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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 12 2017 11:43 GMT
#1421
Boston should have been the day 1 lynch I need to go back and look who said it was a bad lynch and was filling up to fast.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 16:31 GMT
#1422
On January 12 2017 18:52 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 12:00 Damdred wrote:
I just think that calix is town here and i'm unsure what to make of whats goign to happen today. Like I don't think anyone is going to cc Kmatt and I probably wouldn't believe Boston at this point since hes the only one who hasn't been in thread today. I am going to sleep early and shoudl be back to actually scum hunt. But looking at the vote count makes me feel a bit strange, like squish has to be scum if boston is scum and that would be a weird mylo at the end. anyway be back


Does it feel weird because Boston is the leading wagon? Because I was thinking about whether that was AI and I came back empty-handed.

If he's town then it's pretty simple, the scum are happily letting him get MLed.

If he's scum then it gets messy. For starters, we have only lynched among the counter-claimers so there's little to be gleaned from VCA on both days. So you can't infer whether the Boston wagon progression on D1 means a lot since that was the only time that he was at risk of being lynched and you can't see if anyone was making an effort to subtly deflect off Boston the following days.

Also hard to tell much from the votes since the main suspect is MIA, the other suspect is voting for the guy he's been scum-reading for the past few cycles and everyone else agrees that both of them are scummy. If those two are on a team (which is possible interactions-wise) then there isn't going to be a lot of resistance to them dying since the third guy is more likely to bus hard and try to stick it out in a 4v2/ 3v1 than risk going down on a sinking ship.

In short, there's not enough information to know what the situation is.

Did Boston even turn up during the night phase?


Like right now i'm not super sold on Onegu or kmatt being super lock town. So yeah i'm going to be a little meh, which if ika is town (which I think so at least) we need to convince him that going elsewhere is a horrible way to play mylo.

You know D1 lynch was interesting though because everyone jumped on grack but nobody even really looked at btdt like i really want to look at that vote real fast before i say why its interesting. Ill be back.

But i still think boston is the best lynch so far.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 16:39 GMT
#1423
Like I love hedging btw, i think its one of my great flaws in a mafia game.

I have this long spill about why Kmatt could be scum fake claiming, but the simplest answer is hes a newb that did a bad thing and now we are in this situation.

Which btw would take an extraordinary amount of balls to pull off the play Kmatt did. To claim a shot on vivax when he could get cc by another vig or a cop. (If boston is the cop here i'm really dissapointed he didn't claim d2 with a check and basically a red check on kmatt). Which basically means that Kmatt is confirmed at this point and we really shouldn't even think about CC in this situation as they really do not matter overall.

Kmatt play doesn't make total sense but town is more likely to make calculated gambles/mistakes on weird reasoning than scum who likes to have things just so and neat.

So yeah
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 12 2017 16:45 GMT
#1424
lol there's no way Kmatt is scum fake claiming vigi because the real vig or the cop would have come out by now and we would have a somewhat easy cc battle

It's pointless to talk about him tbh
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 16:47 GMT
#1425
On January 12 2017 17:24 ika42 wrote:
I don't see much of a reason to overall.

I mean from your and my pov we know there must be one scum in the dam/calix/1g grouping

So I'm weary of just voting there outright to begin with. Will I prob
Vote it in the end? Yes

I just don't have much motivation right now


I'm not so sure if there is one scum in that grouping at all though. The fight between you and calix just screams t v t right now, both of you are a bit BM to an extent. And honestly what do you think about B0ston that hes town? You would have to believe that if you 100% go with the list that was left.

But why when there is actually good evidence to the contrary you are sort of ignoring at this juncture?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 16:49 GMT
#1426
On January 13 2017 01:45 darthfoley wrote:
lol there's no way Kmatt is scum fake claiming vigi because the real vig or the cop would have come out by now and we would have a somewhat easy cc battle

It's pointless to talk about him tbh


Eh not to pointless to talk out my thoughts in thread tbh, if i was the cop (which i'm not) I would of 100% waited for my second check to reveal adn basically have a solved game. ME sort of would of messed that plan up though.

In any case i don't think Kmatt would do such a risky play, hes just a bit underwhelming i suppose and if he did fake claim he did really good at it, especially claiming rb today i suppose.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 12 2017 16:55 GMT
#1427
I feel like B0ston is just getting super bussed right now
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 12 2017 16:55 GMT
#1428
Like the guy hasn't posted in a long time. Maybe demotivated mafia not wanting to incriminate partners further? Hmmm, I'll need to reread his filter
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 16:57 GMT
#1429
Well lets say B0Ston flips scum who else do you think DF?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 12 2017 16:57 GMT
#1430
He did say he can't really play during the week much though

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the perfect excuse, for the perfect crime
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 12 2017 16:59 GMT
#1431
On January 13 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Like I love hedging btw, i think its one of my great flaws in a mafia game.

I have this long spill about why Kmatt could be scum fake claiming, but the simplest answer is hes a newb that did a bad thing and now we are in this situation.

Which btw would take an extraordinary amount of balls to pull off the play Kmatt did. To claim a shot on vivax when he could get cc by another vig or a cop. (If boston is the cop here i'm really dissapointed he didn't claim d2 with a check and basically a red check on kmatt). Which basically means that Kmatt is confirmed at this point and we really shouldn't even think about CC in this situation as they really do not matter overall.

Kmatt play doesn't make total sense but town is more likely to make calculated gambles/mistakes on weird reasoning than scum who likes to have things just so and neat.

So yeah



What bad thing? The claim or the shot?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 12 2017 16:59 GMT
#1432
On January 13 2017 01:57 Damdred wrote:
Well lets say B0Ston flips scum who else do you think DF?


If b0ston flips scum I think Onegu is probably town. Off the top of my head I think it would make me a lot more suspicious of ika and squishy. I think I remember a few interesting interactions between them
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 17:00 GMT
#1433
On January 13 2017 01:59 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Like I love hedging btw, i think its one of my great flaws in a mafia game.

I have this long spill about why Kmatt could be scum fake claiming, but the simplest answer is hes a newb that did a bad thing and now we are in this situation.

Which btw would take an extraordinary amount of balls to pull off the play Kmatt did. To claim a shot on vivax when he could get cc by another vig or a cop. (If boston is the cop here i'm really dissapointed he didn't claim d2 with a check and basically a red check on kmatt). Which basically means that Kmatt is confirmed at this point and we really shouldn't even think about CC in this situation as they really do not matter overall.

Kmatt play doesn't make total sense but town is more likely to make calculated gambles/mistakes on weird reasoning than scum who likes to have things just so and neat.

So yeah



What bad thing? The claim or the shot?


I think the shot was bad, the claim wasn't to bad it came within decent time and was reasonable besides the shot.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 17:07 GMT
#1434
Basically i'm in a spot where I have one to many town reads

B0ston I think is obvious, Squishy is the second I think.

The problem comes in on the third

Ika, Calix, Onegu, DF

I've excluded myself and Kmatt as I won't think about lynching either ^_-.

I think Onegu is the lynch of choice for mafia here unless some mega bussing is going on which probably just makes him town and mafia thought was an easy hit.

Ika kind of looks the weirdest just locking into the list and fighting iwth his scum read instead of trying to really convince the thread.

DF makes some decent posts and has good activity.

The problem lies all three of these people (calix, df and ika) have really good activity. The thing about Ika here is that not really wanting to switch to B0ston and the weird post about one scum inbetween onegu/Damdred/Calix when just before was thinking the scum team was exactly Calix/Onegu/DF I believe.

The more I think about it the more I don't like it, but first B0ston.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 12 2017 17:07 GMT
#1435
On January 12 2017 20:43 Onegu wrote:
Boston should have been the day 1 lynch I need to go back and look who said it was a bad lynch and was filling up to fast.


Off the top of my head, SW and I were the people who were wary of people jumping on Boston. BTDT came into the thread with a crappy wall-post on Boston that didn't actually show scum motivation and generally, people who try to find new reasons to vote a train that already has steam are scum trying to hide a bandwagon vote.

I also remember not liking reps' vote on Boston because it looked sheepy as hell and he hasn't followed up on the Boston read iirc.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 12 2017 17:12 GMT
#1436
On January 13 2017 01:47 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 17:24 ika42 wrote:
I don't see much of a reason to overall.

I mean from your and my pov we know there must be one scum in the dam/calix/1g grouping

So I'm weary of just voting there outright to begin with. Will I prob
Vote it in the end? Yes

I just don't have much motivation right now


I'm not so sure if there is one scum in that grouping at all though. The fight between you and calix just screams t v t right now, both of you are a bit BM to an extent. And honestly what do you think about B0ston that hes town? You would have to believe that if you 100% go with the list that was left.

But why when there is actually good evidence to the contrary you are sort of ignoring at this juncture?


To be honest, I was mostly pissed off at him sheeping his GF without any critical thinking. And I still don't think that makes any fucking sense but apparently everyone else seems to think there's nothing wrong there. idgi

It's also atrocious MYLO play but I know he isn't going to listen to me because "lol Calix's scum, won't consider anything she says" or whatever.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 12 2017 17:14 GMT
#1437
On January 13 2017 01:55 darthfoley wrote:
Like the guy hasn't posted in a long time. Maybe demotivated mafia not wanting to incriminate partners further? Hmmm, I'll need to reread his filter


In terms of activity, we should still lynch him. I don't want to fuck around with "but he might get modkilled" bullshit or risk him pulling a ritoky with a ninja vote, lol.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 12 2017 17:17 GMT
#1438
I read the Boston/ Onegu thing and I don't think it's SvS either. It's not "showy" enough imo for it to be a setup for Onegu getting all the town credz. Onegu just states his read and doesn't seem to have an agenda of trying to look good from it while Boston is put on the defensive.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 12 2017 17:25 GMT
#1439
Why does everyone have to fuck off the moment I get in here? lol
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 12 2017 17:28 GMT
#1440
I'm here now! just playing with my puppy mwhaha i'll be in and out for a bit though.

it makes onegu town. So that leave (to you) 3 of the most active people in the game as the last scum besides squishy what do you think about the ika stuff?
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