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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:04 GMT
#521
next up: how btdt is fake-raging
then: ok let's lynch him
then: btdt flips vt
then: oh btdt is such a bad town player

can we skip all of this somehow
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:06 GMT
#522
On April 07 2017 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nah i am sorry you're just scum btdt.

- Forget a guy in your reads list
- Make a big case on the said dude just after

Mmmm... no.

ok lynch me mr. 100% right and see how it goes

How about you explain how you got into this situation since your mr 100% guy is 100% not voting for you?

hm that's right but I feel like I'm in too deep already.

So first of all, I'm not putting in the efforts I should put in. I am lazy at posting - not explaining my thought process properly, nor am I reviewing my reads in a good manner. I do read the thread but I only open a filter here and there and see what to get out of it. So the consequences are that people scumread me because they have no idea about how I reached my conclusions. Which is perfectly fine, I'm more mad at myself right now.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:08 GMT
#523
So regarding Tumble:

I explained in the last big post why I scumread him. I didn't put him on my list because I simply quoted SL's list and re-arranged some names, which is really hard to do on mobile. My main point with that list was that I am seeing things different then sicklucker does which is why I did not remove the original quote.

Being called out on not having Tumble on the list brought me to reviewing Tumble once more, seeing if the read I gave him in my list would be correct. So I filter dived and summarized what he actually did, then drew my conclusions from it.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2017 10:08 GMT
#524
Let me try to explain.
You have a scumread on Tumblewood. You have to have had that from veeery beginning (because your case lays out things he did early on in the game - like his entering post). Now i have a hard time figuring out why someone who HAS to have the thought of "this post is scummy" doesnt (1) say that in the first place, or (2) forgets the person COMPLETELY in his first list. I don't care if you were on phone or what the fuck but your #1 scumread is always priority of discussion, always. You "considered" it #9 priority for some reason...
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2017 10:10 GMT
#525
On April 07 2017 19:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
So regarding Tumble:

I explained in the last big post why I scumread him. I didn't put him on my list because I simply quoted SL's list and re-arranged some names, which is really hard to do on mobile. My main point with that list was that I am seeing things different then sicklucker does which is why I did not remove the original quote.

Being called out on not having Tumble on the list brought me to reviewing Tumble once more, seeing if the read I gave him in my list would be correct. So I filter dived and summarized what he actually did, then drew my conclusions from it.


wait so you developed the scumread on him there????
oh god...
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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:11 GMT
#526
Regarding Koshi's vote on me: I think Koshi is interpreting way too much into my asdasdkjlkajsdlkasjdl thing. It shouldn't, especially in light of everything else I do, justify a vote. Not only am I present in thread, participate in a good way (with maybe flawed results), but also I am very open to discussions and dropping quite hard opinions on people. I tend to be absolutely inactive or super-bussy as scum and I don't think I'm replicating this meta here (which ofc is no 100% proof of me being town).

Also, there was this one game where I was lynched because I claimed doc vs. the actual cop or something (nomination for worst play of 2017 included) and I think if you just skim my low volume filter there you'll find a lot of similarities to my current filter.

I'm not willing to promise I'll improve but I am willing to promise that I'll try to improve. Feels bad to have thread consensus being "btdt is bad town" and it's also not really motivating to put more effort in, but then again it's my own fault.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2017 10:11 GMT
#527
how did you not have tumble on your list "because" you "re-arranged sl's list" which had tumble on it?
table for two on a tv tray
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:12 GMT
#528
On April 07 2017 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
So regarding Tumble:

I explained in the last big post why I scumread him. I didn't put him on my list because I simply quoted SL's list and re-arranged some names, which is really hard to do on mobile. My main point with that list was that I am seeing things different then sicklucker does which is why I did not remove the original quote.

Being called out on not having Tumble on the list brought me to reviewing Tumble once more, seeing if the read I gave him in my list would be correct. So I filter dived and summarized what he actually did, then drew my conclusions from it.


wait so you developed the scumread on him there????
oh god...

Nah. I thought he's scummy in the very moment he claimed the whole mindmeld thing, especially since he didn't do anything before. Nevertheless, it's day 1, and I just waited for more stuff. More stuff came, didn't improve. You can also check the vote timing if you don't believe me that I had him as scum before.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:13 GMT
#529
On April 07 2017 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how did you not have tumble on your list "because" you "re-arranged sl's list" which had tumble on it?

I guess I overwrote his name with another one's name to not have to fuck around with BBCode on mobile, then forgot to re-add him to the list.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2017 10:15 GMT
#530
On April 07 2017 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Regarding Koshi's vote on me: I think Koshi is interpreting way too much into my asdasdkjlkajsdlkasjdl thing. It shouldn't, especially in light of everything else I do, justify a vote. Not only am I present in thread, participate in a good way (with maybe flawed results), but also I am very open to discussions and dropping quite hard opinions on people. I tend to be absolutely inactive or super-bussy as scum and I don't think I'm replicating this meta here (which ofc is no 100% proof of me being town).

Also, there was this one game where I was lynched because I claimed doc vs. the actual cop or something (nomination for worst play of 2017 included) and I think if you just skim my low volume filter there you'll find a lot of similarities to my current filter.

I'm not willing to promise I'll improve but I am willing to promise that I'll try to improve. Feels bad to have thread consensus being "btdt is bad town" and it's also not really motivating to put more effort in, but then again it's my own fault.


Dude. I don't think anyone is bad town by default. At least i am trying to understand how you get into the conclusions you do. Just try to explain yourself if you're town.

First of all could you answer me in what i asked you about your read progression on Calix? It's around p3-4 in my filter.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:16 GMT
#531
On April 07 2017 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Regarding Koshi's vote on me: I think Koshi is interpreting way too much into my asdasdkjlkajsdlkasjdl thing. It shouldn't, especially in light of everything else I do, justify a vote.

You are defending the wrong reasons for my vote on you.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
April 07 2017 10:16 GMT
#532
On April 07 2017 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
beentheredonethat where does your read go from town -> scum on Calix?

On April 07 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could you answer with quoting the posts / explaining it fully from the beginning (the read progression) so i don't have to guess what happenings in the game you are talking about.

table for two on a tv tray
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:16 GMT
#533
On April 07 2017 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let me try to explain.
You have a scumread on Tumblewood. You have to have had that from veeery beginning (because your case lays out things he did early on in the game - like his entering post). Now i have a hard time figuring out why someone who HAS to have the thought of "this post is scummy" doesnt (1) say that in the first place, or (2) forgets the person COMPLETELY in his first list. I don't care if you were on phone or what the fuck but your #1 scumread is always priority of discussion, always. You "considered" it #9 priority for some reason...

Hm. I can see what you're coming from but in this case you either believe that I was/am absolutely lazy, not explaining my thought process properly, or you scumread me for it.

I mean I voted for him 17 hours ago and have not removed my vote ever since. If that does not say "he's a scumread" well what does it then
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 10:17 GMT
#534
On April 07 2017 19:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Regarding Koshi's vote on me: I think Koshi is interpreting way too much into my asdasdkjlkajsdlkasjdl thing. It shouldn't, especially in light of everything else I do, justify a vote.

You are defending the wrong reasons for my vote on you.

Well I'm not willing to defend what you already judged. It's more about showing that I'm not scum right now and in the upcoming days, right?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:17 GMT
#535
On April 07 2017 18:33 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2017 17:53 sicklucker wrote:
like I was so fucking townie what choice did you have. but now your going crazy again. honestly your so random. Im a very random mafia player myself so I kind of see that as possible mafia playz

Koshi you seriously think this is what sicklucker thinks of me as when i am mafia?

sicklucker is sicklucker. Do not apply logic.
Read the people on which you can actually apply logic. And then bother with sicklucker.

I am telling you. I was 100% convinced on 2 mafia reads last game, and the guy (sicklucker) made me so mad I removed a certain mafia read and mafia read him instead. Then he claimed doctor DURING the night. Still didn't get shot ofc.

And then endgame received 50 points.


.... thats not even close to what happened I thought you were shit talking another game
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:18 GMT
#536
I am also interested in how you went from Calix meh (after your conversation) to Calix 100% scum (assdsa post) to Calix is perfect null.
I had a good night of sleep.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:18 GMT
#537
only koshi would shit talk the guy voted second mvp as well. like think of what your doing there koshi.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 07 2017 10:18 GMT
#538
and if im second mvp whats that say about the skill of the acual mvp of that game
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:19 GMT
#539
On April 07 2017 19:17 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 18:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 07 2017 17:53 sicklucker wrote:
like I was so fucking townie what choice did you have. but now your going crazy again. honestly your so random. Im a very random mafia player myself so I kind of see that as possible mafia playz

Koshi you seriously think this is what sicklucker thinks of me as when i am mafia?

sicklucker is sicklucker. Do not apply logic.
Read the people on which you can actually apply logic. And then bother with sicklucker.

I am telling you. I was 100% convinced on 2 mafia reads last game, and the guy (sicklucker) made me so mad I removed a certain mafia read and mafia read him instead. Then he claimed doctor DURING the night. Still didn't get shot ofc.

And then endgame received 50 points.


.... thats not even close to what happened I thought you were shit talking another game

That is exactly what happened.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:20 GMT
#540
On April 07 2017 19:18 sicklucker wrote:
and if im second mvp whats that say about the skill of the acual mvp of that game

It says a lot about the people under the mvp. If it says anything about the mvp it is that he had done A LOT of work.
I had a good night of sleep.
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