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Xatalos
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2017 01:57 Xatalos wrote: Even Tumble and disfo have made me think they could be town lately. Why Tumble town? | ||
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darthfoley
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On March 22 2017 00:32 Damdred wrote: Yes, I do like this thought to. I also like the thought that he put a lot of work coming with solutions that he takes no real stance on himself. All of that writing and he comes up with 0 conclusions on his own. Its a bit bothering me on both points, and super interesting the easiest one is the lesst likely to him. Sorry but this is ass cheeks. I do take a stance on what I think is more likely and less likely. I DO explain WHY I find the scenarios likely or unlikely. So I do make "conclusions" about the scenarios. Why is it super interesting the I find the "easiest" one the least likely? Please, elaborate and show me your conclusions about why ritoky died! Fair point to Koshi I guess but your addendum is absolute garbage | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) | ||
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Xatalos
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2017 02:00 Xatalos wrote: There was a more detailed explanation somewhere in my filter, but in summary, he's been doing his own thing consistently without seeming to care about how he looks. Also his confusions seemed surprisingly genuine on reread. (That and he wouldn't make much sense as scum if you were town since the way he acted EOD D1) I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? | ||
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Damdred
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On March 22 2017 01:59 darthfoley wrote: Sorry but this is ass cheeks. I do take a stance on what I think is more likely and less likely. I DO explain WHY I find the scenarios likely or unlikely. So I do make "conclusions" about the scenarios. Why is it super interesting the I find the "easiest" one the least likely? Please, elaborate and show me your conclusions about why ritoky died! Fair point to Koshi I guess but your addendum is absolute garbage You list all of these possible scenerios and list how possible they are but not all of them can exist at the same time, some can exist at the same time but a lot of them go against one another. So yeah you really don't take your own stand just list what you think is possible and leave it at that. You do not actually say which one you believe. The easiest solution is that Ritoky was just right tbh. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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darthfoley
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Yea there may be question marks about Xata or whatever, but if Eden is scum and his scum mates get the obvious lynch off of him without him having posted, I will eat my own ass in frustration after this game. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
##vote Eden | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On March 22 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have said this all D1 and you considered us both mafia all D1 and now you are telling me (on D2) that i am pathetic because i ahve been all game wrong when your scumreads were rayn/Tumble/Malongo and you even voted for the non-scum of that list ( as you yourself said). Makes sense? Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2017 02:06 Xatalos wrote: Not sure if I followed your thought process there. Anyways it's not sure if I was completely wrong D1 yet, and it's not that bad to make mistakes on D1. At this point I'm time I'm certainly closer to the truth than you are. How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment? | ||
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Damdred
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3. Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened You do say that this is exactly what happened. This implies that Eden is not scum as Ritoky gives us lots of information if Eden is scum. So why do you think that Eden is scum now and voting for him? | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On March 22 2017 01:06 Xatalos wrote: Well in the vanilla setup it would make perfect sense. The situation was pretty desperate with scum vs scum wagons (assuming they're both scum). This is why I am uncomfortable lynching Xata for the time being. He seems to be the only one seriously considering THIS specifical scenario in which rayn can't be CC'd. Is it likely? Not really, but the fact that he's arguing it is townie IMO. Like why throw this much shade towards a blue, if you're scum!Xata?????? What is the end goal | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On March 22 2017 02:04 darthfoley wrote: Btw I still think Eden is the lynch today. I voted for disformation for CW and discussion purposes but i'm more comfortable with Eden dying than Xatalos, especially because I don't think there's been a slam dunk case for Eden's townieness yet now the winds seem to be shifting off of him even though he's done absolutely nothing. Yea there may be question marks about Xata or whatever, but if Eden is scum and his scum mates get the obvious lynch off of him without him having posted, I will eat my own ass in frustration after this game. No need to consolidate yet though. It'll certainly be more interesting if it's even or even slightly against me towards the end. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On March 22 2017 02:08 darthfoley wrote: This is why I am uncomfortable lynching Xata for the time being. He seems to be the only one seriously considering THIS specifical scenario in which rayn can't be CC'd. Is it likely? Not really, but the fact that he's arguing it is townie IMO. Like why throw this much shade towards a blue, if you're scum!Xata?????? What is the end goal I am not getting lynched today 100%. If he is mafia he is gonna draw out the other PR and "cannot be blamed about it because he was right in that if it's all vanilla setup rayn can be mafia". | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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so stop df, don't draw out the other pr if you're town. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On March 22 2017 02:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: How is that so? You know Damdred's alignment? Well, by some simple logic. If we make the assumption that we're both town and competing on "rightness".... You were sure Malongo was scum. I was unsure. He wasn't. You're sure I'm scum. I'm not. I'm not sure you're scum. You're ??? (if not, then at least I'm closer to the truth again). Damdred is probably town. I'm probably right. Etc. etc. | ||
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darthfoley
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