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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 15:29 GMT
#621
On January 16 2017 03:10 LightningStrike wrote:
TBH though if Damdred keeps pushing all of Day 1 and thinks I scum then he pretty much will claim scum just fyi since he normally can read me well.

wut

[/u]
On January 16 2017 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Sound 10/10 logic

##Vote LightningStrike

............


Don't take it personally LS. I'm just voting for your execution.

But I already rolled scum in the last qualifiers what are the chances I rolled scum twice in a row for these qualifiers?

WUT?

vote: LightningStrike
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
January 17 2017 15:30 GMT
#622
On January 18 2017 00:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:16 Hapahauli wrote:
I think you are town Rels, but your posts are tilting me really hard. I'm going to take a break, drive to the doctors, and be back in 45 minutes ish.

Nothing I'm saying is against you personnaly. But I know the feeling. I'm feeling the same. This is my towniest game in a long time and I'm not top town in anyone reads. Granted, D1 has always been my worst day, but still.


I like the turn you took in the last few pages actually. Before I had the impression you were overlooking things I thought were relevant.

I didn't mention all of them yet, but yesterday it was the entire argument on Damdred. You came into the thread at some point when Hapa and I voted and kind of disregarded it entirely.

Today you were so intent on lynching Hapa from the get go that you initially overlooked the point on HF you now like.

Makes me feel a bit better about you but I sitll have the thought gnawing at the back of my head that you simply felt like you were coerced into updating your opinion.

What also bugs me a little is that only active people seem to be discussed for lynch but fwiw 1gus and slams posts seemed okay, I also have lower standards for them though so easier to fool on that front. I'm mostly crossing fingers here that it's not a mistake to allow them to get through D1. If it comes to it I'd rather lynch Slam tho, simply cause 1gu makes more sense to me.

But hey it's not like HF hasn't done scummy things.

Quick update of what's going on in my mind anyway.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 17 2017 15:31 GMT
#623
On January 18 2017 00:04 Rels wrote:
basically
if one people (LS, Damdred, BM, Onegu ...) comes back + HF we have to lynch Slam
if two people comes back we can lynch HF



Yeah Im not doing either of these things...

Getting my son ready My mom will be here to pick him up in 45min to a hour and take him out to the store. Then. ILL BE BACK!
Try TL Mafia!!!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
January 17 2017 15:31 GMT
#624
On January 18 2017 00:29 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:10 LightningStrike wrote:
TBH though if Damdred keeps pushing all of Day 1 and thinks I scum then he pretty much will claim scum just fyi since he normally can read me well.

wut

Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Sound 10/10 logic

##Vote LightningStrike

............


Don't take it personally LS. I'm just voting for your execution.

But I already rolled scum in the last qualifiers what are the chances I rolled scum twice in a row for these qualifiers?

WUT?

vote: LightningStrike
[/u]

So gambler's fallacy is a surefire scum trait?

More like a common human trait.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 17 2017 15:32 GMT
#625
On January 18 2017 00:29 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:10 LightningStrike wrote:
TBH though if Damdred keeps pushing all of Day 1 and thinks I scum then he pretty much will claim scum just fyi since he normally can read me well.

wut

Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Sound 10/10 logic

##Vote LightningStrike

............


Don't take it personally LS. I'm just voting for your execution.

But I already rolled scum in the last qualifiers what are the chances I rolled scum twice in a row for these qualifiers?

WUT?

vote: LightningStrike
[/u]
First, what's weird with these ?
Second, this is majority vote. You will need to vote for the main wagon before deadline
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 15:32 GMT
#626
To me, the back and forth between Vivax and Hapa on Pg. 5 makes it to where they aren't both scum - likely both town - I didn't like Hapa's opening and was leaning scum but his posts on Pg. 5 have me thinking more of him as town in my "it's all too early to pick out who are scum" phase
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 15:33 GMT
#627
On January 18 2017 00:32 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:29 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:10 LightningStrike wrote:
TBH though if Damdred keeps pushing all of Day 1 and thinks I scum then he pretty much will claim scum just fyi since he normally can read me well.

wut

On January 16 2017 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Sound 10/10 logic

##Vote LightningStrike

............


Don't take it personally LS. I'm just voting for your execution.

But I already rolled scum in the last qualifiers what are the chances I rolled scum twice in a row for these qualifiers?

WUT?

vote: LightningStrike

First, what's weird with these ?
Second, this is majority vote. You will need to vote for the main wagon before deadline
[/u]
ill vote where i want.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 17 2017 15:34 GMT
#628
On January 18 2017 00:31 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:04 Rels wrote:
basically
if one people (LS, Damdred, BM, Onegu ...) comes back + HF we have to lynch Slam
if two people comes back we can lynch HF



Yeah Im not doing either of these things...

Getting my son ready My mom will be here to pick him up in 45min to a hour and take him out to the store. Then. ILL BE BACK!

Just in time for the last hour. Great
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 15:34 GMT
#629
On January 18 2017 00:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:29 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:10 LightningStrike wrote:
TBH though if Damdred keeps pushing all of Day 1 and thinks I scum then he pretty much will claim scum just fyi since he normally can read me well.

wut

On January 16 2017 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Sound 10/10 logic

##Vote LightningStrike

............


Don't take it personally LS. I'm just voting for your execution.

But I already rolled scum in the last qualifiers what are the chances I rolled scum twice in a row for these qualifiers?

WUT?

vote: LightningStrike


So gambler's fallacy is a surefire scum trait?

More like a common human trait.
[/u]
im on page 5. this is the most i have to go on. i dont expect to keep this vote as im sure something more glaring will pop up but yes this is illogical and scummy to me.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 17 2017 15:34 GMT
#630
On January 18 2017 00:33 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:32 Rels wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:29 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:10 LightningStrike wrote:
TBH though if Damdred keeps pushing all of Day 1 and thinks I scum then he pretty much will claim scum just fyi since he normally can read me well.

wut

On January 16 2017 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Sound 10/10 logic

##Vote LightningStrike

............


Don't take it personally LS. I'm just voting for your execution.

But I already rolled scum in the last qualifiers what are the chances I rolled scum twice in a row for these qualifiers?

WUT?

vote: LightningStrike

First, what's weird with these ?
Second, this is majority vote. You will need to vote for the main wagon before deadline

ill vote where i want.
[/u]
nope. We could lose a mislynch if you don't vote for the main wagon and that causes a no-lynch
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
January 17 2017 15:34 GMT
#631
On January 18 2017 00:32 Bill Murray wrote:
To me, the back and forth between Vivax and Hapa on Pg. 5 makes it to where they aren't both scum - likely both town - I didn't like Hapa's opening and was leaning scum but his posts on Pg. 5 have me thinking more of him as town in my "it's all too early to pick out who are scum" phase


PLEASE finish reading before posting, I don't want to go through another Rels. This thread is really small too.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:34 GMT
#632
Just woke up and caught up. Decent case on HF by both Hapa and Vivax about the Damdred/Me stuff regarding HF which is kind of odd tbh. I honestly can't read him to well I will admit that but I will vote him since other people are voting him.
##Vote: Holyflare
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 15:36 GMT
#633
On January 16 2017 03:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:31 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 03:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Since you can't read my shoulders from your computer screen, what gives you the impression that I'm tense?


Your posts give me the impression that you sit in front of the computer screen with an attitude like "alright, I'm here, I need to do something, fucking give me something to do already".


Bingo. I don't think that's tense though. It's a well-established part of my game to get people talking, even if I have to force the shit out of things.

I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now

Why scummy? Cause as scum posting early you'd be like. "What? Now I'm here to put in effort I don't have to actually put in and nobody's here?" and then you jump at things in a bit of an exaggerated manner to compensate for that.


You can think what you like, but you know the solution to reading me is pretty simple. Either I keep up with my try-harding (and I'm town), or my activity drops off like a cliff (and I'm mafia). I'm self-aware of this tell for sure, but I haven't been able to fix it.


It's early in the game I'm perfectly fine with leaving it at that, just wanted to get a possible interpretation out of the system after noticing your attitude.

Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
I think Vivax might be town for his questioning onto Hapa or at least trying to draw a conclusion with his posts towards Hapa.


Do you think I can't replicate that as scum? Dunno why you feel like posting this already. I mean ok, it's never bad to be posting reads. But just this post alone in the room looks a bit solitary.

It's just that I'm used to everyone saying that I become obvious as scum as the game progresses and I thought you adopted that point of view as well.

note vivax agrees with me "its early in the game" (where im reading)

so hopefully i get a more fleshed out read than having to throw my vote away on someone merely being illogical and stupid
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:36 GMT
#634
Also another problem I had with HF was he was a bit nitpicky with Damdred for a bit which I did say which might actually be more of a scum tell here.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 15:36 GMT
#635
On January 18 2017 00:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 00:32 Bill Murray wrote:
To me, the back and forth between Vivax and Hapa on Pg. 5 makes it to where they aren't both scum - likely both town - I didn't like Hapa's opening and was leaning scum but his posts on Pg. 5 have me thinking more of him as town in my "it's all too early to pick out who are scum" phase


PLEASE finish reading before posting, I don't want to go through another Rels. This thread is really small too.

fine
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:37 GMT
#636
Also welcome BM just catch yourself up.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:39 GMT
#637
Tbh why am I getting deja vu about BM being similar to btdt in my last game?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:44 GMT
#638
On January 18 2017 00:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh why am I getting deja vu about BM being similar to btdt in my last game?

Mainly on the timing of entering the thread close to EoD >.<
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 15:46 GMT
#639
On January 17 2017 23:06 Hapahauli wrote:
On Holyflare:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
I'll draw you a pretty picture of where I'm at when I finish work.

Hapa how come you think I'm mafia when my list of potential mafia are everyone you've been calling out? Ls, you've said he starts to fit damdred's meta of being lazy but never follow that up further and "at a stretch" he's not even in your list of, now 3, mafia suspects.

You wanted to lynch damdred for what reason? That he's playing the same as you and that's it?

Onegu? Not doing anything?

Me? Not pushing stuff?

This list of people is incredibly superficial and you have no actual reasons, despite there being ACTUAL reasons to scum read these people or town read them.


Missing the point.

Me and a lot of other people this game have had problems finding suspicious people. Ergo, lynch lurkers.
You apparently think everyone is mafia. Ergo... lynch lurkers?

Very much not the same. I and others have reached my conclusions based on how lost we have felt with the game. You are seemingly sitting on a trove of information and leads and are not doing anything wiht them. Ergo, mafia.

Show nested quote +
Damdred there's a tonne to weigh up. Him being demotivated, not doing much and rolling over is normally what I consider town damdred to be. You may not know that but if you're town he's playing the exact same way you're criticising 3 (and include yourself) people for. What made him mafia over everyone else? Why ignore the LS meta read that damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia? Then there's also him just rolling with the thread/whatever I have said, ignoring his meta read on ls being wrong multiple times and the afk excuse that just pops up out of nowhere.

None of the above feature in your thoughts whatsoever (maybe 1 does) but you never bother pushing it or enquiring more or conversing with other people. You're not thinking critically about the game, you're throwing out names of people for lazy/low activity/no content and hoping something sticks.


What the actual fuck does Damdred have to do anything with? How in the actual fuck does the bolded make any sense towards me being mafia?

I had my vote on Damdred. I didn't' like it. I posted in detail at the top of 26 why. Then I voted you because I'm more suspicious of you.

And how do you call me mafia for throwing out lazy/low activity names AFTER I MAKE MY CASE ON YOU?!!

You are not this thick as town.


Damdred is IMPORTANT because your literal vote for damdred is due to him being lazy and posting IN RESPONSE AND FOLLOWING ME. Now that's really really important because all of that was complete bs on your part. Playing lazy and reactive is not a mafia trait (it's not alignment indicative at all) but that's ALL you had. There's all that information I listed which is relevant, which you haven't formulated in any post in this game, which you haven't pushed or questioned. You didn't CARE about damdred's alignment, you were just posting to post. Nothing looks like you're reading into something and weighing it up, not one bit.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 15:47 GMT
#640
unvoting cause damdred on pg. 6 is claiming LS is town and yeah he seems to have a better read on the guy than i do
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