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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 18:19 GMT
#1981
Xatalos is mafia. Calix is mafia.
Scared. So scared. Koshi knows this.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 18:21 GMT
#1982
Calix went from "fuck you i am town" to "hmmm okay".
I am doing koshi things rn btw.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:21 GMT
#1983
On March 22 2017 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is mafia. Calix is mafia.
Scared. So scared. Koshi knows this.


That's literally the worst guess I've seen all game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 21 2017 18:23 GMT
#1984
roflmao

Have you seen how a Xatalos/ Calix scum team actually plays?

Hint: It's not hardcore town-reading each other for the entire game because neither of us are that ballsy.

#WIFOM
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 18:24 GMT
#1985
On March 22 2017 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is mafia. Calix is mafia.
Scared. So scared. Koshi knows this.


That's literally the worst guess I've seen all game.

Except for me and malongo being mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:25 GMT
#1986
On March 22 2017 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is mafia. Calix is mafia.
Scared. So scared. Koshi knows this.


That's literally the worst guess I've seen all game.

Except for me and malongo being mafia.


It was better than me and Malongo at least.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 18:26 GMT
#1987
Koshi. Never impossible. Read filters. Ez possible.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 18:26 GMT
#1988
On March 22 2017 03:25 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is mafia. Calix is mafia.
Scared. So scared. Koshi knows this.


That's literally the worst guess I've seen all game.

Except for me and malongo being mafia.


It was better than me and Malongo at least.

Youre not blue so no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 18:27 GMT
#1989
You can keep on that deflecting xatalos. Idc
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:28 GMT
#1990
On March 22 2017 03:23 Calix wrote:
roflmao

Have you seen how a Xatalos/ Calix scum team actually plays?

Hint: It's not hardcore town-reading each other for the entire game because neither of us are that ballsy.

#WIFOM


Calix was also pretty fast to lose hope from what I remember. Here she seems to persevering through anything instead. Unless the scumteam is something crazy like Calix/Damdred/Koshi (lol), I don't see how she would be so motivated. If I'm right to any extent, the scumteam is already screwed soon.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 18:29 GMT
#1991
No.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:31 GMT
#1992
On March 22 2017 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No.


Yes.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 21 2017 18:32 GMT
#1993
On March 22 2017 03:28 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:23 Calix wrote:
roflmao

Have you seen how a Xatalos/ Calix scum team actually plays?

Hint: It's not hardcore town-reading each other for the entire game because neither of us are that ballsy.

#WIFOM


Calix was also pretty fast to lose hope from what I remember. Here she seems to persevering through anything instead. Unless the scumteam is something crazy like Calix/Damdred/Koshi (lol), I don't see how she would be so motivated. If I'm right to any extent, the scumteam is already screwed soon.


This is true but to be fair, you're probably not going to see me concede ever again...just because having two concedes on my scum record speaks incredibly poorly of my play and I have a bit more pride than that
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 18:32 GMT
#1994
We lynch xatalos if he flips town i am mafia and i am okay to be lynchdd.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 21 2017 18:33 GMT
#1995
On March 22 2017 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We lynch xatalos if he flips town i am mafia and i am okay to be lynchdd.


Why is Eden town?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2017 18:34 GMT
#1996
I am always right on this.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:34 GMT
#1997
On March 22 2017 03:32 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:28 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 03:23 Calix wrote:
roflmao

Have you seen how a Xatalos/ Calix scum team actually plays?

Hint: It's not hardcore town-reading each other for the entire game because neither of us are that ballsy.

#WIFOM


Calix was also pretty fast to lose hope from what I remember. Here she seems to persevering through anything instead. Unless the scumteam is something crazy like Calix/Damdred/Koshi (lol), I don't see how she would be so motivated. If I'm right to any extent, the scumteam is already screwed soon.


This is true but to be fair, you're probably not going to see me concede ever again...just because having two concedes on my scum record speaks incredibly poorly of my play and I have a bit more pride than that


I'll try to keep that in mind
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:34 GMT
#1998
On March 22 2017 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am never right on this.


FTFY
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 21 2017 18:35 GMT
#1999
On March 22 2017 00:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 07:15 Xatalos wrote:
Eden's case isn't actually horrible. It's true that Calix jumped to scumreading disfo a bit quickly/strongly and stuck with it until it no longer had steam. The reason for dropping it wasn't the best either... "at least he's doing something now" after listing various other reasons to scumread him, which weren't really addressed? Or were they somewhere?

I could be biased because Eden praised my townieness so greatly.

I'll be around closer to the deadline, but probably not very much for the next 15-20 hours or so.

Shows guilt

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 00:51 Xatalos wrote:
Foley seems OK'ish for now, I guess? He talks a lot in a focused manner (focused on doing useful things). Kind of jumps to quick snap judgments. His reads aren't too far from my own, just a couple of people in different places. Pretty... null / slight town lean? Not really the best D1 lynch IMO

Not sure if I like this read on Foley. Too generic. Should actually check if his reads really line up with those of darth.

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On March 19 2017 00:55 Xatalos wrote:
Eden seemed kind of OK? At least his Calix case actually made me reconsider Calix - no matter if it's right or wrong, at least he seems to do things and not just lurk by.

So much bad in this sentence.
1) Soft defense on Eden for no reason.
2) And who says "I considered scumreading Calix due to this case, it doesn't matter if the case is wrong"? He doesn't say it like that. But he acknowledges the fact it could very well be wrong.
3) So twice he hides behind Eden case to scumread Calix.... Feels like what he did to me and rayn.

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 01:04 Xatalos wrote:
On March 19 2017 00:54 Calix wrote:
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.


Yeah, about that.

On March 18 2017 07:15 Xatalos wrote:
Eden's case isn't actually horrible. It's true that Calix jumped to scumreading disfo a bit quickly/strongly and stuck with it until it no longer had steam. The reason for dropping it wasn't the best either... "at least he's doing something now" after listing various other reasons to scumread him, which weren't really addressed? Or were they somewhere?

I could be biased because Eden praised my townieness so greatly.

I'll be around closer to the deadline, but probably not very much for the next 15-20 hours or so.


I'm confused as to why you think it's suspect for me to have pushed disformation 'a bit quickly/ strongly and stuck with it' when you agreed with all of my points and spent more time talking about it than I did? My point here being that since you acted in a similar way, it doesn't make sense for you to then agree with Eden when he calls out the same behaviour in me.

And I still don't get how Eden calling you top town influences your response to his case.

In general, I think Eden has not been talked about as much as I was expecting him to be.

@Damdred, can you expand on your Eden read?


Well, it's not like I think you're sure scum like he implied or anything. Just that his reasoning kind of made sense to me. You did jump to scumread him very quickly, and a bit too strongly considering the reasoning (tone) maybe... and kind of left the wagon to roll until it died? And abandoned the wagon just like that even though your other points weren't really addressed, just the confusion part that I was mostly suspicious of? Dunno. I can see the scum motivation in that. But then again, you've been pretty active and contributing very, so I don't have any motivation to pursue the matter.

When confronted by Calix he is very apologetic. While he should try to figure out if the case is either correct or false.Xatalos, why feul the Eden case and incriminate Calix but then don't do anything yourself when Calix confronts you?

did you check eden's filter for eden on xatalos. it was also in my stuff on xata.
if eden is scum eden might have town spewed xata.
i agree that that the interactions from xatas side didnt look good though.
(bolded by the author)
On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden

I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting.

Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi.
Top scum is Calix.

Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.

I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read
2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads
3) "look how much work i already did"

if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place


I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway.

That's about all I got that I think matters right now.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 21 2017 18:36 GMT
#2000
Do you honestly believe I could be this active and do whatever I want this late to the game, rayn?

I don't think I've ever been even close to this active as scum, especially after D1. And certainly not in the way I've been here.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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