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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:48 GMT
#661
On January 08 2017 05:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:44 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:41 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Why is someone with no posts more likely to be scum than someone who is derailing conversations where people are trying to get reads?

I dislike this sudden attention to B0stonSC. I was scumreading him too but it's a weak player and an easy push to get the vote off of the stronger players who are acting scummy as well. I can totally see mafia coming in at the end of the day and trying to push the lynch like this.





Yeah it's bugging me too. I don't trust BTDT and reps seems like he's following the "most logical" person or some shit so I don't trust his judgment either. I would rather flip Vivax/ Grack at this rate.

You don't trust me but you want to flip Vivax who I just voted.

re: trusting me: check the games I played. I tend to have activity spikes anyways (and I'm fully aware that I am now the one talking about activity) and I have them as either alignment. So please if you decide if you can trust me or not (D1, you cannot trust anyone I guess) don't look too much on activity. Because if you do, you will most likely get to the conclusion that you can't trust me which is wrong because I'm town.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:48 GMT
#662
On January 08 2017 05:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:44 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Grackaroni, is Silverwolf scum?

No


On January 07 2017 11:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
[quote]
It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


i asked first so burden of proof is on you.

Also the question you are asking is not the same as what i am asking. You are asking em to prove I am town not somebody else. My question is asking you to prove your read on someone else not yourself.

Again, show me posts that show the efforts and angles you are talking about. Otherwise i will say your fabricating the read on him.


Then I will alter the task. Prove to me that Silverwolf is town.



okay

You missed the point of the whole exercise.


I thought the point was that you wanted to point out how dumb the thing that ika is doing is. But the way you do it implies hat you think Silverwolf is scum. Or do I read too much into that? (please only answer that if you're not grackaroni)

No I was very clear throughout the conversation that they were town.

Hmm okay

why is he town then? I have her as null.

Because her posts at the start of the day seemed townie to me!

Lol I have feels ok. I think she is town. Nobody else has been asked to specify these reads on people who just have generally active pressure-y townie filters.

I'm fully okay with that.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:49 GMT
#663
On January 08 2017 05:47 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:44 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:41 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Why is someone with no posts more likely to be scum than someone who is derailing conversations where people are trying to get reads?

I dislike this sudden attention to B0stonSC. I was scumreading him too but it's a weak player and an easy push to get the vote off of the stronger players who are acting scummy as well. I can totally see mafia coming in at the end of the day and trying to push the lynch like this.





Yeah it's bugging me too. I don't trust BTDT and reps seems like he's following the "most logical" person or some shit so I don't trust his judgment either. I would rather flip Vivax/ Grack at this rate.

You don't trust me but you want to flip Vivax who I just voted.


I wrote that before I saw your vote post. I was noting that Boston's wagon gained traction rather quickly.

(consider me unvoted btw, I just cba to switch tabs)

You should now reconsider if I am really opportunistic. Because I am not.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 20:49 GMT
#664
On January 08 2017 05:41 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:35 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:30 reps)squishy wrote:
##unvote
##vote: B0stonSC


This gives me a real uneasy feeling that you are trying to swing the lynch off Grackaroni.

He still feels scummy to me. If a good argument comes out against him, I will vote to lynch him again.


Who do you think is more scummy?

If the votes were tied on them right now and you were the decider who would you pick and why

i moved my vote becasue I find this switch of the vote and the reason here to be very weak and an attempt to save someone when their own logic dictates that they should of had no problem leaving the said vote
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 07 2017 20:49 GMT
#665
I replied to you already bdtd I don't remember you being this sloppy
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 20:50 GMT
#666
On January 08 2017 05:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:44 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:41 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Why is someone with no posts more likely to be scum than someone who is derailing conversations where people are trying to get reads?

I dislike this sudden attention to B0stonSC. I was scumreading him too but it's a weak player and an easy push to get the vote off of the stronger players who are acting scummy as well. I can totally see mafia coming in at the end of the day and trying to push the lynch like this.





Yeah it's bugging me too. I don't trust BTDT and reps seems like he's following the "most logical" person or some shit so I don't trust his judgment either. I would rather flip Vivax/ Grack at this rate.

You don't trust me but you want to flip Vivax who I just voted.

re: trusting me: check the games I played. I tend to have activity spikes anyways (and I'm fully aware that I am now the one talking about activity) and I have them as either alignment. So please if you decide if you can trust me or not (D1, you cannot trust anyone I guess) don't look too much on activity. Because if you do, you will most likely get to the conclusion that you can't trust me which is wrong because I'm town.


Dunno where you got the idea that I care about your activity as I haven't mentioned yours at all iirc. My reasons for being suspicious of you are clear as day.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 07 2017 20:58 GMT
#667
On January 08 2017 05:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
Ah let's just lynch Vivax. He's not really responding to stuff, only very specifically, although he's around, and there's not really a sharp meaning in his words but I feel like he's speaking a lot but not saying very much.

##unvote
##vote Vivax

Woah I thought we were on the same page here! B0 has a scum lead. I think Vivax is a lead, but why so suddenly. What is your argument for Vivax other than he is not here right now? I was trying to argue Grack was more suspicious, but as I was doing it I had a change of thought. I switched my vote because your argument I felt was better than mine. Grack is a more experienced player which could be more devastating we just let him run rampant. Any thorough argument for the people that I am leaning on will convince me.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 07 2017 20:58 GMT
#668
Im here catching up again.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 07 2017 21:01 GMT
#669
On January 08 2017 02:56 SilverWolf77 wrote:
I'm dismayed that so few people are actually here and playing or that people are here and then they leave for extended periods of time. It makes the game very difficult to play. Can everyone else who hasn't, give their top three scumreads or who they would be o.k. lynching today?



Thats the advantage of a day that is 48 hours long. I can be here for 3 hours then poof for 12 comeback catch up and answer questions. Im 31 with kids and health problems. Im not going to be here all the time. Just isnt going to happen.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 07 2017 21:02 GMT
#670
On January 08 2017 03:22 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 03:16 Vivax wrote:
Sorry, back with a hungover, had my postponed bday party yesterday.
I don't think we should lynch Grack today, but I'm going to take a look at the arguments against him.

It's because I annoyed a bunch of people.



You called me a shit poster I am annoyed at you...
Try TL Mafia!!!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 21:03 GMT
#671
On January 08 2017 06:02 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 03:22 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 03:16 Vivax wrote:
Sorry, back with a hungover, had my postponed bday party yesterday.
I don't think we should lynch Grack today, but I'm going to take a look at the arguments against him.

It's because I annoyed a bunch of people.



You called me a shit poster I am annoyed at you...

lol
B0stonSC
Profile Joined November 2016
United States59 Posts
January 07 2017 21:04 GMT
#672
Onegu, my vote on you was to try and spur you into action. If I said, "Oh I'm voting Onegu to see if he'll be active" then it's not a good pressure vote.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 21:05 GMT
#673
On January 08 2017 06:04 B0stonSC wrote:
Onegu, my vote on you was to try and spur you into action. If I said, "Oh I'm voting Onegu to see if he'll be active" then it's not a good pressure vote.


Already explained that a vote with nothing to it is not pressure.

Do you have those reads you promised?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 21:06 GMT
#674
There's no one left here.

I am the Doctor

This claim is very easily counter claimable and well worth it if I am scum. If there is no counter claim then for all intents and purposes I should be confirmed.

Swika town reads all of the people that agree with them and scum reads those that do not. At the rate we are going we will mow through the town.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 07 2017 21:06 GMT
#675
On January 08 2017 06:04 B0stonSC wrote:
Onegu, my vote on you was to try and spur you into action. If I said, "Oh I'm voting Onegu to see if he'll be active" then it's not a good pressure vote.


B0stonSC I am currently voting for you because your post seem to have no direction. Who are your current scum leads, and town leads? It is now the weekend are you going to be more active?
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 21:07 GMT
#676
On January 08 2017 06:06 Grackaroni wrote:
There's no one left here.

I am the Doctor

This claim is very easily counter claimable and well worth it if I am scum. If there is no counter claim then for all intents and purposes I should be confirmed.

Swika town reads all of the people that agree with them and scum reads those that do not. At the rate we are going we will mow through the town.


Wow

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 21:07 GMT
#677
On January 08 2017 05:58 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
Ah let's just lynch Vivax. He's not really responding to stuff, only very specifically, although he's around, and there's not really a sharp meaning in his words but I feel like he's speaking a lot but not saying very much.

##unvote
##vote Vivax

Woah I thought we were on the same page here! B0 has a scum lead. I think Vivax is a lead, but why so suddenly. What is your argument for Vivax other than he is not here right now? I was trying to argue Grack was more suspicious, but as I was doing it I had a change of thought. I switched my vote because your argument I felt was better than mine. Grack is a more experienced player which could be more devastating we just let him run rampant. Any thorough argument for the people that I am leaning on will convince me.


and this is the porblem.

STICK WITH YOUR GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+ Show Spoiler [rant] +
always no matter what stick with your reads. if you rely on just others because they make better argument, you will never win and be misguided over and over. If you think they have a good case and you scum read them, great! but dont jsut go "ok better case, give up" either convince them of your case build your up more.

The only reason to switch like that is becasue the wagon would be beuilding yours looks terrible
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 07 2017 21:07 GMT
#678
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Reps can you explain how I defend people when I post reads on them or the people pushing them? It's like you only took what ika and silver have been claiming at face value ignoring the entire discussion that revolved around it.

You can also explain what's inherently scummy in defending people. That doesn't exactly seem like something only mafia would do, besides that it didn't even happen.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 21:07 GMT
#679
Who is Swika?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
January 07 2017 21:08 GMT
#680
SW & ika
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