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On January 27 2017 23:56 RtaniSoul wrote: mrt erased my post @.@
short version:
silverika lex has a townread on for the way he's responded to a few people, including sl (i'm deferring to him on that cause no real opinion), and i like super, so suggestion is:
RtaniSoul, silverika, Super
lex thought including tumble might give more insight on tumble's nominations (yes, that was the great townie test >>) idk personally how valuable a strat that is. my experience with resistance is pretty slight. but assuming he's right on silverika it would probably tell us something
random other bit, lex thinks sl may be town for *bad* reasons lol ^^ so he's in our slight column somewhere if we were keeping better track >>
I like the above list and would easily approve it. Super is a townread and RtaniSoul is the leader, we know we are town so this give good info.
~SilverWolf77
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On January 27 2017 22:19 Calix wrote: For the record, I don't understand what the problem is with the SL/ Swika discussion so if SW could explain that then I'd appreciate it.
The only thing that stuck out to me about SL on a skim-read was that he was trying to 'confirm' himself with that dumb tell thing.
I just re-read this and it was a misunderstanding between rejecting a mission and voting to sabatoge. I thought he was telling people not to reject missions but he was saying don't sabatoge. So no big deal and I'm dropping it now as it was just a misunderstanding.
~SivlerWolf77
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thata amzing moment when you go to the basement and forget the password to the hydra
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On January 28 2017 03:17 Vivax wrote: Fyi I'm rejecting cause I don't trust RtaniSoul yet.
Superbia Silverika seems fine to me though.
could you elaborate on all of these?
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On January 28 2017 03:22 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 02:25 RtaniSoul wrote: Well, as I see no particular reason to change it, I'll go with this. I'll be around tonight though as I'm stuck in with a swollen knee, so feel free to still discuss/suggest/what have you.
##nominate: RtaniSoul, Silverika, Superbia Good choice, i will vote for this team!
why? what about it makes you town read the entire group?
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On January 28 2017 08:35 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 00:42 Silverika wrote:On January 27 2017 23:56 RtaniSoul wrote: mrt erased my post @.@
short version:
silverika lex has a townread on for the way he's responded to a few people, including sl (i'm deferring to him on that cause no real opinion), and i like super, so suggestion is:
RtaniSoul, silverika, Super
lex thought including tumble might give more insight on tumble's nominations (yes, that was the great townie test >>) idk personally how valuable a strat that is. my experience with resistance is pretty slight. but assuming he's right on silverika it would probably tell us something
random other bit, lex thinks sl may be town for *bad* reasons lol ^^ so he's in our slight column somewhere if we were keeping better track >> I like the above list and would easily approve it. Super is a townread and RtaniSoul is the leader, we know we are town so this give good info. ~SilverWolf77 not liking this justification at all. would've preferred a simple "I'm on it sooooo" to trusting rtani for being the leader. does not feel logicked out but does act like it was
would it have been better if he jsut RNGed it?
he put a town read of ours and us on the mission. if the mission were to be sabotaged we would instantly think its the leader who did so its basically win-win FOPOV
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On January 28 2017 09:19 Grackaroni wrote:I'm going to explain why before I get hit with the burden of proof. 
*insert post about burden of proof here*
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On January 29 2017 01:37 Tumblewood wrote: ugh I don't TR anybody on this team (coming the closest on rtani but I really can't read rsoul). gonna reject and try again until further notice
I actually don't like how all you've done is come into this thread and cast shade on everyone on the first mission. I consider this scummy because it's exactly what I did in my last game of this as scum because the first team was all town. You remind me of that plus the fact that you are over justifying your intent to reject it. You don't really have reasoning except you don't townread anyone but you also don't have reasons to scumread them. This is just wishy washy and scummy because like I said, if this is an all town team, you don't want it.
Even if the mission was sabotaged, we would get information from it but if we don't send it, where are we gonna be going forward? I would like to have some information, even if there is scum sent. If the mission passes, we just resend the same team and a mutually agree'd 4th member and continue from there.
How else do you expect to get information regarding who is scum and town since we can't lynch and discussion only gets us so far without mission passed or sabatoged. We could get some from approved or rejected if everyone wants to come in here and say if they approved or rejected and why but that really isn't as concrete as a sabatoged or passed mission would be.
~SilverWolf77
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as for the town read on superbia, start from 125 and onward. he has been aggressive to start with and pushing early reads. not only that the reads and reasons that superbia has given match up with our own. not only that hes been pushing cut and dry ideas that will solve the game,
i mean ive been disuccing with SW and we are already ready to call the scum team: calix (HTS)/TW/sharkie (CH)
CH was already a scum read from early on and shrakie has done nothing to improve it
calix has been overly passive already and HTS has not done much before that. yes its her first game of resistance but i would be expecting a lot more from her already.
TW is explained via silverwolfs post above.
that being said, this is my day off so i will be spending it with silverwolf and might not be around
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First of all, I'm pretty disappointed almost everyone rejected the mission if you guys thought it was all town. If you advocating rejecting the next one as well, we might as well hand it over to scum because after so many rejections, they win and we will just be sitting here chasing our tails with nothing to go on. Then I will feel like I completely wasted my damn time signing up for this. I mean WTF? Even two of the people on it and the team leader said no? Completely ridiculous.
I will be rejecting Tumblewood on the team. I think they are scum casting shade on everyone with the stupid excuse of "well, I don't townread them" That is such a scummy load of BS. If Tumblewood puts the same team with himself, I might consider it because it will confirm him scum unless he passes to try to fool us but I feel like it will be sabotaged and with the first mission rejected, on top of a sabotage, I will be super annoyed.
This isn't how my last game went but maybe you guys have a better way since scum won the one I played. I don't know but can someone explain how rejecting missions gets us anywhere? We can't lynch. We can keep people off missions. But we still need to have 3 successful ones. How is that gonna happen exactly?
~SilverWolf77
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On January 29 2017 08:17 Superbia wrote: Yeah I'm like 95% that team was all town.
Yet you voted against it. Explain that logic to me.
~SilverWolf77
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On January 29 2017 08:19 Superbia wrote: Sharkie just seems like mafia agreeing with the team because its likely right and attempting to get get credits for that. Something like that. Could be completely wrong, but hey. :D
I felt that the quick agreement on the team with no discussion was scum knowing it was town and wanting the cred from it.
~SilverWolf77
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Also, I feel the team was town due to the very high number of rejections. Scum will reject the team if it's all town and they will all vote for it if there is even one scum on it. The fact only two said yes tells me that was an all town team.
~SilverWolf77
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So I strongly advocate TW puts that whole first team on with him and if he doesn't he gives a DAMN GOOD reason not to.
~SilverWolf77
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On January 29 2017 08:47 sharkie wrote: How can anyone take cred for a successful team? That sounds so illogical for me...
No, you came into the thread agreeing without saying much else. It seems if you are gonna so strongly advocate for the team, you'd at least give reasons or at least do something to ascertain if you are right.
~SilverWolf77
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On January 29 2017 08:48 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2017 08:46 Silverika wrote: Also, I feel the team was town due to the very high number of rejections. Scum will reject the team if it's all town and they will all vote for it if there is even one scum on it. The fact only two said yes tells me that was an all town team.
~SilverWolf77 Votes at this point are stilll a bit too much WIFOM imo. It leans to the fact that it is the right team. I just feel pretty good about who the scum are. You had a very similar list (I think pretty much the same).
TW, Calix, sharkie at this point. I'm willing to reconsider based on new evidence but that's where we are at as of right now.
~SilverWolf77
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On January 29 2017 09:06 Grackaroni wrote: Why is everyone so anti-Calix?
I don't think her inactivity is alignment indicative. She didn't even make the vote.
I would say the missing of the vote does not lead to alignment.
Its more of her entracne and what she has posted that makes us weary. She may genuinly have RL but anyone here should know by now when shes town shes invested and pushing. her entrance felt more "meh i dont care"
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On January 29 2017 13:27 sicklucker wrote: Wait Silverika voted yes. the same person who reminded me its the optimal strategy to never vote yes on the first two votes. nice
we did? i dont recall saying that nor do i think silverwolf would unless if im misunderstanding what you are saying here
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On January 29 2017 13:34 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2017 08:39 Silverika wrote: First of all, I'm pretty disappointed almost everyone rejected the mission if you guys thought it was all town. If you advocating rejecting the next one as well, we might as well hand it over to scum because after so many rejections, they win and we will just be sitting here chasing our tails with nothing to go on. Then I will feel like I completely wasted my damn time signing up for this. I mean WTF? Even two of the people on it and the team leader said no? Completely ridiculous.
I will be rejecting Tumblewood on the team. I think they are scum casting shade on everyone with the stupid excuse of "well, I don't townread them" That is such a scummy load of BS. If Tumblewood puts the same team with himself, I might consider it because it will confirm him scum unless he passes to try to fool us but I feel like it will be sabotaged and with the first mission rejected, on top of a sabotage, I will be super annoyed.
This isn't how my last game went but maybe you guys have a better way since scum won the one I played. I don't know but can someone explain how rejecting missions gets us anywhere? We can't lynch. We can keep people off missions. But we still need to have 3 successful ones. How is that gonna happen exactly?
~SilverWolf77 Show nested quote +On January 27 2017 07:19 Silverika wrote: Hi all!! Who has played before? I have one time online and the first mission passed. I'd like to go on the mission since we are members of the Resistance so I'm volunteering. Also, I'll sign my posts, ika42 likely will not. Any high level missions-ones with higher numbers of people that we aren't on will be rejected by us because if one Town voice isn't there, the chances of it being all Town is not high enough to take the risk.
~SilverWolf77
what are you trying to show with this quote?
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On January 29 2017 13:32 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2017 08:19 Superbia wrote: Sharkie just seems like mafia agreeing with the team because its likely right and attempting to get get credits for that. Something like that. Could be completely wrong, but hey. :D ya sharkie could be mafia. is there a mafia qt in this game?
ill be blunt, have yuou been reading? its been called out sharike is mafia already
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On January 29 2017 13:35 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2017 08:46 Silverika wrote: Also, I feel the team was town due to the very high number of rejections. Scum will reject the team if it's all town and they will all vote for it if there is even one scum on it. The fact only two said yes tells me that was an all town team.
~SilverWolf77 unless they know no ones going to vote. no one ever votes for the first mission its like free information to vote no on it
expalin it like this is my first game ever cus out of the like 5 times i have played it the first mission always goes and would pass regardless
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