum they're just getting away after doing a bunch of stuff that they would pretty much do as scum. Like disrupting in rayn's case and barely playing and just generally looking bored in fubas case. But on the other hand they do things that look bad for them and hence are pretty much in a scum "do not do" book. For me that ends up resulting in the decision on whether to assume I'm just going for two scummy townies, or whether I pursue people I would scumread if it wasn't for the two special snowflakes we have on the table today. Hence, if they are town, they failed this town and really need to step their shit up today which would help me cause I think the hot stock are LS/Skynx/grack and we might just be distracted by a lazy bum and a guy who's lost it for no reason and reminds me of his mafia flame fests. | ||
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No, grack and skynx sound like mafia. HF is just HF but since he isn't pushing doubt in the wrong places I feel safe assuming he's town. He has his teeth buried into fuba atm instead of just being argumentative with everyone for the sake of being argumentative. He almost always sounds the same you can't tone read him imo just see if he's pushing the wrong people and being obnoxious with pointless rebuttals. I wish I could be as confident as I'm sounding but it's more or less my method of reading him and I'm rolling with it, always keeping in mind that I could simply be wrong. You'd be more convincing just saying "cause he is HF" | ||
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On May 15 2017 00:35 fuba wrote: Vivax is the one person in the thread who should have 100% been able to step in and validate what I was saying to HF. He is the one person who should 100% be able to step in and make it so that I don't have to spend the entire day defending myself against weird vote-correcting host shenanigans. And instead of doing that at any point whatsoever, he decides I'm scum for doing what he, as town, could and would 100% do on his own. Either he is letting HF and I argue with each other in confusion, or he hasn't even read anything we've been writing. Either way, he is scum. youre lucky im phoneposting. what should i care what you have been discussing with hf when my argument has nothing to do with that? this looks just like you erecting a straw man. fact remains, previous to this post you havent been scumhunting. you have clung to calling sl scum and havent ree evaluatef openly for a lobg time after. then you spent an etwrnity of posts just talking about yourself. but that doäidnt drive the game forwaed at all. for otherw but especislly for yourself. when around drunk i was talking about rayn anf all that didnt even bother you cause you dont feellike you have something to say unless otherw attack you. if its your town game its very poor, so you have to be lynched. | ||
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On May 15 2017 02:01 Skynx wrote: I dunno man nothing makes sense anymore this game this is where real men shine and dont sit in a corner eating their fibgernails. wwhat do you thinkk games were like 6 years ago? complete anarchy, wild west. sometimes you got the urge to just kick prople off a bridge for how assholeish this game was begore everyone grew older and more sensible. where is your ambition this game?? pretty much why i think youre scum since that meek startoff | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:00 Skynx wrote: You know what, Vivax not trying to kill me after throwing shit on every opportunity prolly makes him more mafia than HF/fuba so ##Vote: Vivax. If I vote you it means I want you to die. Do you want me to want you to die? | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:03 Grackaroni wrote: I think I'm going to sheep Tumblewood. I didn't see a single post from fuba that made me feel he was town. I reread him a bit now that I'm back home and he did good to remind me of his conversation with HF cause he sounded rather townie there. Good recall of the way he thought is a good town tell I just hope he's not faking it very well. I was a bit too stubborn at him, so I think I'll do skynx if I feel like that after a reread. | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:04 Skynx wrote: I don't really understand you. You have made it clear that you want me dead in half of your posts and you are not voting me. Is it probably because you already know I'm town? Well you are saying that I'm sitting here yelling skynx while voting no one. But it's wrong, I'm here yelling skynx while also yelling about a bunch of other guys so that puts things into perspective, you are only complaining that you don't have my full attention. | ||
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On May 15 2017 04:48 LightningStrike wrote: Idk honestly I just think he's mafia independent of anything. I don't think I've ever seen anyone write this. LS are you 100% sure that rayn is your only scumread? | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:03 Grackaroni wrote: I think I'm going to sheep Tumblewood. I didn't see a single post from fuba that made me feel he was town. Does the stuff I said and HF thought make you think he is town? | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:24 LightningStrike wrote: Well I got HF as a scumlean but i don't think HF could be scum with rayn tbh. And no one else? That doesn't even count cause you just said you aren't scumreading HF. Really? Just take a wild guess for two more pls. | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:31 Palmar wrote: well, he could be, but he's not going to be lynched right now. What a great way of saying nothing | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:56 Skynx wrote: So this should have been the moment where Damdred kinda comes back and picks up the game after being called out. Instead we get this and few more posts that don't really do anything. If rayn is full town why grack and hf is different? What particular thing makes him stand out of the trio? And rest is just similar style soft accusations or townleans. Just say they haven't done much to have a definitive read? I mean you telling us not liking DF doesn't help anyone because we don't know the basis. Same with fuba and vivax. I feel like this post is like a massive effort to make ppl feel you have reads and you're scumhunting but it actually doesn't say anything. I keep reading this and am aware of how awful this sounds, considering it has been posted rather shortly before deadline and skynx was simply one of the last voters. Like this post alone when you read what he's accusing Damdred of sounds like bs mafia arguments to me to just have an excuse to vote for someone. | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:34 LightningStrike wrote: I don't know >.< Maybe Palmar but only if Rayn flips town and on because on haven't done much. who is your top town? | ||
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Then we pick one of those who don't at random and win gaem | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:42 Palmar wrote: I will vote Grack, HF, and possibly rayn. I don't think I'll vote skynx. I actually think he's town now. Would you sign an agreement where we lynch you if Grack flips town? | ||
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Give me a percentage of confidence on Grack | ||
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Come on guys. | ||
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There was a wagon going, mafia skynx didn't know where to put his vote, so he cooked up his own little case based on one post. End of story. There is no hint of past evaluation. | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:51 Skynx wrote: I could've just consolidated on DF as mafia last minute lol you don't make any sense. It didn't matter you could have consolidated on anybody for that matter. Correct. This isn't about the who you're voting, but what you're writing to justify it. And I don't believe it. | ||
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On May 07 2017 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: You shouldn't, me Palmar and Holyflare will fuck up and kill each other and you'll just cruise to victory. | ||
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On May 15 2017 06:14 Skynx wrote: Btw I'm so not definitely mafia with Grack, just so you guys know. Did you a think a lot about it? | ||
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I'm even more surprised that they also still wanted to kill each other afterwards. They're just both town I think. | ||
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On May 15 2017 07:01 Grackaroni wrote: You guys didn't offer any good reasoning for him being town. Don't act like you all gave overwhelming reasoning to save him and I ignored you. I asked you which posts you liked and you said you liked his response to you. I expected mafia would put resistance to being lynched and didn't see anything townie in his response. What was my reasoning for him being town? | ||
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Tomorrow we will hold a mayor election if it's ok with our host Palmar. | ||
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Also pretty much he has yelled at me for not voting him, pushed me, and then told people not to go off fuba. And Palmar is just blind on the skynx side. There are so many nonsensical, weird posts from Skynx that you've got to be god awful at this game to not see he is mafia and he just replied to them noticing nothing of the sort. Like this one: On May 15 2017 05:49 Skynx wrote: I'm trying but imagine a case where I get 2 more votes on Vivax, mafia will just consolidate on fuba and get credit. | ||
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Also zero compliance in just seeing how many are actually around to switch their votes it's like everyone is glued to their chairs with their vote. Also when I put arguments out for skynx being mafia nobody picks up on them, nobody. And I'm keeping it extra simple this game. Meanwhile you Palmar and rayn only are busy trying to kill each other since the game started so you pretty much lost all credibility you had cause it's so stupid to do the same mistake you announced you would make. Insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results etc. I keep wondering if you get kicks off it just tunneling the shit out of each other. But by now of the three I think Palmar has the best shot at being mafia as well. And yet tomorrow I will only vote skynx. | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:00 Skynx wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Vivax On May 15 2017 05:46 Skynx wrote: Shennanying is not the right play here imo. fuba has to go. On May 15 2017 06:00 Skynx wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Holyflare Palmar until you see this you are mafia. When you see it maybe I'll think about it. Everyone else is probably just bad but if you don't see this you are mafia. | ||
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On May 15 2017 19:32 Holyflare wrote: Was skynx on fuba? 11 minutes for a yes/no question that's verified by a glance at one votecount? | ||
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On May 15 2017 20:05 Skynx wrote: Just let it go Vivax. I have like no effect in this game, and we have been lynching townies with 3-3 votes max, no towncircle at all, does that tell you Skynx is mafia? No, prolly 2-3 of those usual town leaders if not all is mafia. Your vote is your effect and you haven't been placing it on your scumread you piled it onto HF instead cause you were expecting fuba to be a mislynch. | ||
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On May 15 2017 20:11 Palmar wrote: So I read Skynx filter. I'm torn. I was hoping to come away with an easy townlean, but meh. The problem is that he has just done so very, very little this game. Even at 6 pages of filter it feels very filled with just questions and small talk. However he did take some rather bold stances in the early game and he has been continually updating people on his gamestate, so maybe he is town. If anything I would say leave it be for now. The early game is what looked awful already during D1. I guess you are mafia | ||
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On May 15 2017 20:15 Skynx wrote: Lets say im scum, how does that make sense for me to not vote fuba? I mean i was almost getting lynched. Am I supposed to explain you your own mindset now? I don't even know why you voted me off in the first place and most of all are the only guy to struggle TRing me. Like a carbon copy of Grack during D1. Why would you push for everyone to stay on fuba and then vote HF out of the blue??? | ||
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But the initial argument is that he scumread fuba and wanted him lynched pretty badly and he actually ended up placing it on HF during that wifom minute. So that makes it look like he simply didn't care who got lynched there. Also here's a recap for what I wrote during D1 which imho are all pretty good scumtells. For Palmar apparently it's the opposite and him being so confident isn't scummy cause he would be afraid of showing TMI. He's saying that cause he's displaying TMI, but Palmar says he isn't mafia cause as mafia he would think that he would be displaying TMI, so according to Palmar no mafia ever shows TMI cause they never make mistakes. + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2017 19:26 Vivax wrote: Is skynx a mafia god or just mafia? He's confident AF into townreads on good scum players without the big posts that usually accompany them when he's town. On May 11 2017 22:18 Vivax wrote: Skynx has been more contributive than fuba in darthfoley but in my opinion in the wrong ways. I just don't see how he jumps to conclusions so quickly without a shade of doubt about events and reads. Like his rayn vs Grack thingy and his townread list. Feels to me like he's just getting on the good side of the most active players and doesn't try to fight his TMI in order to not ruffle any feathers. Most of his reads lack explanation and meta wise I have seen him raise good points when he was town, I also have been always able to correctly identify him as town but you will have to take my word for that. Also, in a nutshell, he hasn't been hunting scum. This is the best case I think I have and I'm voting accordingly. On May 11 2017 22:24 Vivax wrote: I was thinking of lynching the least contributive like df, fuba. Then realized that skynx has been sort of more contributive than them. But then I also realized that he has been the scum sort of contributive, polished and too correct and sort of laid back (doesn't apply to HF when he's scum) and all that stuff came to mind. It might not be super convincing to you cause maybe you're tunneled on someone in a feud, but I think that in the process of yelling at each other you tend to forget what to really look for in scum. I'm sort of sure that skynx is scum for the reasons in the post above. | ||
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On May 15 2017 21:34 Palmar wrote: Can you do me a favor Vivax? I need you to pretend, for this exercise, that you have a green check on me. Aka, I'm confirmed town. I want to know how you think when you're in my world because you can't double check my conclusions while thinking I may be mafia. Now, with the "knowledge" that I am 100% town, can you give me your read and feelings about Holyflare. Is it possible that I am wrong on him being mafia if I know he's basically only tried to kill townies in my world. rayn: probably town damdred: town fuba: town me: town I think this mostly covers what hf has tried to accomplish this game. Is there a chance he's just wrong (in the palmar = town world). Because if you can convince me he's not mafia, the game becomes exponentially easier. Fine. I laid out already at one point why I thought he was town, what's giving me a halt is the following, possibly more as I read on: On May 11 2017 06:57 Holyflare wrote: My point of view is that rayn didn't like what you said and you had a massive boring snoozefest that I didn't read where you explained your post multiple times and rayn no doubt used dumb analogies to try and get his point across. You just repeatedly explained yourself and had no bite back and didn't even bother getting into my points on rayn. You were having an argument with rayn for the sake of having an argument rather than figuring it out with other people even though they were present. Then rayn stopped pushing you and you didn't care and you did nothing more and qq left when palmar insulted you. On May 11 2017 08:32 Holyflare wrote: You guys are boring. Lynch tw or rayn plz. First thing that I don't understand here is how post #1 sounds like he's reading Grack as scum or presenting arguments for him being scum and then concludes that someone entirely else is scum. TW for "quite blatantly throwing a jab at his direction" and rayn cause what the hell do I know since you three are always finding reasons to kill each other. Either way I would expect him to have scumread Grack past that post so I can't figure out why it didn't happen. | ||
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On May 15 2017 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah why would you since you're on it and mafia. Well you're wrong so there's that. I can offer you to help you lynch my scummates then, but not me first. | ||
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On May 15 2017 22:43 Holyflare wrote: Like your argument is that i literally say grack is doing a scummy thing and then forget that read 3 posts later and not want to lynch him Which is overwhelmingly my town meta of seeing something more egregious and voting the fuck out of it Unless your argument is that I'm shit at mafia You know, this post is only true if Grack is town. | ||
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On May 15 2017 23:05 Holyflare wrote: Holy fuck read the game you pleb. I'm calling you mafia BECAUSE of the lynches and your play this game. I've stated this numerous times. You haven't even read what I've said and this confirms it. I have reevaluated at every single stage of this game. Rayn because of day 1. After dropping fuba, evaluating state of the game and stances on lynches because of major afk on wagons. Every single point. I think he means this attitude. You could just reply, "aahh i dont know maybe I jumped the gun on that part, that part etc." but you avoid the introspection and jump over to accusation like here. Try again maybe it will work next time. | ||
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His mind control trick where I am on a far away with a green checked Palmar is working pretty well for me. | ||
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On May 15 2017 23:12 Holyflare wrote: Because i pay attention to the game and see him afk all day posting nonsense to return at deadline and try to lynch me after being literally one of two people actually playing the game. Just like you and him in haunted mansion 3 All over again. But you are always playing the game also as mafia you easily rack up the largest filter and overshadow every other person that only plays it in chill mode. | ||
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On May 15 2017 23:20 Holyflare wrote: Look I'm having a bad time. Can we just focus elsewhere for a bit? I'm willing to compromise on that at least. Really? Those were two amazing pages I feel refreshed and kind of dazed. I can see a bit of everyone's point of view. But more leaning towards a Palmar lynch after sucking everything in. Could just be the two heavyweights breathing down his neck and that I felt like he asked the impossible from me (convincing him that HF is town when I barely have enough confidence to tell). We've got time so I think I'll postpone the decision and just keep sucking in a bit of the good parts of the game. | ||
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I think that if you ignored each others alignments and decided to just find a common ground to find at least two other mafia, it would be more productive. Cause all I've seen this game is you suggesting to lynch the other, not getting it, and everyone else just doing whatever the fuck they want cause they're already used to you bickering like old hags. It's a bit late for that two lynches in but I think we could still salvage something by pretending that none of us 4 are mafia and just looking for two scummers in the rest. | ||
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His D1 LS "scumread" looks a bit odd to me. He wants to kill him cause he's not going to be townread by him. On May 11 2017 18:48 sicklucker wrote: well I dont think hes a very easy to read mafia so hes a great rng lynch, some solid day one stuff really that wont be the wrong play ever. Ls same thing but hes really awful here for his standards. Also he will never town read me for the entire game so thats another huge con to keep him around. for the sake of town you know It's by far not damning, the intention just disappears afterwards. I dunno, D1 reads are naturally shallow. More worryin that all he talks about during this night are vig shots. It's possible and something I want to believe that rayn, HF and Palmar are all town and skynx, Grack and one of LS and SL are mafia. PB is pretty much like conf town to me and Tumble looks pretty townie too and I don't want to check again to preserve my sanity. | ||
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I think skynx already falls into the pattern given the time between these two posts: On May 13 2017 12:05 Skynx wrote: On May 15 2017 01:09 Skynx wrote: I kinda lost interest in this game but from the top of my head i think the team is Vivax,HF, fuba. Grack rayn Palmar LS sl PB TW Should be town HF and Vivax are more dangerous so they should be lynched before fuba all day long. I cba with stating reasons sorry. Post 1: End of night 1. Post 2: Shortly before EoD D2. Obviously with the apologetic tone and a proper excuse for not posting for so long. Not a townie tone imho. I think LS and Grack also have such timings. Grack has been posting very consistently during D1 racking up 6 pages of filter. Since N2 he produced two. LS similarly, but too lazy to dig up the timestamps. He posted a blob of meta on himself when rayn called him scum in between the night and his decision to push for rayn. Looks sketchy overall, also while I was questioning him EoD one answer didn't even make sense and he seemed to have holes in his reads and was content with not having a complete picture. SL idk, I actually felt like he was the towniest of the bunch. But I feel like I'm bad at reading him and reading his last mafia game didn't give me too many new insights. | ||
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On May 16 2017 01:37 Tumblewood wrote: why don't you mention pb in this? are you just writing him off as town? I remember him being sparse but good when he posts I said I townread him just in the post above. And when he posts he sounds very motivated and not half assed. With LS you have the feeling that he doesn't have a complete picture. With skynx you have the feeling that he is simply not having fun. But that's not how he looks as town. And with Grack there's the impression that he also doesn't have much to care about. Prime example is him not reevaluating fuba yesterday, and his skynx vote looking completely meaningless in light that he's not doing anything about him when he's a topic and just lurking instead. | ||
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On May 12 2017 03:46 darthfoley wrote: this is the only thing in your entire filter that indicates you think anyone is scum, but you give yourself an out by saying your opinion could change with a second reading. vivax is right in the sense that I don't see how you've scum hunted at all this game. you claim that mafia is sitting back and relaxing, yet you come in the thread at a very opportune time to defend yourself and not actively participate in anything else that is going on in the thread. 3 out of 5 of your town reads have a possibility of being lynched (Grack, HF, rayn) yet you do nothing to steer the conversation away from them and onto anyone else. You have a good chance of being mafia | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:38 Vivax wrote: And what is "and on because on haven't done much." I don't get it | ||
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On May 11 2017 04:57 Skynx wrote: Who feels like talking to me? I feel left out. HF why didn't you keep going on Grack after this? Same reasons Palmar said Gracks balance between troll and seriousness early on didn't make sense so this was a valid point. On May 11 2017 05:00 Skynx wrote: I'm curious because at that point Grack was for sure more mafia than rayn and I like rayns posts overall except for that list. In the first quote you see skynx agreeing with both Palmar and HF about Gracks balance. So he puts the question out there why HF isn't pursuing him further. The second quote I don't even know, he says that Grack is more mafia than rayn (??), then says he likes rayns post but thinks his list is shit (maybe cause Grack was green in it?). Overall pretty awkward and shallow. On May 11 2017 05:05 Skynx wrote: To be honest I don't even know why I'm chasing this cuz all parties mentioned here are town. I'll reread others a tiny bit. Here he realizes that his posts aren't achieving anything cause apparently everyone he's talked about is a townread of his, yet just above he said Grack appeared more scummy than rayn yet concludes they're both town (??) and that he's wasting time. He calls peoples arguments good but they don't influence his reads in the same way at all. to be continued | ||
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On May 11 2017 05:13 Skynx wrote: This is quite bad. If he feels like elaborating on reads why not do it? You do not want to progress the game? Super bad reasoning blaming rest of the eventualities bad to follow a simple reasoning to sheep a 2 post intro (no disrespect PB i like you ).Here he's falling for scum bait hook line and sinker he just sees what fuba wrote which is superficially scummy and could simply ask him what his reads are yet the accusation that he's openly not sharing them seems more important to him. Bs argument. On May 11 2017 05:14 Skynx wrote: Pls stop, if not people are gona follow HF into mislynching you, then we're gona realise it was grack all along and mislynch him aswell and then blame HF for everything into clean sweep for mafia. This might probably even be true if all we know is wrong so far cause this guy somehow might have had excellent information and confidence on top tier scum players right in the early game which was already part of my initial case. Also idk what the point is of telling rayn not to pursue HF like that. Again, contributes to the point that skynx wasn't scumhunting. On May 11 2017 05:16 Skynx wrote: Palmar PB Grack HF rayn these are in order btw "These are in order" is another awkward sentence that on top of it doesn't make any sense cause I don't see anywhere how what he says allows him to rank people based on townieness (and what? Ascending, descending?) On May 11 2017 05:13 Skynx wrote: This is quite bad. If he feels like elaborating on reads why not do it? You do not want to progress the game? Super bad reasoning blaming rest of the eventualities bad to follow a simple reasoning to sheep a 2 post intro (no disrespect PB i like you ).On May 12 2017 03:40 Skynx wrote: I don't really like this since when i was around and posted my reads you were there to respond. My reads haven't changed and no one asked me to expand on them and now you say my reads are weak. Or you're just trying to push my because you've found a few supporters going own on me cuz i haven't been active. I don't think i have to explain why Palmar is town. rayn vs hf was mainly straight nonesense for i dunno how many pages while both believing or writing as they have definitely found scum. In a case of tvs to any side, t has no basis to push with confidence unless meta which they didn't let the thread know about while s is taking hell of a risk early on. svs is a stretch and even more of a risk when they could have just sit back after some early chit chat. They both should know whatever reason they are stating doesn't make the other mafia. Most cases tunneling without basis is tvt in my book, at least for my part i get emotional and tunnel townies all the time but I'm working on that. Prison Breaks intro was good and he made valid points. I've already explained Grack. Him and palmar is almost identical to rayn vs hf. Just voting eachother for whatever reason. Imo its been super easy for scum early on with all these people going after eachother and they can just sit back and relax as town will probably follow one of them and they can just hop in at one point with a shitty reasoning. Again super shallow read bunch and earlier on while accusing fuba he basically talked smack about a 2 post intro and said fuba was scummy for sheeping it, but when he makes a read on PB,suddenly PBs post is good and he made valid points. Pretty much the best argument of the bunch so far | ||
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On May 12 2017 03:53 Skynx wrote: If you give me a chance maybe i can read something else than HF/palmar/rayn/grack and scumhunt? Ok now DF also catches up to him. He admits that he doesn't have scumreads, okay. They follow shortly afterwards. On May 12 2017 04:05 Skynx wrote: I dislike LS and TW less than i dislike sl and fuba. Pretty much the closest thing to a scumread. 100% based on his previous posts talking about fuba and LS (feeling the need to be consistent and all that). This was more or less second half of D1 already if I'm not mistaken. On May 11 2017 04:48 Skynx wrote: I couldn't understand much of rayn vs HF sorry No one should be having any opinion on LS, TW and Damdred other than very superficial stuff cuz they haven't done anything yet. This is from earlier. And guess what, almost the entire game TRd LS early on. With one exception: Damdred. And yet Skynx says at one point "nobody should TR LS at this point"; but for example Palmar insta townread him, and skynx didn't care and instead gave Palmar a town cookie without hesitation. He retracts his scumread on LS in the next post. On May 12 2017 04:06 Skynx wrote: Tbh i retract that, i kinda like LS. And bam, he shortly afterwards he already forgot that he just unscumread him: On May 12 2017 04:25 Skynx wrote: Anyway I'm gona focus on TW, Damdred and LS for a bit now. Forgets his reads,check. | ||
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On May 12 2017 18:54 Skynx wrote: I'll give you a cookie at end of the game if you lynch me so keep trying. | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:05 Skynx wrote: I dislike LS and TW less than i dislike sl and fuba. SL is scummier than LS? On May 12 2017 04:25 Skynx wrote: Anyway I'm gona focus on TW, Damdred and LS for a bit now. Where is SL? SL is scum? Why? Where did it happen? On May 12 2017 05:08 Skynx wrote: Just to give it out there Palmar PB SL HF rayn Grack TW DF Damdred Vivax lynch fuba or ls if nothing better is availabe Oh now he's town again? Interesting. | ||
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Definitely going to be paranoid about him for the rest of the game if he doesn't change that attitude when and if we lynch a scum | ||
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On May 16 2017 05:18 Grackaroni wrote: The things Skynx said about PB that were highlighted in red seem pretty scummy. A lot of other things seem like bad reading comprehension. No cause he pretends to have a read on SL for being afk at best which switches between town and scum at some point and a boatload of other things you would surely notice if you tried. | ||
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No cause early game there was a good bit of pressure on Grack and most were suspicious of the things he was pulling and yet you effortlessly called him town cause he got angry at rayn or something. Considering it came from the mindset of a scum (hope you are) who was playing safe calling I think all active players town, you should have felt more compelled to at least throw a bit of your own suspicion on him to not stick out later. My 2 c at least | ||
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On May 16 2017 05:45 Holyflare wrote: wasn't palmar like your top town read btw? why was he your check? Thinking that as well, also waiting to see if there's a cc before even doing anything. If a scum expects to be lynched and knows there's a cop in the setup ofc he will do a fakeclaim so I'm not 100% convinced yet. | ||
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Either way a scum TW does look bad for HF considering the rayn kill (scumreading Palmar, me, LS), so also far away from catching him. Looks like a mindfuck kill considering he was being afk on purpose. Maybe there's a tiny tiny chance that it was Palmars modkill. | ||
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And leaving HF alive is banking on town paranoia to lynch him last. Done it myself as scum. If Skynx isn't cop and you are cop and not ccing you are gamethrowing so safe to assume it's real after everyone has posted. | ||
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On May 16 2017 19:05 Holyflare wrote: I have a feeling skynx isn't the cop :p Why tho real cop should absolutely come out in this scenario. | ||
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TWs cc is too convenient as he is the target.That would require a massive amount of luck from Skynx to fake cop check the cop of all people. | ||
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On May 15 2017 04:19 Tumblewood wrote: the trouble here is that the only active players are the ones that are probably scum. and also ls On May 15 2017 04:27 Tumblewood wrote: why the fuck does everyone want to lynch ls? he is innocent puppy x3000 zzz same as skynx with his SL read. | ||
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On May 11 2017 09:05 Tumblewood wrote: plus every post I make about you seems to create 2 more posts that I have to respond to HF spewed town too? | ||
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On May 17 2017 01:53 Prison Break wrote: What does this sentence mean? TW is mafia, he counterclaimed because he got caught.. claimed different set-up to get doc to out.. if scum fake claimed, what are the odds of the real cop being the one who got checked? Also what does "spew town" mean? I see that phrase being used quite a lot, is it when you try to get town killed or something? It means that my TR on TW was bad and therefore it could be bad on you too. And spewing town means that a mafia knowing someone is town gives it away in their posts. | ||
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On May 14 2017 08:45 Tumblewood wrote: fuck, everything about the nk says palmar over hf but it's so bad that it has to be wifom. because you are not telling me that anyone other than hf/palmar chose the nightkill This is probably true and he knew it. | ||
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On May 17 2017 10:43 sicklucker wrote: well im flaming the veteran for not claiming if thats a thing. this is the easy mechanical play On May 17 2017 12:46 sicklucker wrote: i dont even know why tumble would fake claim as mafia tho he was in a good spot.. somethings not right On May 17 2017 12:47 sicklucker wrote: if theresa veteran and you dont claim hollly fuck your bad. doctor in the other setup def dont claim tho 3 completely uninformative, pseudo-helpful posts that don't even hint in the slightest that he's already thinking ahead. | ||
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On May 17 2017 19:20 sicklucker wrote: i dont read the thread when the days an auto lynch zZzZz This is the first mafia found in the game how can it become more boring to you. | ||
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On May 15 2017 12:49 sicklucker wrote: yep tomorrow is the day we lynch palmar On May 17 2017 20:12 sicklucker wrote: i never said it was boring. but its auto and that kind of is boring. hf prop rly mad Did palmar do anything townie in particular in that time? | ||
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On May 17 2017 21:14 sicklucker wrote: I was the 14th signup didnt really wanna play but felt bad watching this game need a last signup for 3 weeks :D There are only 13 players. | ||
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So basically: tl;dr but you are scum | ||
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On May 17 2017 23:54 sicklucker wrote: ah no and you thought i was town like 10 hours ago so thats questionable. and also fuck you asshole Oh you took my post seriously? | ||
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On May 18 2017 01:29 Holyflare wrote: Skynx and palmar. Basically you're ccing cop for everyone to see. | ||
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On May 11 2017 08:46 Holyflare wrote: Are you saying I'm town without actually saying I'm town? I hate almost everything you wrote. On May 11 2017 23:15 Palmar wrote: maybe we just lynch TW and when he flips scum we lynch HF for TMI | ||
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On May 18 2017 14:34 Prison Break wrote: I was pretty confident he was scum earlier on. His play is messing with my head. I don't care what others think, I care about being right. I think I'm still right on sicklurker What did he do in the meantime that he appears townier to you? To me it's the opposite he even doesn't care about being called bad he's just happy leaving that in the room calling me names while lurking 24/7 doing nothing but talking about roles and actions. | ||
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On May 18 2017 20:33 Holyflare wrote: Wut who is calling you names? SL was just content calling me them but that he's doing it isn't even that relevant to me, what's more relevant is that he's doing that instead of other things. I don't see his townie pride this game. | ||
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On May 18 2017 20:36 Holyflare wrote: The post you quoted from PB is referring to me,not SL. That doesn't change what I said. | ||
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On May 18 2017 20:45 Holyflare wrote: It changes the question because pb isn't saying sl looks townier. But whatever floats your boat. Palmar not even trying to figure me out at this point. Waiting to shit fight with me tomorrow i presume. Oh okay. I'm probably an idiot anyway for suspecting PBon a reread so many of his posts scream town I'm just getting mindfucked by the usual paranoia. | ||
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On May 15 2017 04:31 Tumblewood wrote: hf and sl are probable town. palmar and fuba are probable scum. skynx and vivax are somewhere in between. and i am absolutely not ok with lynching outside of those 6 names. not really ok with going after hf or sl but clearly that's not stopping anyone Going by this I'd lynch Palmar tomorrow (by now both NKs basically force us to) ,then SL, then HF if SL wasn't scum. ggs | ||
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Alone for this I might sheep HF on Grack tomorrow, and only then start lynching into HF and Palmar. | ||
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Like when he said "You're not telling me someone other than Palmar/HF chose the night kill". It's 100% true and he knew it and wrote it like he knew it. | ||
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On May 18 2017 23:56 Palmar wrote: this is, literally, quite the towniest game on content I've played, but whatever. I'm torn between lynching you and HF and sheeping you tomorrow. I'm super clueless this game not knowing if the mafia left is a shitty SL/Grack or you+HF. You can have my vote for the day and lynch one person of your choosing having my uncoditional baaaaa, but if you're wrong, we lynch you. | ||
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I think Grack reprimanded me for not "getting the joke" and made a case on me for it.Lemme check. Also LS 200% town | ||
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On May 19 2017 02:07 sicklucker wrote: lets just say if im mafia with tumble +1 i would never let those morons kill df who town reads me over others Is HF scum or town? | ||
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On May 19 2017 01:53 Prison Break wrote: I've nailed it down to this town: LS, Palmar, HF scum: Grack or Vivax scum: sicklurker but vivax pushed sicklurker, so grack is more likely. vivax did have a weird post where he'd question why people would lynch sicklurker though, which can be interpreted as softdefending. I really don't like vivax "if my townread on TW is anything like my townread on PB then he must be mafia", that sounded insincere and it's complete bullshit. what's holding me back is that vivax pushes sicklurker now as for grackeroni, he mentioned my post seemed scummy (where I went from scumreading HF to townreading him based on his posting), then when called out on it he basically retracted it pretty fast. seemed like he was trying to see if others would catch on, and when they didn't he kind of dropped it. Very scummy. If HF is town, and I went from scumreading to townreading him, then I can imagine scum being frustrated by that because they obviously want town to kill other town, so I can see this play having a scum motive. Don't see how it makes sense from town though I think 2 scum is between these 3, LS palmar have been townie all game. no way HF is scum and being that paranoid yesterday, that seemed very real and townlike. so yeah I want to lynch between these 3, and I think both scum are between them My argument was that my scumread on skynx was bad, so my TR on you must be bad, too. And it was absolutely insincere I was just literally trying to pick a fight in the thread or why do you think I randomly started insulting SL? | ||
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On May 19 2017 02:57 sicklucker wrote: anyway this game is more about mechanics right now. will the mafia kill one of palmar or skynx? or will they be pussies and go after an unconfirmed not risking the 50/50 save. fun times the doctor is a true hero You're kinda townreading Palmar here? | ||
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On May 19 2017 03:47 sicklucker wrote: hes talking about my master plans for night actions. its just wifmo bro It's just wifom is a good summary of your filter this game | ||
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On May 11 2017 08:44 Tumblewood wrote: okay, I might as well get all my reads out at once: grack is my rock for now. and ls, but I always read him town. (don't get confused, he still is town. I'm always right.) for now I'm gonna just ignore Palmar and Hf, because Palmar is obstinate and not crusading yet Hf is kinda just yelling and picking fights. plus one of them or rayn will probably die n1 Damdred is a little good in my book prison break seems like most players I see from other sites. he seems to at least believe what he's saying skynx has disappointed me so far. he reminds me of myself which is usually a bad sign fuba had one post I thought sucked but other than that I've been ignoring him rayn is town I think? I like rayn, he's doin good stuff anyone else I just forgot was playing ^ mafia toddler On May 18 2017 22:59 Palmar wrote: As for the current gamestate, and some very short reservations: Grack: the fact that TW was willing to townread him so hard that he offered to build a towncase (I can't remember if he actually did, but I remember asking him for one) throws a wrench in that read of mine. Grack has still played a very underwhelming game if he's town and he's not really helping figure anything out, but still... It's making me pause. sicklucker: I have a gut feeling he's town. There's literally no justification for it, I just think he is. I might be completely and utterly wrong. He's not done anything and when he's in the thread his posts are completely worthless... idk... I guess I'm gonna wait until tomorrow to read him in more detail. Vivax: Still hedging on town. Still have the same nagging suspicions, but still gonna ignore them based purely on effort and content. I dislike how he intends to follow up on the scumlynch but whatever. HF: The big question to me. I should probably be fairly sure he's mafia but I'm just not. The way he responded to my taunting and to skynx's reveal actually sounded rather townie. I also vaguely recall him making some case or push on TW at some point, but it may be me misremembering. I'm going to go back and see if, how and why that happened. LS: Super underwhelming this game. I actually think it's not unlikely he's mafia. If you gave me a gun and told me to shoot someone I'd shoot, HF, but only because killing him would be fun. If I was shooting for the most likely to flip mafia I think I'd shoot LS. PB: I've written him off as town throughout the game, because he sounds like one. Depending on what happens tomorrow he's a good candidate to just review and see if I wrote it off too quickly. He's a low content poster, but whenever he does post it feels like he has a townie mindset. Skynx: 100% cop, confirmed. ______________________________ So in summary, I would probably kill LS right now. But I have very little faith in that being the correct call. It's mostly based on how I feel about the game at the moment. He's a guy that generally isn't afraid to post but he has somehow avoided almost all the big shitfights this game, just like TW did, really. So yeah.... more tomorrow, maybe today. ^ mafia giant | ||
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On May 19 2017 05:15 Holyflare wrote: SL Grack Palmar (if alive another cycle after) LS (can really be anywhere above) Vivax Pb probably a good lynch order I can't help but notice you've bumped Palmar down two notches | ||
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On May 19 2017 05:19 Holyflare wrote: I re-read his list post and it actually wasn't too bad but SL is because of everything he's done this cycle and he 100% should be the lynch, he's afkd but been here, he's said sketchy things and hedging on alignments so he fits in with the moment and he's refusing to interact properly with anything Failing that; Grack is because of his vote at the deadline and the lack of absolutely anything, if Grack is mafia then he effectively saved Palmar and Palmar is almost definitely mafia. Then you don't have to see if he dies or not because he's mafia. Eh dunno his list post looks like the same shit TW did, just blurting out as much as possible without really caring about anything in specific. That was probs the best case I have written this game. | ||
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On May 19 2017 05:38 LightningStrike wrote: I honestly townread Vivax more than HF before this why you wait for ccing at the day post Vivax? Mafia in this situation obviously avoids killing the doc as the fakeclaim starts into the day caught pants down so I pretended to not be doc. I was playing with the thought of letting HF play the fake doc until he stays alive for sufficient nights to end up being lynched. I also kept and still keep in mind that maybe he was just trying to get killed as to avoid being a mislynch. But during the day I obviously have to claim. | ||
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On May 19 2017 05:46 LightningStrike wrote: Also Ifound it funny that Vivax you would think mafia would kill me when I wasn't exactly townread or done anything sufficient to warrant me to die lol. Was unsure between you, PB and skynx. And I think you look fairly townie. | ||
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On May 19 2017 05:55 Holyflare wrote: but regardless you don't ever save not skynx there Wrong, he gets rbed tonight, medic saved him, he dies tomorrow. Still no check. His role lost all value when he claimed. | ||
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On May 19 2017 06:15 sicklucker wrote: I dont get the logic of killing palmar first ls? he was the cop check framer or not Well you aren't helping since you aren't reading or suggesting anything better so you can just look at the votecount and vote with 3 townies or have HF run the show. | ||
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On May 19 2017 06:18 sicklucker wrote: i honestly dont believe hf believes his "claim was sick" like its ok it might trick newb mafia but thats it. no one competent falls for that and with 2 mafia one is almost always competent in this player pool. but w/e its not an awful play I prefer my too obvious to be claimig doctor to be doctor play Way too much hype during that claim but it was a nice change from the snoozefest that was the last phase. | ||
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On May 19 2017 06:21 Grackaroni wrote: Nobody knows what you're talking about SL. He's saying that the chance Palmar framed himself is small. | ||
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On May 19 2017 06:23 Holyflare wrote: I think it's exceptionally high Your vote doesn't reflect that | ||
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On May 19 2017 06:33 sicklucker wrote: tumble gave grack and ls free townreads at the beginning of that game. thats like most likely scum team I think. I I had tumble and ls as my partners I would tell them all to circle jerk themselves too. right grack? thats how that qt went down? tumble gave rayn, pb and sl free townreads at the beginning of that game. thats like most likely scum team I think. I I had rayn, pb and SL as my partners I would tell them all to circle jerk themselves too. right SL? thats how that qt went down? See what I did there? | ||
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On May 14 2017 08:55 Tumblewood wrote: town grack rayn pb ls sl scum pool 1 - pick two, one of which is fuba skynx vivax fuba scum pool 2 - pick one hf palmar | ||
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On May 19 2017 07:13 sicklucker wrote: you cant tell im town already? your better then that I'll feel more sure about it once I see you with a torch and pitchfork chasing HF and Palmar. | ||
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He really just needs to understand that HF or Palmar have to die today. Technically HF and Palmar but one at a time. And he can't achieve that without voting with Grack and LS, and that means what for their alignment? We don't necessarily need PBs vote. HF going for Grack and him first should already ring all alarm bells tho. There's no way town HF still believes that Palmar is town at this point. | ||
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On May 19 2017 08:07 LightningStrike wrote: So in other words you think Holyflare is Unholyflare this game? + Show Spoiler + Tha tsi holyflare's scum nickname incase you didn't know. Almost guaranteed given he didn't insta unclaim when the night was over. He forced the real medic, aka me, to claim. I'm not letting him run around with a confirmed town sign on his head and decide the lynch. Grack did it correctly as he dropped the act instantly once he didn't die. Worst that can happen today isn't even that he claims it again, it's that we don't get SL and PB to vote him or Palmar. If HF claims medic again we lynch him and he flips scum. | ||
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On May 19 2017 19:42 Holyflare wrote: This is already enough of a case for me to want to kill him though. You're not telling me he's been trying to hop on anyone he can when I had to stick around and try to convince him that LS was town and that he was looking at TWs posts the wrong way. It's a case you could have made for Grack and LS maybe but SL is exactly not the guy who just hopped onto anyone, he's the one who played hard to get | ||
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HF went from pretending to be enthusiastic about a Palmar lynch to being his greatest defender, gradually. | ||
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On May 19 2017 19:54 Holyflare wrote: And you think that was a legitimate point that totally wasn't sarcastic? Same type of argument TW got himself off the hook when I pointed out he was overdramatic about LS entrance. "Oh it was all just a joke". Either way this isn't about a single thing that has happened this game, it's the overall picture, the kills we had so far, TWs filter and that you and Palmar are pushing townies and going all in on hard defending each other cause if a greenchecked Scummar dies, you can concede. | ||
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On May 19 2017 05:35 Holyflare wrote: I guess I'm now confirmed, get rekt On May 19 2017 05:36 Holyflare wrote: yes i'm real doctor | ||
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If I kill you today and you flip mafia, what happens tomorrow? If the answer to that question is "we lynch SL", I'm perfectly okay with lynching him today, cause...*random arguments*,*for PBS sake* "HF can be mafia but since we would lynch SL tomorrow if HF is mafia today, we lynch SL today instead, and here are arguments for HF being town: bsbsbs, and also cause I want to be friends with this PB dude" | ||
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On May 19 2017 20:13 Holyflare wrote: And if you think palmar is mafia then I'm like 1000% town. You are never even 75% town that's the burden of being a scumgod | ||
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Town now just has to pull PB and SL together into the same boat and we win. Is SL confirmed town? No. But I guarantee that lynching Palmar, SL and HF wins the game 100 % of the time, where we lynch one of Palmar and HF today and the other two in no particular order. For me it finally clicked in the head yesterday just before HF claimed doc, for you there is no click to be seen you just keep pretending to be dabbling in the dark. | ||
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On May 19 2017 22:45 Palmar wrote: It's not insecurity you dumbass, it's desire to get things right. Explain to me what happens if my scumread on HF is wrong, we lynch him today and he flips town. Explain to me what happens after that. You get lynched obviously. | ||
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On May 19 2017 22:53 Palmar wrote: So town instantly loses if HF is town. Are you surprised I'm concerned about getting it right? Explain to me what happens if we don't lynch either of you and you are both mafia | ||
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On May 16 2017 06:56 Holyflare wrote: lol k now we just lynch you and get 2 free mafia then? Can you explain how this post means we get two mafias? | ||
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On May 20 2017 04:13 Prison Break wrote: What do you make of the people who don't want to lynch sicklurker, and want to lynch you despite you having the green check? lightning strike and grack still have their vote on you. I think grack is scum as well as sicklurker. 2 scum should be between sicklurker, vivax and grack. I don't think you know who you're dealing with when it comes to Palmar and Holyflare. Suffice to say I've been on this site for almost ten years, Palmar even longer. I advise you to sheep someone townie until you know the players a bit better, and fyi I'm currently the uncontested medic claim. | ||
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On May 20 2017 05:02 Prison Break wrote: I saw 3 doc claims + a lot of "WIFOM/mind gaming scum" You say you're the uncontested medic claim... but I've seen at least 2 other claims as well If everyone will accept you as the doc and retract their claims I'll back off from you as you'd be confirmed town obviously Thing about Palmar and HF seems to be that everyone seems to be tunneling them and I just feel like that's somehing mafia would do.... like leave them alive and let them fight each other because the moment 1 flips, the other will follow soon after Between palmar and HF I'd kill HF first everytime simply because of the palmar green check. Yes, he could be framed, but odds of that are 33%, so in 67% of cases palmar is confirmed town, and in 33% he could literally be either town or scum, basically (aka same as if he weren't checked) I also still don't understand that the cop died. Explain to me, if you were doc why didn't you heal the cop? and why did scum nightkill the cop? Isn't it more likely to assume HF is doc. From your PoV if you're actually doc you know his claim is false, obviously, but from my PoV I can only base my opinion off of what you guys give me, and right now I've seen 3 docclaims and a lot of joking/mindgaming, to the point where I don't know which claim to take seriously anymore I explained it already. I went for the gamble as we would actually have gotten another check off the night after if we lynched the roleblocker today. If I healed him tonight and saved him we would have a confirmed town around but still no cop. On May 19 2017 05:56 Vivax wrote: Wrong, he gets rbed tonight, medic saved him, he dies tomorrow. Still no check. His role lost all value when he claimed. | ||
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On May 20 2017 05:06 Prison Break wrote: Either way we shouldn't be lynching a doc, because we should put scum for the task, if they nightkill the doc they give up the fact they can hold onto their fake claim etc. which gives us more info so with that said, and 3 doc claims, lynch should be between palmar and SL but, say I'm wrong on SL, which I have no reason to believe, but say I'm wrong on him: then I still wonder if palmar is the correct lynch, because it's based entirely on the theory that he framed himself to begin with. It's a possibility, but I don't think it's a probability also why is grack spawned town at all? depending on the scumteam, TW could've said whatever he wanted to, so why are people looking so much into this? I've seen scum leaving "hints" towards who are or aren't their partners in posts in case they flip, to lead town into more mislynches as well. I'm sceptic towards looking into TWs posts like that I'm confident that TW was the type of mafia that hard townread towns and left everyone else including his buddies and his daily mislynch at something more obfuscate. | ||
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On May 20 2017 05:14 Prison Break wrote: What do you base this one? Link me to earlier mafia games where he did this? On May 12 2017 05:01 Tumblewood wrote: rayn, grack, ls, probably prison break are all town. Palmar Hf vivax sl not worth lynching d1 for various reasons. anyone else I would at least consider today. but fuba promised to do stuff and didn't so I am sticking on him unless you try to go lynch like grack He's mentioning all players currently alive here, including yourself and a flipped rayn as town. The only ones he keeps at a waffly level are Palmar, HF, me and SL and to a small extent you. And those are exactly who I'm aiming to lynch this game. Always 1 scum in Palmar and HF and if we don't win, then we get SL. On May 14 2017 08:45 Tumblewood wrote: fuck, everything about the nk says palmar over hf but it's so bad that it has to be wifom. because you are not telling me that anyone other than hf/palmar chose the nightkill Also this heavily implies one or both of Palmar and HF. Sorry but if you don't see that TW had trouble not keeping his perfect information out of his posts, I don't know how to explain it better to you. | ||
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On May 20 2017 06:00 Holyflare wrote: no are you dumb? IF I KEEP CLAIMING MEDIC THEY THINK IM MEDIC AND KILL ME no more ? holyflare confirmed town holyflare many wins many kills much win You haven't been killed, so nobody cares about your hypotheticals. You had to unclaim and the only reason you didn't is cause you're mafia | ||
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On May 20 2017 06:03 Holyflare wrote: if nobody ccs me then i fucking die are you actually stupid? Did you invent a fucking time machine? | ||
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Best case scenario is that HF flips scum, then we lynch Palmar who also flips scum. | ||
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On May 20 2017 21:01 Holyflare wrote: You're dumb if you think there's any chance i flip mafia tbh. I've just said what i feel at every point. You only have yourself to blame then cause if you aren't, then Palmar is 100% and you hard defended him. | ||
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And you just sit here all day rolling thumbs, swearing, outing the doctor, then just falling over and dying over him while pushing sl and ls. | ||
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Nothing changes in my lynch order except that HF forced us to lynch him before Palmar which imo isn't ideal. | ||
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The important thing is not to panic and stay the course. This is just a drill for the Palmar lynch | ||
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Palmars racing horse for this game is the n1 green check and he's going to coat it in sugar and sell it as unbeatable logic that he is town and that the logical play is not to lynch him. | ||
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He was mafia sitting in a dark pit, he got offered a rope to climb out, but on his way out he had to throw you in instead, he chose to stay in the pit. Why is scum HF not taking the easy route to your mislynch if you are town here? | ||
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"Hey HF, let's lynch Palmar" "nah I'm gonna go for these SL and LS guys instead" If we assume Palmar is town, what was HF thinking? (1) "I'm going to die before him and frame him with association on the off chance that they lynch him tomorrow herp" (2) "I'm going to mislynch him, then I get killed by paranoid townies anyway derp" Both scenarios result in his death. But scenario (1) is just straight out suicide which is what happened. HF killed himself this day. Indisputable fact. And the only argument here for him to suicide here that you can bring from a perspective where Palmar is town, is that he wanted to frame Palmar by helping him. Palmar who voted for him without batting an eye when given the opportunity. And the conclusion is: Two ways out. Both with the same result for HF (one being mislynch Palmar while being alive, and one being mislynch Palmar after getting lynched) . And he chose the worst to achieve the same result he could have achieved by simply mislynching Palmar? That's where Palmar = town all falls apart. | ||
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On May 21 2017 20:30 Vivax wrote: In HFs world. "Hey HF, let's lynch Palmar" "nah I'm gonna go for these SL and LS guys instead" If we assume Palmar is town, what was HF thinking? (1) "I'm going to die before him and frame him with association on the off chance that they lynch him tomorrow herp" (2) "I'm going to mislynch him, then I get killed by paranoid townies anyway derp" Both scenarios result in his death. But scenario (1) is just straight out suicide which is what happened. HF killed himself this day. Indisputable fact. And the only argument here for him to suicide here that you can bring from a perspective where Palmar is town, is that he wanted to frame Palmar by helping him. Palmar who voted for him without batting an eye when given the opportunity. And the conclusion is: Two ways out. Both with the same result for HF (one being mislynch Palmar while being alive, and one being mislynch Palmar after getting lynched) . And he chose the worst to achieve the same result he could have achieved by simply mislynching Palmar? That's where Palmar = town all falls apart. This is what you call a checkmate by the way. Nobody can ever argue against this, it's cristalline, hard logic. While I understand the frustration for being scumread for this without a chance to defend yourself, it's the nail in the coffin and nothing else is required. | ||
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Then he's going to seduce PB and point out that he was so gosu and right all along and can finally show the world what he is made of and endgame this town. | ||
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Which is why tomorrow you kill Palmar and let the other guys fight it out. | ||
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And alone for this he's like 100% confirmed town | ||
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As my legacy. | ||
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On May 22 2017 02:11 Prison Break wrote: While this is indeed a strong argument that makes me want to consider Palmar again, there are 3 even stronger reasons why I won't, and they are: - palmars green check which means even if he's mafia - there's only 33% chance he framed himself - palmar has raised a good point where he said that HF is mafia, and based on palmars play himself it seems townie - HF suiciding and wanting LS dead is something I interpret it as him trying to get people to townread LS and it's working. I also didnt like LS' posting that day I don't think I'd ever vote palmar here Why do you assume that mafia picks the frame randomly? Palmar is the roleblocker, had some soft suspicion on him D1, and is generally speaking the most experienced player in the game, with mafias strongest role. He gets checked N1. Do you think that he didn't see that coming? | ||
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On May 22 2017 02:44 LightningStrike wrote: But honestly I highly doubt that TW would put his both of his scummates in his prefer lynches unless he want us to be confused. He did under the conditional that only always one of them is mafia and the other isn't. If we lynched HF and we were still alive he'd have an excuse to townread Palmar. On May 14 2017 08:55 Tumblewood wrote: town grack rayn pb ls sl scum pool 1 - pick two, one of which is fuba skynx vivax fuba scum pool 2 - pick one hf palmar Meanwhile his first scum pool is exclusively composed of townies which all must be mafia according to him. | ||
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Even if Palmar flips town, he will have more time than me to find a good lynch you can sheep. But right now it's about to become Day 5? And he has never been hit by mafia. | ||
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On May 19 2017 22:45 Palmar wrote: It's not insecurity you dumbass, it's desire to get things right. Explain to me what happens if my scumread on HF is wrong, we lynch him today and he flips town. Explain to me what happens after that. Something about 300 words essays, then "you don't lynch me today then, deal? Here's my vote on HF". Easily doing something he said he didn't want to do. His defense for HF is that he doesn't want to lynch him in self defense. Does this alone make him 100% mafia? No. Rayn had one scumread right exactly before he died while he wasn't willing to compromise on anything else. All you could have expected from rayn this game was a vote parked on Palmar until the bitter end. | ||
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Sounds more logical to me that mafia has town in their pocket and not the other way around. | ||
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