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On January 18 2017 01:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2017 01:03 Alakaslam wrote:On January 18 2017 00:59 Vivax wrote:On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.
I will invite-
However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.
But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.
I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum. That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch. Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do? This is actually serious play. It's selfish to work within my own means rather than just sheep? Please tell me why; it would take far less effort to go "whoooo let's lynch HF" Like isn't that what I'd usually do anyway? Your reaction is confusing me big time: It's selfish to risk a no lynch, is what I mean. You can scumhunt on your own disregarding our opinions all you like but please slam, don't let us slide into a no lynch. What you wrote sounds like you will waste your vote if it suits you.
Aaand I forgot it was this type.
If HF is the only wagon, and needs a vote to be lynched, I will hammer.
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On January 18 2017 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason is that if Hapa is scum and he is lynching Holyflare, he will dominate. End of story.
But we would have to wait for him to survive night
I just realized this is more wifom then I had thought. Vivax is right.
Dammit I hate this situation so bad
u r overthinking it
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On January 18 2017 01:00 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2017 00:55 Rels wrote:On January 18 2017 00:53 Holyflare wrote:On January 17 2017 23:34 Rels wrote:On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred: On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ? Nope. which I think I hate by far the most This never comes back. It's a kinda weird thing to think, but I could accept town!HF taking that into account for solving the game. BUT IT NEVER COMES BACK. He votes Damdred after that. He talks about Damdred without talking about LS: On January 17 2017 20:08 Holyflare wrote:
I voted damdred for all the reasons I outlined early in the game and never moved it off him. He hadn't done much since then and so leaving my vote on him wasn't a bad thing. Nothing has changed with Damdred to be honest but in my eyes I see equal (maybe leaning scummier) points for him being both mafia or town. It is the thing "he hates the most by far" and he's forgetting it afterwards. This comes back in my first post of the day bro? Why should Hapa take it into account when you're not taking it into account ? How have I not taken it into account? In the post I accuse hapa I outline (not clearly at all) about 4 reasons damdred is mafia and 2-3 damdred is town (one of them being his ls read). I left my vote afk on damdred because: A) coinflippy B) pressure is great C) don't actually know damdred's alignment The meta thing is absolutely not a reason to solely town read damdred but it's something to ANALYTICALLY weigh up. Hapa's reasons for voting unvoting damdred are.....? Lazy/sheeping posts and thread presence? Ok rels.
Yeah. This doesn't make sense. I don't see how that makes sense. So it's a reason so important that Hapa not using it to townread Damdred is scummy; but not so important that you're not really sure about Damdred.
I think you're scum. I think that's exactly the kind of thing we need to get you caught as scum. You're not thinking about the game as a whole. Just applying logical stuff to Hapa, then logical stuff to Damdred. But they don't match.
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On January 18 2017 01:06 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2017 01:05 Rels wrote:On January 18 2017 00:59 Bill Murray wrote:On January 16 2017 21:37 Rels wrote:On January 16 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Rels hold on a moment.
You go on to disagree with Damdred about these points making LS town.
Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it's TMI afterwards if you aren't sure that LS is town? I think LS could be scum. I find Damdred's reasons to townread LS bad. Damdred is supposed to have a god meta read on LS. So if Damdred is scum, he's using his god meta read as an excuse to just give a townread to someone he knows is town, even though it doesn't show in the thread. this is a stretch you're claiming someone is going to break their entire integrity/pride/analytical ability on a whim in a small game? damdred may have been reaching early, but this is [oops]reach level reaching Damdred wouldn't break anything if he's scum. Anyway catch up then we can talk On January 18 2017 00:59 Bill Murray wrote:On January 16 2017 21:41 Rels wrote:
That's where I'm at, town to scum:
Vivax HF
Onegu Slam Damdred BM
LS Hapa love how you can read people who have yet to post id like to learn how to do that You are in the null row. yeah but why am i towards scum in the null row ? :/
You are not.
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On January 18 2017 01:08 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2017 01:05 Vivax wrote:On January 18 2017 01:03 Alakaslam wrote:On January 18 2017 00:59 Vivax wrote:On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.
I will invite-
However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.
But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.
I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum. That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch. Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do? This is actually serious play. It's selfish to work within my own means rather than just sheep? Please tell me why; it would take far less effort to go "whoooo let's lynch HF" Like isn't that what I'd usually do anyway? Your reaction is confusing me big time: It's selfish to risk a no lynch, is what I mean. You can scumhunt on your own disregarding our opinions all you like but please slam, don't let us slide into a no lynch. What you wrote sounds like you will waste your vote if it suits you. Aaand I forgot it was this type. If HF is the only wagon, and needs a vote to be lynched, I will hammer.
me 2 even on pg 10-12 or wherever i am
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this is a no contest between hf and rels imo its hf as scum and rels as town
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PROBLEM is im not convinced hf is scum yet could both be town
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On January 18 2017 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason is that if Hapa is scum and he is lynching Holyflare, he will dominate. End of story.
But we would have to wait for him to survive night
I just realized this is more wifom then I had thought. Vivax is right.
Dammit I hate this situation so bad
What do you think of Damdred? I think both him and HF have an equal shot at flipping mafia but I have to make compromises if we want to lynch, so right now I don't have a preference for HF, but others do.
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On January 18 2017 01:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2017 01:00 Holyflare wrote:On January 18 2017 00:55 Rels wrote:On January 18 2017 00:53 Holyflare wrote:On January 17 2017 23:34 Rels wrote:On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred: On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ? Nope. which I think I hate by far the most This never comes back. It's a kinda weird thing to think, but I could accept town!HF taking that into account for solving the game. BUT IT NEVER COMES BACK. He votes Damdred after that. He talks about Damdred without talking about LS: On January 17 2017 20:08 Holyflare wrote:
I voted damdred for all the reasons I outlined early in the game and never moved it off him. He hadn't done much since then and so leaving my vote on him wasn't a bad thing. Nothing has changed with Damdred to be honest but in my eyes I see equal (maybe leaning scummier) points for him being both mafia or town. It is the thing "he hates the most by far" and he's forgetting it afterwards. This comes back in my first post of the day bro? Why should Hapa take it into account when you're not taking it into account ? How have I not taken it into account? In the post I accuse hapa I outline (not clearly at all) about 4 reasons damdred is mafia and 2-3 damdred is town (one of them being his ls read). I left my vote afk on damdred because: A) coinflippy B) pressure is great C) don't actually know damdred's alignment The meta thing is absolutely not a reason to solely town read damdred but it's something to ANALYTICALLY weigh up. Hapa's reasons for voting unvoting damdred are.....? Lazy/sheeping posts and thread presence? Ok rels. Yeah. This doesn't make sense. I don't see how that makes sense. So it's a reason so important that Hapa not using it to townread Damdred is scummy; but not so important that you're not really sure about Damdred. I think you're scum. I think that's exactly the kind of thing we need to get you caught as scum. You're not thinking about the game as a whole. Just applying logical stuff to Hapa, then logical stuff to Damdred. But they don't match.
that's not the point at all wtf?
it's that there's MANY MANY MANY REASONS that aren't "the thread ain't saying shit" that have would a change on your stance on a person, the LS read being ONE OF THESE
hapa mentions NONE
NOT ONE
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ZILCH
he states multiple times that he has an issue scum reading people in this game WHILE HIGHLIGHTING REASONS TO SCUM READ PEOPLE
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On January 18 2017 01:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2017 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason is that if Hapa is scum and he is lynching Holyflare, he will dominate. End of story.
But we would have to wait for him to survive night
I just realized this is more wifom then I had thought. Vivax is right.
Dammit I hate this situation so bad What do you think of Damdred? I think both him and HF have an equal shot at flipping mafia but I have to make compromises if we want to lynch, so right now I don't have a preference for HF, but others do.
TBH I struggle to read Damdred. He was most active during a time when I was inactive, then left the site on my return.
I mostly read by meta tbh.the capability I have for logic other than on-the-spot is pretty time consuming, and I just don't have it.
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I believe we can agree that lynching Slam is off the table. Looks to me like he does care about the game.
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I would far rather lynch Damdred but in majority I have to compromise to get a lynch.
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I am here. I dont want to lynch HF. I really dont want to. Dont lynch HF.
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On January 18 2017 01:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2017 01:08 Rels wrote:On January 18 2017 01:00 Holyflare wrote:On January 18 2017 00:55 Rels wrote:On January 18 2017 00:53 Holyflare wrote:On January 17 2017 23:34 Rels wrote:On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred: On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ? Nope. which I think I hate by far the most This never comes back. It's a kinda weird thing to think, but I could accept town!HF taking that into account for solving the game. BUT IT NEVER COMES BACK. He votes Damdred after that. He talks about Damdred without talking about LS: On January 17 2017 20:08 Holyflare wrote:
I voted damdred for all the reasons I outlined early in the game and never moved it off him. He hadn't done much since then and so leaving my vote on him wasn't a bad thing. Nothing has changed with Damdred to be honest but in my eyes I see equal (maybe leaning scummier) points for him being both mafia or town. It is the thing "he hates the most by far" and he's forgetting it afterwards. This comes back in my first post of the day bro? Why should Hapa take it into account when you're not taking it into account ? How have I not taken it into account? In the post I accuse hapa I outline (not clearly at all) about 4 reasons damdred is mafia and 2-3 damdred is town (one of them being his ls read). I left my vote afk on damdred because: A) coinflippy B) pressure is great C) don't actually know damdred's alignment The meta thing is absolutely not a reason to solely town read damdred but it's something to ANALYTICALLY weigh up. Hapa's reasons for voting unvoting damdred are.....? Lazy/sheeping posts and thread presence? Ok rels. Yeah. This doesn't make sense. I don't see how that makes sense. So it's a reason so important that Hapa not using it to townread Damdred is scummy; but not so important that you're not really sure about Damdred. I think you're scum. I think that's exactly the kind of thing we need to get you caught as scum. You're not thinking about the game as a whole. Just applying logical stuff to Hapa, then logical stuff to Damdred. But they don't match. that's not the point at all wtf? it's that there's MANY MANY MANY REASONS that aren't "the thread ain't saying shit" that have would a change on your stance on a person, the LS read being ONE OF THESE hapa mentions NONE NOT ONE NADA ZILCH he states multiple times that he has an issue scum reading people in this game WHILE HIGHLIGHTING REASONS TO SCUM READ PEOPLE
THIS DOESNT MAKE SENSE unless Hapa used this "Damdred != LS" argument somewhere then forgets about it when he talks about Damdred. Otherwise WHY CANT HE THINK THAT ITS A BS ARGUMENT
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rels just outline like five bullet points why you're voting me and don't say you've already posted why
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On January 18 2017 01:13 Alakaslam wrote:
I would far rather lynch Damdred but in majority I have to compromise to get a lynch.
Would lynch Damdred over HF
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On January 18 2017 01:13 Vivax wrote:
I believe we can agree that lynching Slam is off the table. Looks to me like he does care about the game.
++ agree
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I can outline one point for why I think HF is scum:
He used an argument that must mean he thought "Damdred is mafia and he townread LS so Damdred isn't mafia" against Hapa.
And when he used it, it wasn't even very relevant to Hapa pointing out that it was simply the closest thing to a real read Damdred had.
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On January 18 2017 01:14 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2017 01:12 Holyflare wrote:On January 18 2017 01:08 Rels wrote:On January 18 2017 01:00 Holyflare wrote:On January 18 2017 00:55 Rels wrote:On January 18 2017 00:53 Holyflare wrote:On January 17 2017 23:34 Rels wrote:On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred: On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:
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this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ? Nope. which I think I hate by far the most This never comes back. It's a kinda weird thing to think, but I could accept town!HF taking that into account for solving the game. BUT IT NEVER COMES BACK. He votes Damdred after that. He talks about Damdred without talking about LS: On January 17 2017 20:08 Holyflare wrote:
I voted damdred for all the reasons I outlined early in the game and never moved it off him. He hadn't done much since then and so leaving my vote on him wasn't a bad thing. Nothing has changed with Damdred to be honest but in my eyes I see equal (maybe leaning scummier) points for him being both mafia or town. It is the thing "he hates the most by far" and he's forgetting it afterwards. This comes back in my first post of the day bro? Why should Hapa take it into account when you're not taking it into account ? How have I not taken it into account? In the post I accuse hapa I outline (not clearly at all) about 4 reasons damdred is mafia and 2-3 damdred is town (one of them being his ls read). I left my vote afk on damdred because: A) coinflippy B) pressure is great C) don't actually know damdred's alignment The meta thing is absolutely not a reason to solely town read damdred but it's something to ANALYTICALLY weigh up. Hapa's reasons for voting unvoting damdred are.....? Lazy/sheeping posts and thread presence? Ok rels. Yeah. This doesn't make sense. I don't see how that makes sense. So it's a reason so important that Hapa not using it to townread Damdred is scummy; but not so important that you're not really sure about Damdred. I think you're scum. I think that's exactly the kind of thing we need to get you caught as scum. You're not thinking about the game as a whole. Just applying logical stuff to Hapa, then logical stuff to Damdred. But they don't match. that's not the point at all wtf? it's that there's MANY MANY MANY REASONS that aren't "the thread ain't saying shit" that have would a change on your stance on a person, the LS read being ONE OF THESE hapa mentions NONE NOT ONE NADA ZILCH he states multiple times that he has an issue scum reading people in this game WHILE HIGHLIGHTING REASONS TO SCUM READ PEOPLE THIS DOESNT MAKE SENSE unless Hapa used this "Damdred != LS" argument somewhere then forgets about it when he talks about Damdred. Otherwise WHY CANT HE THINK THAT ITS A BS ARGUMENT
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He never mentions this argument once. Never discusses anything about damdred. Never talks about anything to do with damdred other than to damdred himself. His reason to vote damdred is solely that damdred is sheeping ME (another argument being that if damdred is solely sheeping me, why am I the mafia?). That's his only argumentation on voting damdred. There are many points in the thread that can make you lean one way or the other in damdred and each of them has some sort of effect on what you think of damdred. At all points in the game a good player, such as hapa, looks at these points and objectively weighs them up, makes an informed decision and a vote.
What do we get from hapa? That he's struggling to find reasons that someone is mafia? That he can't see one bit of information in this thread that could make him lean one way or the other one someone?
I think that's an utter crock of shit. I have so many "scum reads" because there's so much already information in this thread that people could go on that's already been made and can be used. Hapa doesn't even look at these points either he just accuses me of doing nothing with it while not even exploring to think it's right and then his return is just that I'm "omgusing" him when it's not like that at all because these are actual legit reasons to scum read hapa THAT YOU SHARED.
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