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On January 09 2017 05:18 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 05:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Once I flipped Cop, you guys should really look into the people who
a) said my counter claim would be town (because that's subtle TMI, looking at you here, Vivax) and
b) people who want to see me dead at all cost (see darthfoley)
I think darthfoley and Vivax are scum together and I will get my post-game credits for that along with the "what a bad move to make as town" stuff I'm gonna get for sure :D People who want you dead at all cost? What the fuck are you talking about dude? So the people who think you town claimed are mafia, and the people who think you're more likely mafia are also mafia. I guess everyone is mafia All while you're also cop and VT. Cool, man.
Stop trying to misrepresent me. I'm the locked lynch and that's just fine. However, you and Vivax are scum together and I will take post-game cred for this  .
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On January 09 2017 05:17 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 05:13 ika42 wrote:On January 09 2017 05:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Once I flipped Cop, you guys should really look into the people who
a) said my counter claim would be town (because that's subtle TMI, looking at you here, Vivax) and
b) people who want to see me dead at all cost (see darthfoley)
I think darthfoley and Vivax are scum together and I will get my post-game credits for that along with the "what a bad move to make as town" stuff I'm gonna get for sure :D you would get no cred if they are scum because of what you pulled the fact is that even if they are scum, you get no cred based on the fact you had to play a borderline greifing/gamethrowing move to just prove your point.If one must basically play such shit to be right/get their reads, they are doing something wrong. Im going to watch AGDQ cus this is jsut gonna piss me off further
The bolded sentence basically confirms you as town. Which is great! Never lynch ika42.
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Also guys calling for bans for griefing: I genuinely thought it's a good idea and had no idea that Grack was the actual doctor. Keep in mind he completely unnecessary claimed Doc at a point where it was just dumb (or scum-motivated!) to do so.
Which led me to the decision of counter-claiming because I thought:
1. If he's doctor, he's dead N1, so lynch D1 isn't bad
2. If he's not doctor, we got scum down
I took a risk. It did not pay off. You can, as I said, continue to tilt which is going to be absolutely great for scum, or you can try to get people to talk and continue to find scum. Your choice.
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(also, bans etc. are up to the hosts and should only be discussed post-game)
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Don't waste D2, guys. It's important to not give those 48 hours just because I'm locked.
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On January 09 2017 05:23 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 05:18 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2017 05:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Once I flipped Cop, you guys should really look into the people who
a) said my counter claim would be town (because that's subtle TMI, looking at you here, Vivax) and
b) people who want to see me dead at all cost (see darthfoley)
I think darthfoley and Vivax are scum together and I will get my post-game credits for that along with the "what a bad move to make as town" stuff I'm gonna get for sure :D People who want you dead at all cost? What the fuck are you talking about dude? So the people who think you town claimed are mafia, and the people who think you're more likely mafia are also mafia. I guess everyone is mafia All while you're also cop and VT. Cool, man. Stop trying to misrepresent me. I'm the locked lynch and that's just fine. However, you and Vivax are scum together and I will take post-game cred for this .
Can't wait for your apology
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On January 09 2017 04:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 04:49 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:On January 09 2017 04:21 SilverWolf77 wrote:
btdt is scum flailing
If he's town he needs a game ban after this for griefing and borderline game throwing.
I have asked ME for reads twice now and he's ignored me. I say we lynch him after btdt. B0ston after that.
If these 3 are the scumteam, I wouldn't be surprised.
Why have you been pressuring me for a read ? I don't understand it. I'll give you my read, when I have one. Instead go read the thread and look at people who claimed they had a read and haven't given one. You are actually behaving exactly like squishy when it comes to asking people for reads. "Don't look at my scummy behaviour, go look for people who are doing this other scummy thing instead!" Who falls under your criteria of "claims to have a read without giving one" exactly? Also lol at "why are you pressuring me for reads" in a game about analysing players by what they write.
Well KSC hasn't given any reads. But I don't think he claimed anything, I skimmed through everyone's filters. Onegu actually said that he was going to defend SW as town ( and i thought he didn't ) but he actually did. So quite a bit of oversight from me.
On January 09 2017 04:56 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 04:49 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:On January 09 2017 04:21 SilverWolf77 wrote:
btdt is scum flailing
If he's town he needs a game ban after this for griefing and borderline game throwing.
I have asked ME for reads twice now and he's ignored me. I say we lynch him after btdt. B0ston after that.
If these 3 are the scumteam, I wouldn't be surprised.
Why have you been pressuring me for a read ? I don't understand it. I'll give you my read, when I have one. Instead go read the thread and look at people who claimed they had a read and haven't given one. You are actually behaving exactly like squishy when it comes to asking people for reads. or you can explain why the fuck you have no reads after the day 1 shit. everyone else has given them in one form or another so dont dodge the question at hand
I didn't dodge the question, I just said I don't have concrete reads. And why is it necessary to have reads after the day 1 shit ? If anything it just confuses me. Like why did you not give an argument for why SW is town. or why did you match grack's stubbornness with your own.
On January 09 2017 05:03 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 04:58 Kmatt wrote:
So if we're all in agreement that BTDT is long overdue for being mounted on a fence post, who do you think among potential scum is up for the following vote? B0ston and ME are the obvious choices but like Calix said I can't help but think at least one of the mafia is actively mucking the thread up. Granted this guy has his work cut out for him at the moment. I want ME dead. At best hes scum. at worst hes a town who needs to learn to play forum mafia. I am being blunt on this issue too: if you cant get reads or dont like being pressure or stuff like that, then dont be here. This is a game of convincing and pressuring and talking. If you cant handle some heat, then you dont need to be in the kitchen.
I am being blunt on the issue, this game is for noobs. Thanks for the support.
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I have no idea where KSC has been. His vote on Grack is particularly strange considering it came way before Grack was even in the discussion for being lynched. Please come back
B0ston's filter is basically just saying things "feel off" without anything to back it up. Also feels like hedging and being too scared to scum read anyone. I'd also be curious of what Vivax makes of this post, considering his suspicion of squishy
On January 08 2017 06:21 B0stonSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 13:08 reps)squishy wrote:On January 07 2017 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:On January 07 2017 12:47 Onegu wrote:
She is town because she was the first to call Boston out. And then the back and forth with Vivax doesnt come from scum. Never Never Never. More so in a newbie game as someone who never played with most of the people in this game. Let me just point out that this does not satisfy the requirements set forth, that you have now failed to meet the burden of proof, and you are dodging the question entirely. Grack are you trying to cause conflict deliberately. This looks like a scum thing to do because it causes disorder and chaos. Instead of trying to get leads it devolves into a huge argument over burden of proof. I argue to any townie please do not fall into this trap. This is an excellent point, one that I hadn't considered. I'll keep reading with this in mind. Also update on a few reads, Vivax and Michael seem off to me still, but I can't put my finger on it.
In retrospect B0ston was probably going to be a wagon, but everyone seemingly got cold feet at the same time for the same reason, which is suspicious especially given Grack flipping town. I'd really like to hear what B0ston makes of Grack's town flip, cuz given how shit went down I think there's a very good chance he's scum
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On January 09 2017 05:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Don't waste D2, guys. It's important to not give those 48 hours just because I'm locked.
Well we can also not waste time now. What do you want to discuss?
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On January 09 2017 05:41 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 04:56 Calix wrote:On January 09 2017 04:49 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:On January 09 2017 04:21 SilverWolf77 wrote:
btdt is scum flailing
If he's town he needs a game ban after this for griefing and borderline game throwing.
I have asked ME for reads twice now and he's ignored me. I say we lynch him after btdt. B0ston after that.
If these 3 are the scumteam, I wouldn't be surprised.
Why have you been pressuring me for a read ? I don't understand it. I'll give you my read, when I have one. Instead go read the thread and look at people who claimed they had a read and haven't given one. You are actually behaving exactly like squishy when it comes to asking people for reads. "Don't look at my scummy behaviour, go look for people who are doing this other scummy thing instead!" Who falls under your criteria of "claims to have a read without giving one" exactly? Also lol at "why are you pressuring me for reads" in a game about analysing players by what they write. Well KSC hasn't given any reads. But I don't think he claimed anything, I skimmed through everyone's filters. Onegu actually said that he was going to defend SW as town ( and i thought he didn't ) but he actually did. So quite a bit of oversight from me. Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 04:56 ika42 wrote:On January 09 2017 04:49 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:On January 09 2017 04:21 SilverWolf77 wrote:
btdt is scum flailing
If he's town he needs a game ban after this for griefing and borderline game throwing.
I have asked ME for reads twice now and he's ignored me. I say we lynch him after btdt. B0ston after that.
If these 3 are the scumteam, I wouldn't be surprised.
Why have you been pressuring me for a read ? I don't understand it. I'll give you my read, when I have one. Instead go read the thread and look at people who claimed they had a read and haven't given one. You are actually behaving exactly like squishy when it comes to asking people for reads. or you can explain why the fuck you have no reads after the day 1 shit. everyone else has given them in one form or another so dont dodge the question at hand I didn't dodge the question, I just said I don't have concrete reads. And why is it necessary to have reads after the day 1 shit ? If anything it just confuses me. Like why did you not give an argument for why SW is town. or why did you match grack's stubbornness with your own. Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 05:03 ika42 wrote:On January 09 2017 04:58 Kmatt wrote:
So if we're all in agreement that BTDT is long overdue for being mounted on a fence post, who do you think among potential scum is up for the following vote? B0ston and ME are the obvious choices but like Calix said I can't help but think at least one of the mafia is actively mucking the thread up. Granted this guy has his work cut out for him at the moment. I want ME dead. At best hes scum. at worst hes a town who needs to learn to play forum mafia. I am being blunt on this issue too: if you cant get reads or dont like being pressure or stuff like that, then dont be here. This is a game of convincing and pressuring and talking. If you cant handle some heat, then you dont need to be in the kitchen. I am being blunt on the issue, this game is for noobs. Thanks for the support.
Just because it's for noobs doesn't excuse not playing.
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On January 09 2017 05:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also guys calling for bans for griefing: I genuinely thought it's a good idea and had no idea that Grack was the actual doctor. Keep in mind he completely unnecessary claimed Doc at a point where it was just dumb (or scum-motivated!) to do so.
Which led me to the decision of counter-claiming because I thought:
1. If he's doctor, he's dead N1, so lynch D1 isn't bad
2. If he's not doctor, we got scum down
I took a risk. It did not pay off. You can, as I said, continue to tilt which is going to be absolutely great for scum, or you can try to get people to talk and continue to find scum. Your choice.
For your first point, there's no guarantee he'd be shot. He could be roleblocked and scum could shoot elsewhere looking for the other PR. You did their job for them by getting Grack killed if you are town which is crap play. No excuse since you aren't new to the game. It hurts town in every way.
For your second, you didn't even scum read him. You could easily say you don't believe the claim and see how he reacts or you could let the situation be resolved by:
a) nightkill confirming him as doctor-best move
b) finding out who he's targeting at night and if they are alive next day
c) seeing how long he lives himself
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Also, if you thought he was scum fakeclaiming, let the actual doc or another PR cc and get confirmed scum. Yeah, it outs a PR but it's worth it to kill confirmed scum.
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On January 09 2017 05:34 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 05:23 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 09 2017 05:18 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2017 05:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Once I flipped Cop, you guys should really look into the people who
a) said my counter claim would be town (because that's subtle TMI, looking at you here, Vivax) and
b) people who want to see me dead at all cost (see darthfoley)
I think darthfoley and Vivax are scum together and I will get my post-game credits for that along with the "what a bad move to make as town" stuff I'm gonna get for sure :D People who want you dead at all cost? What the fuck are you talking about dude? So the people who think you town claimed are mafia, and the people who think you're more likely mafia are also mafia. I guess everyone is mafia All while you're also cop and VT. Cool, man. Stop trying to misrepresent me. I'm the locked lynch and that's just fine. However, you and Vivax are scum together and I will take post-game cred for this . Can't wait for your apology
Nah. I'm salty myself because it didn't work out and of course I don't know 100% if it's really you and Vivax. :/
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In case I die I can give you one piece of advice:
If you see anyone saying tomorrow that you should sheep me and that I said btdt and Grack were both town, don't listen and lynch btdt, and if he flips mafia lynch the person who said that. You chose to go this route lynching Grack and now you have to walk it to the end or a mafia might slip away.
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In other words: There's not point discussing anything related to btdt he just has to be lynched without any questions asked.
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okay then I'll just afk at this point and you dismiss another VT
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I feel that Onegu has fallen under the radar. I looked over the filters of townie players to see how much they talked about Onegu. Which consists of Calix, Ika,and Sw. And what I see is his VT claim controversy, which is not AI whatsoever. And his name popping up when Boston changed his reason for voting for Onegu.
When checking Onegu's filter it is not as active as the average vet, with the exception of Kelsier. And a good portion of his posts pertain to his activity alone. He does not look to make up his low activity with anything of substance either. I also believe Onegu's suspicion of Boston would not have came if it were directed at another player. I think it is solely a reaction to being voted on by Boston.
And I noticed something that was extremely odd to me. Just as btdt claimed cop Onegu talked about something incredibly unimportant, and that was SW's post format.
On January 09 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.
So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly.
On January 09 2017 03:43 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 02:36 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 09 2017 02:29 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2017 02:27 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
Can Silverwolf77 figure out how quotes work and edit her posts ? You can't edit your posts. But yea please preview your posts before you have badly formatted quotes please I already said I'm not gonna quote snip anymore but if there is a better way people want me to do it, I'm happy to go along with that. Otherwise I'll just copy the whole thing or use spoilers if needed. The easiest way to do it is copy the whole thing and then Bold or underline the part you want to talk about.
Recognize the time stamps, there is a 13 minute difference. He is focusing on irrelevant things, and was around to respond to BTDT but ignored it
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On January 09 2017 07:42 reps)squishy wrote:I feel that Onegu has fallen under the radar. I looked over the filters of townie players to see how much they talked about Onegu. Which consists of Calix, Ika,and Sw. And what I see is his VT claim controversy, which is not AI whatsoever. And his name popping up when Boston changed his reason for voting for Onegu. When checking Onegu's filter it is not as active as the average vet, with the exception of Kelsier. And a good portion of his posts pertain to his activity alone. He does not look to make up his low activity with anything of substance either. I also believe Onegu's suspicion of Boston would not have came if it were directed at another player. I think it is solely a reaction to being voted on by Boston. And I noticed something that was extremely odd to me. Just as btdt claimed cop Onegu talked about something incredibly unimportant, and that was SW's post format. Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.
So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly. Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 03:43 Onegu wrote:On January 09 2017 02:36 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 09 2017 02:29 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2017 02:27 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
Can Silverwolf77 figure out how quotes work and edit her posts ? You can't edit your posts. But yea please preview your posts before you have badly formatted quotes please I already said I'm not gonna quote snip anymore but if there is a better way people want me to do it, I'm happy to go along with that. Otherwise I'll just copy the whole thing or use spoilers if needed. The easiest way to do it is copy the whole thing and then Bold or underline the part you want to talk about. Recognize the time stamps, there is a 13 minute difference. He is focusing on irrelevant things, and was around to respond to BTDT but ignored it
On January 09 2017 07:48 Vivax wrote:
Squishy is 100 % mafia.
I agree with Vivax. Here's a TMI:
"Recognize the time stamps, there is a 13 minute difference. He is focusing on irrelevant things, and was around to respond to BTDT but ignored it"
He basically says: "onegu is scum because he did not respond to BTDT". That would mean that BTDT is town. He can only know that if he's scum.
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