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I'm a cop you idiot mafia
*Artanis[Xp] is helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards him or myself.
There are no coaches for this game. + Show Spoiler [Links to Day/Night posts go here] +
Introduction: Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.
The game is typically very active, so the thread will get big quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play. I will not compensate for ignorance.
Rules: Cheating: Cheating includes (but is not limited to): 1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information. 2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town. 3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role. 4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles. 5. Posting screenshots of your inbox. 6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host. 7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip. 8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts. 9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits. 10. Sharing accounts with other players. Only you may post on your account. 11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM. 12. Posting a false role PM phrased as if you received it from the host. You can still fake roleclaim, but you cannot make it look like you are posting a PM you received from the host. Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe.
Posting: Mod Font: This is mod font. It is reserved for moderators. Please do not use it.
Questions DIFFERENT FROM STANDARD At no point are you allowed to use the thread to communicate with the host. If I see a green text asking me something, I will modkill you without warning. You can also not say "I'm going to ask the mods this" or "I have asked them this" or anything like that. If I think your question warrants the attention of the entire thread, I will just make an announcement and not reveal who asked the question.
Note: It's okay to ask in green, and actually encouraged, before the game starts. The more we can clarify pre-game, the less questions will rise during the game.
Activity: You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled.
Smurfs: This game does not accept smurfs.
Spam: Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here. Do not talk about Starcraft II here. Play Mafia here. This also means you should condense your posts when possible.
Encryption: Don't do it.
Editing: Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a modkill and a 1-game ban. This is the one part of TL where it is okay to double post or even triple-post. While you should try to post as concisely as possible, post again if you have to edit anything.
Inappropriate posts: If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM the host, a co-host, or Blazinghand before involving the other TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can discuss the situation with other members of the TL staff.
Reporting posts: The report button is a nice feature for regular TL, but not for this forum. We prefer to deal with things in house if possible to avoid confusion among the TL staff. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, talk to the host, co-host, or Blazinghand before using your report button. Please do not use your report button for anything other than inappropriate posts which you feel are not being dealt with adequately.
Play to win. This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without getting banned. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis, but this is a very short game. Don't sign up if you can't commit.
You have been warned.
Out of thread communication: It is common for mafia (and town circles if PMs are allowed) to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Please be mindful that other players may be more tech savvy than you and they may attempt impersonate members of your team or attempt to infiltrate your chat. You use these media at your own risk.
Observers If you would like to observe this game, please PM me for access to the observer QuickTopic. If you receive access to the observer QuickTopic, do not discuss this game with the players until this game is over.
Voting rules: 1. Voting is done in this thread. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote. 2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance. 3. No conditional voting. 4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. You may vote for ##no lynch 5. Voting is not mandatory. You may abstain. 6. This game will use Instant Majority Lynch. I will try to post vote counts regularly. Once a person is hammered, please DO NOT POST until a host resolves the flip and the game enters night.
Signups: This game is open to anyone. Signups will remain open until 7 spots have been filled.
Game-specific rules: Modkills: This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, you will be punished beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to the ban list thread for questions about your punishment. Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.
Sitting Out: To sit out this game, you must do these two things during the signups of this game (assuming you are not currently sitting out a different game and the game in which you were banned has finished): 1. PM the host of this game, saying you are sitting out this game. 2. Post in the TL Mafia Ban List, saying that you are sitting out this game.
Note that because this is expected to be such a short game, I don't expect we will accept sitting out, but if you think you should be able to sit out this game, let me know and I'll think about it.
Replacements This game does not use replacements. Don't let your team down.
PMs PMs are not allowed in this game.
Time Cycle: This game will follow a 24 hour night/variable day cycle. For details see the game-specific rules below.
If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance!
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Game specific stuff:
This is an open setup. The following roles will be present in the game.
Cop Doctor Vanilla Town Vanilla Town Vanilla Town Mafia Goon Mafia Goon
Role PMs look like this (no colors).
Subject: Idiot Role
Welcome to Idiot Mafia. You are a Cop/Vanilla Town/Doctor/Mafia Goon
If it isn't obvious, Cops can investigate someone's alignment every night. There are no sanities. Doctors can protect one person from hit every night. The doctor cannot protect himself.
The game starts at night 0. The doctor CAN act during night 0. The doctor cannot protect himself. He may protect the same person in consecutive nights.
Between roles being sent out and the start of night 0, there will be 12 hours of strict silence. Roles will go out at 10:00 GMT (+00:00) and Night 0 will start at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
Days last until a strict majority vote to lynch someone (or no lynch), at which point the day ends immediately. Artanis and I will try to post votecounts regularly, but once a majority vote is cast, the day ends. If no majority is reached before 48 hours, the day will end in a no lynch. You cannot unvote after the lynch has been hammered, and please stop talking even if the hosts are not around. Night will be 24 hours from the nightpost.
There are minimal notifications this game. Neither the doctor, nor his target will be notified of a save.
Extras The previous game can be found here. Mafia won that game, so this game gets a slight buff to town in comparison. The next Idiot mafia game will continue this series, by making it increasingly town favoured if mafia continue to win, or adding a Mafia-favored mechanic if town win this game.
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On January 17 2017 02:44 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2017 02:20 Acrofales wrote: The doctor cannot protect himself. He may protect the same person in consecutive nights. I understand that you want to buff town but this looks like a Follow The Cop scenario in the making. Cop claims N0 and Doctor protects him while mafia tries to find the Doctor or get drawn into an instant counterclaim war (which essentially informs the Cop of 3/7 alignments by D1 if he isn't killed). I'm not entirely sure why the standard Cop, Doctor, 5 VTs vs Mafia Goon, Mafia Roleblocker, D1 start setup isn't being used. I feel like I am missing something. There is a bit more thought in it than that. It does require scum plays more proactively than usual to counteract the town roles. Hence why they have 12 hours to discuss what to do before the game starts.
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On January 17 2017 13:16 cakepie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2017 02:20 Acrofales wrote: Roles will go out at 11 AM and Night 0 will start at 11 PM. What timezone good sir CET.
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I thought of a roleblock. If town wins this one, that's something to consider next game. I also considered making the doctor a JK instead of a medic >:D
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On January 18 2017 02:39 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2017 02:13 Acrofales wrote: I thought of a roleblock. If town wins this one, that's something to consider next game. I also considered making the doctor a JK instead of a medic >:D JK acts as a Cop if a mafia dies No reason to not keep faction KP without an explicit delivery to make that not happen.
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On January 21 2017 00:22 Koshi wrote: What were you thinking?
N0: Cop claims N0. Doc saves him. Mafia can't counterclaim by setup. Which completely removes the idea behind this setup...Mafia needs to hit the 1/4 at random. D1: Town will chose to not lynch D1 so cop can get second check unless mafia hit the 1/4. Game is over if town ml D1... N1-D2: If mafia hit the protected townie town will no lynch D2 going for check number 3. If that is at all needed.
D2: possibly 2 checks, 2 blues while within 3 townies vs 2 mafia... After 96 hours doing absolutely nothing. What makes you think mafia can't counterclaim? A 1 for 1 trade is a pretty good deal for mafia (it means they win unless the doctor pulls off a save).
What makes you think the doctor can protect the right cop? Mafia can shoot the cop if the doctor guesses wrong. Or maybe the doctor pulls off a save by correctly guessing that mafia won't shoot the cop, and protects someone else.
The reason we don't have a silent night is also to allow the mafia to go blue hunting. By the way, we talked it over and silent nights make very little difference. It just makes N0 completely luck based, rather than an interesting addition to the game. No blue hunting is possible, and similarly, the cop check is completely uninformed.
But if you don't like the setup, don't play.
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On January 21 2017 00:38 Koshi wrote: That being said. I rarely read the OP so maybe I didn't read something. Can the cop check N0? Maybe you should read the OP
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On January 21 2017 00:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2017 00:33 Acrofales wrote: What makes you think the doctor can protect the right cop? Mafia can shoot the cop if the doctor guesses wrong. Or maybe the doctor pulls off a save by correctly guessing that mafia won't shoot the cop, and protects someone else.
The doc doesn't protect a cop when 2 cops claim. If mafia shoots the cop they simply trade 1 vs 1 and it is 4 vs 1 going in n1.... What is that? And depending on the fact mafia is able to hold their shot the doc can just toss a coin and protect a cop and if there is no nk town wins a ml and they know who the real cop is when the doc claims. Then the doc will be shot N1 but the cop has 2 checks. I won't theorycraft with you in here. Everybody can figure all this out. And because everybody can figure this out, scum has 12 hours to figure it out together before the game and craft a plan to deal with this. But the game is called town's revenge for a reason. It's supposed to be a bit harder for scum than the vanilla setup.
I don't think the balance is terrible, though. Scum has to be proactive, but has a pretty fair shot.
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On January 21 2017 01:01 Koshi wrote: nha when 2 cops claim town doc should just let the cop get shot. 4 vs 1 is pretty ok for town going into N1, then 3 vs 1 if doc can't save, if he can save ezgame. Did I see a /in?
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On January 27 2017 18:32 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2017 13:39 Damdred wrote: /in
I promise what drove me away won't draw me away this time.
Plus Palmar here, and he always drives me to greatness Send me your driver's license then you can't drive anywhere! =D That doesn't look like a /in, but I believe you meant to write that.
Come on, one more player! You know you want to!
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Can you link to the game you sat out? If you already sat it out, but there's some clerical error, I can let you sit out this game.
Assuming it ever gets the final player, of course, so /bump!
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Awesome. Sending out confirmation messages, if all is well, this starts tomorrow
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calix was just replaced out of the other ongoing game, so this game is delayed until either calix is back, or someone else joins in
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On January 31 2017 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2017 07:30 Acrofales wrote: calix was just replaced out of the other ongoing game, so this game is delayed until either calix is back, or someone else joins in Those shitty AFK scrubs man. Is that a /in?
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We're waiting for 1 last player. Then it starts.
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On February 05 2017 20:38 unholyflare wrote:
I think you meant /in?
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Excellent. We'll probably start tomorrow, but if everyone /confirms in 50min we can start today!
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Excellent. Everybody confirmed. Role PMs will go out tomorrow just before 10:00 GMT (+00:00). N0 will start at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
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On February 09 2017 11:04 ritoky wrote: does it really though? i mean we aren't allowed to talk for like 12 hrs so has the game really started at that point? No talking between 11AM and 11PM. After that, when N0 starts, talk all you like.
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Role PMs are going out. From now until the start of the game, nobody talk. Game will start in
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Oh, if anybody wants Obs QT, please send me a PM.
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The conquest of Liquiville by Chairman Ray and Koshi had spread terror throughout the land of Liquidia. With such a strong base, who could possibly stand up to this new terror?
Enter the staunch defenders of Liquistad. Our tale continues here...
It is now Night 0. You may talk, and in fact, are encouraged to do so. Action deadline is in .
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Day 1 The residents of Liquistad were calm. Despite all that had happened in Liquiville, surely the mafia would not have the nerve to attack the upstanding town of Liquistad. Little did they know that shit was already about to go down. The gangsters had been there all along biding their time, and now was the time to strike.
Boldly did they set out that night to murder every last citizen of Liquistad.
Zzzzz zzzzzz zzzzz
What?
Zzzz zzz zzz, a mosquito was headed straight for the gangsters!
Zzzz zzz zzz it buzzed, and bit the gangsters over and over. Panicked, the gangsters started wacking around themselves, but the Anopheles mosquito would not give up! Desperate, the gansters started shooting in an attempt to scare it off. A stray bullet splattered it all over the sidewalk.
Plasmodium Vivax promptly died as its mosquito host was gone. However, the gangsters' plot was thwarted and they fled back into the shadows.
Vivax, vanilla townie has died.
It is now Day 1. The day will end instantly when a majority is reached. You may vote for a player by typing ##vote: Qatol in this thread. You may also vote for no lynch (by typing ##vote: no lynch). If no consensus is reached in , the day will end without a lynch.
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votecount Palmar (2): LightningStrike, Rels No lynch (1): Palmar
Not voting (3): Damdred, Ritoky, Malongo
With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch. If no majority is reached, the day ends in with no lynch
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votecount Palmar (2): LightningStrike, Rels, Malongo No lynch (3): Palmar, Malongo, Damdred Malongo (0): Damdred
Not voting (3): Ritoky
With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch. If no majority is reached, the day ends in with no lynch
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Night 1
Everybody gathered in the square to figure out what the commotion was about. They stood aroud for a while... and then went home.
votecount Palmar (2): LightningStrike, Rels, Malongo No lynch (4): Palmar, Malongo, Damdred, Ritoky Malongo (0): Damdred
It is now Night 1. You may talk, and in fact, are encouraged to do so. Action deadline is in .
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There was a mistake in the voting rules. Because it's an instant majority vote, voting is not mandatory. I have changed it in the OP.
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Day 2
Liquistad wasn't even kept awake by the crickets, everybody slept like a baby on and woke up safely to face the challenges of another day!
It is now Day 2. The day will end instantly when a majority is reached. You may vote for a player by typing ##vote: Qatol in this thread. With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch. You may also vote for no lynch (by typing ##vote: no lynch). If no consensus is reached in , the day will end without a lynch.
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votecount Damdred (2): Palmar, ritoky
Not voting (4): Damdred, Rels, LightningStrike, Malongo
With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch. If no majority is reached, the day ends in with no lynch
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votecount Damdred (2): Palmar, ritoky Palmar (1): Rels LightningStrike (1): Malongo
Not voting (2): Damdred, LightningStrike
With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch. If no majority is reached, the day ends in with no lynch
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votecount Damdred (1): Palmar, ritoky Palmar (3): Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred LightningStrike (1): Malongo, Palmar
Not voting (1): Malongo
With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch. If no majority is reached, the day ends in with no lynch
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Wut. Why did this post? I wasn't done typing :O
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Given town's actions, there is no way scum can win, so we called it.
As some of you expected pre-game, a one-sided town sweep. However, I noticed a couple of things scum could have done differently.
I warned pre-game that scum would have to play proactively, and they didn't really. Palmar CC'ing was good, but checking Rels confirmed a townie off the bat. We discussed some other actions, and almost anything would have been better for scum than giving town a confirmed green on D1. Could have claimed Rels was scum. Could have claimed Vivax town. Or could have hard bussed Damdred from D1. I'm not saying these would've made the game a scum win, but they would have made life harder for town: having Malongo and Rels confirmed town on D2 made life impossible.
Town played well. Particularly Ritoky and Rels carried the game to an easy victory.
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Oooh look, it's nitpick Palmar's posts day. I got one that I commented to Artanis:
On February 14 2017 23:33 Palmar wrote: I know it's kind of pointless for me to try to convince you, specifically, Rels, as all I really need to do is convince ritoky (with malongo being right). But it just annoys me so much that I can't make everyone be right.
I want everyone to be right, I don't want a contested shit-game lynch. I want glorious stomping of the mafia team with every townie on the right side of history.
A town Palmar should know that he does need to convince Rels, however hard that may be. Rels was confirmed town, and the nature of this game is that barring a bus, all of town needs to vote together to kill scum. A few posts later he had corrected himself, and nobody in the game really picked up on it, but it was a small slip in an otherwise convincing lie. Too bad for him that the real cop was quite obviously town :p
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