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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 17:43 GMT
#1961
On March 22 2017 02:41 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 02:35 Damdred wrote:
Yeah DF isn't bad reading his emotion and some responses to me as townish so far.

So the game is a lot harder than I thought.

No it is not, lynch Xatalos and we go from there. Adam is really good at this game btw.


Well probably so, even if lets say its Xata/Eden the third I just am having a hard time putting a finger on currently.

and i'll think about xata while i have to afk for a couple ehours

I have a couple of possibilities. And i am not 100% sure Eden is scum tbh.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 17:47 GMT
#1962
On March 22 2017 02:40 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
Eden/AMG/rayn? Eden/Onegu/rayn? Eden/Onegu/AMG?

Maybe.

At least I think there are 2+ scum in those groups.


For the sake of the argument, say rayn is really the blue role he claims that has been not CC'd. Take him out of your equation. How do you feel about the other people in the game: TW, damdred, Koshi, disformation, Calix. Any pecking order currently of how you view these players?


Well here's a rough ranking of everyone right now:

Calix
Damdred
Koshi
Tumble
disfo
DF
Onegu
AMG
Eden

Very rough. Some spots would likely move a place or two with filter-diving.

You increased in rank with the helpful/clear-headed attitude in this situation. AMG and Onegu dropped a bit for staying on the sidelines and/or supporting my lynch to some extent.

Dunno about Koshi. He probably genuinely bought the case somehow, even if the change was shockingly radical.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2017 17:48 GMT
#1963
Speaking of sitting on the sidelines

+ Show Spoiler +
disformation

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 17:49 GMT
#1964
Koshi is my weakest real townread atm though. It left a slightly odd feeling how he went from sure town to sure scum in a matter of minutes, defending me from everything one moment and fully confident I'm scum the next.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 17:53 GMT
#1965
On March 21 2017 23:42 AMG wrote:
I'm shifting my vote to Xalatos, I feel a heck of a lot more confident he's going to flip scum than Eden.


This is a pretty weak conclusion after having all D2 to figure things out :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 17:53 GMT
#1966
I am a shadow.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 17:54 GMT
#1967
On March 22 2017 02:47 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 02:40 darthfoley wrote:
On March 22 2017 02:38 Xatalos wrote:
Eden/AMG/rayn? Eden/Onegu/rayn? Eden/Onegu/AMG?

Maybe.

At least I think there are 2+ scum in those groups.


For the sake of the argument, say rayn is really the blue role he claims that has been not CC'd. Take him out of your equation. How do you feel about the other people in the game: TW, damdred, Koshi, disformation, Calix. Any pecking order currently of how you view these players?


Well here's a rough ranking of everyone right now:

Calix
Damdred
Koshi
Tumble
disfo
DF
Onegu
AMG
Eden

Very rough. Some spots would likely move a place or two with filter-diving.

You increased in rank with the helpful/clear-headed attitude in this situation. AMG and Onegu dropped a bit for staying on the sidelines and/or supporting my lynch to some extent.

Dunno about Koshi. He probably genuinely bought the case somehow, even if the change was shockingly radical.

I meant here. I am a shadow.
table for two on a tv tray
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2017 17:55 GMT
#1968
Idk, makes a lot of sense for mafia to try to peddle any potential mislynch out there in hopes of scum!Eden coming back to the game and wiggling out again or, what is more likely, bus and try to take extra credit when eden flips scum in the next day. In that sense it's still a 1 for 1 trade with potential for more, plus scum has gotten a blue role out unless we're in that all VT fuckfest Xata described.

meh
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 17:56 GMT
#1969
I am a shadow but Xatalos is red.
Gotta leave for poker. I am back in ~3 hrs with some device.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 17:56 GMT
#1970
Onegu is just WTF??? :D

I sitll have no idea what he's thinking or what that blue thing was.

+ Show Spoiler +
For the record, when he said that there was a blueclaim in the thread, I thought he meant Eden's "the setup isn't all vanilla btw". I didn't say it was a real claim, just that it was the only claim of any sort in the thread. But no idea what Onegu meant then. Something I said?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 21 2017 17:56 GMT
#1971
On March 22 2017 02:53 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 23:42 AMG wrote:
I'm shifting my vote to Xalatos, I feel a heck of a lot more confident he's going to flip scum than Eden.


This is a pretty weak conclusion after having all D2 to figure things out :/


Looking at his filter, he seemed to have progressed from scum to "liking Koshi's points" to scum again based on this:

On March 21 2017 23:28 AMG wrote:
Post 369

Just feels.... off. He thinks you're showing forced/fake agression, calls all your cases unconvincing and weak, and finishes it off with "At first I was half-convinced rayn was scum, but now I'm not sure again.

If someone I was "half-convinced" was scum started pulling that crap in my eyes, id probably find myself more convinced they're scum.


Your thoughts?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 17:57 GMT
#1972
Dunno how rayn disappeared from there, but it was supposed to be between DF and Onegu.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 21 2017 17:58 GMT
#1973
Also the solution to 'scum want town cred omg' is to give nobody any cred ever from any scum lynches this game. Problem solved.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:01 GMT
#1974
On March 22 2017 02:56 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 02:53 Xatalos wrote:
On March 21 2017 23:42 AMG wrote:
I'm shifting my vote to Xalatos, I feel a heck of a lot more confident he's going to flip scum than Eden.


This is a pretty weak conclusion after having all D2 to figure things out :/


Looking at his filter, he seemed to have progressed from scum to "liking Koshi's points" to scum again based on this:

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 23:28 AMG wrote:
Post 369

Just feels.... off. He thinks you're showing forced/fake agression, calls all your cases unconvincing and weak, and finishes it off with "At first I was half-convinced rayn was scum, but now I'm not sure again.

If someone I was "half-convinced" was scum started pulling that crap in my eyes, id probably find myself more convinced they're scum.


Your thoughts?


To be fair AMG does make a fair amount of conclusions in his filter.

I can see it possibly coming from town. Still a weak conclusion.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:08 GMT
#1975
I guess I appreciate the support. It'd be more useful to have a close race up to deadline though. If there's going to be more votes for Eden, please refrain until later on so that scum have to make hard choices.

(It's highly unlikely that Eden is town with this vote progression though)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 18:09 GMT
#1976
the fuck did you guys 10+ pages of thread while I wasnt looking.
guess ill make myself a tea and find out.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 18:12 GMT
#1977
why are ppl unvoting me when i wasnt even around? usually it works the other way around.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:13 GMT
#1978
On March 22 2017 03:12 disformation wrote:
why are ppl unvoting me when i wasnt even around? usually it works the other way around.


It turned into me vs Eden so you're free from pressure Gz
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 18:17 GMT
#1979
Oh. I was hoping that a scummer would try to get me lynched over eden and make it easy for me. will still have to look at the ppl who where voting me later. dont think any of them where that into it. can't remember why df was voting me.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:19 GMT
#1980
On March 22 2017 03:17 disformation wrote:
Oh. I was hoping that a scummer would try to get me lynched over eden and make it easy for me. will still have to look at the ppl who where voting me later. dont think any of them where that into it. can't remember why df was voting me.


At least things were made easy for me
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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