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On April 17 2017 17:22 beentheredonethat wrote:
sicklucker if you dare to vote me then you have understood nothing about how darthfoley coasted all game long.
it's all up to you however. Not trying to convince you here. It's all up to you and your sick plays. have fun.
koshi leave some advice please.
yes, I've coasted, coming from the guy who also said this
+ Show Spoiler +On April 07 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 07 2017 19:03 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 07 2017 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nah i am sorry you're just scum btdt.
- Forget a guy in your reads list
- Make a big case on the said dude just after
Mmmm... no. ok lynch me mr. 100% right and see how it goes How about you explain how you got into this situation since your mr 100% guy is 100% not voting for you? hm that's right but I feel like I'm in too deep already. So first of all, I'm not putting in the efforts I should put in. I am lazy at posting - not explaining my thought process properly, nor am I reviewing my reads in a good manner. I do read the thread but I only open a filter here and there and see what to get out of it. So the consequences are that people scumread me because they have no idea about how I reached my conclusions. Which is perfectly fine, I'm more mad at myself right now. On April 10 2017 06:12 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2017 05:25 Shapelog wrote:On April 10 2017 04:49 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 10 2017 04:22 Shapelog wrote:On April 10 2017 03:34 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 09 2017 22:53 Shapelog wrote:On April 09 2017 11:23 darthfoley wrote:On April 09 2017 11:17 Shapelog wrote:On April 09 2017 10:32 darthfoley wrote:
Let's gooooo Also u going to answer me or not? What was the question? On April 09 2017 09:16 Shapelog wrote:
Also what do you think about the SL part of the Rels post? That i made.
On April 09 2017 18:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Hi. voting shape seems to be the obvious thing. Worth a try but I am paranoid over Shape being town. There are some things in his filter that feel a lot like it and people might be tunneled.
We're down to one scum, so we have 7 town votes and 1 scum votes. That means that the scum vote isn't that relevant anymore.
I think Tumble might get too easy town credit. Yes I know that I give him town credit for the Calix/Tumble is unlikely stuff but it's not a full clear. Same goes for Rels, someone said that it would've been a big risk for scum!Rels to make the wagon 3-3 with a AFK Calix.
but then again, a Rels/Calix scumteam feels weird given the level of afk'ness that both have/had.
My main pain points on Shape are hedging and committing to the wrong wagon. But: he could've voted with Tumbe/Sicklucker as there was (imho) no way more people would pile on TW. I wasn't in thread and thread wasn't interested in Tumble.
Maybe it's just town paranoia. My top townreads do vote for shape. So while I'm still paranoid, it's okay I guess.
##vote Shapelog ![[image loading]](https://media.tenor.co/images/5396540c3cfea10d09942bd4d370d100/tenor.gif) Seriously tho, Where are you actually with tumble and Rels? This post tells me nothing bc ironically ur wishy washing in it. Why is the afk scum team weird when you dont know the factors of it? It is pretty clear that I started to townread Tumble from my previous posts. It is pretty clear that I townread Rels for voting 4-2 instead of 3-3. Yes, it's not in the post you quoted. BUT it is in the posts I already made during the night. So - no, I am not wishy washy in it. A afk scum team would be weird because it's really hard to read into. I clearly express that I am okay with voting you, Shape, and I am content in following my top townreads. I am NOT being wishy washy because I ALSO say that I do have doubts about you being scum. Which is pretty normal. I don't know how you can say that I'm wishy washy there. Only way to do it is if you completely discard my posts during the night. Because your providing yourself a way to get out of those reads. I think Tumble might get too easy town credit. Yes I know that I give him town credit for the Calix/Tumble is unlikely stuff but it's not a full clear. Same goes for Rels, someone said that it would've been a big risk for scum!Rels to make the wagon 3-3 with a AFK Calix. Those reasoning on why you think they are town are also what you are saying giving them too much town credit. You admit this yourself in that post. Why do you want others to not look at your townreads as town, or now relook and give them less credit? It makes no sense if you really think they are town. Even with doubts about them, I don't see someone making a post where they state that the reason they are townreading shouldn't be giving that much credit. It's really alarming esp. to me bc Ik either you or Rels 90% of the time here is mafia. And here you are potentially setting up to ML them if your mafia. And lets say you are fine with me being lynched and do have doubts saying im scum.What I dont follow is the reasoning to keep posting things to show off your not certain. I get openly discussing in the thread ad that kinda of stuff, but the way you do it doesn't achieve anything from a townie mindset other than maybe convincing yourself I am scum...Which you SHOULD BE AT come to think if you think the rest of the people are town, like you just stated in your reply. For example you post this. Hi. voting shape seems to be the obvious thing. Worth a try but I am paranoid over Shape being town. There are some things in his filter that feel a lot like it and people might be tunneled.
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My main pain points on Shape are hedging and committing to the wrong wagon. But: he could've voted with Tumbe/Sicklucker as there was (imho) no way more people would pile on TW. I wasn't in thread and thread wasn't interested in Tumble.
Maybe it's just town paranoia. My top townreads do vote for shape. So while I'm still paranoid, it's okay I guess.
You have reasons to think im town, but your sticking with your townreads stance on me. I understand that. But saying your certain in your vote isn't true. You stated "it's okay i guess.", meaning not only do you doubt your read, but also your vote. Furthermore in the night, you stated you dont feel certain on it and had more reasons to think im town But overall, Shape's filter feels like he's active, asking questions, progressing the thread. He's sticking to asking Tumble stuff, he continuesly says he's fine with a Calix lynch, and overall keeps a calm town which isn't necessarily easy to have as town when you're faced with rayn, sicklucker and myself (esp. myself).
In general, kudos to Koshi and Shape and Rayn for calming me down instead of tilting me further.
I'm not sure about Shape at this point.
According to what you just said in your reply. There should be NO ONE ELSE to suspect as scum if you think that tumble is town, and rels is town, then me. Meaning, you should be on my ass with fire. Instead you "have doubts" Of course I get out of reads. Reads are subject to change over the course of the game. Everyone who says "this guy is 100% alignment x" and is always right is scum. You say: Those reasoning on why you think they are town are also what you are saying giving them too much town credit. You admit this yourself in that post. Why do you want others to not look at your townreads as town, or now relook and give them less credit? It makes no sense if you really think they are town. Because I might be wrong Oo. I want everyone to not sheep me but instead develop their own opinions. Especially in terms of town reads I am not supposed to make everyone my townreads their townreads. I'd do so if one of my townreads would be up for the lynch which is not the case. It's really alarming esp. to me bc Ik either you or Rels 90% of the time here is mafia. And here you are potentially setting up to ML them if your mafia. If it's either me or Rels, why did you absolutely not care about me or Rels previously? Why did you even vote with me? Why didn't you vote for Rels? And where do you get this very high probability from? And lets say you are fine with me being lynched and do have doubts saying im scum.What I dont follow is the reasoning to keep posting things to show off your not certain. I get openly discussing in the thread ad that kinda of stuff, but the way you do it doesn't achieve anything from a townie mindset other than maybe convincing yourself I am scum...Which you SHOULD BE AT come to think if you think the rest of the people are town, like you just stated in your reply. It's rather easy: my top scumread changed to a townread. I have not put in the work (freely admitting that) to re-read everyone, especially since I am fairly happy with you being lynched - I think the chance that you flip scum is at a decent 60-75%. I freely admit to not having original scumreads on my own right now - which might be scum indicative but to be frank I don't care too much what people think at this point. I mean what's wrong with voting with my top town reads, especially rayn, given that he was the main incentive in lynching Calix which turned out to be a good move? You have reasons to think im town, but your sticking with your townreads stance on me. I understand that. But saying your certain in your vote isn't true. You stated "it's okay i guess.", meaning not only do you doubt your read, but also your vote.
Furthermore in the night, you stated you dont feel certain on it and had more reasons to think im town Yeah, that's true. I'm not 100% sure you're scum, and if Calix had flipped town, I'm pretty sure I'd still be going for Tumblewood way over you. The things you have going for you are things like activity, things like "I have to flip sooner or later because I won't be able to clear myself anyways" which I fully understand (I have the same feeling about myself to be honest, if you don't flip scum, I expect a rather fast mislynch on me) I do not really know thought what you want to achieve with writing what you wrote there. According to what you just said in your reply. There should be NO ONE ELSE to suspect as scum if you think that tumble is town, and rels is town, then me. Meaning, you should be on my ass with fire. Instead you "have doubts" Yeah, I do. As you correctly wrote, if you're not scum, all I have left is technically Koshi, who's also townie to me (he voted Calix early, right?). But remember D1. I got blamed as "bad town" a subjective 10000 times. It's quite possible that I'm wrong on things. That makes me unsure. 1) Yes but its the timing of it and the way your doing it that is worrying me. And your doing it with easy targets if your mafia. That is my biggest issue with it. Mafia now has to plan out how the living hell to get 3 ML's and one Lylo (unless they are dumb and it gets blocked by SL again.) With who is alive rn, and who I currently suspect. I don't think any of the people with enough credibility (minus Darth maybe but see 3) ) to pull that off. So they cannot purely live based off that, so they must now start considering ways to make the rest of the sus. townies worse then them, while digging themselves out of "Shape is last mafia" read. 2) Your discrediting your own reasoning to see them as town tho. It be like saying "Ryan is town for what he did with calix etc." then saying "You shouldn't be putting that much stock into Ryan's interactions with calix." It doesn't make sense you posting to the thread the latter when your reads are first ""'s. 3) That came after the night result and SL claimed doc basically. You can check the post if you want to, but basically. I believe tumble is town based off calix. Koshi is town as well. SL I believe his claim, and prob. healed Ryan which confirms ryan. Even if he didn't, I still think ryan is town. I think darth is town, but not as much as everyone else just bc I lack enough to confirm him in my mind. Therefore, I am left with Rels or you being scum after the night flip. So I Highly believe scum is either between you two, with the off chance of it being darth (or maybe tumble if he doesn't do anything my day 3). 4) But then you posted what you did discrediting it imo. Which doesn't progress or help what you posted in the night at all with your reads. Touchee with the second paragraph 5) Bc i dont really believe your as ok with your vote as you made it out seem in your reply which strike me as odd. 6) Well i didn't know about you not fully rereading him. But still, I don't see you posting what you did if I am the only real sus person for you rn, even if you think you are wrong. If you have doubts, I would also suspect you if you thought that to start looking at other people again (which should of happen now in my mind since you were unsure earlier about me) Maybe this is just a POV and preference on the matter. I don't think we are going to get anywhere with this point in the long run. On April 10 2017 04:53 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 10 2017 04:25 Shapelog wrote:On April 10 2017 04:12 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 10 2017 03:37 darthfoley wrote:
@ Shape
Well yea the remaining scum in this situation has to keep options open and back doors available because of the D1 lynch and now the save in the night. This is one of the main reasons I don't like how btdt has approached the thread recently. Explain to me why so I also understand it, please. How am I keeping options open when I'm voting Shape and adding two people to my town pile? Tumble, Rels, you and Rayn are on my town pile. I'm okay with a Shape lynch because I see the reasons people are voting him and I agree with them. Of course there's noone defending Shape - everyone's hoping he'll flip scum and the one remaining scum is fine with a clear mislynch if Shape is town. ![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bmh.gif) Can you please not post those gifs but instead be constructive and try to explain? Or, not react at all like this? Tbh I think I have posted more content to shitpost ratio filled post this game then in like the last 3 games I have played. You have no idea how hard it is not to troll rn and claim scum as town. Lemme try. 1) I don't know why the timing should worry you. I have adjusted my reads based upon a major event in the game: a flip. A scum player was confirmed. I have mostly tried to adjust my reads based on Calix flipping scum. And I have begun doing so during the Night phase, meaning at a time where there was no vote on you yet. What particular timing are you talking about? 2) I'm not discrediting my reasoning to see Rayn and darth as town. I have reached my own conclusion: "they voted Calix very early, especially rayn kept pushing Calix. They are probably town." You are misinterpreting what I said, especially since you ignore the fact that I was solely talking about myself and how people should see my townreads. I am pretty sure on Rayn and darth, I am not-so-sure about Tumble, SL and Rels, but I'm sure enough on them to lynch you. 3) Well okay, that's just fine. Pretty much my own conclusion, except I'm not 100% sold on the doc claim. The last scum is most likely between you, me, sicklucker/, (Rels, Tumble, Darth,) in that order, with the guys in brackets being townreads of mine. So basically we scumread each other for the same PoE reasons. Lol. 4) Not sure what to reply to this. I don't think I discredited my Tumble townread but even if I did, it might simply come from the fact that he's nowhere near locked town right now. If it's not shape, if it's not SL/Rels, then Tumble would be my next consideration. But I do realize that I'm judging a lot by gut feeling and am very close to guessing, so what I should do if Shape flips town is actually reading sicklucker without prejudice and re-reading Tumble and finally policy lynching Rels as he keeps not playing. regarding policy and Koshi: I'll just pretend he's town and ride or die. And brag post game about how shitty it is to go afk for 96 hours. 5) I'll put it like this: "I am okay with my vote on Shape but I am aware that I have not put in too much work." Basically right now, I am lazy town being okay with a Shape lynch as it clears a variable. Because still, what you do, is very hedgy and non-commital. If you flip town, I'll have to carefully reconsider what to do with sicklucker/Rels. 6) Yeah technically I should re-read others and try to find reasons to not lynch you. But then again, as I said, I think 60-75% is a good chance to not have to do that work. Finding the last scum will be hard anyway, it's really hit or miss as Calix chose to not really interact with people.
Just stop flailing dude. The jig is up.
To whom it may concern,
I am town. Btdt is not. Lynch him and town wins. Lynch me and town loses
Truly yours,
darthfoley
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The only narrative btdt has been trying to peddle is that I've "coasted" through the game and not done anything, which is
1) factually inaccurate
2) what he has done this whole game. Just scum read yourself and be done with it
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On April 18 2017 04:50 darthfoley wrote:
The only narrative btdt has been trying to peddle is that I've "coasted" through the game and not done anything, which is
1) factually inaccurate
2) what he has done this whole game. Just scum read yourself and be done with it
That's wrong - I have pushed my lynch all game long, and Tumble turned out VT. That leaves you since Koshi is doc and sicklucker got doc-confirmed.
It's really that easy, it's not even about coasting or anything. You're simply the last scum and 80% of your towncred comes from bussing Calix.
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I agree. It is always you over btdt.
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On April 18 2017 05:02 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2017 04:50 darthfoley wrote:
The only narrative btdt has been trying to peddle is that I've "coasted" through the game and not done anything, which is
1) factually inaccurate
2) what he has done this whole game. Just scum read yourself and be done with it That's wrong - I have pushed my lynch all game long, and Tumble turned out VT. That leaves you since Koshi is doc and sicklucker got doc-confirmed. It's really that easy, it's not even about coasting or anything. You're simply the last scum and 80% of your towncred comes from bussing Calix.
100% of your town cred comes from a conversation one hour into the game and you throwing a hissy fit.
Sorry you feel that way Koshi
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On April 18 2017 05:28 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2017 05:02 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 18 2017 04:50 darthfoley wrote:
The only narrative btdt has been trying to peddle is that I've "coasted" through the game and not done anything, which is
1) factually inaccurate
2) what he has done this whole game. Just scum read yourself and be done with it That's wrong - I have pushed my lynch all game long, and Tumble turned out VT. That leaves you since Koshi is doc and sicklucker got doc-confirmed. It's really that easy, it's not even about coasting or anything. You're simply the last scum and 80% of your towncred comes from bussing Calix. 100% of your town cred comes from a conversation one hour into the game and you throwing a hissy fit. Sorry you feel that way Koshi
That's wrong Oo. I have explained myself over and over again. I have as well re-explained why I think Tumble is scum AND I have answered to pretty much every single question (esp. from Shapelog) that was directed towards me.
What you are taking about is your scummate, Calix, pushing me at the beginning of the game, and then backing off of me for whatever reason. I continued to discuss with her though.
All you did was sit back and let lynches happen. The only point where you got active was when you realized that your nightkill was blocked by the doctor.
You got away because people looked scummier than you. That's the whole story of darthfoley in this game.
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The only chance you have is that you kill Koshi this night (which would turn out kinda bad if doctor can heal himself) and hope that sicklucker is going to lynch me.
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On April 18 2017 05:33 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2017 05:28 darthfoley wrote:On April 18 2017 05:02 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 18 2017 04:50 darthfoley wrote:
The only narrative btdt has been trying to peddle is that I've "coasted" through the game and not done anything, which is
1) factually inaccurate
2) what he has done this whole game. Just scum read yourself and be done with it That's wrong - I have pushed my lynch all game long, and Tumble turned out VT. That leaves you since Koshi is doc and sicklucker got doc-confirmed. It's really that easy, it's not even about coasting or anything. You're simply the last scum and 80% of your towncred comes from bussing Calix. 100% of your town cred comes from a conversation one hour into the game and you throwing a hissy fit. Sorry you feel that way Koshi That's wrong Oo. I have explained myself over and over again. I have as well re-explained why I think Tumble is scum AND I have answered to pretty much every single question (esp. from Shapelog) that was directed towards me. What you are taking about is your scummate, Calix, pushing me at the beginning of the game, and then backing off of me for whatever reason. I continued to discuss with her though. All you did was sit back and let lynches happen. The only point where you got active was when you realized that your nightkill was blocked by the doctor. You got away because people looked scummier than you. That's the whole story of darthfoley in this game.
Nah, I was the main reason Shapelog got lynched and I cased Rels as much as a three page filter could provide. I didn't sit back nor did I let lynches happen at any point. I actually tried to talk to Shapelog on the day he was lynched while you sit back and let nothing happen. I've been active the whole game.
Anyways, there's no point in arguing with you because you're scum. I'll take my case into the final three
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Thanks for the NK advice, i'll keep that in mind
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On April 18 2017 05:39 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2017 05:33 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 18 2017 05:28 darthfoley wrote:On April 18 2017 05:02 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 18 2017 04:50 darthfoley wrote:
The only narrative btdt has been trying to peddle is that I've "coasted" through the game and not done anything, which is
1) factually inaccurate
2) what he has done this whole game. Just scum read yourself and be done with it That's wrong - I have pushed my lynch all game long, and Tumble turned out VT. That leaves you since Koshi is doc and sicklucker got doc-confirmed. It's really that easy, it's not even about coasting or anything. You're simply the last scum and 80% of your towncred comes from bussing Calix. 100% of your town cred comes from a conversation one hour into the game and you throwing a hissy fit. Sorry you feel that way Koshi That's wrong Oo. I have explained myself over and over again. I have as well re-explained why I think Tumble is scum AND I have answered to pretty much every single question (esp. from Shapelog) that was directed towards me. What you are taking about is your scummate, Calix, pushing me at the beginning of the game, and then backing off of me for whatever reason. I continued to discuss with her though. All you did was sit back and let lynches happen. The only point where you got active was when you realized that your nightkill was blocked by the doctor. You got away because people looked scummier than you. That's the whole story of darthfoley in this game. Nah, I was the main reason Shapelog got lynched and I cased Rels as much as a three page filter could provide. I didn't sit back nor did I let lynches happen at any point. I actually tried to talk to Shapelog on the day he was lynched while you sit back and let nothing happen. I've been active the whole game. Anyways, there's no point in arguing with you because you're scum. I'll take my case into the final three
"Casing Rels" must be so exhausting since his filter leaves close to nothing to work with.
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On April 18 2017 06:46 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2017 05:39 darthfoley wrote:On April 18 2017 05:33 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 18 2017 05:28 darthfoley wrote:On April 18 2017 05:02 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 18 2017 04:50 darthfoley wrote:
The only narrative btdt has been trying to peddle is that I've "coasted" through the game and not done anything, which is
1) factually inaccurate
2) what he has done this whole game. Just scum read yourself and be done with it That's wrong - I have pushed my lynch all game long, and Tumble turned out VT. That leaves you since Koshi is doc and sicklucker got doc-confirmed. It's really that easy, it's not even about coasting or anything. You're simply the last scum and 80% of your towncred comes from bussing Calix. 100% of your town cred comes from a conversation one hour into the game and you throwing a hissy fit. Sorry you feel that way Koshi That's wrong Oo. I have explained myself over and over again. I have as well re-explained why I think Tumble is scum AND I have answered to pretty much every single question (esp. from Shapelog) that was directed towards me. What you are taking about is your scummate, Calix, pushing me at the beginning of the game, and then backing off of me for whatever reason. I continued to discuss with her though. All you did was sit back and let lynches happen. The only point where you got active was when you realized that your nightkill was blocked by the doctor. You got away because people looked scummier than you. That's the whole story of darthfoley in this game. Nah, I was the main reason Shapelog got lynched and I cased Rels as much as a three page filter could provide. I didn't sit back nor did I let lynches happen at any point. I actually tried to talk to Shapelog on the day he was lynched while you sit back and let nothing happen. I've been active the whole game. Anyways, there's no point in arguing with you because you're scum. I'll take my case into the final three "Casing Rels" must be so exhausting since his filter leaves close to nothing to work with.
Your only this read entire game was TW yet you tried to mislynch me yesterday, probably knowing that you were an insta win in a final 3 with SL/Koshi + TW.
If you were so sure TW was scum, why didn't you "sheep" Koshi and vote TW with him last night; after all, you had been okay doing that multiple times earlier in the game.
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Just look at how btdt played yesterday. Supposedly had this scum read on TW for the entire game yet abandons that for no reason in a F5 and goes after me based off of literally 0 things.
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On April 10 2017 04:49 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2017 04:22 Shapelog wrote:On April 10 2017 03:34 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 09 2017 22:53 Shapelog wrote:On April 09 2017 11:23 darthfoley wrote:On April 09 2017 11:17 Shapelog wrote:On April 09 2017 10:32 darthfoley wrote:
Let's gooooo Also u going to answer me or not? What was the question? On April 09 2017 09:16 Shapelog wrote:
Also what do you think about the SL part of the Rels post? That i made.
On April 09 2017 18:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Hi. voting shape seems to be the obvious thing. Worth a try but I am paranoid over Shape being town. There are some things in his filter that feel a lot like it and people might be tunneled.
We're down to one scum, so we have 7 town votes and 1 scum votes. That means that the scum vote isn't that relevant anymore.
I think Tumble might get too easy town credit. Yes I know that I give him town credit for the Calix/Tumble is unlikely stuff but it's not a full clear. Same goes for Rels, someone said that it would've been a big risk for scum!Rels to make the wagon 3-3 with a AFK Calix.
but then again, a Rels/Calix scumteam feels weird given the level of afk'ness that both have/had.
My main pain points on Shape are hedging and committing to the wrong wagon. But: he could've voted with Tumbe/Sicklucker as there was (imho) no way more people would pile on TW. I wasn't in thread and thread wasn't interested in Tumble.
Maybe it's just town paranoia. My top townreads do vote for shape. So while I'm still paranoid, it's okay I guess.
##vote Shapelog Seriously tho, Where are you actually with tumble and Rels? This post tells me nothing bc ironically ur wishy washing in it. Why is the afk scum team weird when you dont know the factors of it? It is pretty clear that I started to townread Tumble from my previous posts. It is pretty clear that I townread Rels for voting 4-2 instead of 3-3. Yes, it's not in the post you quoted. BUT it is in the posts I already made during the night. So - no, I am not wishy washy in it. A afk scum team would be weird because it's really hard to read into. I clearly express that I am okay with voting you, Shape, and I am content in following my top townreads. I am NOT being wishy washy because I ALSO say that I do have doubts about you being scum. Which is pretty normal. I don't know how you can say that I'm wishy washy there. Only way to do it is if you completely discard my posts during the night. Because your providing yourself a way to get out of those reads. I think Tumble might get too easy town credit. Yes I know that I give him town credit for the Calix/Tumble is unlikely stuff but it's not a full clear. Same goes for Rels, someone said that it would've been a big risk for scum!Rels to make the wagon 3-3 with a AFK Calix. Those reasoning on why you think they are town are also what you are saying giving them too much town credit. You admit this yourself in that post. Why do you want others to not look at your townreads as town, or now relook and give them less credit? It makes no sense if you really think they are town. Even with doubts about them, I don't see someone making a post where they state that the reason they are townreading shouldn't be giving that much credit. It's really alarming esp. to me bc Ik either you or Rels 90% of the time here is mafia. And here you are potentially setting up to ML them if your mafia. And lets say you are fine with me being lynched and do have doubts saying im scum.What I dont follow is the reasoning to keep posting things to show off your not certain. I get openly discussing in the thread ad that kinda of stuff, but the way you do it doesn't achieve anything from a townie mindset other than maybe convincing yourself I am scum...Which you SHOULD BE AT come to think if you think the rest of the people are town, like you just stated in your reply. For example you post this. Hi. voting shape seems to be the obvious thing. Worth a try but I am paranoid over Shape being town. There are some things in his filter that feel a lot like it and people might be tunneled.
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My main pain points on Shape are hedging and committing to the wrong wagon. But: he could've voted with Tumbe/Sicklucker as there was (imho) no way more people would pile on TW. I wasn't in thread and thread wasn't interested in Tumble.
Maybe it's just town paranoia. My top townreads do vote for shape. So while I'm still paranoid, it's okay I guess.
You have reasons to think im town, but your sticking with your townreads stance on me. I understand that. But saying your certain in your vote isn't true. You stated "it's okay i guess.", meaning not only do you doubt your read, but also your vote. Furthermore in the night, you stated you dont feel certain on it and had more reasons to think im town But overall, Shape's filter feels like he's active, asking questions, progressing the thread. He's sticking to asking Tumble stuff, he continuesly says he's fine with a Calix lynch, and overall keeps a calm town which isn't necessarily easy to have as town when you're faced with rayn, sicklucker and myself (esp. myself).
In general, kudos to Koshi and Shape and Rayn for calming me down instead of tilting me further.
I'm not sure about Shape at this point.
According to what you just said in your reply. There should be NO ONE ELSE to suspect as scum if you think that tumble is town, and rels is town, then me. Meaning, you should be on my ass with fire. Instead you "have doubts" Of course I get out of reads. Reads are subject to change over the course of the game. Everyone who says "this guy is 100% alignment x" and is always right is scum. You say: Show nested quote +Those reasoning on why you think they are town are also what you are saying giving them too much town credit. You admit this yourself in that post. Why do you want others to not look at your townreads as town, or now relook and give them less credit? It makes no sense if you really think they are town. Because I might be wrong Oo. I want everyone to not sheep me but instead develop their own opinions. Especially in terms of town reads I am not supposed to make everyone my townreads their townreads. I'd do so if one of my townreads would be up for the lynch which is not the case. Show nested quote +It's really alarming esp. to me bc Ik either you or Rels 90% of the time here is mafia. And here you are potentially setting up to ML them if your mafia. If it's either me or Rels, why did you absolutely not care about me or Rels previously? Why did you even vote with me? Why didn't you vote for Rels? And where do you get this very high probability from? Show nested quote +And lets say you are fine with me being lynched and do have doubts saying im scum.What I dont follow is the reasoning to keep posting things to show off your not certain. I get openly discussing in the thread ad that kinda of stuff, but the way you do it doesn't achieve anything from a townie mindset other than maybe convincing yourself I am scum...Which you SHOULD BE AT come to think if you think the rest of the people are town, like you just stated in your reply. It's rather easy: my top scumread changed to a townread. I have not put in the work (freely admitting that) to re-read everyone, especially since I am fairly happy with you being lynched - I think the chance that you flip scum is at a decent 60-75%. I freely admit to not having original scumreads on my own right now - which might be scum indicative but to be frank I don't care too much what people think at this point. I mean what's wrong with voting with my top town reads, especially rayn, given that he was the main incentive in lynching Calix which turned out to be a good move? Show nested quote +You have reasons to think im town, but your sticking with your townreads stance on me. I understand that. But saying your certain in your vote isn't true. You stated "it's okay i guess.", meaning not only do you doubt your read, but also your vote.
Furthermore in the night, you stated you dont feel certain on it and had more reasons to think im town Yeah, that's true. I'm not 100% sure you're scum, and if Calix had flipped town, I'm pretty sure I'd still be going for Tumblewood way over you. The things you have going for you are things like activity, things like "I have to flip sooner or later because I won't be able to clear myself anyways" which I fully understand (I have the same feeling about myself to be honest, if you don't flip scum, I expect a rather fast mislynch on me) I do not really know thought what you want to achieve with writing what you wrote there. Show nested quote +According to what you just said in your reply. There should be NO ONE ELSE to suspect as scum if you think that tumble is town, and rels is town, then me. Meaning, you should be on my ass with fire. Instead you "have doubts" Yeah, I do. As you correctly wrote, if you're not scum, all I have left is technically Koshi, who's also townie to me (he voted Calix early, right?). But remember D1. I got blamed as "bad town" a subjective 10000 times. It's quite possible that I'm wrong on things. That makes me unsure.
(it's ironic because btdt is apparently king of the original scum reads)
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Day 5
Sicklurker was found dead he was a vt
you have 48 hours
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Voting darthfoley and expecting some more half-assed attempts to get me lynched  .
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##vote darthfoley
Not changing.
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this was all so obvious. shame on you koshi
##vote: beentheredonethat
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On April 18 2017 16:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Voting darthfoley and expecting some more half-assed attempts to get me lynched .
I've made my case against you multiple times. If Koshi can't see the light then it's his problem, not mine. I'm done with this fuck ass game
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EPT
