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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
January 16 2017 18:17 GMT
#421
I am taking some of my breakthrough pain meds. Ill be back in a bit. Im at the top of page 13.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
January 16 2017 18:18 GMT
#422
On January 17 2017 03:16 Vivax wrote:
Why is slam scum for his first 4 posts is what I'm asking.



He isnt. Doesnt mean I am not going to vote him.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 18:54 GMT
#423
So... you're voting for Slam because his opening is bad, and not because you think he's suspicious?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 16 2017 18:59 GMT
#424
On January 17 2017 02:48 Onegu wrote:
##Vote Slam

100% based on his first 4 posts...

Yeah my first 4 posts werent any better content wise but at least I didnt tell you about my shit.

Lol

It was really really painful though
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 16 2017 19:04 GMT
#425
On January 17 2017 03:54 Hapahauli wrote:
So... you're voting for Slam because his opening is bad, and not because you think he's suspicious?

Yes

He is tired of my shit
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21951 Posts
January 16 2017 19:24 GMT
#426
I'm warming up to the idea of Damdred being scum, for one really simple reason: There's no bite, no desire to find scum or push the game forward. I have yet to see him make some good observation that's aimed at catching someone.

Overall he looks waaaay to peaceful. Only townreads. And I wouldn't even complain that he doesn't have scumreads, but I believe he didn't even try to find one, when I look at his filter.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 19:26 GMT
#427
On January 17 2017 02:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:59 Holyflare wrote:
Uh who was saying ls doesn't post links to filters as mafia? Cos he does in one of his games


Fwiw this has also been answered


yes it's been answered and it has been acknowledged clearly but yet nobody who made that read (damdred/rels) seem to give a shit that it even exists and haven't updated their reads accordingly

no likey
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 19:29 GMT
#428
onegu why are you making reads that you contradict instantly just by reading? why not just wait?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 19:56 GMT
#429
On January 17 2017 04:24 Vivax wrote:
I'm warming up to the idea of Damdred being scum, for one really simple reason: There's no bite, no desire to find scum or push the game forward. I have yet to see him make some good observation that's aimed at catching someone.

Overall he looks waaaay to peaceful. Only townreads. And I wouldn't even complain that he doesn't have scumreads, but I believe he didn't even try to find one, when I look at his filter.


This is what I was getting at earlier, but much more articulate.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 16 2017 19:58 GMT
#430
Vote Count

LightningStrike (0) : Hapahauli
Vivax (0) : Hapahauli
Damdred (2) : Holyflare, Vivax
Rels (0) : Vivax
Alakaslam (2) : Rels, Onegu

Not voting (5) :Damdred, Bill Murray, LightningStrike, Hapahauli, Alakaslam

Currently, no one is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Tuesday, Jan 17 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory!

with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

If you see any vote out of place, let us know!

I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21951 Posts
January 16 2017 20:03 GMT
#431
On January 17 2017 04:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 04:24 Vivax wrote:
I'm warming up to the idea of Damdred being scum, for one really simple reason: There's no bite, no desire to find scum or push the game forward. I have yet to see him make some good observation that's aimed at catching someone.

Overall he looks waaaay to peaceful. Only townreads. And I wouldn't even complain that he doesn't have scumreads, but I believe he didn't even try to find one, when I look at his filter.


This is what I was getting at earlier, but much more articulate.


Hop on the wagon and see where it leads us, then.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 20:04 GMT
#432
Based on the last few pages, I'm between Onegu and Damdred for mafia.

Slam's opening was bad, but I liked the subsequent posts. He makes observations that are matter-of-fact and very self-aware. There's also a huge lynchbait factor here. In his own words, Slam is not a good communicator regardless of alignment.

Onegu's vote on Slam is strange and scummy. I can't tell if it's policy, legitimate suspicion, or something in between. Slam has also been talking and interacting with the thread, and I don't like Onegu coming in and just shitting on his first 4 posts without even attempting to engage him.

Damdred for the posts above.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 16 2017 20:06 GMT
#433
## Vote Damdred

I only have one vote, so I'll put it here. At the end of the day, I expect more from town-Damdred. If I could vote both players, I would.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 20:08 GMT
#434
I'm at a bit of an impasse because I think there could actually be too many scum :D
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21951 Posts
January 16 2017 20:11 GMT
#435
On January 17 2017 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
I'm at a bit of an impasse because I think there could actually be too many scum :D


Still suspicious of Hapa?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 20:14 GMT
#436
I'm really, really, really not a fan of LS since he's done shit all and then went on and on about how he NEEDED damdred's read on me/hapa to do anything and then just said fair enough and did absolutely nothing when damdred did post something relevant

then I hate that damdred/rels KEEP making these lazy meta ls reads that aren't even true and then when presented with new information that should update their reads they don't even bother looking into it or fact checking it and damdred is playing lazzyyyy

then I hate onegu's "catch up" but I don't know if that's extreme bias because I despise a million times over people that do page by page catch ups instead of just a summary but regardless his catch up that he's done so far is shit

then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred:

On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:50 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and also another game where you were his scummate Rels: Season of the Witch:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Damdred
Granted he tried to fake a red check on me at EoD to lynch me but failed.


the plot thickens

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred Another gem filter that I had linked there about me vs Damdred(I wasn't scum).

this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ?

Nope.


which I think I hate by far the most
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 20:20 GMT
#437
The problem I absolutely have with Hapa is that I find everything he does scummy but then he just answers it with a nice post which kind of eases my suspicions because "oooo nice post" but then does absolutely nothing.

I know Hapa can write long flashy paragraphs and look good and I don't think it's much of a stretch for a good wall of text player to look all shiny and blend in this way.

At a lot of points in this game there's little tidbits of information that Hapa glosses over to make a post (such as the damdred/ls thing) and he just seems to be existing, much like he's criticising damdred for and that bugs me a lot.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 20:22 GMT
#438
I'm in a deep deep deep web of association theories and I don't like it

send help
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21951 Posts
January 16 2017 20:22 GMT
#439
On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
I'm really, really, really not a fan of LS since he's done shit all and then went on and on about how he NEEDED damdred's read on me/hapa to do anything and then just said fair enough and did absolutely nothing when damdred did post something relevant

then I hate that damdred/rels KEEP making these lazy meta ls reads that aren't even true and then when presented with new information that should update their reads they don't even bother looking into it or fact checking it and damdred is playing lazzyyyy

then I hate onegu's "catch up" but I don't know if that's extreme bias because I despise a million times over people that do page by page catch ups instead of just a summary but regardless his catch up that he's done so far is shit

then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred:

Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:50 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and also another game where you were his scummate Rels: Season of the Witch:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Damdred
Granted he tried to fake a red check on me at EoD to lynch me but failed.


the plot thickens

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred Another gem filter that I had linked there about me vs Damdred(I wasn't scum).

this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ?

Nope.


which I think I hate by far the most


I think you're just about throwing (almost) the right names out there to discuss. I feel better about Hapa, he posts very accurately and diligently which on its own wouldn't be AI but I get the feeling that it walks us through a legitimate thought process, so that's useful.

LS/Damdred/Rels/1gu are imo worth looking into the most of the bunch. As for Slam, in his own way he said something. The DA thingy to start with, good idea to sheep you, and that gun to his head he would lynch Rels.
That's what I was able to extrapolate from my readings of his xeno language. For me enough to leave him alive D1 I suppose? Can't be confident about him ever.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 16 2017 20:23 GMT
#440
I literally have no fucking idea what he says and hope that he does something towny like last game because he's capable of that
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