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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:32 GMT
#561
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:33 GMT
#562
beentheredonethat can you explain any of your mafia reads im kind of surprised you have so many looking at your list. maybe start with myself
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 07 2017 10:33 GMT
#563
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?
I had a good night of sleep.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:34 GMT
#564
On April 07 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
The whole sicklucker Rayn argument is getting out of hand, all the while everyone else gets away with doing nothing, specifically speaking of Tumblewood.

Like, what is Tumble even doing?

* starts the game with seven posts which are absolutely irrelevant banter
* puts up three posts that have somewhat of game relevance (but then, no follow up, so that renders his questions pointless)
* enters thread again, claims a mind meld, drops a townread for that on calix
* his mind meld is scumreading me for exactly what Calix said, pretty much following thread sentiment
* BUT ends up calling me bad town
* one more townread on Shape
* claims to have done "meta research" on Rels pregame, votes Rels
* more vague stuff ("spidey senses", some more blabla)

This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". But that does not align with the "I prepared for Rels pregame" thing. Why would you banter if you even took the time and prepared (assuming he's town, of course) for a game? You should be more afraid of being scumread, right?

Next action, the famous "Calix is town and btdt is bad town" stuff. Claims to have a mind meld with Calix there but note the difference in the "bad town" timing that he and Calix have. It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did.

His townread on Shape is unexplained. But that's not alignment indicative. Nevertheless, it's always easier to say "uh this guy's probably town" as scum then committing to a real push.

Now to the interesting stuff. The pregame research on Rels. I have a hard time believeing that. Why?
1. The game was posted rather spontanously.
2. The game filled up really, really fast.
3. Why would you research on someone's meta in such a short period of time when you cannot possibly know whether you're rolling town or scum?
4. Why claim that research? Obviously, to gain town creds. "Uh, damn, I did something and it's useless because the guy is not there. Let's vote him!"

The vote on Rels in combination with three(!) townreads and a weird "I prepared" post really let's me think Tumble is mafia, trying to pile on a afk player (i.e. low hanging mislynch fruit for scum).

Summary: Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour.



getting sick townreads apparently
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:35 GMT
#565
On April 07 2017 19:33 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?


no? looked townie unless shes a notorious busser
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 07 2017 10:35 GMT
#566
Calix her conversations are all way to static. Way to fucking static. When she is onto something and actually interested in what she is engaging about she jumps fast. Tries to identify that person his alignment.

This game was summed up perfectly with the banana example. She is just giving arguments without moving towards an answer.
I had a good night of sleep.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:35 GMT
#567
On April 07 2017 19:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:22 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2017 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
beentheredonethat where does your read go from town -> scum on Calix?

On April 07 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could you answer with quoting the posts / explaining it fully from the beginning (the read progression) so i don't have to guess what happenings in the game you are talking about.


Whew. That's a lot. So first of all, Calix went after me pretty harshly, seemingly about "Why are you not voting although you claim it's pushworthy?". I felt like this was a rather constructed thing, given it was the very beginning of D1 and people were still entering the thread.

However, I felt she was going after me relentlessly which per se is not scum indicative but already felt weird - it's like "hey it's D1 and you're going harshly after me for some weird reasons that are just weak". So I started to think she's mafia, trying to get into the thread without getting called out on it (which in this case would've been a success). What really bugged me then though was the drop-off of me, claiming a misunderstanding. Also, the semantics thing that I pointed out early was weird - calling me out on "you say it's pushworthy but don't push", and then claiming "I don't scumread you, I think you're scummy" (i dont get the point of this anyway).

I can see this coming from a town!Calix but I can also see it from a scum!Calix and I tend to weigh towards scum in here.


Then why did she go from "I am going to call it a day and call Calix and Tumble the mafia team" to "Calix is perfect null". WITHOUT Calix posting.

I think you're weighing too much on the list post null but I can understand this. Hmm I think my Calix read simply changed because yesterday, I was content with the result of the conversation but I obviously reealuated at some point.

I don't see how this read change is a big reason to vote me though. Especially since you're voting with sicklucker who you are fighting with currently. But yeah your choice

I am not fighting with sicklucker. I am having fun with him. It has nothing to do with this game. I think sicklucker is null and I have said that multiple times. Try to not say incorrect things please. That annoys me.

Again. Why can't you find mafia this game? And don't give me the "I have no time" "I am not invested as I should be" etc because that are the feelings you have as mafia. And not as town.
Why can't you find mafia? Or why are you not letting us help you find mafia? All these things.


Whelp, but I'm doing it: + Show Spoiler +
On April 07 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
The whole sicklucker Rayn argument is getting out of hand, all the while everyone else gets away with doing nothing, specifically speaking of Tumblewood.

Like, what is Tumble even doing?

* starts the game with seven posts which are absolutely irrelevant banter
* puts up three posts that have somewhat of game relevance (but then, no follow up, so that renders his questions pointless)
* enters thread again, claims a mind meld, drops a townread for that on calix
* his mind meld is scumreading me for exactly what Calix said, pretty much following thread sentiment
* BUT ends up calling me bad town
* one more townread on Shape
* claims to have done "meta research" on Rels pregame, votes Rels
* more vague stuff ("spidey senses", some more blabla)

This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". But that does not align with the "I prepared for Rels pregame" thing. Why would you banter if you even took the time and prepared (assuming he's town, of course) for a game? You should be more afraid of being scumread, right?

Next action, the famous "Calix is town and btdt is bad town" stuff. Claims to have a mind meld with Calix there but note the difference in the "bad town" timing that he and Calix have. It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did.

His townread on Shape is unexplained. But that's not alignment indicative. Nevertheless, it's always easier to say "uh this guy's probably town" as scum then committing to a real push.

Now to the interesting stuff. The pregame research on Rels. I have a hard time believeing that. Why?
1. The game was posted rather spontanously.
2. The game filled up really, really fast.
3. Why would you research on someone's meta in such a short period of time when you cannot possibly know whether you're rolling town or scum?
4. Why claim that research? Obviously, to gain town creds. "Uh, damn, I did something and it's useless because the guy is not there. Let's vote him!"

The vote on Rels in combination with three(!) townreads and a weird "I prepared" post really let's me think Tumble is mafia, trying to pile on a afk player (i.e. low hanging mislynch fruit for scum).

Summary: Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour.




On April 07 2017 19:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:25 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:18 Koshi wrote:
I am also interested in how you went from Calix meh (after your conversation) to Calix 100% scum (assdsa post) to Calix is perfect null.


On April 07 2017 18:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote:
Sicklucker
Tumbleweed
calix
koshi
Darthfoley
Rayn
shapelog
beentheredonethat
rels




No.

beentheredone
raynpelikoneet
Darthfoley
Rels
Calix
Dumbleweed
Koshi
shapelog
Sicklucker


That should be complete, or am I still forgetting someone

She's pretty close to my scum pile, isn't she.

SHE IS CLOSER TO YOURSELF THAN YOUR BIGGEST SCUMREAD.

And it is fucking bullshit that you have 4 people with 1 red letter but 2 people full green. That doesn't add up. And you are a tunneler and a decent scumhunter. So your play is fucking weird atm.

me
someone else
someone else
calix
the guy I vote for (ie. my biggest scumread)

not sure how Calix is closer to me in your perception there but you'll have a reason for it. I actually regret posting that list now.

See. That is what I mean. I have 1 red letter. And you are as m33k towards me like a little puppy. And I have as scummy as the person you are voting for.

Nothing adds up with you this game. Nothing.

I think there are quite a lot of things that add up. I'm also helping to explain some of the things that people apparently do not understand. I strongly recommend to get off of that list post. Don't bite into a list of names that I put up, instead focus on the actual contents of my posts. You are totally stuck on red letters and what not, although the main purpose I put that list up for was to show that I am not agreeing with sicklucker's reads. As I said previously, I should've explained better.

On April 07 2017 19:31 Koshi wrote:
I can blatantly lie and push that lie to scumread you and you defend against the lie...

What?


"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:35 GMT
#568
I mean its thin. they also dont look like mafia/mafia
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:36 GMT
#569
On April 07 2017 19:34 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
The whole sicklucker Rayn argument is getting out of hand, all the while everyone else gets away with doing nothing, specifically speaking of Tumblewood.

Like, what is Tumble even doing?

* starts the game with seven posts which are absolutely irrelevant banter
* puts up three posts that have somewhat of game relevance (but then, no follow up, so that renders his questions pointless)
* enters thread again, claims a mind meld, drops a townread for that on calix
* his mind meld is scumreading me for exactly what Calix said, pretty much following thread sentiment
* BUT ends up calling me bad town
* one more townread on Shape
* claims to have done "meta research" on Rels pregame, votes Rels
* more vague stuff ("spidey senses", some more blabla)

This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". But that does not align with the "I prepared for Rels pregame" thing. Why would you banter if you even took the time and prepared (assuming he's town, of course) for a game? You should be more afraid of being scumread, right?

Next action, the famous "Calix is town and btdt is bad town" stuff. Claims to have a mind meld with Calix there but note the difference in the "bad town" timing that he and Calix have. It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did.

His townread on Shape is unexplained. But that's not alignment indicative. Nevertheless, it's always easier to say "uh this guy's probably town" as scum then committing to a real push.

Now to the interesting stuff. The pregame research on Rels. I have a hard time believeing that. Why?
1. The game was posted rather spontanously.
2. The game filled up really, really fast.
3. Why would you research on someone's meta in such a short period of time when you cannot possibly know whether you're rolling town or scum?
4. Why claim that research? Obviously, to gain town creds. "Uh, damn, I did something and it's useless because the guy is not there. Let's vote him!"

The vote on Rels in combination with three(!) townreads and a weird "I prepared" post really let's me think Tumble is mafia, trying to pile on a afk player (i.e. low hanging mislynch fruit for scum).

Summary: Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour.



getting sick townreads apparently

can you please shut your fucking mouth

you react to my huge post with this bullshit you're exceptionally fucking bad if you're town or your scum right away

really go fuck yourself
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:36 GMT
#570
On April 07 2017 19:33 sicklucker wrote:
beentheredonethat can you explain any of your mafia reads im kind of surprised you have so many looking at your list. maybe start with myself

haha no go fuck yourself
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:36 GMT
#571
tumble had alot of good posts tho. maybe some bad ones I filtered out but some good ones
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:36 GMT
#572
da hell
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 07 2017 10:36 GMT
#573
On April 07 2017 19:35 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?


no? looked townie unless shes a notorious busser

How? How? How the fuck did she buss btdt if she 2 times within 4 posts denieing for "going after him" and "scumreading him" and then in the next 5 posts tries to end the conversation 4 times?

Are you for fucking real?
I had a good night of sleep.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:37 GMT
#574
why are you mad at me im so confused. im calling you mafia but in a decent manner?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 07 2017 10:37 GMT
#575
denieing for = denies
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 07 2017 10:38 GMT
#576
I am curious why btdt does respond to Koshi but not to me.
table for two on a tv tray
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:38 GMT
#577
On April 07 2017 19:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:35 sicklucker wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?


no? looked townie unless shes a notorious busser

How? How? How the fuck did she buss btdt if she 2 times within 4 posts denieing for "going after him" and "scumreading him" and then in the next 5 posts tries to end the conversation 4 times?

Are you for fucking real?

Exactly this, Koshi.

Koshi's behaviour, his push on me and also this post let's me think he's town. This doesn't feel like drive-by scum-Koshi that I am used to from hosting and playing.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:38 GMT
#578
On April 07 2017 19:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:35 sicklucker wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?


no? looked townie unless shes a notorious busser

How? How? How the fuck did she buss btdt if she 2 times within 4 posts denieing for "going after him" and "scumreading him" and then in the next 5 posts tries to end the conversation 4 times?

Are you for fucking real?


they dont look like mafia/mafia to me mostly due to having a large amount of posts with each other
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:38 GMT
#579
On April 07 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am curious why btdt does respond to Koshi but not to me.

I probably missed your post. What do you want me to answer?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:38 GMT
#580
On April 07 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am curious why btdt does respond to Koshi but not to me.


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