• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:40
CEST 19:40
KST 02:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 298Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!0Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back3BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion7BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion7Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back Is the larve respawn broken? Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format
Tourneys
GSL CK #5 Race War WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4183 users

Liquidmania Qualifier #2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 11 12 13 Next All
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 04:43:39
January 14 2017 04:43 GMT
#39
/in

Huge activity disclaimer though.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 17:33 GMT
#59
Wait... JAT won this shit last time? Oh hell no, I'll need to tryhard.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 17:44 GMT
#61
JAT is clearly not an A+ player, and we do not deserve this nonsense.

##Vote: JustAnotherTownie

How's it going Damdred?

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 17:55 GMT
#62
No response 10 minutes ded forum
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:05 GMT
#66
Sound 10/10 logic

##Vote LightningStrike
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:09 GMT
#69
On January 16 2017 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Sound 10/10 logic

##Vote LightningStrike

............


Don't take it personally LS. I'm just voting for your execution.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:12 GMT
#72
Chairman Ray disagrees with your logic.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:15 GMT
#74
On January 16 2017 03:10 LightningStrike wrote:
TBH though if Damdred keeps pushing all of Day 1 and thinks I scum then he pretty much will claim scum just fyi since he normally can read me well.


Damdred, is this accurate?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:18 GMT
#76
I am tense. I took my first yoga class yesterday and my shoulders are fucking killing me.

It's like I have a knot within a knot on another knot.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:22 GMT
#77
Since you can't read my shoulders from your computer screen, what gives you the impression that I'm tense?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:27 GMT
#79
On January 16 2017 03:22 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:18 Hapahauli wrote:
I am tense. I took my first yoga class yesterday and my shoulders are fucking killing me.

It's like I have a knot within a knot on another knot.


So you're trying to remodel yourself into a rubberband?

I was mostly alluding to you being psychologically tense though.


I don't think I"m psychologically tense.

However, there are a lot of mixed emotions coming back and playing my first game in a year and a half. That feeling of constantly looking forward to the next new post is nostalgic. I also know in the back of my mind how much I burned out from playing, and that I'm going to to have to manage my compulsive posting tendencies much better this game.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:28 GMT
#81
But yes, I'm trying to model myself into a more bendy person. It's been over a decade since I last touched my toes
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:31 GMT
#83
On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Since you can't read my shoulders from your computer screen, what gives you the impression that I'm tense?


Your posts give me the impression that you sit in front of the computer screen with an attitude like "alright, I'm here, I need to do something, fucking give me something to do already".


Bingo. I don't think that's tense though. It's a well-established part of my game to get people talking, even if I have to force the shit out of things.

I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now

Why scummy? Cause as scum posting early you'd be like. "What? Now I'm here to put in effort I don't have to actually put in and nobody's here?" and then you jump at things in a bit of an exaggerated manner to compensate for that.


You can think what you like, but you know the solution to reading me is pretty simple. Either I keep up with my try-harding (and I'm town), or my activity drops off like a cliff (and I'm mafia). I'm self-aware of this tell for sure, but I haven't been able to fix it.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:46 GMT
#86
On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 03:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Since you can't read my shoulders from your computer screen, what gives you the impression that I'm tense?


Your posts give me the impression that you sit in front of the computer screen with an attitude like "alright, I'm here, I need to do something, fucking give me something to do already".

I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now

Why scummy? Cause as scum posting early you'd be like. "What? Now I'm here to put in effort I don't have to actually put in and nobody's here?" and then you jump at things in a bit of an exaggerated manner to compensate for that.


Actually, I find this analysis pretty weird, as well as the timing of it.

Your posts give me the impression that you sit in front of the computer screen with an attitude like "alright, I'm here, I need to do something, fucking give me something to do already".


I don't understand why this is a mafia tell. What makes it more likely to come from mafia then town? Also, what does the bolded thought process make more sense with: Town-Hapa or Mafia-Hapa?

I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now


It's pointless to bring it up if you have no conclusion about it. "I found that sort of kind of maybe possibly scummy but don't hold me accountable for it because I'm still thinking" isn't a very good or townie thought process.

Why scummy? Cause as scum posting early you'd be like. "What? Now I'm here to put in effort I don't have to actually put in and nobody's here?" and then you jump at things in a bit of an exaggerated manner to compensate for that.


This doesn't make much sense to me. What about my play is exaggerated? Any posts in particular? It's just a very weird adjective to be using when all early-game banter is inherently forced.

##Vote Vivax
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:48 GMT
#88
On January 16 2017 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:
I think Vivax might be town for his questioning onto Hapa or at least trying to draw a conclusion with his posts towards Hapa.


Not really.

If Vivax just came out and said: "How hapa is behaving is scummy" - I'd be totally OK with that.

But he goes:
On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
...
I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now
...


Which is very "ewwww".
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 18:54 GMT
#91
On January 16 2017 03:51 Vivax wrote:
whoa Hapa coming out with the big guns =O. Why so quick to jump the gun here? Seems a bit overreactive.


Why not? I think what you did is scummy. I'm calling it out.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 19:01 GMT
#93
Sure. A town thought process is straightforward.

I think "x" is mafia because "reasons."
I think "post" is scummy because "reasons."

This was not the thought process here.

On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
...
I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now
...

This isn't straightforward. You find what I was doing "sort of scummy", but immediately discredit your own observation by stating that "you're still ruminating."

This very round-about thought process is scummy.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 19:11 GMT
#95
Your attempt at diplomacy bores me.

Why do you like that Vivax drew his conclusion if you thought it was weird?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 19:28 GMT
#100
On January 16 2017 04:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 04:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Sure. A town thought process is straightforward.

I think "x" is mafia because "reasons."
I think "post" is scummy because "reasons."

This was not the thought process here.

On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
...
I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now
...

This isn't straightforward. You find what I was doing "sort of scummy", but immediately discredit your own observation by stating that "you're still ruminating."

This very round-about thought process is scummy.


Nah it just feels too early for me to jump to definite conclusions based on a single observation. Your attitude back then could also be explained from a townie point of view, and ultimately I'm not going to make a decision on your alignment just based on that single point as I don't feel it already warrants a scumread. You looked pretty cramped and I explained why I thought it was slightly more likely to come from scum.

Or in a nutshell: I don't reason in absolutes. And I don't think you are right that only town reasons in absolutes. I can mention points that catch my interest without them necessarily leading to a confident conclusion.


You're missing my point.

"X post is scummy" isn't absolute reasoning. I don't care about what the reasoning is. The point is that the statement is direct. The statement is clear. It has a straightforward objective. Town have no reason to hide, and every reason to communicate clearly about their intentions.

There's very little point in announcing "this post may be suspicious". It's indirect. It is unclear. What exactly is the objective of announcing something you aren't sure about?

On January 16 2017 04:16 Vivax wrote:
My turn:

Why ask me about my meta read on you if the jist of all your points put together is that I discredited my own point?


I don't think the meta point would have led to any good conversation. I'd rather you address the part of your post I considered scummy than something I considered more non-alignment indicative.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 15 2017 19:36 GMT
#103
On January 16 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 04:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Your attempt at diplomacy bores me.

Why do you like that Vivax drew his conclusion if you thought it was weird?


I liked the process of reading what you were doing and making a remark on how it affected his thought on you. It was remarkably high level compared to what I'm used to seeing recently.


So do you find Vivax's post weird for the reason I posted out? Ot because it is higher-level than what you're used to seeing? Or something else?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
1 2 3 4 5 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 16h 20m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 2682
UpATreeSC 90
RushiSC 32
MindelVK 31
IndyStarCraft 7
mouzHeroMarine 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4953
Sea 1319
Soulkey 367
firebathero 253
Free 41
Killer 32
Hm[arnc] 24
Rock 20
Bale 18
NaDa 12
[ Show more ]
Shine 7
Dota 2
Gorgc7320
League of Legends
KnowMe75
Counter-Strike
fl0m1433
FalleN 1107
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0142
Other Games
singsing1797
ceh9420
byalli206
Livibee85
Trikslyr43
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2696
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV497
Other Games
BasetradeTV258
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 20
• Reevou 6
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4361
• TFBlade1229
Other Games
• imaqtpie1187
• Shiphtur368
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
16h 20m
Replay Cast
1d 15h
CrankTV Team League
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.