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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 21:52 GMT
#461
On January 17 2017 06:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Rels, you give town reads out like hotcakes.

careful, they cool down quickly
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 21:52 GMT
#462
Let me phrase that differently. Who are you not town-reading?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 21:56 GMT
#463
On January 17 2017 06:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Let me phrase that differently. Who are you not town-reading?

Don't know. My mind is changing rapidly. Will read filters before deciding.
Slam for sure I'm not townreading.
Onegu, you, Damdred neither. Even though I remarked one thing or another that could be townie. But scum fake town things.
BM ofc
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 21:58 GMT
#464
If the town things you point out don't matter, why mention them at all?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 21:59 GMT
#465
Like I really don't get the way Slam think. And some things sound forced. He was lectury about stuff a few times, even though people didn't attack him for that:
On January 17 2017 01:10 Alakaslam wrote:
And can think outside this "must have scumreads to be readable" shit false cancer meta. Or am I wrong? Are you not above that?

On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.

On January 17 2017 01:37 Alakaslam wrote:
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On January 17 2017 01:20 Rels wrote:
Slam, your reason to call Hapa conf town is horrible. It doesn't make sense. Even in the weird way you post. Actually, especially with the weird way you post. Someone using logic doesn't mean they're town. That's actually the opposite

If people said this shit about you and ignored you when you finally form a solid read on chezinu, you'd never change ever sure.

You'd never get pissed sure, even if they shit on you post game. Sure.

On January 17 2017 02:18 Alakaslam wrote:
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On January 17 2017 02:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Honestly, I have reasons to think every active poster is town, and I'm trying to look for any lead I can. I guess it is "shade throwing" to an outside eye. I'm just usually at a point where I have more concrete reads at this point in the game, and I just don't have them.

The closest thing I have to a scumread is Slam, but I'm very wary of the lynchbait factor there.

See so many people here would call this scummy. Because it "lacks commitment and scum have trouble scumreading people because they know you are town"

But sometimes you just dont have anything but townreads for a time. And jumping on people leads to ML which should be avoided if possible.

But no because D1 is always a coin flip you have to scumread anyone or why the hell couod you be town? Lol

But d1 is in fact a coin flip usually, so...

I didn't like that. Didn't like the OMGUS on me for no reason. Didn't like why Hapa is conf town.
There were no reasons for those stuff. There weren't reasons that I couldn't get but could see that they were here. It was just random
Makes me want to lynch him
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 21:59 GMT
#466
On January 17 2017 06:58 Hapahauli wrote:
If the town things you point out don't matter, why mention them at all?

Cause they do matter. Only 2 people can be scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 21:59 GMT
#467
this was a shit question
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 22:04 GMT
#468
TBH maybe Hapa is the lynch. If we forget D1 effort and go with the scummiest filter I think Hapa > anyone else actually. There is ONE townie post. Rest is very careful, some defense, and reasons that sounds logical but don't make people scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 22:06 GMT
#469
lets not forget the multiple "I posted some forced things to get reactions" that usually comes from scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 22:07 GMT
#470
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

And this is weird. What were you "private" reads ?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 22:13 GMT
#471
On January 17 2017 07:07 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

And this is weird. What were you "private" reads ?


Nothing. I was just stating how the only read that I had on record in the thread was the Vivax one.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 22:18 GMT
#472
Damdred only having townreads and POEing his D1 lynch is not unusual for him as town. Doesn't make him town for sure ofc. But I don't wannalynch him. There are stuff bothering me: namely the slam read, a gut feel that he repeated severael times; and the fact that he didn't realize that Onegu was not serious, indicates that he's not reading the thread. Dunno if that's a great scum indicator though. There are things pointing as him being town: the hard LS townread is out of meta for him unless they're partners, his posts about Vivax vs Hapa seem genuine and fluid
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 22:19 GMT
#473
On January 17 2017 07:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 07:07 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

And this is weird. What were you "private" reads ?


Nothing. I was just stating how the only read that I had on record in the thread was the Vivax one.

weird way of putting it then
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 22:31 GMT
#474
hapa how would you rate your D1 scum lynching skill ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 22:39 GMT
#475
On August 23 2014 16:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, i know my posts appear as bad or scummy sometimes because i do not explain myself. That is NOT scummy. All the good players do know that because they look behind the actual words - they look at the meaning of the words. Why people say the stuff they do. I ALWAYS have an agenda for the stuff i say whether or not i explain it.

Hapa is one of the few players who is REALLY good in reading into this. He just cannot do that as mafia because idk why, he just can't. Probably because he hates being mafia. In this game he is clearly showing he is not thinking about the game and those things - even though i have, in THIS GAME, said this is EXACTLY how i play. Even if it was not clear to him before this game THIS GAME SHOULD PROVE i am telling the truth.

He is not figuring out stuff how he would as town. I do not know how to explain it better as i am bad at explaining shit.
I however promised to play my best game this game and as my alignment is town you should kill Hapa with fire because he is mafia. I will tell who the rest of the mafia team is on N1. Now we lynch Hapahauli.

A bit from this post from rayn in a game where Hapa was 3P makes me think of this current game. Hapa had many posts that looked like they were "for show". That just pinned something illogical but didn't advance the game further. Like, wxhen he asked about Damdred changing slightly his mind between two psots. Or when he pressured Vivax because Vivax said "this is weird" instead of "this is scummy" or something likle that. Or when he asked slam about something terrible.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 22:42 GMT
#476
or just now with the "why mention town tell of people you are suspicious of" question actually
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 22:43 GMT
#477
##Unvote
##Vote Hapahauli
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 16 2017 22:54 GMT
#478
I'm going to sleep. See you tomorrow folks (=
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
January 16 2017 23:20 GMT
#479
Vote Count

LightningStrike (0) : Hapahauli
Vivax (0) : Hapahauli
Damdred (3) : Holyflare, Vivax,Hapahauli
Rels (0) : Vivax
Alakaslam (1) : Rels, Onegu
Hapahauli (1) : Rels
Not voting (4) :Damdred, Bill Murray, LightningStrike, Alakaslam

Currently, no one is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Tuesday, Jan 17 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory!

with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

If you see any vote out of place, let us know!


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 00:48 GMT
#480
On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
I'm really, really, really not a fan of LS since he's done shit all and then went on and on about how he NEEDED damdred's read on me/hapa to do anything and then just said fair enough and did absolutely nothing when damdred did post something relevant

then I hate that damdred/rels KEEP making these lazy meta ls reads that aren't even true and then when presented with new information that should update their reads they don't even bother looking into it or fact checking it and damdred is playing lazzyyyy

then I hate onegu's "catch up" but I don't know if that's extreme bias because I despise a million times over people that do page by page catch ups instead of just a summary but regardless his catch up that he's done so far is shit

then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred:

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On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:50 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and also another game where you were his scummate Rels: Season of the Witch:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Damdred
Granted he tried to fake a red check on me at EoD to lynch me but failed.


the plot thickens

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred Another gem filter that I had linked there about me vs Damdred(I wasn't scum).

this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ?

Nope.


which I think I hate by far the most

I said fair enough because I already stated my position on Hapa:
On January 17 2017 01:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:11 Damdred wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Idk why think Slam thinks Hapa is confirmed town already when he clearly isn't.


LS what are your reads?

Town
Damdred: Meta and actions suggest more likely town than scum.
Vivax: He had good pressure on Hapa and then later pressuring Rels.
Null:
HF: Easily could do those stuff from both alignment.
Rels: Need more posts from him to get better read on him.
Slam: Need him to explain his Hapa read a bit more.
Onegu: Only made 2 posts need more posts from him period.
Hapa: Would be my scum in the fight between him and HF didn't like the way he had shut down HF's push on you. But is okay but still questionable

So he kinda agrees with me there so not much needed to discuss.
Also I don't think we should lynch BM because his lynch would give absolutely no information on anything at all regardless of his alignment. Rather lynch into the active slots more or less.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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