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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 12 2017 19:55 GMT
#241
man did i need that sleep.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 12 2017 20:08 GMT
#242
lynch wrong no save: 6 (4:2) -> 5(3:2) -> 4(2:2) gg

lynch wrong save: 6 (4:2) -> 5(3:2) -> 5(3:2) lylo

lynch right no save: 6(4:2) -> 5(4:1) -> 4(3:1) -> 3(2:1) -> 2(1:1) gg

lynch right save: 6(4:2) -> 5(4:1) -> 5(4:1) -> etc

the only way to gain a ML is to lynch correctly today and get a save, otherwise lynching today essentially decides the game barring the save and is no different than lynching tomorrow. other than that i will be dead, we will have more cop checks, might have more discussion, and slightly more opp for saves. it's mostly better to just no lynch.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 12 2017 20:52 GMT
#243
i never got why in games where no lynching via lack of majority also has mandatory voting. not voting is tacitly voting for no-lynch.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 12 2017 20:53 GMT
#244
On February 13 2017 04:29 Malongo wrote:
From my point of view
1 of LS vs Palmar is mafia
1 of Damred vs ritoky is the other.


Rather than options, who do you believe is mafia?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 12 2017 21:25 GMT
#245
Just in my next post I unvote meh.
Rit I think we should no lynch, do you agree or disagree with me about ls v palmar?

##VOTE nolynch
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17993 Posts
February 12 2017 21:33 GMT
#246
votecount
Palmar (2): LightningStrike, Rels, Malongo
No lynch (3): Palmar, Malongo, Damdred
Malongo (0): Damdred

Not voting (3): Ritoky

With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch. If no majority is reached, the day ends in with no lynch
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 12 2017 21:38 GMT
#247
##vote: no lynch

thunderdome tomorrow i suppose.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17993 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-12 21:43:38
February 12 2017 21:42 GMT
#248
Night 1
[image loading]


Everybody gathered in the square to figure out what the commotion was about. They stood aroud for a while... and then went home.

votecount
Palmar (2): LightningStrike, Rels, Malongo
No lynch (4): Palmar, Malongo, Damdred, Ritoky
Malongo (0): Damdred



It is now Night 1. You may talk, and in fact, are encouraged to do so. Action deadline is in .
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 12 2017 21:42 GMT
#249
which part damdred?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 12 2017 21:43 GMT
#250
Do you agree with me that I is probably just Palmar as scum in that situation?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17993 Posts
February 12 2017 21:50 GMT
#251
There was a mistake in the voting rules. Because it's an instant majority vote, voting is not mandatory. I have changed it in the OP.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 12 2017 22:02 GMT
#252
On February 13 2017 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Do you agree with me that I is probably just Palmar as scum in that situation?


i don't know if i am exactly clear on the "situation". but to explain my pov, which clearly can't be yours cuz you'll never view yourself as possible mafia, the cops should both check you.

essentially i don't think ls + malongo is a possible team for a great many reasons, some of which are malongo's initial reaction to ls, malongo's decisive tone, and the fact that if he is mafia i felt he was coached to make that medic claim and i don't think ls does that coaching in the QT.

so that leaves LS's only partner as you, which if i recall correctly LS generally is more open to big plays when mafia with you since you tend to encourage him and stuff from what i remember of past games. so that team makes the most sense in my brain if LS is mafia.

as for palmar, i think he is the kind of person who would coach malongo to claim medic and shit in the thread to try to bait cc's. i also think since palmar doesn't know him he is the kind of mafia partner who could inspire palmar to not try as hard.

the only real reason i think palmar could be with you is a paranoia of mafia creating a false binary or dichotomy. where they try to render the game to black or white but hedge and place one on each side. the only 2 people i feel like made any effort to hedge both sides in that way are you and palmar.

i think a double check on you, since in my mind you're capable of being on both sides will essentially render the game into 2 teams of 2 since i sincerely doubt whichever of them is fake cop wants to have a run at me this game if i am still alive.

in terms of how i feel on the palmar/ls situation, i feel underwhelmed. palmar was clearly more prepared and knew what he was doing with his claim, but i feel he should be doing way more to project he is the cop especially when he knows who his sworn enemy is. with ls i just feel he lacks excitement. to me ls is someone who is like a kid in a candy shop when he finds something solid to hold onto, he gets super excited and has to show everything this cool thing he found. well he found mafia....like 100% confirmed mafia to him, so where is the exuberance. he posted a yyh video and then just faded away.

if i had to hazard a guess atm i would say palmar/malongo. palmar probably because my expectations are higher so my disappointment is respectively higher. my 1 real hesitation with malongo is that he actually still thinks i could somehow possible be mafia at this point which is like.....lol....but also kinda townish to me in a weird way.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
February 13 2017 01:51 GMT
#253
On February 13 2017 05:53 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2017 04:29 Malongo wrote:
From my point of view
1 of LS vs Palmar is mafia
1 of Damred vs ritoky is the other.


Rather than options, who do you believe is mafia?


I´m inclined to believe you are town and Damdred mafia based on posting. I don´t have a real case against him anyways other than playing an uncomitted low profile game. You have been way more proactive but that could be a good mafia play too. I´d say 60% 40% towards Damdred mafia.

The DT war is either a) Palmar doing a good town play and LS down a poor job at countering or B) Palmar doing an even better mafia play and LS countering poorly. I was inclined to side with Palmar from the start for the simple reason that most of the time I´d choose to lose a game against a player that made a good play rather than killing that same player and losing because of my own paranoid ways. My only real concern in DT wars was the DT check went on the same player and Palmar came back with a later check wich is really fishy for me. I expected a check on different players for more info. Last but not least is some sort of meta I can read were LS is unlikely to make this play as mafia and Palmar is likely to make his, but I´m unsure at this point. I´d say its a coinflip for me a the moment.


Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2017 14:44 GMT
#254
Gonna catch up on the game now.

I checked Rels because of this:

On February 10 2017 07:25 Rels wrote:
yeah a cc war already
if I had to decide with 0 info Palmar would be the one I lynch. More his type to do this kind of play than LS


n0 doesn't have a lot of information, so I decided to check a guy I both know is a good player and also gave himself an out to support LS, who is mafia (I know he's not confirmed scum to you all, but he is to me).

I actually was gonna check someone else but changed my mind because I felt like I was being paranoid. Not gonna reveal who until day 2. But you will understand my reasoning once I tell you.

With regards to the other mafia, I'm currently thinking it's Damdred. Like I have a reason to think everyone else might be town.

Rels is confirmed town (checked by me).
LS is confirmed mafia

Malongo could be smart mafia, but he basically has erred on my side throughout the game. It's a really weird play to do if he's mafia. I'll explain why:

If Malongo is mafia, and keeps siding with me, that means I have 2 people on my side in a 3v2 situation tomorrow. LS is obviously going to be on another side, so that means ritoky/rels/damdred (2/3 will be alive, assuming mafia doesn't shoot themselves and doesn't risk shooting me because we have a doctor alive).

So he's then either betting on 2 townies being wrong (siding with LS and lynching me) and winning the game outright, or he's betting on us lynching damdred, and then himself winning 2v1 lylo with 2/4 of me, ritoky, rels and damdred alive with him. And if they don't hit the doctor tonight, town auto wins.

So it makes no sense for mafia to side with town. This means that Malongo is likely to be town, because no mafia is going to take a 66% chance to just.... auto lose.

This leaves ritoky and damdred. I think it's quite clear atm that I would prefer lynching damdred of the two. ritoky's effort and activity level is way higher, and for now that's good enough for me.

I am 100% counting on doctor protection tonight. like please don't fuck this up mr. doctor. If I die, we can lose this game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2017 14:45 GMT
#255
Rels should do more with being confirmed. I'm blaming this on him if we lose.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2017 14:45 GMT
#256
Like 100% blaming on him.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2017 14:47 GMT
#257
Like if it isn't clear, I think the team is most likely:

LS + Damdred.

The far out options are LS + Malongo or LS + ritoky.

For LS + Malongo, I have to assume they can't do math and for LS + ritoky, the person who seems to be most interested in the game is mafia, which is always bad.

It's like a fairly straightforward read right now, but I'm gonna spend time reading ritoky and malongo again just to make sure. Also, unless we have a dumb shit for a doctor I'm going to have a red/green on one of rit/malongo/damdred tomorrow which will make things even easier.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2017 14:48 GMT
#258
to be honest I don't know how big of a stretch assuming malongo and ls can't do math is
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2017 14:57 GMT
#259
I'm just realizing this is an IML game.

Holy fucking shit lol. I was put at l-1 during the day by malongo...

And then Damdred made some complete bullshit post I think?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 13 2017 19:37 GMT
#260
So we're not talking?

no?

well...
Computer says mafia
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