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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 18:38 GMT
#3381
On March 30 2017 03:03 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2017 09:43 Damdred wrote:
It's going pretty well, wife is a bit moody and still has a small amount of resentment to me. Seth sleeps lots, lilian cries a lot. So all in all pretty happy.

I'm a game related more what worries me is that koshi does this to a town disformation to distract from partner xata /amg and gets a free win from association.

I'm not sit if the wifom in that regard is enough though. I just don't want people to afk vote and not explore all options in that regard.

Like I want @disformation to explain hiseden progression and what he thinks of the people left alive and why because his scum pool is basically small. And explain why it's then

aight thats a bit of a hard one.
going to assume koshi flips scum (otherwise it doesnt matter since game over).
i feel like koshi tried to push everyone in the thread.

damdy being with koshi would explain why koshi scum read damdy super scum but voted someone else over damdy. but then there would be the mega bus and damdy seems to be the only one still thinking about the game.

xata + koshi + eden would make little sense given how d2 went. more likely scum!koshi tried to get town!xata lynched to by scum!eden one more day.

so could scum!amg and scum!koshi try to push xata together? mayhaps. though amg didnt seem very interested to actually push.

so unless something really insane went down d2 i dont see it being xata.
there are some points that could fit with damdy + koshi, but then there is the eden thing. so not very likely.
then we have amg, with whom i still have the same problems with as yesterday. plus he annoyed me earlier.

so. when/if i find the time ill look at damdy/koshi and amgs filters again.
not reading xatas filter. that thing is an aberration.


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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 18:41 GMT
#3382
I just can't see town Koshi. Maybe, maybe if he like came to the thread 5min before deadline and went full YOLO from there... But he came back about 1 second before deadline, just ninjavoted Tumble dead and left the thread again. That's only explainable if he was lurking the thread all that time and waiting his chance to act.

So down goes Koshi.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 18:44 GMT
#3383
Then we can think about disfo/AMG/Damdred. Tbh I'm not still 100% sure it's disfo, but everything kind of points to that from Koshi's actions to POE.

1) Koshi's actions - he went hard after AMG last day, kind of pushed Damdred too and only "stabbed" disfo without reasoning when it looked like disfo was doomed - but then he came back anyway and saved disfo when there was a chance - all I can think of is that disfo was the Roleblocker and was needed to deal with rayn last night - I guess we'll see about that after Koshi's flip

2) POE - kind of related to Koshi's actions, but Koshi makes by far the most sense as scum with disfo based on yesterday, and even before that, Damdred doesn't make much sense as scum with Eden
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 18:47 GMT
#3384
So if I had to bet 1000$, I'd say the last scum is disfo ten times out of ten.

Otherwise maybe AMG, but... Last day was pretty odd if Koshi's master plan as scum with AMG was to simply push AMG with all his might, and almost succeeding, until rayn counter-pushed strongly away from AMG.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 19:05 GMT
#3385
Also, if Koshi flips GF, then disfo is even more likely scum. If Koshi is RB, then a bit less likely.

(Because GF is really useless at this point whereas RB is/was crucial vs rayn)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 19:07 GMT
#3386
Although, naturally, the GF would still be useful vs rayn in the sense that he could carry the KP while RB blocks rayn. That way rayn can never block the KP.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 29 2017 21:56 GMT
#3387
Just a super weird set of kills n1 with koshi in the team.

The calix kill seems to be she was suspicious of koshi+General townreads.

Also strange no block on rayn n2.

Ritoky did have disf in his scum list though.

Calif hard town xata.

Not to much to go on in that regard.

The thing I hate most about the game is I am going to have to read xata and disf filter tommorow.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 21:58 GMT
#3388
On March 30 2017 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Just a super weird set of kills n1 with koshi in the team.

The calix kill seems to be she was suspicious of koshi+General townreads.

Also strange no block on rayn n2.

Ritoky did have disf in his scum list though.

Calif hard town xata.

Not to much to go on in that regard.

The thing I hate most about the game is I am going to have to read xata and disf filter tommorow.


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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 21:59 GMT
#3389
Yeah, a somewhat weird game overall, but I'd be really surprised if it was anything but Koshi+disfo at this point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 30 2017 08:38 GMT
#3390
On March 29 2017 17:12 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2017 10:08 AMG wrote:
And lastly, if disfo is not scum, why the sam-hill arent they in here defending themselves.

Its been long enough. The sound of silence is deafening.




would you kindly go fuck yourself?


Believe me, If i had the length, I just might.... and thered be nothing kind about it!



On a more serious note, reading through Xatas filter did not convince me to change my mind at all.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2017 12:51 GMT
#3391
##vote koshi

bye bye bois

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I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 30 2017 13:00 GMT
#3392
Simply the best way to scumclaim
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 30 2017 15:46 GMT
#3393
well that settles that.
fairly busy today, fortunate timing.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 30 2017 15:59 GMT
#3394
yeah it is.

I just still find it hard that scum!Koshi would out scum!Disformation in the way that he did by "saving" him over tumble.

It makes no sense to me especially since Koshi outside (a couple) people was pretty townread still.

So basically what happens is he pushes us to lylo, dies and then we have most of the game thinking his partner is disf and migth afk a lynch last day.

It just doesn't seem right. Though disf afking looks kinda bad to meh
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 30 2017 16:21 GMT
#3395
Otherwise I might well consider the theory of disf being "framed" by Koshi, but... Hm. Both Damdred/AMG have basically been cleared by Eden/Koshi to a major extent already. Whereas disfo fits well with Koshi/Eden. So...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
March 30 2017 20:14 GMT
#3396
D5 Vote Count


Koshi (4): Xatalos, AMG, Damdred, disformation
Damdred (1): Koshi

Not voting (0): -

Currently, Koshi is set to be lynched in (at Thursday, Mar 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).

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AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 30 2017 20:59 GMT
#3397
On March 31 2017 00:59 Damdred wrote:
yeah it is.

I just still find it hard that scum!Koshi would out scum!Disformation in the way that he did by "saving" him over tumble.

It makes no sense to me especially since Koshi outside (a couple) people was pretty townread still.

So basically what happens is he pushes us to lylo, dies and then we have most of the game thinking his partner is disf and migth afk a lynch last day.

It just doesn't seem right. Though disf afking looks kinda bad to meh


If koshi flips godfather, you can assume that disfo is the RB.

And then he had no choice but to switch to save him, otherwise be left completely at the mercy of rayns jail.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 30 2017 21:01 GMT
#3398
night 5

Koshi the mafia roleblocker is dead it is night i am at work and will update this last bit later
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 30 2017 21:49 GMT
#3399
Hm ok... So he was the RB after all. Makes it slightly possible that disfo could be town, but I still don't really see it...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 30 2017 21:56 GMT
#3400
I just don't get the play ya know? Tumble wasn't living the game out and koshi would have a better shot winning than disf.
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