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MichaelEhrmantraut
Profile Joined December 2016
35 Posts
January 08 2017 18:20 GMT
#901
On January 09 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 02:23 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
I have something to add about B0ston. I don't know if this has been missed.

On January 08 2017 07:12 B0stonSC wrote:
Well that seems rather sorted. is Instalynch a thing on this site?


If you are town why would you want an instalynch when there's a CC ? I think that holds for a lot of other people too. And Grack was one of the most vocal people here.

On January 08 2017 21:00 Calix wrote:
Although ME's large post was good tone-wise, his actions are questionable especially with his vote and wanting to "hold it until EOD" (before voting for Grack) which makes no sense for town to do (it literally makes you harder to read - a non-town trait). There is no reason to do that just for a vote at the end of a large wagon on a counterclaimed person and the fact that he leaves it until the very end of the day means that he doesn't have to explain why he preferred Grack > BTDT or give us much information re: votes/ people he wants dead.


I wanted to hold it until EOD because i was reading through the posts, and to me Grack didn't look scum. I couldn't come up with anything conclusive about anyone else. And since you can't abstain here, I just voted. As such my one vote wasn't going to make any difference except give away information at that point.



Wait wtf.

Why are you concerned about "giving away information" with your votes if you're town?!

That's mafia rationale.

I don't agree with your assessment. I would've readily abstained if I was given the choice. You focus on the part that suits your argument the most.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 18:25 GMT
#902
ME-do you have any reads or anything on anyone?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 08 2017 18:27 GMT
#903
On January 09 2017 03:20 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:
On January 09 2017 02:23 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
I have something to add about B0ston. I don't know if this has been missed.

On January 08 2017 07:12 B0stonSC wrote:
Well that seems rather sorted. is Instalynch a thing on this site?


If you are town why would you want an instalynch when there's a CC ? I think that holds for a lot of other people too. And Grack was one of the most vocal people here.

On January 08 2017 21:00 Calix wrote:
Although ME's large post was good tone-wise, his actions are questionable especially with his vote and wanting to "hold it until EOD" (before voting for Grack) which makes no sense for town to do (it literally makes you harder to read - a non-town trait). There is no reason to do that just for a vote at the end of a large wagon on a counterclaimed person and the fact that he leaves it until the very end of the day means that he doesn't have to explain why he preferred Grack > BTDT or give us much information re: votes/ people he wants dead.


I wanted to hold it until EOD because i was reading through the posts, and to me Grack didn't look scum. I couldn't come up with anything conclusive about anyone else. And since you can't abstain here, I just voted. As such my one vote wasn't going to make any difference except give away information at that point.



Wait wtf.

Why are you concerned about "giving away information" with your votes if you're town?!

That's mafia rationale.

I don't agree with your assessment. I would've readily abstained if I was given the choice. You focus on the part that suits your argument the most.


You literally say in your post "my vote wasn't going to make a difference except give away information". I'm asking you what motivation town has to hide information regarding votes because I do not see one at all. It is irrelevant whether you technically abstained by not voting or not because that still denies town information which you said was your motivation for abstaining.

It doesn't make sense for VT or blue because scum cannot discern roles from how people vote so that leaves one possibility which is mafia.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 08 2017 18:30 GMT
#904
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.

So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 08 2017 18:33 GMT
#905
On January 09 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.

So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly.


Are you seriously claiming that you counterclaimed a Medic as the Cop?

What the actual fuck was the play there?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 08 2017 18:43 GMT
#906
On January 09 2017 02:36 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 02:29 darthfoley wrote:
On January 09 2017 02:27 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
Can Silverwolf77 figure out how quotes work and edit her posts ?


You can't edit your posts.

But yea please preview your posts before you have badly formatted quotes please


I already said I'm not gonna quote snip anymore but if there is a better way people want me to do it, I'm happy to go along with that. Otherwise I'll just copy the whole thing or use spoilers if needed.



The easiest way to do it is copy the whole thing and then Bold or underline the part you want to talk about.
Try TL Mafia!!!
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 08 2017 18:56 GMT
#907
On January 09 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.

So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly.


Lol
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 08 2017 19:04 GMT
#908
(I don't believe you)
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 08 2017 19:12 GMT
#909
On January 09 2017 03:33 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.

So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly.


Are you seriously claiming that you counterclaimed a Medic as the Cop?

What the actual fuck was the play there?

errrr im not the cop im vanilla town
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 08 2017 19:12 GMT
#910
On January 09 2017 04:04 darthfoley wrote:
(I don't believe you)

Tell me why I would counter claim the Doctor as mafia when I can safely kill him during the night phase.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 08 2017 19:15 GMT
#911
On January 09 2017 04:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 04:04 darthfoley wrote:
(I don't believe you)

Tell me why I would counter claim the Doctor as mafia when I can safely kill him during the night phase.


becasue you can get him lynched?

i was aboutt o go apeshit on the fact you were claiming cop next
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 08 2017 19:16 GMT
#912
On January 09 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.

So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly.


watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 08 2017 19:17 GMT
#913
On January 09 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.

So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly.


and basically here you self make it true the only difference is now we don't have docs input throughout the night phase and if your town, you basically wasted 2 days of our time out of sefl preservation
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 08 2017 19:17 GMT
#914
So you're not cop but you're claiming cop lol wtf are you doing man
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 08 2017 19:18 GMT
#915
On January 09 2017 03:20 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:
On January 09 2017 02:23 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
I have something to add about B0ston. I don't know if this has been missed.

On January 08 2017 07:12 B0stonSC wrote:
Well that seems rather sorted. is Instalynch a thing on this site?


If you are town why would you want an instalynch when there's a CC ? I think that holds for a lot of other people too. And Grack was one of the most vocal people here.

On January 08 2017 21:00 Calix wrote:
Although ME's large post was good tone-wise, his actions are questionable especially with his vote and wanting to "hold it until EOD" (before voting for Grack) which makes no sense for town to do (it literally makes you harder to read - a non-town trait). There is no reason to do that just for a vote at the end of a large wagon on a counterclaimed person and the fact that he leaves it until the very end of the day means that he doesn't have to explain why he preferred Grack > BTDT or give us much information re: votes/ people he wants dead.


I wanted to hold it until EOD because i was reading through the posts, and to me Grack didn't look scum. I couldn't come up with anything conclusive about anyone else. And since you can't abstain here, I just voted. As such my one vote wasn't going to make any difference except give away information at that point.



Wait wtf.

Why are you concerned about "giving away information" with your votes if you're town?!

That's mafia rationale.

I don't agree with your assessment. I would've readily abstained if I was given the choice. You focus on the part that suits your argument the most.


as much as i am weary of calix, i agree. what is the town benifit of not voting?
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 19:18 GMT
#916
On January 09 2017 04:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 03:33 Calix wrote:
On January 09 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.

So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly.


Are you seriously claiming that you counterclaimed a Medic as the Cop?

What the actual fuck was the play there?

errrr im not the cop im vanilla town


Get lynched.
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 08 2017 19:20 GMT
#917
On January 09 2017 02:41 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 01:54 ika42 wrote:
On January 08 2017 19:26 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 13:40 Vivax wrote:
3) You need to open the nested quotes ika. Then it takes quite a bit of habit to learn to read that and find what you want, but the question was this:

How does that question have anything to do with your alignment?


Which question? This question:

But you have seen ikas meta yes?


2) nope thats not what i said, i said you were implying i am town based on how you acted. theres a difference there
How did I act? I asked Darthfoley out about his read on you. You think that implies a townread on you? Sorry, it doesn't. Hope that's out of the way now.

My read on you anyhow is that you're probs town. I mean, you clearly care about the game. You seem interested into digging into things and so on. You also get emotional about the outcome. Overall that seems townie to me.

For SW my read isn't as strong yet. The way she accused me of defending you earlier simply felt very unfair and like she was just trying to put words into my mouth. Then at some point she came back and the tone of the post sounded very different, so I found that a bit odd. It was somewhat less aggressive. Could be scum indicative as it would mean that her earlier conviction into what she accused me for was only a temporary act.

To finish the post, I'm going to leave her at nullish/scummish for the time being. The post I found odd cause of the change in tonality is :
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 07 2017 00:02 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 23:40 Vivax wrote:
I don't have a read on ika so far and I don't need to have one to question darthfoley's read on him.


No, you don't have to have a read on ika to say darthfoley's read on him is bad. I agree. The problem I have is the way you are doing it. Basically, ika no longer has to answer the suspicion because you interjected. Not only interjected but also defended ika by asking if darthfoley has his meta and implying that ika's questions are not scummy. You have a right to have an opinion on ika's questioning but the way you are doing it is very protective of ika. If you have no read of ika, this doesn't make much sense.

I guess my gut just pinged hard off of that and also I think you interjected when someone was questioning someone else-I think Calix pointed this out already.

Anyway, from my experience, scum like to do this because they get towncred for defending people they know are town. It's way too early to have a super strong opinion on someone's alignment, unless you know that alignment. Doesn't mean we can't have reads. We certainly can. But when I would of preferred to see ika answer the suspicion and engage with darth rather than have you interject.

Sorry if I'm not explaining myself well. I'm tired and rambling right now. Be back in a little bit.



I think your reasons for town-reading ika are bad and you should reread him if your main reason is him being emotional and invested because that's more personality-indicative for him from what I've seen recently. (applies to SW to an extent as well)

As far as your SW tone read goes, I would like to know which posts you are comparing with the one you flagged up. Not convinced that it's scum-indicative as it stands due to that last line.


I question where you get the bolded for both me and SW. The last game you have played with us we were both scum and we both lacked emotions and investments in the thread

So is there a game your refrencing here or where this that come form?


What I mean there is you raging at SP last game as mafia. I also recall you two were quite aggressive with your posts in Fringe in one of the universes or something (but I only skim-read that game so correct me if I'm wrong).

(also I disagree that SW was scum since she was uninformed neut in that game and didn't have info on who mafia were. afaik I have yet to see a mafia!SW so that's why I said it's less applicable to her)


fring we were more passive. i recall defending sino a bunch.

As for his read on me it looks like its less about my emotions and more about my investment. While i can get legit mad at some stuff as scum its in rare cases of "here is a misrepresentation of my RL situation/case on me"

none wich has happened so i find the angle he is taking to be a little more vaild if hes talking about the flip part cus if i was scum i would not care.
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 08 2017 19:21 GMT
#918
On January 09 2017 04:20 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 02:41 Calix wrote:
On January 09 2017 01:54 ika42 wrote:
On January 08 2017 19:26 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 13:40 Vivax wrote:
3) You need to open the nested quotes ika. Then it takes quite a bit of habit to learn to read that and find what you want, but the question was this:

How does that question have anything to do with your alignment?


Which question? This question:

But you have seen ikas meta yes?


2) nope thats not what i said, i said you were implying i am town based on how you acted. theres a difference there
How did I act? I asked Darthfoley out about his read on you. You think that implies a townread on you? Sorry, it doesn't. Hope that's out of the way now.

My read on you anyhow is that you're probs town. I mean, you clearly care about the game. You seem interested into digging into things and so on. You also get emotional about the outcome. Overall that seems townie to me.

For SW my read isn't as strong yet. The way she accused me of defending you earlier simply felt very unfair and like she was just trying to put words into my mouth. Then at some point she came back and the tone of the post sounded very different, so I found that a bit odd. It was somewhat less aggressive. Could be scum indicative as it would mean that her earlier conviction into what she accused me for was only a temporary act.

To finish the post, I'm going to leave her at nullish/scummish for the time being. The post I found odd cause of the change in tonality is :
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 07 2017 00:02 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 23:40 Vivax wrote:
I don't have a read on ika so far and I don't need to have one to question darthfoley's read on him.


No, you don't have to have a read on ika to say darthfoley's read on him is bad. I agree. The problem I have is the way you are doing it. Basically, ika no longer has to answer the suspicion because you interjected. Not only interjected but also defended ika by asking if darthfoley has his meta and implying that ika's questions are not scummy. You have a right to have an opinion on ika's questioning but the way you are doing it is very protective of ika. If you have no read of ika, this doesn't make much sense.

I guess my gut just pinged hard off of that and also I think you interjected when someone was questioning someone else-I think Calix pointed this out already.

Anyway, from my experience, scum like to do this because they get towncred for defending people they know are town. It's way too early to have a super strong opinion on someone's alignment, unless you know that alignment. Doesn't mean we can't have reads. We certainly can. But when I would of preferred to see ika answer the suspicion and engage with darth rather than have you interject.

Sorry if I'm not explaining myself well. I'm tired and rambling right now. Be back in a little bit.



I think your reasons for town-reading ika are bad and you should reread him if your main reason is him being emotional and invested because that's more personality-indicative for him from what I've seen recently. (applies to SW to an extent as well)

As far as your SW tone read goes, I would like to know which posts you are comparing with the one you flagged up. Not convinced that it's scum-indicative as it stands due to that last line.


I question where you get the bolded for both me and SW. The last game you have played with us we were both scum and we both lacked emotions and investments in the thread

So is there a game your refrencing here or where this that come form?


What I mean there is you raging at SP last game as mafia. I also recall you two were quite aggressive with your posts in Fringe in one of the universes or something (but I only skim-read that game so correct me if I'm wrong).

(also I disagree that SW was scum since she was uninformed neut in that game and didn't have info on who mafia were. afaik I have yet to see a mafia!SW so that's why I said it's less applicable to her)


fringe we were more passive. i recall defending sino a bunch.

As for his read on me it looks like its less about my emotions and more about my investment. While i can get legit mad at some stuff as scum its in rare cases of "here is a misrepresentation of my RL situation/case on me"

none witch has happened so i find the angle he is taking to be a little more valid if hes talking about the flip part cus if i was scum i would not care.


sigh im still tired....
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 19:21 GMT
#919
btdt is scum flailing

If he's town he needs a game ban after this for griefing and borderline game throwing.

I have asked ME for reads twice now and he's ignored me. I say we lynch him after btdt. B0ston after that.

If these 3 are the scumteam, I wouldn't be surprised.

darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
January 08 2017 19:25 GMT
#920
On January 09 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. [b]Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.[/]

So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly.


Awkward? Really? That's the adjective you're going to use to describe your supposed town play?

"That was supposed to happen anyways N1" well you got the Doctor lynched D1 so you basically gave them a 2 for 1 if youre town, and if you're mafia it worked out surprisingly well.
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