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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2017 15:51 GMT
#161
what I'm trying to say is that if anything I think ritoky is more likely to be town based on that one post. But who knows
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2017 15:59 GMT
#162
Nice, new page good time to post optimal play guides:

@Doc: Do not claim your role until lylo (don't claim in mylo). I'm going to assume Malongo is a troll, not a retard. If he is genuinely doc and mafia believes him, he basically reduced our chance of winning from super likely to very unlikely.

Also @Doc, tread carefully with wifom. TL players are retarded and like to go for homeruns. I know it's going to be tempting to not protect me (or LS, if you're bad at life) tonight, but you really, really should protect me. It's optimal play for mafia to shoot into the 4 people that might be doc (aka, not me or the 2 scummers), because they should be assuming that I'm protected, which is the reason I claimed in the first place.

Yes, if you play optimally, your protection is "wasted" because mafia will shoot into town, BUT, I've seen mafia go for broke often in this setup (basically gamble the doc will try a big play, and just straight up shoot the cop). I am going to super mad if I die tonight.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2017 16:02 GMT
#163
Oh and one more thing, because it's optimal play for Doc to claim in lylo, let's say malongo tries to claim in lylo "I was actually doc, look I claimed on n0", then that claim will hold no additional value over someone who plays correctly until d2. Like if this is some ridiculous stunt by a mafia malongo, don't let it sway you. Fine if he is still unclaimed on d2 of course he is the doc, but mafia will usually, if not always, cc doc on day 2 if the doc is alive.

Essentially, treat his claim as if it never happened, from now and until the end of the game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2017 16:02 GMT
#164
what I'm saying is that if someone ccs malongo on day 2 for doc, malongo should have no advantage.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 10 2017 16:03 GMT
#165
@LS can you be around at the deadline?
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
February 10 2017 17:10 GMT
#166
On February 10 2017 22:29 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2017 16:01 Vivax wrote:
For now we leave the cop claims be and focus on finding the other scum. No I have no idea who it could be yet, nothing jumps at me particularly.

Palmar should both cop claims check the same guy or not?

Neither should claim who they're checking because mafia will prefer shooting the person checked if he is town. I kinda don't wanna explain more until after daybreak (you can remind me to explain on d1), but please just trust me that it's optimal to not announce my check.


But Malongo claimed doc apparently thinking that he can self heal, so who will mafia shoot? The player you both check or Malongo? Or is Malongo mafia? If he's VT the game is a mess.

On February 10 2017 22:31 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2017 16:17 Vivax wrote:
On February 10 2017 08:18 ritoky wrote:
from my perspective the cop check should always be on vivax or malongo.

palmar and ls have made themselves binary.
rels, palmar, and damdred all have a good read on me and 1 of them is guaranteed not mafia.
i have a soul read on damdred that iite well
s probably at least still partially functional.
i am confident i can read rels qu
so that leaves vivax and malongo.


Can you explain what you meant here?

How did you not understand that? Like what is the confusion that caused you to ask that question?

Reason I ask is that to me that looks 100% straightforward, feels like a pointless question.


Well he exempted himself from getting checked cause he argues others have a good read on him, but only one of them posted a read, and it lacks "what if one of them is mafia" perspective. He's like bitch please, all these townies can read me, why would I have to be checked, on the other hand he says that without even asking what their read of him is when it could make him figure out who of them is mafia.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 20:50 GMT
#167
On February 10 2017 21:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2017 20:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I know who I checking but wont reveal who it is until 1 minute before EoN.


Do you think its better to have both cop claims check same target or not?

I think it is cause with a fake result the checked target instantly knows who's the fake cop


Who would you have checked if you were to direct the cops to check the same person?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 21:02 GMT
#168
On February 11 2017 00:59 Palmar wrote:
Nice, new page good time to post optimal play guides:

@Doc: Do not claim your role until lylo (don't claim in mylo). I'm going to assume Malongo is a troll, not a retard. If he is genuinely doc and mafia believes him, he basically reduced our chance of winning from super likely to very unlikely.

Also @Doc, tread carefully with wifom. TL players are retarded and like to go for homeruns. I know it's going to be tempting to not protect me (or LS, if you're bad at life) tonight, but you really, really should protect me. It's optimal play for mafia to shoot into the 4 people that might be doc (aka, not me or the 2 scummers), because they should be assuming that I'm protected, which is the reason I claimed in the first place.

Yes, if you play optimally, your protection is "wasted" because mafia will shoot into town, BUT, I've seen mafia go for broke often in this setup (basically gamble the doc will try a big play, and just straight up shoot the cop). I am going to super mad if I die tonight.


I think there's an argument to be made that once the cop is CC'd protecting either is not the optimal play because mafia shooting either results in a 1 for 1 trade of cop for mafia which in this setup seems fine for town. It also keeps the doctor save "live" in the event that mafia doesn't want to shoot into the cop and trade, which optimally they won't do because it is a net loss.

But I suppose arguing optimal play semantics is not really for this thread.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
February 10 2017 21:03 GMT
#169
On February 11 2017 05:50 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2017 21:00 Vivax wrote:
On February 10 2017 20:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I know who I checking but wont reveal who it is until 1 minute before EoN.


Do you think its better to have both cop claims check same target or not?

I think it is cause with a fake result the checked target instantly knows who's the fake cop


Who would you have checked if you were to direct the cops to check the same person?


Rels.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 21:04 GMT
#170
On February 11 2017 06:03 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 05:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 10 2017 21:00 Vivax wrote:
On February 10 2017 20:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I know who I checking but wont reveal who it is until 1 minute before EoN.


Do you think its better to have both cop claims check same target or not?

I think it is cause with a fake result the checked target instantly knows who's the fake cop


Who would you have checked if you were to direct the cops to check the same person?


Rels.


underwhelming/inactivity or a reason?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
February 10 2017 21:19 GMT
#171
On February 11 2017 06:04 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 06:03 Vivax wrote:
On February 11 2017 05:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 10 2017 21:00 Vivax wrote:
On February 10 2017 20:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I know who I checking but wont reveal who it is until 1 minute before EoN.


Do you think its better to have both cop claims check same target or not?

I think it is cause with a fake result the checked target instantly knows who's the fake cop


Who would you have checked if you were to direct the cops to check the same person?


Rels.


underwhelming/inactivity or a reason?


His three posts only offer a read on the cop claims. The first reason is wifom (Palmar would go for this kind of play). I know Palmar would do it as both alignments. Overall I think he exudates too much early confidence on who is what. If I compare it to myself, I'm happy just leaving the "cops" be as they are for now and see what they cook up further.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
February 10 2017 21:21 GMT
#172
And I'm aware Damdred also went for the LS TR, but still posted more stuff, having a Rels cop check take priority in my opinion.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 21:57 GMT
#173
was nice playing with you guys for a little bit again. i fully expect to die in 3 mins.

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 10 2017 21:59 GMT
#174
I am checking Rels I had sent the check way before Vivax even mention to check him.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18240 Posts
February 10 2017 22:00 GMT
#175
Day 1
[image loading]

The residents of Liquistad were calm. Despite all that had happened in Liquiville, surely the mafia would not have the nerve to attack the upstanding town of Liquistad. Little did they know that shit was already about to go down. The gangsters had been there all along biding their time, and now was the time to strike.

Boldly did they set out that night to murder every last citizen of Liquistad.

Zzzzz zzzzzz zzzzz

What?

Zzzz zzz zzz, a mosquito was headed straight for the gangsters!

Zzzz zzz zzz it buzzed, and bit the gangsters over and over. Panicked, the gangsters started wacking around themselves, but the Anopheles mosquito would not give up! Desperate, the gansters started shooting in an attempt to scare it off. A stray bullet splattered it all over the sidewalk.

Plasmodium Vivax promptly died as its mosquito host was gone. However, the gangsters' plot was thwarted and they fled back into the shadows.

Vivax, vanilla townie has died.


It is now Day 1. The day will end instantly when a majority is reached. You may vote for a player by typing ##vote: Qatol in this thread. You may also vote for no lynch (by typing ##vote: no lynch). If no consensus is reached in , the day will end without a lynch.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 10 2017 22:02 GMT
#176
Okay Rels was green checked guys. The reason I was checking him was in case he was trying to pocket me earlier with his comment.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 10 2017 22:18 GMT
#177
##vote: Palmar Mafia because I the real cop and he should be lynched.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 10 2017 22:31 GMT
#178
Does it bother anyone that the claimed medic is alive as well?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 22:45 GMT
#179
On February 11 2017 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
##vote: Palmar Mafia because I the real cop and he should be lynched.


So convince. Considering you posted a YYH vid about how you were gonna wreck Palmar, you really have done nothing since then of any form of usefulness.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 22:47 GMT
#180
On February 11 2017 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Does it bother anyone that the claimed medic is alive as well?


So you believe his claim. Why?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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