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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 13 2017 06:56 GMT
#1461
##Vote:BostonSC Btw
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
January 13 2017 07:58 GMT
#1462
Vote Count

B0stonSC (5) : Damdred, Calix, Onegu, Kmatt, darthfoley
Onegu (1) : reps)squishy, ika42
Calix (1) : ika42

Not voting (1) : B0stonSC

Currently, B0stonSC is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Saturday, Jan 14 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), about 16 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread.

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ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 12:18 GMT
#1463
Finally off overnights till Sunday.

I briefly read up and I'm gonna address the quick thing that I saw that calix mentioned

Calix, you yourself has said you have played very little in the mylo/mylo (cus you did so much) I have played more then I can enjoy so seeing how votes are not locked and there's no majority I am considering all options right now. I mean if bos is town, gg.

If he's scum it's clear someone is bussing cus we have a 4v3 situation and you have to realize yourself that not everyone voting can be town at this point. So I'm scum hunting for the person who is bussing. That includes you
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 12:19 GMT
#1464
Now I'm gonna go to sleep I should be around to move my vote before eod
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 12:25 GMT
#1465
Wait nvm I missed who was on wagon already.

Basicly though if I or anyone adds their vote it's garenteed someone is scum
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 13 2017 13:56 GMT
#1466
On January 13 2017 21:25 ika42 wrote:
Wait nvm I missed who was on wagon already.

Basicly though if I or anyone adds their vote it's garenteed someone is scum


What does this even mean?
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 13 2017 14:59 GMT
#1467
It's almost like a scum claim.

Like if ika knows her town he never says if I (or anyone) move my vote to Boston we are guaranteed someone on it is scum.

Right now if he knows he is town than someone on thw wagon already is guaranteed scum, unless he slipped admitting everyone off wagon is scum.
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 16:08 GMT
#1468
On January 13 2017 22:56 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2017 21:25 ika42 wrote:
Wait nvm I missed who was on wagon already.

Basicly though if I or anyone adds their vote it's garenteed someone is scum


What does this even mean?


to batter expalin

anyone not onn the wagon knows there is at least one scum in the trio (scince matt is uncontested). to anyone on the wagon, one could argue that veeryone is town on the wagon

so in essence, me (or rep for that matter) adding ym vote makes everyone know there must be one scum in the tri of voters (again not counting self and matt at that point)

hence why i have been weary of the wagon
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 16:10 GMT
#1469
On January 13 2017 23:59 Damdred wrote:
It's almost like a scum claim.

Like if ika knows her town he never says if I (or anyone) move my vote to Boston we are guaranteed someone on it is scum.

Right now if he knows he is town than someone on thw wagon already is guaranteed scum, unless he slipped admitting everyone off wagon is scum.


if i was scum with B0 he would of been dead on day 1 and i would of killed someone like kmatt (for when i pointed out the townslip) or calix n1

you would also have to account that i somehow have fooled SW all this time.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 13 2017 16:24 GMT
#1470
On January 14 2017 01:10 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2017 23:59 Damdred wrote:
It's almost like a scum claim.

Like if ika knows her town he never says if I (or anyone) move my vote to Boston we are guaranteed someone on it is scum.

Right now if he knows he is town than someone on thw wagon already is guaranteed scum, unless he slipped admitting everyone off wagon is scum.


if i was scum with B0 he would of been dead on day 1 and i would of killed someone like kmatt (for when i pointed out the townslip) or calix n1

you would also have to account that i somehow have fooled SW all this time.


lol almost all your defenses so far have been WIFOM "I would have done XYZ differently" which literally anyone can say
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 13 2017 16:25 GMT
#1471
On January 13 2017 12:31 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2017 03:21 Damdred wrote:
I got to think about it for a few about ika. Like he has some red flags I think, but then he has this interaction when I entered the game to try to get some form of read going maybe? not much comes of it though as he doesn't really talk about me much but now i'm in his top three.

DF is also interesting as he ust throws out about ika and dissapears again. goign outside then will be back


Nah i've just had a busy day. Grad school apps and whatnot. I've added a spoiler to this so it's easier to read for some people *cough Calix cough*

+ Show Spoiler +
My suspicion of an associative read between scum!B0ston and scum!ika lies mainly within what I consider to be an odd read progression

On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled

1) reps)squishy - null
2) Kmatt -null
3) MichaelEhrmantraut -null
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - newb town

Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean

i have way too many nulls for my liking overall.


Original read = newb town

Followed by this odd sentence

On January 08 2017 03:06 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 02:56 SilverWolf77 wrote:
I'm dismayed that so few people are actually here and playing or that people are here and then they leave for extended periods of time. It makes the game very difficult to play. Can everyone else who hasn't, give their top three scumreads or who they would be o.k. lynching today?


I would lynch in the Grackaroni/KelsierSC/B0stonSC/Vivax pool right now



It is very weird for him to lump a town read in with all of these other reads that are null or scum leans. Like, it doesn't make any sense logically. Could easily be an attempt at minor shade throwing early

B0ston starts getting a lot of heat, SW and Calix get paranoid about the sudden attention on B0ston... it's almost immediately followed by the SWika vs. Grack thing which blows the fuck up for like 4 pages. Ika and Grack are both stubborn, but something about it feels kinda of TvS in retrospect. This firestorm eventually leads to lots of people scum reading Grack to the point where Grack because the primary wagon with KSC as the counter wagon, rather than B0ston. This makes Grack claim... and the rest is history. Like everyone forgets about B0ston completely. Ika was also very adamant that Grack was scum (tbf, it wasn't just him so that's NAI).

During D2, there's this interesting interaction

On January 09 2017 05:03 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 04:58 Kmatt wrote:
So if we're all in agreement that BTDT is long overdue for being mounted on a fence post, who do you think among potential scum is up for the following vote? B0ston and ME are the obvious choices but like Calix said I can't help but think at least one of the mafia is actively mucking the thread up. Granted this guy has his work cut out for him at the moment.


I want ME dead. At best hes scum. at worst hes a town who needs to learn to play forum mafia.

I am being blunt on this issue too: if you cant get reads or dont like being pressure or stuff like that, then dont be here. This is a game of convincing and pressuring and talking. If you cant handle some heat, then you dont need to be in the kitchen.


I've reread ika's filter and ME goes from null to null scum, so this progression in and of itself isn't bad. It's more the complete lack attention to B0ston in response to this post, and the main reason he's scum reading ME is that he's in the kitchen and can't handle the heat. Ok m8. We obviously know now that ME was town + Show Spoiler +
RIP the GOAT
.

Ika doesn't directly interact with B0ston, or field a DIRECT question about B0ston from Jan 7 to Jan 10. And when he does, he interacts with B0ston about the impossibility of scum being a SWika team. For lots of players this might be NAI, but this dude talks about scum hunting in his meta, and has like 11 pages of filter. And he doesn't bring this guy's name up for over 3 days, and skirts around issues regarding him within these 3 days.

On January 11 2017 09:32 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2017 09:28 B0stonSC wrote:
I'm with SW on this one. Maybe ME should be the next on our list? He sure is high on mine.


why? werent you hesitant to joinn her earlier?

where are your own rreasons?

frankly i would rather lynch you/calix next


On January 11 2017 09:48 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2017 09:44 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 11 2017 09:32 ika42 wrote:
On January 11 2017 09:28 B0stonSC wrote:
I'm with SW on this one. Maybe ME should be the next on our list? He sure is high on mine.


why? werent you hesitant to joinn her earlier?

where are your own rreasons?

frankly i would rather lynch you/calix next


OK, explain scumread of B0ston and Calix.

Explain why you wouldn't lynch ME right now.


B0 came in at EOD witha drive by vote. calls you/me scum team eb scary and then 180s it to "ok lets join them on lynching ME"

calix has been overly passive to the point shes like subdued in here. I know multiple times she has said "RL" but i find her not actually pushing the game like she did in empire to be very concerning. not only that i feel like when it came to discussion about he NK she made a big stink about how its wifom. yes its wifom but i feel like she went over the top for it.

and for peoples refrence, last game she was a doctor and aggressive as shit.

i will lynch ME still


So he wants to lynch B0ston/Calix, but then settles on neither and puts a lot of pressure on ME. This shit doesn't make any logical sense from town POV imo.

And now, to conclude this damning case. Let's look at who Ika thinks is currently mafia

On January 12 2017 09:06 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2017 10:08 SilverWolf77 wrote:
What do people say to Calix, darthfoley, Onegu scumteam?



here it is,

at least one scum is gonna be in here. frankly i would not be surprised if its all 3 right now

im waiting on kmatt though becasue hes still an uncontested vig and i want to hear his thoughts


Calix already pointed this out, and it didn't sit will with me either. He completely parrots SW's scum team without her explaining anything. Notice now that he doesn't have B0ston in it, after "wanting to lynch him" like 5 posts ago?

He's also made shit up and been called out on it by someone (either Calix or Onegu I think) and myself with this post

On January 12 2017 09:41 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 09:26 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 09:21 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 09:12 Damdred wrote:
On January 12 2017 09:08 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 12 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also squishy is that all really alignment indicative? Sheeping isn't necessarily just something mafia or town does right?

It is NAI on its own. But if you connect the dots that he does not lead or push his own reads; it makes me feel weird. Since you are not seeing eye to eye with me it may just be my gut telling me then. But I feel he is trying to fly below the radar, and be another number in these townie lynches, rather than make his own arguments and risk being questioned.


I'm nto sure, sheeping isn't necessarily a scummy trait or following someone you think is town.

What do you think about his postings during hte night so far? Don't see any town indicators in it?


I believe his night posts were NAI

Anyway although I think DF is scummy, Onegu is my main read and I think it is way worse letting him go under the radar so
##Vote: Onegu


Would you really want to risk the game killing onegu today and him being town? Like I understand frustration with someone not really playing that much. But i'm not sure if him not necessarily playing in this situation is super indicative.



even so viv suspected him and then he died... SW suspected him and then he died....


I looked through Vivax's filter and it's just not true. His response,

On January 12 2017 09:49 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 09:45 darthfoley wrote:
wait Vivax never reads Onegu as scum. He town leans him


I though he read him as scum? I'll have to run a filther later


Never does!

Vivax made the point at the time I believe, and Kmatt later, that they had a feeling an active scum is mucking up the thread/looking in all the wrong places. I'm starting to really think they're right and that it's ika. His post quality has deteriorated significantly since earlier on. Come to think of it, before I read his filter through, I could only remember him being 12 feet up Grack's ass for no reason, and then causing ME to ragequit modkill. It's not just that he's been wrong; it's that he's successfully tilted like three town players (Grack, Vivax, ME) for basically no legitimate reasons. Honestly by D3 that's not good enough when you're self described meta is Boba Fett the Scumhunter.


I know this is speculative association, but I'm pretty sure B0ston is going to flip scum and I think there's a good chance i'll die at night, so I want to make this case before that happens. I'll look at reps in more detail tomorrow morning




in case you missed it on the last page
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 13 2017 16:26 GMT
#1472
like idk how you can expect anyone to just believe you that you would've killed your scummate D1 when there was a TvT claim/cc going on
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 13 2017 16:34 GMT
#1473
On January 14 2017 01:26 darthfoley wrote:
like idk how you can expect anyone to just believe you that you would've killed your scummate D1 when there was a TvT claim/cc going on


Mind meld.

ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 17:26 GMT
#1474
On January 14 2017 01:26 darthfoley wrote:
like idk how you can expect anyone to just believe you that you would've killed your scummate D1 when there was a TvT claim/cc going on


i dont, i dont care anymore either

go ahead and lynch me next. im tied, im demotivated. i have no intrest in the gaem after alll the shit that has been done.

its clear your scum but i dont have the carisma nor motivation nor time to do otherwise
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 17:27 GMT
#1475
oh the case is about logic.

well news flash: i dont care for logic and never will
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 13 2017 17:37 GMT
#1476
sick!
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 13 2017 17:38 GMT
#1477
the omgus and wifom are real
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 17:54 GMT
#1478
On January 14 2017 02:38 darthfoley wrote:
the omgus and wifom are real


yup.

i mean calix could really say about the me not wanting to kill SW part at last but she will go "its WIFOM"

do you have anything else to say or not?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 13 2017 18:11 GMT
#1479
dude i wrote an entire case on you, I don't have anything else to say lol.

It's just funny how you were mad at Grack and ME for losing motivation and losing their patience, and now the shoe is on the other foot and you're holier than thou about it
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 13 2017 18:34 GMT
#1480
Just show us why the others are scum ika you are like the third lynch right now....its not like everyone is sold exactly just explain why calix or darth are scum.
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