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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:55 GMT
#601
it just means you have a conscience -,-
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2017 10:55 GMT
#602
okay okay. btdt is probably mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:56 GMT
#603
On April 07 2017 19:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In this post:
On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix?


No, I don't.

But that's not the point.

You clearly think it is.

Why does it matter what I think then?

Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"?

Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in.



Yup. I flagged that sentence as well. It was soooooooo fucking weird.

It's not weird, not at all.

"We're both town" implies: "we are both arguing from a town perspective" because even if one of us is not town, he will always try to pretend he is. So I said what I think we should do because at that point, I already felt like Calix' push had gone too far and is not based on a solid fundament anymore.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:58 GMT
#604
ok. We've reached a point where any continues discussion with me is not bringing the thread any further. Rayn, Koshi, sicklucker are all scumreading me and I've tried my best to explain what I did and why I did it.

So just lynch me, enjoy my VT flip, and continue the game without my apparently bad contributions.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 07 2017 10:58 GMT
#605
On April 07 2017 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay okay. btdt is probably mafia.

Good we added him back in the pool this morning
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 07 2017 11:00 GMT
#606
On April 07 2017 19:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
ok. We've reached a point where any continues discussion with me is not bringing the thread any further. Rayn, Koshi, sicklucker are all scumreading me and I've tried my best to explain what I did and why I did it.

So just lynch me, enjoy my VT flip, and continue the game without my apparently bad contributions.

It is our right to do so. Also, how you interact with us shows me you see us all 3 as "equals". While sl and I were scumreads. Now you already flipped on me (which is nai) but why also sl?

Anyway you don't have to defend constantly.

Problem is Calix and Shape are not here. And Rels is afk again.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2017 11:00 GMT
#607
i liked all the green stuff you pointed out koshi but what struck me was the... well let me quote it word to word.
"Now to the interesting stuff....
wrote exactly 267 words and ~170 we get into the interesting stuff.....
yeahhhh...
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2017 11:02 GMT
#608
My problem is i still don't think he's mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2017 11:02 GMT
#609
fuck.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 07 2017 11:03 GMT
#610
On April 07 2017 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i liked all the green stuff you pointed out koshi but what struck me was the... well let me quote it word to word.
"Now to the interesting stuff....
wrote exactly 267 words and ~170 we get into the interesting stuff.....
yeahhhh...

Porbably because the 170 words before that he was reaching. And just like Calix arguing about unexplainable stuff is easier and cleaner.

meh. Shape still worries me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 07 2017 11:05 GMT
#611
hopefully df makes another great set of posts soon.
I had a good night of sleep.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 11:05 GMT
#612
On April 07 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
The whole sicklucker Rayn argument is getting out of hand, all the while everyone else gets away with doing nothing, specifically speaking of Tumblewood. Why is this added in this post. Such a bad start bro. It shows you are refreshing the game but you can't join the conversation, and in the mean time you are typing up a big post and that is something mafia prefers to do. There is also nothing on rayn or sicklucker that helps the thread here

Like, what is Tumble even doing?

* starts the game with seven posts which are absolutely irrelevant banter NAI
* puts up three posts that have somewhat of game relevance (but then, no follow up, so that renders his questions pointless) I dislike your interpretation of those posts granted.
* enters thread again, claims a mind meld, drops a townread for that on calix NAI I'm observing
* his mind meld is scumreading me for exactly what Calix said, pretty much following thread sentiment Not true at all. Thread sentiment was against Calixthat's wrong
* BUT ends up calling me bad town So what? there's no commitment to his read. "Here are reasons to scumread him. But I think he's bad town."
* one more townread on ShapeNAI correct, but three townreads and no scum reads while following thread sentiment ARE aligment indicative.
* claims to have done "meta research" on Rels pregame, votes Rels Did he? lol. NAI though again, read the below part of my case, Koshi. You're just trying to discredit me here.
* more vague stuff ("spidey senses", some more blabla) spidey senses are town or he is lieing. NAIit's either NAI or town indicative or mafia indicative. You say it's "NAI, or town, or lieing". What the fuck

This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". But that does not align with the "I prepared for Rels pregame" thing. Why would you banter if you even took the time and prepared (assuming he's town, of course) for a game? You should be more afraid of being scumread, right? I don't understand "I have prepared for reading Rels. I invested time into the game. Then I start this game by making absolutely useless posts that might lead to people scumreading me. I bring a certain "I dont care" factor to the game ALTHOUGH the preparation clearly shows he CARES. What part of that do you not understand?

Next action, the famous "Calix is town and btdt is bad town" stuff. Claims to have a mind meld with Calix there but note the difference in the "bad town" timing that he and Calix have. It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did. I disagreeCool. But I agree. Can you please not throw away a theory in two words?

His townread on Shape is unexplained. But that's not alignment indicative. Nevertheless, it's always easier to say "uh this guy's probably town" as scum then committing to a real push. Decent point

Now to the interesting stuff. The pregame research on Rels. I have a hard time believeing that. Why?
1. The game was posted rather spontanously.
2. The game filled up really, really fast.
3. Why would you research on someone's meta in such a short period of time when you cannot possibly know whether you're rolling town or scum?
4. Why claim that research? Obviously, to gain town creds. "Uh, damn, I did something and it's useless because the guy is not there. Let's vote him!" I agree with everything you say here. But why would mafia create such a stupid lie?... Just so random.Because mafia might very well feel the need to justify a vote that is completely against what everyone else is doing. "Hey, I dont want to commit to something, so I just vote the AFK guy. But I need an explanation for that". Claiming the preparation doesn't make sense when your next action is voting the guy you prepared for - but it DOES make sense if you feel like you want to gain town points for your vote somehow.

The vote on Rels in combination with three(!) townreads and a weird "I prepared" post really let's me think Tumble is mafia, trying to pile on a afk player (i.e. low hanging mislynch fruit for scum). When having only townreads, voting an afker is not the worst decisionThat's correct but you have to admit that Tumblewood is not exactly commiting on anything which again, is mafia indicative.

Summary: Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour. Or trash town behavior. Like... Why is it mafia behavior. He is not looking good at all.Double standards. He is considered trash town, I am considered scum although I'm currently explaining my heart out


"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2017 11:05 GMT
#613
sicklucker and Calix.
table for two on a tv tray
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 11:06 GMT
#614
On April 07 2017 20:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
ok. We've reached a point where any continues discussion with me is not bringing the thread any further. Rayn, Koshi, sicklucker are all scumreading me and I've tried my best to explain what I did and why I did it.

So just lynch me, enjoy my VT flip, and continue the game without my apparently bad contributions.

It is our right to do so. Also, how you interact with us shows me you see us all 3 as "equals". While sl and I were scumreads. Now you already flipped on me (which is nai) but why also sl?

Anyway you don't have to defend constantly.

Problem is Calix and Shape are not here. And Rels is afk again.

I don't see you as "equals". I see you and rayn as the guys who keep pushing me and sl as the guy who's mad at me and content in voting for me.

Please stop making things up, once more :/
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2017 11:07 GMT
#615
On April 07 2017 20:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 20:00 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
ok. We've reached a point where any continues discussion with me is not bringing the thread any further. Rayn, Koshi, sicklucker are all scumreading me and I've tried my best to explain what I did and why I did it.

So just lynch me, enjoy my VT flip, and continue the game without my apparently bad contributions.

It is our right to do so. Also, how you interact with us shows me you see us all 3 as "equals". While sl and I were scumreads. Now you already flipped on me (which is nai) but why also sl?

Anyway you don't have to defend constantly.

Problem is Calix and Shape are not here. And Rels is afk again.

I don't see you as "equals". I see you and rayn as the guys who keep pushing me and sl as the guy who's mad at me and content in voting for me.

Please stop making things up, once more :/

I see rayn pushing me. Please do not make things up.
table for two on a tv tray
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 11:07 GMT
#616
ah well I lost interest in the game. Even if I am not lynched today, I'll be mislynched D2 or D3 given how this discussion goes anyway. I'd prefer to be the lynch today so you guys can argue about whatever you want.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2017 11:08 GMT
#617
shut up and play.
table for two on a tv tray
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 11:08 GMT
#618
I'm rather serious. I'm already not enjoying this game and it won't be better. It feels like whatever I say to explain stuff, all you guys do is put more questions. You kinda want to scumread me at that point. Maybe you should back off the thread and re-read me without the heat of the discussion, especially the last 5-6 pages of the thread. But then again, that's up to you.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2017 11:08 GMT
#619
well not shut up.
stop being a dumbass and play.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 07 2017 11:08 GMT
#620
On April 07 2017 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker and Calix.

btdt/shape is what worries me atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
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