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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 15:48 GMT
#641
can u all wait to lynch until i catch up at least...
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 17 2017 15:49 GMT
#642
hello HF. Why so mad ? Hapa is scum anyway right ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 17 2017 15:49 GMT
#643
On January 18 2017 00:48 Bill Murray wrote:
can u all wait to lynch until i catch up at least...

This is only majority, not instant majority
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 17 2017 15:52 GMT
#644
No lynching is catastrophical by the way. This game you will have to vote even if you don't believe that the possible wagon is the right one. Basically if you allow a no lynch to happen it's extremely anti town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 15:53 GMT
#645
On January 17 2017 23:34 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred:

On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:50 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and also another game where you were his scummate Rels: Season of the Witch:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Damdred
Granted he tried to fake a red check on me at EoD to lynch me but failed.


the plot thickens

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred Another gem filter that I had linked there about me vs Damdred(I wasn't scum).

this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ?

Nope.


which I think I hate by far the most

This never comes back. It's a kinda weird thing to think, but I could accept town!HF taking that into account for solving the game. BUT IT NEVER COMES BACK.
He votes Damdred after that.
He talks about Damdred without talking about LS:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:08 Holyflare wrote:
I voted damdred for all the reasons I outlined early in the game and never moved it off him. He hadn't done much since then and so leaving my vote on him wasn't a bad thing. Nothing has changed with Damdred to be honest but in my eyes I see equal (maybe leaning scummier) points for him being both mafia or town.

It is the thing "he hates the most by far" and he's forgetting it afterwards.


This comes back in my first post of the day bro?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 17 2017 15:55 GMT
#646
On January 18 2017 00:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 23:34 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred:

On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:50 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and also another game where you were his scummate Rels: Season of the Witch:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Damdred
Granted he tried to fake a red check on me at EoD to lynch me but failed.


the plot thickens

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred Another gem filter that I had linked there about me vs Damdred(I wasn't scum).

this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ?

Nope.


which I think I hate by far the most

This never comes back. It's a kinda weird thing to think, but I could accept town!HF taking that into account for solving the game. BUT IT NEVER COMES BACK.
He votes Damdred after that.
He talks about Damdred without talking about LS:
On January 17 2017 20:08 Holyflare wrote:
I voted damdred for all the reasons I outlined early in the game and never moved it off him. He hadn't done much since then and so leaving my vote on him wasn't a bad thing. Nothing has changed with Damdred to be honest but in my eyes I see equal (maybe leaning scummier) points for him being both mafia or town.

It is the thing "he hates the most by far" and he's forgetting it afterwards.


This comes back in my first post of the day bro?

Why should Hapa take it into account when you're not taking it into account ?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:57 GMT
#647
On January 18 2017 00:52 Vivax wrote:
No lynching is catastrophical by the way. This game you will have to vote even if you don't believe that the possible wagon is the right one. Basically if you allow a no lynch to happen it's extremely anti town.

^
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 15:57 GMT
#648
On January 18 2017 00:49 Rels wrote:
hello HF. Why so mad ? Hapa is scum anyway right ?


Because you quoted something that isn't true and rolled with it and suddenly all the lurkers (solely ls) returns to completely backtrack on his original point and vote me.

I'm coming home now. Expect sick nasty try harding. My passion has been invigorated.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 17 2017 15:58 GMT
#649
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 15:59 GMT
#650
On January 16 2017 21:37 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Rels hold on a moment.

You go on to disagree with Damdred about these points making LS town.

Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it's TMI afterwards if you aren't sure that LS is town?

I think LS could be scum. I find Damdred's reasons to townread LS bad. Damdred is supposed to have a god meta read on LS. So if Damdred is scum, he's using his god meta read as an excuse to just give a townread to someone he knows is town, even though it doesn't show in the thread.

this is a stretch

you're claiming someone is going to break their entire integrity/pride/analytical ability on a whim in a small game? damdred may have been reaching early, but this is [oops]reach level reaching
On January 16 2017 21:41 Rels wrote:
That's where I'm at, town to scum:
Vivax HF
Onegu Slam Damdred BM
LS Hapa

love how you can read people who have yet to post

id like to learn how to do that
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 17 2017 15:59 GMT
#651
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.


That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch.

Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 16:00 GMT
#652
On January 18 2017 00:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:53 Holyflare wrote:
On January 17 2017 23:34 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred:

On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:50 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and also another game where you were his scummate Rels: Season of the Witch:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Damdred
Granted he tried to fake a red check on me at EoD to lynch me but failed.


the plot thickens

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred Another gem filter that I had linked there about me vs Damdred(I wasn't scum).

this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ?

Nope.


which I think I hate by far the most

This never comes back. It's a kinda weird thing to think, but I could accept town!HF taking that into account for solving the game. BUT IT NEVER COMES BACK.
He votes Damdred after that.
He talks about Damdred without talking about LS:
On January 17 2017 20:08 Holyflare wrote:
I voted damdred for all the reasons I outlined early in the game and never moved it off him. He hadn't done much since then and so leaving my vote on him wasn't a bad thing. Nothing has changed with Damdred to be honest but in my eyes I see equal (maybe leaning scummier) points for him being both mafia or town.

It is the thing "he hates the most by far" and he's forgetting it afterwards.


This comes back in my first post of the day bro?

Why should Hapa take it into account when you're not taking it into account ?


How have I not taken it into account? In the post I accuse hapa I outline (not clearly at all) about 4 reasons damdred is mafia and 2-3 damdred is town (one of them being his ls read). I left my vote afk on damdred because:

A) coinflippy
B) pressure is great
C) don't actually know damdred's alignment

The meta thing is absolutely not a reason to solely town read damdred but it's something to ANALYTICALLY weigh up.

Hapa's reasons for voting unvoting damdred are.....? Lazy/sheeping posts and thread presence?

Ok rels.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 16:01 GMT
#653
vivax , hapahauli, damdred, ls all look town so far

This is what ive wrote in my notepad from ~ page 3-10

"holyflare: analytical corporate holyflare as opposed to fireside chat holyflare.. page 6 and more of this bullshit. we dont need a counselor we need a scumhunter
LS: village idiot?
hapahauli: - vivax interaction, likely both not scum, hes town?
damdred: reaching early. good interaction towards LS but hope theyre not a team
vivax: unlikely scum with hapahauli but is coming out looking better than hapa (slightly) early. vivax scumpoints on page 6 (excuses) [+15] elevated from +10 because he has some thread cred but -10 because human interaction has him fearful so +5 overall
nearly null


town: Damdred
Vivax
Hapahauli
LightningStrike

Scum: Holyflare? Rels?"

my "scum" question marks at the end are because there are wagons on them - not that im reading either as scum - but i see why you guys are thus far and i understand why they have wagons on them

Holyflare has a DA vibe to him as Alakaslam put it
Rels I'm not reading as scum honestly but his entrance rustled some feathers. maybe the next 20 pages will change my mind but probably not
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 17 2017 16:03 GMT
#654
On January 18 2017 00:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.


That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch.

Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do?

This is actually serious play. It's selfish to work within my own means rather than just sheep? Please tell me why; it would take far less effort to go "whoooo let's lynch HF"

Like isn't that what I'd usually do anyway? Your reaction is confusing me big time:
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 17 2017 16:05 GMT
#655
On January 18 2017 01:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.


That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch.

Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do?

This is actually serious play. It's selfish to work within my own means rather than just sheep? Please tell me why; it would take far less effort to go "whoooo let's lynch HF"

Like isn't that what I'd usually do anyway? Your reaction is confusing me big time:


It's selfish to risk a no lynch, is what I mean. You can scumhunt on your own disregarding our opinions all you like but please slam, don't let us slide into a no lynch. What you wrote sounds like you will waste your vote if it suits you.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 17 2017 16:05 GMT
#656
On January 18 2017 00:59 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 21:37 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Rels hold on a moment.

You go on to disagree with Damdred about these points making LS town.

Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it's TMI afterwards if you aren't sure that LS is town?

I think LS could be scum. I find Damdred's reasons to townread LS bad. Damdred is supposed to have a god meta read on LS. So if Damdred is scum, he's using his god meta read as an excuse to just give a townread to someone he knows is town, even though it doesn't show in the thread.

this is a stretch

you're claiming someone is going to break their entire integrity/pride/analytical ability on a whim in a small game? damdred may have been reaching early, but this is [oops]reach level reaching

Damdred wouldn't break anything if he's scum. Anyway catch up then we can talk
On January 18 2017 00:59 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 21:41 Rels wrote:
That's where I'm at, town to scum:
Vivax HF
Onegu Slam Damdred BM
LS Hapa

love how you can read people who have yet to post

id like to learn how to do that

You are in the null row.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 16:06 GMT
#657
On January 16 2017 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 22:24 Rels wrote:
LS can you expand on why is Hapa / HF weird ?

Something feels off like it doesn't seem Town vs Town especially how they were interacting with each other it feels forced somewhere and or how the arguments were presented.

good point here from LS which justifies his HF vote he just made
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 16:06 GMT
#658
On January 18 2017 01:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:59 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:37 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Rels hold on a moment.

You go on to disagree with Damdred about these points making LS town.

Why immediately jump to the conclusion that it's TMI afterwards if you aren't sure that LS is town?

I think LS could be scum. I find Damdred's reasons to townread LS bad. Damdred is supposed to have a god meta read on LS. So if Damdred is scum, he's using his god meta read as an excuse to just give a townread to someone he knows is town, even though it doesn't show in the thread.

this is a stretch

you're claiming someone is going to break their entire integrity/pride/analytical ability on a whim in a small game? damdred may have been reaching early, but this is [oops]reach level reaching

Damdred wouldn't break anything if he's scum. Anyway catch up then we can talk
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:59 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:41 Rels wrote:
That's where I'm at, town to scum:
Vivax HF
Onegu Slam Damdred BM
LS Hapa

love how you can read people who have yet to post

id like to learn how to do that

You are in the null row.

yeah but why am i towards scum in the null row ? :/
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 17 2017 16:06 GMT
#659
The reason is that if Hapa is scum and he is lynching Holyflare, he will dominate. End of story.

But we would have to wait for him to survive night

I just realized this is more wifom then I had thought. Vivax is right.

Dammit I hate this situation so bad
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 16:07 GMT
#660
i disagree

when someone creates their own meta they , at least when i used to play that way, when i was younger, will use it like a bomb

they make the meta bomb (here damdred LS read) then they later explode it to make a big trick and win the game off of it
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