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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 18:49 GMT
#1299
I still don't understand the "damage control" bit. Why does town Slam need to damage control?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:08 GMT
#1303
Yes, that's what I was assuming.

What are your reads on the game right now? Who's above suspicion? Who would you lynch?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:09 GMT
#1304
HF OMGUS inc.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:13 GMT
#1308
Yes, only when you were forced in a position where you *had* to do something.

My point is that you have no initiative.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1310
On January 20 2017 04:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 04:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Yes, that's what I was assuming.

What are your reads on the game right now? Who's above suspicion? Who would you lynch?

I have to read more closely.

I remember flipping my read on Rels. Btw Hapa did anyone say "the dead hate slam" or anything like that?

I felt this NK was to set up for my lynch. I was going to see if that metric worked.


Mmmm no. Rels died being suspicious of Onegu/Damdred, whilst being pretty "meh" on Holyflare.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:30 GMT
#1317
Here's an example HF.

Yesterday you post a case on Onegu, based on a tell that Rels had already pointed out (the "martyr" thing). I come in, post a case on Slam, and you literally go "looks wishy washy, would lynch."

Today, not a peep about Onegu, and 100% on Slam. Onegu's even been in the thread, and you haven't bothered to ask him anything, or even post anything about him beyond asking other people what they think about his alignment.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:31 GMT
#1318
On January 20 2017 04:20 Holyflare wrote:
And by the way. I take back my town read of you. The more I think about a hapa mind the more I dislike that you can even call me mafia after literally saving your life.

Unlucky.


You already explained in your filter why the bolded doesn't make any sense.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:44 GMT
#1328
Ah. I was wrong on the Rels thing. You are right.

That doesn't change the rest. Why even bide your time on Onegu anyway, if you think the guy is mafia?

On January 20 2017 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 20 2017 04:20 Holyflare wrote:
And by the way. I take back my town read of you. The more I think about a hapa mind the more I dislike that you can even call me mafia after literally saving your life.

Unlucky.


You already explained in your filter why the bolded doesn't make any sense.


? What


Ooops again. You posted earlier:
On January 19 2017 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
there's no way I'm mafia and divert the lynch off a town hapa onto an easy later mislynch ls -.-



Then subsequently after:
On January 19 2017 02:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2017 02:22 Holyflare wrote:
This is how I see it:

Vivax switches to hapa and hapa becomes leading wagon.

Myself and damdred exclaim how ls is a good lynch because of his contradictions and stances on me/hapa and how ls was voting me.

I don't think it's opportune to vote LS at this point UNLESS hapa is mafia with damdred, which I'm not currently in the world of. I think it was just a good (obviously bad with hindsight) call out of inconsistent points. Thing I haven't checked is whether damdred jumped onto the ls wagon sheeping my points or whether he called them out at the same time.


Ah okay it was wayyyyyyyyyy after I already pointed out LS so yeah in retrospect not as great as I thought. Damdred returns, votes hapa when vivax switches. I call out some points on ls and damdred switches before I've got enough consensus to switch. At no point were myself or hapa a majority wagon though and there were 8 minutes to go. A hapa lynch seemed likely with consensus so it's plausible he switches to save but I'm not so sure when the LS points were pretty good.


I thought for some reason the second post was discounting the first.

That being said, you're presenting these facts as if you somehow "saved my life", when it's pretty far from the case.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=40
A quick read of page 40 makes it very clear that I wasn't in danger. BOTH Damdred AND Rels express their desire to lynch LS before you do. LS was dying no matter where you placed your vote at that time.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:47 GMT
#1330
How are you even representing that you had a big hand in the LS lynch? Damdred and Rels are on that way before you.

You weren't even the first vote. It was very clear what the thread sentiment was at the time you voted.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:48 GMT
#1331
On January 20 2017 04:46 Holyflare wrote:
You are crazy if you think at that point in the game you wouldn't have got lynched if I decided to pick you.


You are crazy or mafia if this is a serious opinion. I read that page.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:50 GMT
#1334
On January 20 2017 04:37 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
I wasn't around when onegu was and slam was the latest post on the page, what's next?

Also how did rels post the martyr thing first? That's a lie. I called out his posts and added him to The List™ and then rels did so afterwards.

Nice try though. I'm biding my time on onegu.



He knows I turn it on in lylo.


Or he's not taking his read on you seriously.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:50 GMT
#1335
On January 20 2017 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
What the hell damdred and rels? Are you kidding me? We lynched ls because I said so.


LOL WHAT.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:58 GMT
#1346
12:13 EST. You want to kill me, and you will never budge from your vote.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=39#763

12:15 EST. Vivax Votes me
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=39#772

12:17 EST. Damdred Sheep.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=39#780

You do not have any anti-LS posts in this gap.

12:20 EST. Rels suggests LS lynch.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=40#790

12:20 EST. Holyflare says "die bitch" in reference to killing me (hapa)

12:21 EST. Damdred "scum LS detected"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=40#797

12:21. Holyflare "I will switch to LS so I can torment hapa some more"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=40#800

[b]12:23. Damdred calls LS scum for holyflare vote.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=41#807

12:23. Rels makes the call to swing on LS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=41#809

[b]12:24. Holyflare votes LS, citing that he read my scumgames.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=41#811


The idea you can take credit for the LS lynch is absurd.
The idea that you can have read my scumgames and made a decision not to lynch me in a span of 3 minutes is also absurd.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 19:59 GMT
#1347
##Vote Holyflare

For emphasis.
The idea that you can have read my scumgames and made a decision not to lynch me in a span of 3 minutes is also absurd.


Screaming "LOL MISREP" doesn't make a case. Displaying how you were clearly taking credit for an LS lynch you had little responsibility for post by post, and showing how your vote siwtch off me is bonkers is a case.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 20:00 GMT
#1348
If I have to die first, whatever.

I guarenfucking-tee you that the mafia team is HF/Onegu.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 20:02 GMT
#1352
Yes, because saying "die bitch" to me = you pushing the LS wagon.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 20:07 GMT
#1355
You threw a bunch of shit on LS at the last minute. You didn't make that call. Rels and Damdred did. You just tagged along with thread sentiment.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 20:25 GMT
#1360
11:23 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=35#691

11:32 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=35#695

11:33 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=35#697

11:35 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=35#699

11:41 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=36#706

11:44 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=36#709

11:44 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=36#710

11:49 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=36#714

11:50 - Link me your scumgames Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=36#716

12:02 - REALLY Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=37#733

12:07 - "Why is no one talking about LS?"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=38#741[/b]

12:09 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=38#748

12:10 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=38#750

12:11 - "Talk to me LS"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=38#754

12:12 - Lynch Hapa
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=39#763

12:13 - LS is Hapa's mafia partner
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=39#773

12:17 - Hapa association theory with LS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=40#781

12:20 EST. "Die bitch"

(After this, Rels and Damdred begin pushing for the LS lynch). Read page 40 and it's pretty clear.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 20:28 GMT
#1363
Holyflare story:

Rels and Damdred sheeped my case on LS which led to his lynch. Therefore I saved Hapa.


This is a huge misrepresentation of what happened.

You can see from the posts above.
1) Holyflare is all abord the Lynch Hapa train.
2) Holyflare points out that LS has been sitting back and doing nothing.
3) Holyflare entertains ideas that LS is my mafia partner.
4) at 12:20 EST, Holyflare doubles down on lynching me.
5) Rels and Damdred support a LS lynch.
6) After this, HF switches.

This makes it very clear that while HF pointed out what LS was doing, it was clear he was not pushing the LS lynch (his priority was me) until it was very clear that Rels and Damdred were going to LS with their votes.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 19 2017 20:30 GMT
#1365
I'll make this easy on you all.

a) You lynch me.
b) I flip confirmed town.
c) You lynch Onegu and Holyflare back to back.

hapaout

##Vote Hapahauli
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