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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:32 GMT
#3341
Well Koshi voted at the very last second, so there wasn't much anyone could possibly do.

If you're willing to put in the effort, go through Koshi's filter? I'm sure there are some gems in there.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:32 GMT
#3342
Gn now though!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 00:01 GMT
#3343
Sorry Rayn. Yes im Retarded. I backed my read when I should have followed you.


Koshi is only mafia now. Last second vote switch to save his teammate. That is the only thing that explains that action.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 00:11 GMT
#3344
Koshi is scum, Disfo is town, tumble town. He does a last second hammer vote to move from one townie to another, which he had just finished saying was "only one making sense" drawing heavy scrutiny from the thread and outing himself as scum for no potential benefit. Nope.

Koshi is scum, Disfo is scum, tumble town. He does a last second hammer vote onto tumble to save his teammate from being lynched and drag the game out another cycle. Winner.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 28 2017 10:42 GMT
#3345
I guess my last will is that....

Koshi 99% scum (ninja mislynch..)
Disfo 70% scum (saved by ninja mislynch - RB?)
AMG 20% scum (attacked me along with Koshi on D2, but pretty hard to believe scum with Koshi after yesterday)
Damdred 10% scum (nothing is impossible? well, unlikely scum with Eden)

AMG and Damdred are as high as they are only because of how they played against town's best interests yesterday, letting scum control the lynch instead of conftown rayn. So that makes it slightly more likely there could be scum within AMG/Damdred. Even so, disfo is the most likely partner for Koshi, and probably RB since he risked it all to deal with rayn tonight.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 28 2017 10:44 GMT
#3346
(I mean that wasn't really worth it for Koshi unless disfo is the RB. Since the RB is too important tonight vs rayn.)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 28 2017 15:50 GMT
#3347
Guys I am really sorry I did this....
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 28 2017 15:50 GMT
#3348
Without doubt the worst moment in my TL mafia career.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 28 2017 15:51 GMT
#3349
Anyway I will take all the blame. Sry.
I had a good night of sleep.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
March 28 2017 19:30 GMT
#3350
Please stop posting.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
March 28 2017 19:30 GMT
#3351
Day 5


raynpelikoneet, the Jailkeeper, has been found dead.

Day 5 has begun and will end in (at Thursday, Mar 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
March 28 2017 19:30 GMT
#3352
You may post.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 28 2017 19:31 GMT
#3353
What, the night ended so early >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 28 2017 19:32 GMT
#3354
And just when I checked the game for the first time since morning too..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 28 2017 19:32 GMT
#3355
Anyways, lynch Koshi. I can't see how he could be town after those EOD actions.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2017 21:07 GMT
#3356
Yeah only way to really get past today. But let's not just afk it ignore koshi I guess and search.

AMG, when the vote got so tight why didn't you go back to rayn? Or when he said he wasn't sswitching why did you stay?

Disformation and xata can you both explain your progression on your Eden read?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 21:40 GMT
#3357
On March 29 2017 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Yeah only way to really get past today. But let's not just afk it ignore koshi I guess and search.

AMG, when the vote got so tight why didn't you go back to rayn? Or when he said he wasn't sswitching why did you stay?

Disformation and xata can you both explain your progression on your Eden read?


I genuinely believed that disfo was going to flip town. Just because rayn was confirmed town, does not mean he was not wrong. In hindsight, yeah he was right.

I felt more strongly about tumble being scum than disinfo, but I really wanted Koshi to eat rope. So I settled for tumble since he was also a scum read.

Yep, I should have switched back and consolidated with Rayn, but I followed my gut and my read.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2017 22:02 GMT
#3358
On March 29 2017 06:40 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2017 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Yeah only way to really get past today. But let's not just afk it ignore koshi I guess and search.

AMG, when the vote got so tight why didn't you go back to rayn? Or when he said he wasn't sswitching why did you stay?

Disformation and xata can you both explain your progression on your Eden read?


I genuinely believed that disfo was going to flip town. Just because rayn was confirmed town, does not mean he was not wrong. In hindsight, yeah he was right.

I felt more strongly about tumble being scum than disinfo, but I really wanted Koshi to eat rope. So I settled for tumble since he was also a scum read.

Yep, I should have switched back and consolidated with Rayn, but I followed my gut and my read.


Could you explain your koshi read yesterday and the progression that led you to that conclussion? And talk me through the day we lynched onegu and your thought process?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 28 2017 22:18 GMT
#3359
On March 29 2017 07:02 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2017 06:40 AMG wrote:
On March 29 2017 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Yeah only way to really get past today. But let's not just afk it ignore koshi I guess and search.

AMG, when the vote got so tight why didn't you go back to rayn? Or when he said he wasn't sswitching why did you stay?

Disformation and xata can you both explain your progression on your Eden read?


I genuinely believed that disfo was going to flip town. Just because rayn was confirmed town, does not mean he was not wrong. In hindsight, yeah he was right.

I felt more strongly about tumble being scum than disinfo, but I really wanted Koshi to eat rope. So I settled for tumble since he was also a scum read.

Yep, I should have switched back and consolidated with Rayn, but I followed my gut and my read.


Could you explain your koshi read yesterday and the progression that led you to that conclussion? And talk me through the day we lynched onegu and your thought process?


Koshi had been flinging dirt at me all game:

On March 22 2017 20:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 20:43 AMG wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not Xatalos?

I guess i'm starting to buy into the inept scum team theory.

What is your proof? Except meta from a game you once played. Cuz that is fucking shit.


On March 22 2017 20:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 20:53 AMG wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:44 Koshi wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:43 AMG wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not Xatalos?

I guess i'm starting to buy into the inept scum team theory.

What is your proof? Except meta from a game you once played. Cuz that is fucking shit.


I'm not leaning on meta from a game played 2 years ago to justify my lack of scum reads.

I genuinely believed town was on the wrong track yesterday.

You forgot the proof.


I started to really reassess my reads on everyone after Onegu flipped town, something I wasnt exactly prepared for. He genuinely just did not give a shit about the game and I followed rayn onto him.

On March 26 2017 22:32 Koshi wrote:
I'll make a quick why is Koshi town post:

First of, I don't think I can be blamed at all for the Xatalos vote, at least not in a way it was to "save" Eden. I had Xata as town day 2 for good reasons first, I even made a town case, but then somebody asked me to read some more pages and I read 3 and I pointed out all reasons why he was mafia over town, and I think it is very obvious where I switched my read on Xatalos, but I stayed on Eden because he was very likely mafia.

Secondly, why am I so "wrong" this game? I am not really... I just have had 2 times 48 hours in which I couldn't play. So the Malongo lynch kinda happened in the first period, in which I just wanted to pressure the worst posting "afker", after that people jumped on that train. Looking at it, it was disformation and Damdred that made that lynch happen. Both possible mafia btw. The Eden lynch I never ever opposed. I just made myself look bad going to Xatalos. And then yesterday I was one of the few who actually tried to get Onegu play and make him do stuff. If it was only up to me, I might have not even lynched him and lynched AMG. But I couldn't not park my vote on a 100% Onegu lynch that was potentially mafia.

Which brings us to today. Pure gut.
##vote Damdred
When I think Damdred I think Eden cleared him. That's it. That's bad.


This post from Koshi is just foul. He says hes a) not to blame for voting Xalatos, even though he defended Xalatos as town D2, b) passes the buck for the Malongo vote, passing blame to disfo and yourself, calling you both mafia in the process. c) Says he tried to "get onegu to do stuff" yesterday, after labelling Onegu as cancer, then says he would have rather lynched me over Onegu but he never pushed for that at all until the next day.

He passes all responsibility of all of his actions onto everyone else around him calling them mafia for crap that he himself was doing. Then finally he dumps his vote on you for the justification of "Eden cleared him, and hes done nothing else", when hes been calling me scum for the last 12 hours of the day. Thats scum.

I stand by my choices this game, not many of them have been right, but I take responsibility for my reads, unlike Koshi this game.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 28 2017 22:38 GMT
#3360
On March 29 2017 07:18 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2017 07:02 Damdred wrote:
On March 29 2017 06:40 AMG wrote:
On March 29 2017 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Yeah only way to really get past today. But let's not just afk it ignore koshi I guess and search.

AMG, when the vote got so tight why didn't you go back to rayn? Or when he said he wasn't sswitching why did you stay?

Disformation and xata can you both explain your progression on your Eden read?


I genuinely believed that disfo was going to flip town. Just because rayn was confirmed town, does not mean he was not wrong. In hindsight, yeah he was right.

I felt more strongly about tumble being scum than disinfo, but I really wanted Koshi to eat rope. So I settled for tumble since he was also a scum read.

Yep, I should have switched back and consolidated with Rayn, but I followed my gut and my read.


Could you explain your koshi read yesterday and the progression that led you to that conclussion? And talk me through the day we lynched onegu and your thought process?


Koshi had been flinging dirt at me all game:

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 20:44 Koshi wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:43 AMG wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not Xatalos?

I guess i'm starting to buy into the inept scum team theory.

What is your proof? Except meta from a game you once played. Cuz that is fucking shit.


Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 20:55 Koshi wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:53 AMG wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:44 Koshi wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:43 AMG wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not Xatalos?

I guess i'm starting to buy into the inept scum team theory.

What is your proof? Except meta from a game you once played. Cuz that is fucking shit.


I'm not leaning on meta from a game played 2 years ago to justify my lack of scum reads.

I genuinely believed town was on the wrong track yesterday.

You forgot the proof.


I started to really reassess my reads on everyone after Onegu flipped town, something I wasnt exactly prepared for. He genuinely just did not give a shit about the game and I followed rayn onto him.

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 22:32 Koshi wrote:
I'll make a quick why is Koshi town post:

First of, I don't think I can be blamed at all for the Xatalos vote, at least not in a way it was to "save" Eden. I had Xata as town day 2 for good reasons first, I even made a town case, but then somebody asked me to read some more pages and I read 3 and I pointed out all reasons why he was mafia over town, and I think it is very obvious where I switched my read on Xatalos, but I stayed on Eden because he was very likely mafia.

Secondly, why am I so "wrong" this game? I am not really... I just have had 2 times 48 hours in which I couldn't play. So the Malongo lynch kinda happened in the first period, in which I just wanted to pressure the worst posting "afker", after that people jumped on that train. Looking at it, it was disformation and Damdred that made that lynch happen. Both possible mafia btw. The Eden lynch I never ever opposed. I just made myself look bad going to Xatalos. And then yesterday I was one of the few who actually tried to get Onegu play and make him do stuff. If it was only up to me, I might have not even lynched him and lynched AMG. But I couldn't not park my vote on a 100% Onegu lynch that was potentially mafia.

Which brings us to today. Pure gut.
##vote Damdred
When I think Damdred I think Eden cleared him. That's it. That's bad.


This post from Koshi is just foul. He says hes a) not to blame for voting Xalatos, even though he defended Xalatos as town D2, b) passes the buck for the Malongo vote, passing blame to disfo and yourself, calling you both mafia in the process. c) Says he tried to "get onegu to do stuff" yesterday, after labelling Onegu as cancer, then says he would have rather lynched me over Onegu but he never pushed for that at all until the next day.

He passes all responsibility of all of his actions onto everyone else around him calling them mafia for crap that he himself was doing. Then finally he dumps his vote on you for the justification of "Eden cleared him, and hes done nothing else", when hes been calling me scum for the last 12 hours of the day. Thats scum.

I stand by my choices this game, not many of them have been right, but I take responsibility for my reads, unlike Koshi this game.


I'm not super worried about being right or wrong as town are generally more wrong than right especially with afk people etc.

I'm more worried about thought progression leading into things.

Let's move away from koshi.

What do you think of disf? I know you have two ideas about why scum koshi does what he did. I think there is more to it than that, but just talk about him in General and how you got there.

Also could you talk on your progression on me? I know we argued at first when you entered game when I backed off you somewhat changed your tune. So go over that to now if you would?
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