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On February 10 2017 08:18 ritoky wrote:
from my perspective the cop check should always be on vivax or malongo.
palmar and ls have made themselves binary.
rels, palmar, and damdred all have a good read on me and 1 of them is guaranteed not mafia.
i have a soul read on damdred that is probably at least still partially functional.
i am confident i can read rels quite well
so that leaves vivax and malongo.
Can you explain what you meant here?
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On February 10 2017 16:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 08:18 ritoky wrote:
from my perspective the cop check should always be on vivax or malongo.
palmar and ls have made themselves binary.
rels, palmar, and damdred all have a good read on me and 1 of them is guaranteed not mafia.
i have a soul read on damdred that is probably at least still partially functional.
i am confident i can read rels quite well
so that leaves vivax and malongo. Can you explain what you meant here?
that i am generally not well read, but this game has some of the people with more reliable reads on me in it. thus it probably diminishes the value of a cop check on me.
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On February 10 2017 16:09 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 16:00 Malongo wrote:On February 10 2017 15:44 ritoky wrote:On February 10 2017 15:17 Malongo wrote:
I mean the whole idea about first day claiming from palmar is getting a medic on him and making mafia gamble.
On the contrary, if he is mafia he is effectively reducing the game to a 1v1 between him and the cop assuming no saves; and essentially laying down a gauntlet saying "I will outplay you, force town to make the wrong call and lose instantly". The play he made cuts both ways. It places himself in a fulcrum position, which I think tickles what ego Palmar has in just the right spot. The problem is Palmer being mafia makes LS the real DT or green wich makes 0 sense to me given his posting. What specific posts from LS make you significantly convinced?
On February 10 2017 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
With that being said idk if it makes palmar scum or trying to bait a shot on him instead the real cop (me).
On February 10 2017 07:27 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 07:25 Rels wrote:
yeah a cc war already
if I had to decide with 0 info Palmar would be the one I lynch. More his type to do this kind of play than LS Well it night 0 I going to check him.
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On February 10 2017 16:43 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 16:09 ritoky wrote:On February 10 2017 16:00 Malongo wrote:On February 10 2017 15:44 ritoky wrote:On February 10 2017 15:17 Malongo wrote:
I mean the whole idea about first day claiming from palmar is getting a medic on him and making mafia gamble.
On the contrary, if he is mafia he is effectively reducing the game to a 1v1 between him and the cop assuming no saves; and essentially laying down a gauntlet saying "I will outplay you, force town to make the wrong call and lose instantly". The play he made cuts both ways. It places himself in a fulcrum position, which I think tickles what ego Palmar has in just the right spot. The problem is Palmer being mafia makes LS the real DT or green wich makes 0 sense to me given his posting. What specific posts from LS make you significantly convinced? Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
With that being said idk if it makes palmar scum or trying to bait a shot on him instead the real cop (me). Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 07:27 LightningStrike wrote:On February 10 2017 07:25 Rels wrote:
yeah a cc war already
if I had to decide with 0 info Palmar would be the one I lynch. More his type to do this kind of play than LS Well it night 0 I going to check him.
Regarding the second post, what's the reason behind it making him mafia? Wrong/dumb = mafia?
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On February 10 2017 16:29 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 16:17 Vivax wrote:On February 10 2017 08:18 ritoky wrote:
from my perspective the cop check should always be on vivax or malongo.
palmar and ls have made themselves binary.
rels, palmar, and damdred all have a good read on me and 1 of them is guaranteed not mafia.
i have a soul read on damdred that is probably at least still partially functional.
i am confident i can read rels quite well
so that leaves vivax and malongo. Can you explain what you meant here? that i am generally not well read, but this game has some of the people with more reliable reads on me in it. thus it probably diminishes the value of a cop check on me.
But only Damdred posted a read on you so far so isn't it a bit premature to exclude yourself from a check without asking the other two for a read?
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On February 10 2017 18:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 16:29 ritoky wrote:On February 10 2017 16:17 Vivax wrote:On February 10 2017 08:18 ritoky wrote:
from my perspective the cop check should always be on vivax or malongo.
palmar and ls have made themselves binary.
rels, palmar, and damdred all have a good read on me and 1 of them is guaranteed not mafia.
i have a soul read on damdred that is probably at least still partially functional.
i am confident i can read rels quite well
so that leaves vivax and malongo. Can you explain what you meant here? that i am generally not well read, but this game has some of the people with more reliable reads on me in it. thus it probably diminishes the value of a cop check on me. But only Damdred posted a read on you so far so isn't it a bit premature to exclude yourself from a check without asking the other two for a read?
not talking about their specific read this game, speaking about historical accuracy.
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On February 10 2017 15:17 Malongo wrote:
Well that escalated quickly.
I say Palmar´s plan first day is good enough, we can´t risk 50/50 on a DT and we don´t really have much of a choice outside Palmar/LS.
I think LS is mafia cc poorly, his posting does´t really make sense if he was a green trying to get a hit. I mean the whole idea about first day claiming from palmar is getting a medic on him and making mafia gamble.
Rels looks green, already pointed out by ritoky.
If i was the DT id be checking Damred.
Just to let you know, I am the medic and Palmar is getting protected tonight.
I am claiming because its unlikely mafia will gamble a hit on me now that
If I was scum why would I risk counter claiming Palmar at all considering it is terrible for scum to go for the 1 for 1 trade which favors town?
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On February 10 2017 20:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 15:17 Malongo wrote:
Well that escalated quickly.
I say Palmar´s plan first day is good enough, we can´t risk 50/50 on a DT and we don´t really have much of a choice outside Palmar/LS.
I think LS is mafia cc poorly, his posting does´t really make sense if he was a green trying to get a hit. I mean the whole idea about first day claiming from palmar is getting a medic on him and making mafia gamble.
Rels looks green, already pointed out by ritoky.
If i was the DT id be checking Damred.
Just to let you know, I am the medic and Palmar is getting protected tonight.
I am claiming because its unlikely mafia will gamble a hit on me now that
If I was scum why would I risk counter claiming Palmar at all considering it is terrible for scum to go for the 1 for 1 trade which favors town?
Palmar tutored mafia why they have to CC, that's the why. If mafia don't CC you have the doc on the cop instantly, 2 mafia claiming VT, and 3 actual VTs
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On February 10 2017 20:19 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 20:13 LightningStrike wrote:On February 10 2017 15:17 Malongo wrote:
Well that escalated quickly.
I say Palmar´s plan first day is good enough, we can´t risk 50/50 on a DT and we don´t really have much of a choice outside Palmar/LS.
I think LS is mafia cc poorly, his posting does´t really make sense if he was a green trying to get a hit. I mean the whole idea about first day claiming from palmar is getting a medic on him and making mafia gamble.
Rels looks green, already pointed out by ritoky.
If i was the DT id be checking Damred.
Just to let you know, I am the medic and Palmar is getting protected tonight.
I am claiming because its unlikely mafia will gamble a hit on me now that
If I was scum why would I risk counter claiming Palmar at all considering it is terrible for scum to go for the 1 for 1 trade which favors town? Palmar tutored mafia why they have to CC, that's the why. If mafia don't CC you have the doc on the cop instantly, 2 mafia claiming VT, and 3 actual VTs
I didn't read that post before I CC'd O_o
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Anyways I know who I checking but wont reveal who it is until 1 minute before EoN.
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On February 10 2017 20:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I know who I checking but wont reveal who it is until 1 minute before EoN.
Do you think its better to have both cop claims check same target or not?
I think it is cause with a fake result the checked target instantly knows who's the fake cop
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On February 10 2017 08:46 Damdred wrote:
Let me say I believe ls here, just because I don't think he has the balls (no offense to ls) to go for the cc in Palmar like that.
This is the worst train of thought.
If mafia doesn't CC me they lose, instantly. It's nothing to do with balls, you just counterclaim, because it's what you have to do.
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On February 10 2017 08:57 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
But ls (I'm sorry about last game), why the hesitation about saying palmar 100% scum and hedging like you were?
I have an opinion based on experience but I want to see what ls says. Because sometimes there is pants on head town like sicklucker who would pull what palmar did as town and so I engaged with otheres and concluded that he's confirmed scum unless he's sicklucker.
I always play 100% logically except when I don't and you know that 
aka, "checking if palmar is pants on head retarded" is, by definition, a pointless effort
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On February 10 2017 09:31 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 09:16 Damdred wrote:On February 10 2017 09:08 LightningStrike wrote:On February 10 2017 09:04 Damdred wrote:On February 10 2017 08:59 LightningStrike wrote:
I am starting to think Damdred is town here so at least that is a good start for me. Rip means scrum will shoot me because of this. As for your other post ls I kinda believe you and seems more like your town mindset. As for my thing well it's just a story about how we played something like this on voice and . Palmar did the same thing to me as it looks like he is doing here. Do yeah plus what hi said earlier. I sort of remember him doing it on voice but it been a long time plus I am a bit tired still. Can you explain the bolded a little bit better because I can't decipher what you trying to say there :\ Rit basically answered, earlier I said I think this is out of your play depth currently. (Basically) @rit you did say that in another game. But do you really think that ls is laying here? Is it just a feeling of something from his posts. for palmar it's in his wheelhouse as a considered play as both cop or mafia, for LS i think it's in his wheelhouse to snap make a yolo reactive play.
It's not just in my wheelhouse. If I had rolled mafia I would have done exactly the same (well I would probably have had my partner make the cc because I'm terrified of the "lynch palmar" bias but alas). But the outcome would be the same. If I'm on the mafia team, mafia does exactly what LS did.
Like it's 100% correct play as cop to claim, so I did it.
It's also 100% correct play as mafia to counterclaim, so I would have.
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On February 10 2017 15:17 Malongo wrote:
I am claiming because its unlikely mafia will gamble a hit on me now that
You're a dumbass
please don't do that.
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On February 10 2017 16:01 Vivax wrote:
For now we leave the cop claims be and focus on finding the other scum. No I have no idea who it could be yet, nothing jumps at me particularly.
Palmar should both cop claims check the same guy or not?
Neither should claim who they're checking because mafia will prefer shooting the person checked if he is town. I kinda don't wanna explain more until after daybreak (you can remind me to explain on d1), but please just trust me that it's optimal to not announce my check.
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On February 10 2017 16:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 08:18 ritoky wrote:
from my perspective the cop check should always be on vivax or malongo.
palmar and ls have made themselves binary.
rels, palmar, and damdred all have a good read on me and 1 of them is guaranteed not mafia.
i have a soul read on damdred that is probably at least still partially functional.
i am confident i can read rels quite well
so that leaves vivax and malongo. Can you explain what you meant here?
How did you not understand that? Like what is the confusion that caused you to ask that question?
Reason I ask is that to me that looks 100% straightforward, feels like a pointless question.
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On February 10 2017 20:34 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 20:19 Vivax wrote:On February 10 2017 20:13 LightningStrike wrote:On February 10 2017 15:17 Malongo wrote:
Well that escalated quickly.
I say Palmar´s plan first day is good enough, we can´t risk 50/50 on a DT and we don´t really have much of a choice outside Palmar/LS.
I think LS is mafia cc poorly, his posting does´t really make sense if he was a green trying to get a hit. I mean the whole idea about first day claiming from palmar is getting a medic on him and making mafia gamble.
Rels looks green, already pointed out by ritoky.
If i was the DT id be checking Damred.
Just to let you know, I am the medic and Palmar is getting protected tonight.
I am claiming because its unlikely mafia will gamble a hit on me now that
If I was scum why would I risk counter claiming Palmar at all considering it is terrible for scum to go for the 1 for 1 trade which favors town? Palmar tutored mafia why they have to CC, that's the why. If mafia don't CC you have the doc on the cop instantly, 2 mafia claiming VT, and 3 actual VTs I didn't read that post before I CC'd O_o
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On February 10 2017 08:18 ritoky wrote:
from my perspective the cop check should always be on vivax or malongo.
palmar and ls have made themselves binary.
rels, palmar, and damdred all have a good read on me and 1 of them is guaranteed not mafia.
i have a soul read on damdred that is probably at least still partially functional.
i am confident i can read rels quite well
so that leaves vivax and malongo.
This does feel like a fairly random post, although I could see mafia being too self-aware to literally suggest that they're not checked. The worst thing that can happen to mafia is that I check the non-cc partner tonight.
Like it's not a good post by any stretch of the imagination, but does mafia have the balls to straight up say "yo, don't check me palmar".
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