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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 04:43:39
January 14 2017 04:43 GMT
#39
/in

Huge activity disclaimer though.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 17:33 GMT
#59
Wait... JAT won this shit last time? Oh hell no, I'll need to tryhard.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 17:44 GMT
#61
JAT is clearly not an A+ player, and we do not deserve this nonsense.

##Vote: JustAnotherTownie

How's it going Damdred?

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 17:55 GMT
#62
No response 10 minutes ded forum
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:05 GMT
#66
Sound 10/10 logic

##Vote LightningStrike
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:09 GMT
#69
On January 16 2017 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
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On January 16 2017 03:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Sound 10/10 logic

##Vote LightningStrike

............


Don't take it personally LS. I'm just voting for your execution.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:12 GMT
#72
Chairman Ray disagrees with your logic.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:15 GMT
#74
On January 16 2017 03:10 LightningStrike wrote:
TBH though if Damdred keeps pushing all of Day 1 and thinks I scum then he pretty much will claim scum just fyi since he normally can read me well.


Damdred, is this accurate?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:18 GMT
#76
I am tense. I took my first yoga class yesterday and my shoulders are fucking killing me.

It's like I have a knot within a knot on another knot.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:22 GMT
#77
Since you can't read my shoulders from your computer screen, what gives you the impression that I'm tense?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:27 GMT
#79
On January 16 2017 03:22 Vivax wrote:
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On January 16 2017 03:18 Hapahauli wrote:
I am tense. I took my first yoga class yesterday and my shoulders are fucking killing me.

It's like I have a knot within a knot on another knot.


So you're trying to remodel yourself into a rubberband?

I was mostly alluding to you being psychologically tense though.


I don't think I"m psychologically tense.

However, there are a lot of mixed emotions coming back and playing my first game in a year and a half. That feeling of constantly looking forward to the next new post is nostalgic. I also know in the back of my mind how much I burned out from playing, and that I'm going to to have to manage my compulsive posting tendencies much better this game.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:28 GMT
#81
But yes, I'm trying to model myself into a more bendy person. It's been over a decade since I last touched my toes
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:31 GMT
#83
On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
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On January 16 2017 03:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Since you can't read my shoulders from your computer screen, what gives you the impression that I'm tense?


Your posts give me the impression that you sit in front of the computer screen with an attitude like "alright, I'm here, I need to do something, fucking give me something to do already".


Bingo. I don't think that's tense though. It's a well-established part of my game to get people talking, even if I have to force the shit out of things.

I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now

Why scummy? Cause as scum posting early you'd be like. "What? Now I'm here to put in effort I don't have to actually put in and nobody's here?" and then you jump at things in a bit of an exaggerated manner to compensate for that.


You can think what you like, but you know the solution to reading me is pretty simple. Either I keep up with my try-harding (and I'm town), or my activity drops off like a cliff (and I'm mafia). I'm self-aware of this tell for sure, but I haven't been able to fix it.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:46 GMT
#86
On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Since you can't read my shoulders from your computer screen, what gives you the impression that I'm tense?


Your posts give me the impression that you sit in front of the computer screen with an attitude like "alright, I'm here, I need to do something, fucking give me something to do already".

I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now

Why scummy? Cause as scum posting early you'd be like. "What? Now I'm here to put in effort I don't have to actually put in and nobody's here?" and then you jump at things in a bit of an exaggerated manner to compensate for that.


Actually, I find this analysis pretty weird, as well as the timing of it.

Your posts give me the impression that you sit in front of the computer screen with an attitude like "alright, I'm here, I need to do something, fucking give me something to do already".


I don't understand why this is a mafia tell. What makes it more likely to come from mafia then town? Also, what does the bolded thought process make more sense with: Town-Hapa or Mafia-Hapa?

I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now


It's pointless to bring it up if you have no conclusion about it. "I found that sort of kind of maybe possibly scummy but don't hold me accountable for it because I'm still thinking" isn't a very good or townie thought process.

Why scummy? Cause as scum posting early you'd be like. "What? Now I'm here to put in effort I don't have to actually put in and nobody's here?" and then you jump at things in a bit of an exaggerated manner to compensate for that.


This doesn't make much sense to me. What about my play is exaggerated? Any posts in particular? It's just a very weird adjective to be using when all early-game banter is inherently forced.

##Vote Vivax
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:48 GMT
#88
On January 16 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
I think Vivax might be town for his questioning onto Hapa or at least trying to draw a conclusion with his posts towards Hapa.


Not really.

If Vivax just came out and said: "How hapa is behaving is scummy" - I'd be totally OK with that.

But he goes:
On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
...
I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now
...


Which is very "ewwww".
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:54 GMT
#91
On January 16 2017 03:51 Vivax wrote:
whoa Hapa coming out with the big guns =O. Why so quick to jump the gun here? Seems a bit overreactive.


Why not? I think what you did is scummy. I'm calling it out.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 19:01 GMT
#93
Sure. A town thought process is straightforward.

I think "x" is mafia because "reasons."
I think "post" is scummy because "reasons."

This was not the thought process here.

On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
...
I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now
...

This isn't straightforward. You find what I was doing "sort of scummy", but immediately discredit your own observation by stating that "you're still ruminating."

This very round-about thought process is scummy.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 19:11 GMT
#95
Your attempt at diplomacy bores me.

Why do you like that Vivax drew his conclusion if you thought it was weird?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 19:28 GMT
#100
On January 16 2017 04:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 04:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Sure. A town thought process is straightforward.

I think "x" is mafia because "reasons."
I think "post" is scummy because "reasons."

This was not the thought process here.

On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
...
I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now
...

This isn't straightforward. You find what I was doing "sort of scummy", but immediately discredit your own observation by stating that "you're still ruminating."

This very round-about thought process is scummy.


Nah it just feels too early for me to jump to definite conclusions based on a single observation. Your attitude back then could also be explained from a townie point of view, and ultimately I'm not going to make a decision on your alignment just based on that single point as I don't feel it already warrants a scumread. You looked pretty cramped and I explained why I thought it was slightly more likely to come from scum.

Or in a nutshell: I don't reason in absolutes. And I don't think you are right that only town reasons in absolutes. I can mention points that catch my interest without them necessarily leading to a confident conclusion.


You're missing my point.

"X post is scummy" isn't absolute reasoning. I don't care about what the reasoning is. The point is that the statement is direct. The statement is clear. It has a straightforward objective. Town have no reason to hide, and every reason to communicate clearly about their intentions.

There's very little point in announcing "this post may be suspicious". It's indirect. It is unclear. What exactly is the objective of announcing something you aren't sure about?

On January 16 2017 04:16 Vivax wrote:
My turn:

Why ask me about my meta read on you if the jist of all your points put together is that I discredited my own point?


I don't think the meta point would have led to any good conversation. I'd rather you address the part of your post I considered scummy than something I considered more non-alignment indicative.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 19:36 GMT
#103
On January 16 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 04:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Your attempt at diplomacy bores me.

Why do you like that Vivax drew his conclusion if you thought it was weird?


I liked the process of reading what you were doing and making a remark on how it affected his thought on you. It was remarkably high level compared to what I'm used to seeing recently.


So do you find Vivax's post weird for the reason I posted out? Ot because it is higher-level than what you're used to seeing? Or something else?
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