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So I have a good D2 filter yet still somehow kinda scummy Tom koshi? Fair I guess if you believe I believed I was in such a bad spot that I decided to bus my AFK teammate it's plausible.
A thought I had: if we are on the cop + JK setup, a smart godfather would have done his/her best to get the lynch off of Eden. Doesn't have to worry about a cop check so there may be even more motivation to go after anything else possible throughout the day. In fact, a godfather play trying to draw a cop check on him/her would be super nuts. For this reason I would guess the theoretical GF would vote off Eden's wagon and the RB would probably buss. We should look carefully into people's off wagon Eden play today regardless
If we're in the vigi setup, my Master deduction doesn't really make sense so
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On March 22 2017 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 22:16 Xatalos wrote:
At least there was that game where I double-bussed with my scummate and you were SK. You then shot my surviving teammate thinking he was blue or something :D Yeah i don't do well figuring out all mafia in scumteams that play horribly.
I really don't understand your penchant for being a dick
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On March 22 2017 22:18 darthfoley wrote:
So I have a good D2 filter yet still somehow kinda scummy Tom koshi? Fair I guess if you believe I believed I was in such a bad spot that I decided to bus my AFK teammate it's plausible.
A thought I had: if we are on the cop + JK setup, a smart godfather would have done his/her best to get the lynch off of Eden. Doesn't have to worry about a cop check so there may be even more motivation to go after anything else possible throughout the day. In fact, a godfather play trying to draw a cop check on him/her would be super nuts. For this reason I would guess the theoretical GF would vote off Eden's wagon and the RB would probably buss. We should look carefully into people's off wagon Eden play today regardless
If we're in the vigi setup, my Master deduction doesn't really make sense so
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On March 22 2017 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am trying to think so hard why would anyone ever say this as town: Show nested quote +Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened This is a response to "why does ritoky die if Eden is town".
I've already explained why I said that, so read my filter and call me scum if you don't believe me
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On March 22 2017 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 22:44 darthfoley wrote:On March 22 2017 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am trying to think so hard why would anyone ever say this as town: Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened This is a response to "why does ritoky die if Eden is town". I've already explained why I said that, so read my filter and call me scum if you don't believe me At the time you wrote that did you think that's the case there? I really can't tell because whenever you talk about it you also talk about Eden being scum. So i have no clue where your head was at that time.
In retrospect my syntax of the sentence was poor. My main point was that regardless of Eden's alignment, I thought it was a pretty smart kill in terms of not giving the town a lot of information because all the scenarios I listed were plausible.
I still think it's unlikely the sole motive for killing ritoky was his Eden read. Seems way too clean
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Hmmm killing Calix instead of the blue role? I don't get the thinking behind that because as Xata said, the whole rayn mafia conspiracy will kinda sort itself out as the game progresses. Why keep him alive?
Also vigi claim if there's a vigi?
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On March 23 2017 07:01 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 06:48 disformation wrote:hmmm... who i am going to omgus at today then?  was gonna suggest we'd sort out oneg/amg/tw today. somewhat thrown off here [spoiler]##Vote disformation [/b]
Why?
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On March 23 2017 07:10 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 07:05 darthfoley wrote:
Hmmm killing Calix instead of the blue role? I don't get the thinking behind that because as Xata said, the whole rayn mafia conspiracy will kinda sort itself out as the game progresses. Why keep him alive?
Also vigi claim if there's a vigi? My theories are basically... 1) rayn was deemed too off-track and/or too influence-impaired to be a threat in the thread so Calix was a higher priority OR 2) the plan would be to frame him as scum D3/D4 - high risk, high reward OR 3) he's scum and playing a pretty ballsy / sacrificial role to help out the last scum, probably someone hidden in town ranks (this requires the vanilla setup)
I feel like the ritoky kill makes it less likely to be an all vinalla setup though. If that were the case it pretty sure it would've followed the "normal" types of N1 scum kills, no?
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Oh look, the sites back online!
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On March 23 2017 20:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No Koshi, AMG is not mafia.
Can you check what DF said about ritoky's case and how he ended up voting Eden? Is it in line with the answer to my question yesterday?
I'm sad that you don't trust me!
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On March 24 2017 07:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote:On March 23 2017 20:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No Koshi, AMG is not mafia.
Can you check what DF said about ritoky's case and how he ended up voting Eden? Is it in line with the answer to my question yesterday? I'm sad that you don't trust me! Give your checks pls.
Calix, and then rayn jailed me probably, so I couldn't give you townspeople less to work with
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yea i'm the cop with the least climactic claim ever woo
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On March 21 2017 13:52 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 08:22 AMG wrote:
Posting from work so Ill be in and out between phonecalls.
To everyone on the Eden wagon:
Unless you think the scum team is some combination of Myself, Tumble, Eden, Calix and Darthfoley.... then youre currently on a wagon with your scum reads. Have a good hard think about that. I'm sorta confused why you treat this like it's a fool proof point. Almost certainly if Eden is scum his partners are bussing him considering he's given them nothing to work with... maybe if he had come back and fought the good fight against the lynch, you'd have a point. Considering the fact that he's been MIA for like 36 hours and his activity came during low activity spurts, idk what you expect his theoretical partners to do? Other than defending Eden, can you expand on why you don't like Xatalos and anything additional on Damdred? Please elaborate on your fleshed out reads a bit more Cuz I like the way you're playing so far and you aren't being lazy, but I need to hear what you think about others. Specifically Koshi, TW, Calix
I was really hoping to whip this out in a claim war. Darn
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Before I get flamed, my reasoning for checking Calix was I was playing the game as if it was RB/Framer/Goon and I was still somewhat suspicious of calix eod1 but wanted her and her scummates to feel comfortable not framing her or roleblocking me, so I backed off in the second half of D1.
I'm so sad that I didn't get a check off last night. Darn you rayn
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On March 24 2017 09:25 AMG wrote:
Ok, so youre saying you checked Eden night 1?
No. I checked Calix N1 after the Malongo mislynch
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On March 24 2017 09:35 AMG wrote:
Eugh im not going to get hung up on this. I thought you were town enough before the check.
Next time check the person whos outright refusing to participate in the game please!
So I should've checked you? Would you have come back green because you're godfather or green because you're town?
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On March 24 2017 09:41 AMG wrote:
Specifically, I was referring to onegu.
Thought Xata or whoever made a good point and Onegu might've been godfather so I wasn't gonna check him N2. I think I had a good check for last night but it didn't go through
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I still think The Godfather was much more likely to try and save Eden than the RB.
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