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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2017 11:10 GMT
#621
Okay for your scumreads. Tumblewood. Try to convince people on your case, or get your vote on another of your scumreads? Why do you just wanna quit?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2017 11:10 GMT
#622
On April 07 2017 20:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker and Calix.

btdt/shape is what worries me atm.

can be but not btdt.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:11 GMT
#623
On April 07 2017 20:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm rather serious. I'm already not enjoying this game and it won't be better. It feels like whatever I say to explain stuff, all you guys do is put more questions. You kinda want to scumread me at that point. Maybe you should back off the thread and re-read me without the heat of the discussion, especially the last 5-6 pages of the thread. But then again, that's up to you.

That's the game bro. You were attacking me a lot when I was mafia in DotA 2.
atm we are attacking you because we consider you as mafia.

I also disliked getting attacked as town. Now I am more ok with. Something to do with being bad handling criticism and thinking that your play doesn't deserve criticism.

Anyway. We will see.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2017 11:12 GMT
#624
Koshi let's get this thing straight, he is not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2017 11:13 GMT
#625
Why even pretend? There is no reason to.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:13 GMT
#626
On April 07 2017 20:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi let's get this thing straight, he is not mafia.

I am waiting on DF his opinion. It is very possible he is not mafia. But I am not definitive yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:15 GMT
#627
On April 07 2017 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why even pretend? There is no reason to.

I still have game reasons to think he is mafia. But yeah, his emotions say town.
I had a good night of sleep.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 11:15 GMT
#628
On April 07 2017 20:11 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 20:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm rather serious. I'm already not enjoying this game and it won't be better. It feels like whatever I say to explain stuff, all you guys do is put more questions. You kinda want to scumread me at that point. Maybe you should back off the thread and re-read me without the heat of the discussion, especially the last 5-6 pages of the thread. But then again, that's up to you.

That's the game bro. You were attacking me a lot when I was mafia in DotA 2.
atm we are attacking you because we consider you as mafia.

I also disliked getting attacked as town. Now I am more ok with. Something to do with being bad handling criticism and thinking that your play doesn't deserve criticism.

Anyway. We will see.

I'm better at hosting anyways .
Exactly. I am fully aware that it's my own fault that people are scumreading me. But it's hard to swallow your own incompetence rather than blaming it on others.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 11:17 GMT
#629
On April 07 2017 20:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay for your scumreads. Tumblewood. Try to convince people on your case, or get your vote on another of your scumreads? Why do you just wanna quit?

It's mainly being melodramatic right now. I get discouraged from critique and am a praise-driven person. If you say I'm bad at something, I'd rather not try it again than retry and get better. That's actually one of my human flaws.

re: Tumblewood: I answered already to Koshi's remarks on that topic. But long story short, my key points on him are that he's making his life as easy as possible. He drops only town reads, votes for an afk guy, and claims that he prepared for a Rels read which struck out to me as really weird.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2017 11:18 GMT
#630
Game reasons. :p
Haha^^
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:20 GMT
#631
tumble/sicklucker is not the worst team.

- Both townread Calix for some reason.
- Shape read the Calix/btdt engagement tvt

So if those 2 are mafia town ate themselves up, which they always do.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2017 11:24 GMT
#632
No. Tumblewood does that always. Always some weird "i am living in my own world" sort of reads and vote. It doesn't make him mafia. Ever.

It is sicklucker and Calix. Maybe Shapelog. Maybe.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:26 GMT
#633
True.
I had a good night of sleep.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 11:26 GMT
#634
I have to admit that while I'm okay with a sicklucker lynch, I am fully aware it's more of a "I don't like this guy right now because what he's doing upsets me" thing and not based on a solid scum read.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:27 GMT
#635
On April 06 2017 20:51 Koshi wrote:
##vote Calix
I don't understand her.

On April 06 2017 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Would suck if you are mafia with Calix shape


I am running with this then.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2017 11:32 GMT
#636
btdt:

do you really think you case of "Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour" is better than this????

Or the thing on sicklucker noone else but me understands ...
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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 07 2017 11:37 GMT
#637
It's not about being better, rayn, it's about where I looked at thus far. I liked the points you linked on Calix and they are one of the reason why I'm townreading you but as of now, I simply haven't looked at Calix in such detail yet.

I should of course not tunnel on tumble but he's all I have for now. Given that I've been busy explaining and defending myself the last 3 hours or so, I think that's not a shame.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2017 11:39 GMT
#638
okay sleepy time. i wanted to go to bed at 9 am, its gonna be 3pm.
i am gonna be so tired (and drunk) tonight.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2017 11:42 GMT
#639
On April 07 2017 20:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
It's not about being better, rayn, it's about where I looked at thus far. I liked the points you linked on Calix and they are one of the reason why I'm townreading you but as of now, I simply haven't looked at Calix in such detail yet.

I should of course not tunnel on tumble but he's all I have for now. Given that I've been busy explaining and defending myself the last 3 hours or so, I think that's not a shame.

I think you should place some weight on what other people say aswell (aka Calix read from me and Koshi for example). If you wanna tunnel Tumble there is nothing wrong with that. Just keep in mind what other people say, and how other people perceive his play.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 07 2017 11:42 GMT
#640
*about him (tumble)
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