My suspicion of an associative read between scum!B0ston and scum!ika lies mainly within what I consider to be an odd read progression
On January 07 2017 10:02 ika42 wrote:
so now that im caught up heres my read list that i have compiled
1) reps)squishy - null
2) Kmatt -null
3) MichaelEhrmantraut -null
4) ika42 -town
5) SilverWolf77 - town
6) B0stonSC - newb town
Vets
1) beentheredonethat - null
2) Grackaroni- null
3) KelsierSC - scum
4) Onegu - claims VT
5) darthfoley - town lean
6) Calix -null
7) Vivax - scum lean
i have way too many nulls for my liking overall.
Original read = newb town
Followed by this odd sentence
On January 08 2017 03:06 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 02:56 SilverWolf77 wrote:
I'm dismayed that so few people are actually here and playing or that people are here and then they leave for extended periods of time. It makes the game very difficult to play. Can everyone else who hasn't, give their top three scumreads or who they would be o.k. lynching today?
I would lynch in the Grackaroni/KelsierSC/
B0stonSC/Vivax pool right now
It is very weird for him to lump a town read in with all of these other reads that are null or scum leans. Like, it doesn't make any sense logically. Could easily be an attempt at minor shade throwing early
B0ston starts getting a lot of heat, SW and Calix get paranoid about the sudden attention on B0ston... it's almost immediately followed by the SWika vs. Grack thing which blows the fuck up for like 4 pages. Ika and Grack are both stubborn, but something about it feels kinda of TvS in retrospect. This firestorm eventually leads to lots of people scum reading Grack to the point where Grack because the primary wagon
with KSC as the counter wagon, rather than B0ston. This makes Grack claim... and the rest is history. Like everyone forgets about B0ston completely. Ika was also very adamant that Grack was scum (tbf, it wasn't just him so that's NAI).
During D2, there's this interesting interaction
On January 09 2017 05:03 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 04:58 Kmatt wrote:
So if we're all in agreement that BTDT is long overdue for being mounted on a fence post, who do you think among potential scum is up for the following vote? B0ston and ME are the obvious choices but like Calix said I can't help but think at least one of the mafia is actively mucking the thread up. Granted this guy has his work cut out for him at the moment.
I want ME dead. At best hes scum. at worst hes a town who needs to learn to play forum mafia.I am being blunt on this issue too: if you cant get reads or dont like being pressure or stuff like that, then dont be here. This is a game of convincing and pressuring and talking. If you cant handle some heat, then you dont need to be in the kitchen.
I've reread ika's filter and ME goes from null to null scum, so this progression in and of itself isn't bad. It's more the complete lack attention to B0ston in response to this post, and the main reason he's scum reading ME is that he's in the kitchen and can't handle the heat. Ok m8. We obviously know now that ME was town
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Ika doesn't directly interact with B0ston, or field a DIRECT question about B0ston from Jan 7 to Jan 10. And when he does, he interacts with B0ston about the impossibility of scum being a SWika team. For lots of players this might be NAI, but this dude talks about scum hunting in his meta, and has like 11 pages of filter. And he doesn't bring this guy's name up for over 3 days, and skirts around issues regarding him within these 3 days.
On January 11 2017 09:32 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 09:28 B0stonSC wrote:
I'm with SW on this one. Maybe ME should be the next on our list? He sure is high on mine.
why? werent you hesitant to joinn her earlier?
where are your own rreasons?
frankly i would rather lynch you/calix next On January 11 2017 09:48 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 09:44 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 11 2017 09:32 ika42 wrote:On January 11 2017 09:28 B0stonSC wrote:
I'm with SW on this one. Maybe ME should be the next on our list? He sure is high on mine.
why? werent you hesitant to joinn her earlier?
where are your own rreasons?
frankly i would rather lynch you/calix next
OK, explain scumread of B0ston and Calix.
Explain why you wouldn't lynch ME right now.
B0 came in at EOD witha drive by vote. calls you/me scum team eb scary and then 180s it to "ok lets join them on lynching ME"
calix has been overly passive to the point shes like subdued in here. I know multiple times she has said "RL" but i find her not actually pushing the game like she did in empire to be very concerning. not only that i feel like when it came to discussion about he NK she made a big stink about how its wifom. yes its wifom but i feel like she went over the top for it.
and for peoples refrence, last game she was a doctor and aggressive as shit.
i will lynch ME still So he wants to lynch B0ston/Calix, but then settles on neither and puts a lot of pressure on ME. This shit doesn't make any logical sense from town POV imo.
And now, to conclude this damning case. Let's look at who Ika thinks is currently mafia
On January 12 2017 09:06 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 10:08 SilverWolf77 wrote:
What do people say to Calix, darthfoley, Onegu scumteam?
here it is,
at least one scum is gonna be in here. frankly i would not be surprised if its all 3 right nowim waiting on kmatt though becasue hes still an uncontested vig and i want to hear his thoughts
Calix already pointed this out, and it didn't sit will with me either. He completely parrots SW's scum team without her explaining anything. Notice now that he doesn't have B0ston in it, after "wanting to lynch him" like 5 posts ago?
He's also made shit up and been called out on it by someone (either Calix or Onegu I think) and myself with this post
On January 12 2017 09:41 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 09:26 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 09:21 reps)squishy wrote:On January 12 2017 09:12 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 09:08 reps)squishy wrote:On January 12 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also squishy is that all really alignment indicative? Sheeping isn't necessarily just something mafia or town does right?
It is NAI on its own. But if you connect the dots that he does not lead or push his own reads; it makes me feel weird. Since you are not seeing eye to eye with me it may just be my gut telling me then. But I feel he is trying to fly below the radar, and be another number in these townie lynches, rather than make his own arguments and risk being questioned.
I'm nto sure, sheeping isn't necessarily a scummy trait or following someone you think is town.
What do you think about his postings during hte night so far? Don't see any town indicators in it?
I believe his night posts were NAI
Anyway although I think DF is scummy, Onegu is my main read and I think it is way worse letting him go under the radar so
##Vote: Onegu Would you really want to risk the game killing onegu today and him being town? Like I understand frustration with someone not really playing that much. But i'm not sure if him not necessarily playing in this situation is super indicative.
even so viv suspected him and then he died... SW suspected him and then he died....
I looked through Vivax's filter and it's just not true. His response,
On January 12 2017 09:49 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 09:45 darthfoley wrote:
wait Vivax never reads Onegu as scum. He town leans him
I though he read him as scum? I'll have to run a filther later
Never does!
Vivax made the point at the time I believe, and Kmatt later, that they had a feeling an active scum is mucking up the thread/looking in all the wrong places. I'm starting to really think they're right and that it's ika. His post quality has deteriorated significantly since earlier on. Come to think of it, before I read his filter through, I could only remember him being 12 feet up Grack's ass for no reason, and then causing ME to ragequit modkill. It's not just that he's been wrong; it's that he's successfully tilted like three town players (Grack, Vivax, ME) for basically no legitimate reasons. Honestly by D3 that's not good enough when you're self described meta is Boba Fett the Scumhunter.
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