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On March 22 2017 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are. How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment?
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On March 22 2017 02:11 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are. How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment? Well, by some simple logic. If we make the assumption that we're both town and competing on "rightness".... You were sure Malongo was scum. I was unsure. He wasn't. You're sure I'm scum. I'm not. I'm not sure you're scum. You're ??? (if not, then at least I'm closer to the truth again). Damdred is probably town. I'm probably right. Etc. etc.
wow wow wow...... "At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are."
No. "not sure" does not comply.
How are you CERTAINLY closer to truth than i am?
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Are you saying youre closer because i appear confident and you dont? Or what?
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On March 22 2017 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:11 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are. How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment? Well, by some simple logic. If we make the assumption that we're both town and competing on "rightness".... You were sure Malongo was scum. I was unsure. He wasn't. You're sure I'm scum. I'm not. I'm not sure you're scum. You're ??? (if not, then at least I'm closer to the truth again). Damdred is probably town. I'm probably right. Etc. etc. wow wow wow...... "At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are." No. "not sure" does not comply. How are you CERTAINLY closer to truth than i am?
Based on Malongo's flip and my own alignment. That's all I know for sure at this point. (ritoky not included since we never really debated that)
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And even if you're town, I'm still closer to the truth.
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On March 22 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:11 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are. How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment? Well, by some simple logic. If we make the assumption that we're both town and competing on "rightness".... You were sure Malongo was scum. I was unsure. He wasn't. You're sure I'm scum. I'm not. I'm not sure you're scum. You're ??? (if not, then at least I'm closer to the truth again). Damdred is probably town. I'm probably right. Etc. etc. wow wow wow...... "At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are." No. "not sure" does not comply. How are you CERTAINLY closer to truth than i am? Based on Malongo's flip and my own alignment. That's all I know for sure at this point. (ritoky not included since we never really debated that)
So if i am town and Tumble is town and Damdred is mafia how are you closer to truth than i am?
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Since you've pushed two "sure scum" in me and Malongo, both town, you've been very wrong with certainty. Either on purpose or due to mistakes.
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No, i am never switching my vote here.
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And how exactly did i push Malongo except for 1 post ~3hrs into the game?
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On March 22 2017 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:11 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are. How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment? Well, by some simple logic. If we make the assumption that we're both town and competing on "rightness".... You were sure Malongo was scum. I was unsure. He wasn't. You're sure I'm scum. I'm not. I'm not sure you're scum. You're ??? (if not, then at least I'm closer to the truth again). Damdred is probably town. I'm probably right. Etc. etc. wow wow wow...... "At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are." No. "not sure" does not comply. How are you CERTAINLY closer to truth than i am? Based on Malongo's flip and my own alignment. That's all I know for sure at this point. (ritoky not included since we never really debated that) So if i am town and Tumble is town and Damdred is mafia how are you closer to truth than i am?
I don't think that's a certainty. Even if it is, my current reads are certainly more accurate than yours, since I'm town. Unless we're both town and Eden/DF are both town, then maybe not, but that's very very unlikely.
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On March 22 2017 02:08 Damdred wrote:
Answer me this question DF
3. Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened
You do say that this is exactly what happened. This implies that Eden is not scum as Ritoky gives us lots of information if Eden is scum.
So why do you think that Eden is scum now and voting for him?
No, I think it's quite clear ritoky's kill gives us very little information, especially at the time I made the post. It leaves all the strong vocal town in the game, for the paranoia factor, it kills the kinda wildcard player. Which is E X A C T L Y why everyone in the thread at the time was like lolwtf when the ritoky kill happened. We'll obviously see more when more flips happen.
This whole day has kind of gone in waves against various people. First, disformation, then me kinda, then Xatalos. It almost feels to me like scum are trying to mud sling, see what sticks, somehow helping Eden survive one more day. Even one day extra of scum!Eden surviving could be important later in the game.
The fact that he has checked out of this game also feels indicative of scum to me. I just don't know in what world we let Eden slide out of being lynched based off of one AMG "i'm paranoid post." Well now i'm paranoid that we're talking ourselves out of an obvious lynch
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Oh nvm yeah i get that point.
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On March 22 2017 02:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And how exactly did i push Malongo except for 1 post ~3hrs into the game?
You repeated your points at other times during D1 and wholeheartedly approved the lynch without a shred of doubt.
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Xatalos is always mafia in this game. Hopefully other people will see it aswell. I am not going to be around (possibly) to argue about that later on. Hopefully Koshi is here, or AMG. Please at least read our interactions, read his filter, read my case. Try to understand. If you don't, then i can't help you much further. 
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On March 22 2017 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:08 darthfoley wrote:On March 22 2017 01:06 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 01:05 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 01:02 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:56 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both vote for me instead of Eden. I need a couple of hours to figure this shit out. Why in the name of all that is holy would you risk your own life as JK? Or claim in the first place, if I might ask? I would never do either of those actions as a blue, and you're very willing to abandon your role usage for some thread clout. Why would he do it as mafia? Why ask this question? And why are you ignoring my 3 posts I made on you? Sorry, I was keeping up with the thread on my phone in short bursts earlier. Didn't read your posts in detail. I'll get to them eventually. Could you maybe summarize your case? Because like a couple of pages ago I was your top town, now top scum. The change is really radical. As scum his actions would make a lot of sense. Gain some credibility by fakeclaiming (especially in a vanilla setup), direct the lynch away from himself/Eden, maybe get 1-2 mislynches before getting caught. If it's not a vanilla setup, he could alternatively catch the blues before going down. As town..... just why would he abandon his crucial role with ease and even want people to vote for him vs me? As scum he would certainly want that, since it'd be easier to win him vs me than Eden vs me. I already explained to you that there is no way rayn fucking fakeclaims to save his partner Eden. This is not fucking lylo and he can ALWAYS be counter to be CONFIRMED mafia. Why would he be THIS FUCKING DESPERATE AS MAFIA? Well in the vanilla setup it would make perfect sense. The situation was pretty desperate with scum vs scum wagons (assuming they're both scum). This is why I am uncomfortable lynching Xata for the time being. He seems to be the only one seriously considering THIS specifical scenario in which rayn can't be CC'd. Is it likely? Not really, but the fact that he's arguing it is townie IMO. Like why throw this much shade towards a blue, if you're scum!Xata?????? What is the end goal I am not getting lynched today 100%. If he is mafia he is gonna draw out the other PR and "cannot be blamed about it because he was right in that if it's all vanilla setup rayn can be mafia".
I guess, but I don't really get how questioning you would draw out the other blue in this scenario. Unless you mean the other blue would claim to protect you... which would be fucking stupid lol
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Koshi, what has Calix done recently that you still think she's lock town?
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On March 22 2017 02:18 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:08 Damdred wrote:
Answer me this question DF
3. Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened
You do say that this is exactly what happened. This implies that Eden is not scum as Ritoky gives us lots of information if Eden is scum.
So why do you think that Eden is scum now and voting for him? No, I think it's quite clear ritoky's kill gives us very little information, especially at the time I made the post. It leaves all the strong vocal town in the game, for the paranoia factor, it kills the kinda wildcard player. Which is E X A C T L Y why everyone in the thread at the time was like lolwtf when the ritoky kill happened. We'll obviously see more when more flips happen. This whole day has kind of gone in waves against various people. First, disformation, then me kinda, then Xatalos. It almost feels to me like scum are trying to mud sling, see what sticks, somehow helping Eden survive one more day. Even one day extra of scum!Eden surviving could be important later in the game. The fact that he has checked out of this game also feels indicative of scum to me. I just don't know in what world we let Eden slide out of being lynched based off of one AMG "i'm paranoid post." Well now i'm paranoid that we're talking ourselves out of an obvious lynch
I think the current situation is good. No matter if I or Eden gets lynched in the end, scum have to play their hand to some extent. It would be safer to just bus Eden to eternity if he's the only wagon and scum. And I think if he was town, he would have been lynched comfortably like Malongo, so that's likely the situation (town vs scum).
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DarthFoley why are you focusing on some stupd fucking shit that has nothing to do with the current interactions in the game, EVERY TIME?
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On March 22 2017 02:23 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 02:18 darthfoley wrote:On March 22 2017 02:08 Damdred wrote:
Answer me this question DF
3. Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened
You do say that this is exactly what happened. This implies that Eden is not scum as Ritoky gives us lots of information if Eden is scum.
So why do you think that Eden is scum now and voting for him? No, I think it's quite clear ritoky's kill gives us very little information, especially at the time I made the post. It leaves all the strong vocal town in the game, for the paranoia factor, it kills the kinda wildcard player. Which is E X A C T L Y why everyone in the thread at the time was like lolwtf when the ritoky kill happened. We'll obviously see more when more flips happen. This whole day has kind of gone in waves against various people. First, disformation, then me kinda, then Xatalos. It almost feels to me like scum are trying to mud sling, see what sticks, somehow helping Eden survive one more day. Even one day extra of scum!Eden surviving could be important later in the game. The fact that he has checked out of this game also feels indicative of scum to me. I just don't know in what world we let Eden slide out of being lynched based off of one AMG "i'm paranoid post." Well now i'm paranoid that we're talking ourselves out of an obvious lynch I think the current situation is good. No matter if I or Eden gets lynched in the end, scum have to play their hand to some extent. It would be safer to just bus Eden to eternity if he's the only wagon and scum. And I think if he was town, he would have been lynched comfortably like Malongo, so that's likely the situation (town vs scum).
I think if you're town the current situation would not be "good".
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On March 22 2017 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Xatalos is always mafia in this game. Hopefully other people will see it aswell. I am not going to be around (possibly) to argue about that later on. Hopefully Koshi is here, or AMG. Please at least read our interactions, read his filter, read my case. Try to understand. If you don't, then i can't help you much further.
You're just very wrong in this game. Purposefully or not. I feel you would have come around if you were town though.
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