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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 07 2017 21:17 GMT
#701
On January 08 2017 04:23 Calix wrote:
You're starting to get on my tits here. You keep bringing it back to this topic instead of just...talking about something game-relevant...



Is this a legit complaint? I mean I guess depending on how he was on your tits could be painful or annoying. But couldnt it also be pleasurable?
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ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 21:18 GMT
#702
On January 08 2017 06:16 Calix wrote:
Extremely poor play for scum to CC like that re: BTDT. D1 scum lynch, here we come :D


how long has it been scicne you had a d1 scum lynch calix?
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 21:19 GMT
#703
On January 08 2017 06:17 Vivax wrote:
I refuse to believe Grack is mafia. But I didn't have high expectations in a newbie game. You are free to lynch the wrong guys how you please.


so you think BTDT is scum?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 21:19 GMT
#704
Wtf is going on
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 21:19 GMT
#705
On January 08 2017 06:18 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 06:16 Calix wrote:
Extremely poor play for scum to CC like that re: BTDT. D1 scum lynch, here we come :D


how long has it been scicne you had a d1 scum lynch calix?


Shh, don't rain on my parade xD
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 21:21 GMT
#706
On January 07 2017 13:08 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2017 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 12:47 Onegu wrote:
She is town because she was the first to call Boston out. And then the back and forth with Vivax doesnt come from scum. Never Never Never. More so in a newbie game as someone who never played with most of the people in this game.

Let me just point out that this does not satisfy the requirements set forth, that you have now failed to meet the burden of proof, and you are dodging the question entirely.

Grack are you trying to cause conflict deliberately. This looks like a scum thing to do because it causes disorder and chaos. Instead of trying to get leads it devolves into a huge argument over burden of proof. I argue to any townie please do not fall into this trap.

This is an excellent point, one that I hadn't considered. I'll keep reading with this in mind.

Also update on a few reads, Vivax and Michael seem off to me still, but I can't put my finger on it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2017 21:21 GMT
#707
On January 08 2017 06:19 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 06:17 Vivax wrote:
I refuse to believe Grack is mafia. But I didn't have high expectations in a newbie game. You are free to lynch the wrong guys how you please.


so you think BTDT is scum?


I don't think that even if it's a fake CC it necessarily means that btdt is scum. His play this game doesn't make sense to me anyway as I saw him being analytical as town. To me it just looks like he's tilting. He overlooks things I posted and in my opinion focuses on all the wrong people.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 21:21 GMT
#708
I don't see the scum motivation for Grack to fake claim because the votes were tied at like 3

But I don't see the scum motivation for BTDT to cc as scum

But one has to be scum
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2017 21:22 GMT
#709
On January 08 2017 06:21 darthfoley wrote:
I don't see the scum motivation for Grack to fake claim because the votes were tied at like 3

But I don't see the scum motivation for BTDT to cc as scum

But one has to be scum


No there are plenty of instances where VTs claim some PR for whatever reason
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 07 2017 21:23 GMT
#710
On January 08 2017 06:07 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Reps can you explain how I defend people when I post reads on them or the people pushing them? It's like you only took what ika and silver have been claiming at face value ignoring the entire discussion that revolved around it.

You can also explain what's inherently scummy in defending people. That doesn't exactly seem like something only mafia would do, besides that it didn't even happen.


Specifically right here:
On January 06 2017 23:07 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 14:13 Vivax wrote:
Is there anyone here who actually didn't play mafia before, or just very very little?

On January 06 2017 11:31 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:43 Calix wrote:
I sense I'll have an aneurysm at this rate.

DF, you seem sensible. What else have you noticed so far?


I actually feel weird about ika. Asked the kinda useless questionnaire and has basically been bs'ing a bit since. Not a real read but I find his opening a little off


This read looks forced. I mean, you will say it isn't a read I know, but we both know it kind of is. And to me it just looks like you were looking for someone to make look guilty easily to fulfill Calix demand.

Fend yourself, Foley.


Vivax-Why are you defending ika so early in the game?


When you are defending people here.

Suspecting someone doesn't mean I'm defending his scumreads, which you are assuming I do.[/QUOTE]
On January 08 2017 06:07 Vivax wrote:Reps can you explain how I defend people when I post reads on them or the people pushing them? It's like you only took what ika and silver have been claiming at face value ignoring the entire discussion that revolved around it.

You can also explain what's inherently scummy in defending people. That doesn't exactly seem like something only mafia would do, besides that it didn't even happen.

Towns goal is to identify scum is often through reads and questioning. I feel if someone is being read as scum should defend themselves. There was nothing at stake such as a mislynch. Let people have arguments and rebuttals, that is how information is revealed.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 21:23 GMT
#711
Why the fuck would a VT counter-claim Medic? That's extremely anti-town given that the Medic would likely die at night.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
January 07 2017 21:25 GMT
#712
On January 08 2017 06:23 Calix wrote:
Why the fuck would a VT counter-claim Medic? That's extremely anti-town given that the Medic would likely die at night.

It happens very frequently.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 07 2017 21:25 GMT
#713
On January 08 2017 06:23 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 06:07 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Reps can you explain how I defend people when I post reads on them or the people pushing them? It's like you only took what ika and silver have been claiming at face value ignoring the entire discussion that revolved around it.

You can also explain what's inherently scummy in defending people. That doesn't exactly seem like something only mafia would do, besides that it didn't even happen.


Specifically right here:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 23:07 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 14:13 Vivax wrote:
Is there anyone here who actually didn't play mafia before, or just very very little?

On January 06 2017 11:31 darthfoley wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:43 Calix wrote:
I sense I'll have an aneurysm at this rate.

DF, you seem sensible. What else have you noticed so far?


I actually feel weird about ika. Asked the kinda useless questionnaire and has basically been bs'ing a bit since. Not a real read but I find his opening a little off


This read looks forced. I mean, you will say it isn't a read I know, but we both know it kind of is. And to me it just looks like you were looking for someone to make look guilty easily to fulfill Calix demand.

Fend yourself, Foley.


Vivax-Why are you defending ika so early in the game?


When you are defending people here.

Suspecting someone doesn't mean I'm defending his scumreads, which you are assuming I do.

On January 08 2017 06:07 Vivax wrote:Reps can you explain how I defend people when I post reads on them or the people pushing them? It's like you only took what ika and silver have been claiming at face value ignoring the entire discussion that revolved around it.

You can also explain what's inherently scummy in defending people. That doesn't exactly seem like something only mafia would do, besides that it didn't even happen.

Towns goal is to identify scum is often through reads and questioning. I feel if someone is being read as scum should defend themselves. There was nothing at stake such as a mislynch. Let people have arguments and rebuttals, that is how information is revealed. [/QUOTE]

So saying that darthfoley's read on ika looks forced equivals telling darthfoley to back off ika? What the hell is wrong with people's logic in this game?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 21:25 GMT
#714
On January 08 2017 06:22 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 06:21 darthfoley wrote:
I don't see the scum motivation for Grack to fake claim because the votes were tied at like 3

But I don't see the scum motivation for BTDT to cc as scum

But one has to be scum


No there are plenty of instances where VTs claim some PR for whatever reason


Why the hell would this ever happen. Also Grack saying to lynch BTDT after him doesn't make sense from VT POV because as VT he wouldn't know BTDT was lying
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 07 2017 21:25 GMT
#715
On January 08 2017 04:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 04:36 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2017 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:02 KelsierSC wrote:
yeeeehhhhhhh booooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

ksc most likely town for this.

he hates playing scum afaik.


That's a bad read and you should know that

Explain it to me then? Maybe I should not apply meta reads with people I haven't played with



Have you played with KSC more than 5 times before? And as both alignments? IF the answers to these questions are no then you are not qualified to make a meta read...
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ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 21:25 GMT
#716
On January 08 2017 06:22 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 06:21 darthfoley wrote:
I don't see the scum motivation for Grack to fake claim because the votes were tied at like 3

But I don't see the scum motivation for BTDT to cc as scum

But one has to be scum


No there are plenty of instances where VTs claim some PR for whatever reason


Anyone who claims PR as VT like this i would argue is not only greifing but borderline gamethrowing. Im not commenting further on this matter until post game regarding that specific point
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 21:26 GMT
#717
So Grack has to be real doc or mafia, no?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
January 07 2017 21:26 GMT
#718
On January 08 2017 06:26 darthfoley wrote:
So Grack has to be real doc or mafia, no?

Yes. I am not VT.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 07 2017 21:26 GMT
#719
OK, so this is basically a 1v1 between Grack and btdt. If Grack flips scum, then we know he lied to out the doc. If he flips doc, btdt will be lynched tomorrow as scum trying to get the doc lynched.

I honestly think the btdt cc is a worse play for scum than Grack's claim and a terrible play for town if he's not even scumreading Grack. So at this point, I'm more inclined to keep my vote on Grack because I was scumreading him anyway.

ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 21:26 GMT
#720
On January 08 2017 06:25 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 06:22 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2017 06:21 darthfoley wrote:
I don't see the scum motivation for Grack to fake claim because the votes were tied at like 3

But I don't see the scum motivation for BTDT to cc as scum

But one has to be scum


No there are plenty of instances where VTs claim some PR for whatever reason


Why the hell would this ever happen. Also Grack saying to lynch BTDT after him doesn't make sense from VT POV because as VT he wouldn't know BTDT was lying


I want to see a game where it has happened here on this site
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