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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:40 GMT
#641
On January 08 2017 05:40 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Grackaroni, is Silverwolf scum?

No


On January 07 2017 11:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie?


Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me.

It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


i asked first so burden of proof is on you.

Also the question you are asking is not the same as what i am asking. You are asking em to prove I am town not somebody else. My question is asking you to prove your read on someone else not yourself.

Again, show me posts that show the efforts and angles you are talking about. Otherwise i will say your fabricating the read on him.


Then I will alter the task. Prove to me that Silverwolf is town.



okay

You missed the point of the whole exercise.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 07 2017 20:41 GMT
#642
On January 08 2017 05:35 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:30 reps)squishy wrote:
##unvote
##vote: B0stonSC


This gives me a real uneasy feeling that you are trying to swing the lynch off Grackaroni.

He still feels scummy to me. If a good argument comes out against him, I will vote to lynch him again.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 20:41 GMT
#643
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


What does "no objective posts" mean? If you had to order those reads from most to least scummy where would each player fall?
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 20:41 GMT
#644
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Then why did you change your vote?
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 07 2017 20:41 GMT
#645
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Why is someone with no posts more likely to be scum than someone who is derailing conversations where people are trying to get reads?

I dislike this sudden attention to B0stonSC. I was scumreading him too but it's a weak player and an easy push to get the vote off of the stronger players who are acting scummy as well. I can totally see mafia coming in at the end of the day and trying to push the lynch like this.



beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:41 GMT
#646
On January 08 2017 05:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Grackaroni, is Silverwolf scum?

No


On January 07 2017 11:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie?


Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me.

It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


i asked first so burden of proof is on you.

Also the question you are asking is not the same as what i am asking. You are asking em to prove I am town not somebody else. My question is asking you to prove your read on someone else not yourself.

Again, show me posts that show the efforts and angles you are talking about. Otherwise i will say your fabricating the read on him.


Then I will alter the task. Prove to me that Silverwolf is town.



okay

You missed the point of the whole exercise.


I thought the point was that you wanted to point out how dumb the thing that ika is doing is. But the way you do it implies hat you think Silverwolf is scum. Or do I read too much into that? (please only answer that if you're not grackaroni)
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:42 GMT
#647
On January 08 2017 05:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:25 Vivax wrote:
I'd lynch Kelsier, Boston or ME today.

I dislike that BTDT tried to give Kelsier such an easy townread and then made a case on Boston though. Could be scum who's trying to take the lynch off Kelsier cause I really don't see what makes him so townie. But it's just an unfounded theory for now. Makes it even more tempting to lynch Kelsier though.

That post is really bad. Like, not only is it putting shade on me for shit reasons (I even said that I doubt that townread before, "I should maybe stop meta people I didn't play with"), but there's also this:

Show nested quote +
But it's just an unfounded theory for now. Makes it even more tempting to lynch Kelsier though.

Like, it's an "unfounded theory" but it's enough for you to put your vote on Kelsier, making the wagons 3-3-3.
Hm. I can't really grab it right here but something feels really off about this. So constructed and made up.

Vivax, what are your reasons to lynch Kelsier, Boston and ME?

Vivaxy, don't hide, answer this
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 07 2017 20:43 GMT
#648
On January 08 2017 05:41 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:35 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:30 reps)squishy wrote:
##unvote
##vote: B0stonSC


This gives me a real uneasy feeling that you are trying to swing the lynch off Grackaroni.

He still feels scummy to me. If a good argument comes out against him, I will vote to lynch him again.


Why are you waiting for others to give the reason for you to switch your vote instead of coming up with your own?


beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:43 GMT
#649
Ah let's just lynch Vivax. He's not really responding to stuff, only very specifically, although he's around, and there's not really a sharp meaning in his words but I feel like he's speaking a lot but not saying very much.

##unvote
##vote Vivax
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 07 2017 20:43 GMT
#650
On January 08 2017 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Grackaroni, is Silverwolf scum?

No


On January 07 2017 11:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie?


Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me.

It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


i asked first so burden of proof is on you.

Also the question you are asking is not the same as what i am asking. You are asking em to prove I am town not somebody else. My question is asking you to prove your read on someone else not yourself.

Again, show me posts that show the efforts and angles you are talking about. Otherwise i will say your fabricating the read on him.


Then I will alter the task. Prove to me that Silverwolf is town.



okay

You missed the point of the whole exercise.


I thought the point was that you wanted to point out how dumb the thing that ika is doing is. But the way you do it implies hat you think Silverwolf is scum. Or do I read too much into that? (please only answer that if you're not grackaroni)


Pretty sure you're reading too much into it
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 07 2017 20:43 GMT
#651
On January 08 2017 05:41 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Why is someone with no posts more likely to be scum than someone who is derailing conversations where people are trying to get reads?

I dislike this sudden attention to B0stonSC. I was scumreading him too but it's a weak player and an easy push to get the vote off of the stronger players who are acting scummy as well. I can totally see mafia coming in at the end of the day and trying to push the lynch like this.





Im tempted to move my vote over to grack and need to re-ios reps
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:43 GMT
#652
B0Ston, Vivax are solid scum reads at this point I think.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
January 07 2017 20:44 GMT
#653
On January 08 2017 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Grackaroni, is Silverwolf scum?

No


On January 07 2017 11:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie?


Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me.

It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


i asked first so burden of proof is on you.

Also the question you are asking is not the same as what i am asking. You are asking em to prove I am town not somebody else. My question is asking you to prove your read on someone else not yourself.

Again, show me posts that show the efforts and angles you are talking about. Otherwise i will say your fabricating the read on him.


Then I will alter the task. Prove to me that Silverwolf is town.



okay

You missed the point of the whole exercise.


I thought the point was that you wanted to point out how dumb the thing that ika is doing is. But the way you do it implies hat you think Silverwolf is scum. Or do I read too much into that? (please only answer that if you're not grackaroni)

No I was very clear throughout the conversation that they were town.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 07 2017 20:44 GMT
#654
I voted for Grackaroni in the vote thread-this is just an FYI post to let everyone know where my vote is. If you'd prefer I vote here as well going forward, I can do that. Not sure how everyone does this.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 20:44 GMT
#655
On January 08 2017 05:41 SilverWolf77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Why is someone with no posts more likely to be scum than someone who is derailing conversations where people are trying to get reads?

I dislike this sudden attention to B0stonSC. I was scumreading him too but it's a weak player and an easy push to get the vote off of the stronger players who are acting scummy as well. I can totally see mafia coming in at the end of the day and trying to push the lynch like this.





Yeah it's bugging me too. I don't trust BTDT and reps seems like he's following the "most logical" person or some shit so I don't trust his judgment either. I would rather flip Vivax/ Grack at this rate.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:44 GMT
#656
I really love that we have three wagons that is a very interesting and fruitful EoD even if the final lynch is town
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:45 GMT
#657
On January 08 2017 05:44 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Grackaroni, is Silverwolf scum?

No


On January 07 2017 11:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Which of your posts are townie? Can you tell me why they are townie?


Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me.

It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


i asked first so burden of proof is on you.

Also the question you are asking is not the same as what i am asking. You are asking em to prove I am town not somebody else. My question is asking you to prove your read on someone else not yourself.

Again, show me posts that show the efforts and angles you are talking about. Otherwise i will say your fabricating the read on him.


Then I will alter the task. Prove to me that Silverwolf is town.



okay

You missed the point of the whole exercise.


I thought the point was that you wanted to point out how dumb the thing that ika is doing is. But the way you do it implies hat you think Silverwolf is scum. Or do I read too much into that? (please only answer that if you're not grackaroni)

No I was very clear throughout the conversation that they were town.

Hmm okay

why is he town then? I have her as null.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:46 GMT
#658
On January 08 2017 05:44 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:41 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Why is someone with no posts more likely to be scum than someone who is derailing conversations where people are trying to get reads?

I dislike this sudden attention to B0stonSC. I was scumreading him too but it's a weak player and an easy push to get the vote off of the stronger players who are acting scummy as well. I can totally see mafia coming in at the end of the day and trying to push the lynch like this.





Yeah it's bugging me too. I don't trust BTDT and reps seems like he's following the "most logical" person or some shit so I don't trust his judgment either. I would rather flip Vivax/ Grack at this rate.

You don't trust me but you want to flip Vivax who I just voted.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
January 07 2017 20:47 GMT
#659
On January 08 2017 05:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:44 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:40 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
Grackaroni, is Silverwolf scum?

No


On January 07 2017 11:26 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:25 ika42 wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On January 07 2017 11:19 ika42 wrote:
[quote]

Love the avoiding of my question and instead deflect it back to me.

It goes straight to the heart of the question. If you cannot quote some posts to prove yourself town to me then surely I cannot do so to convince you that Vivax is town

I've already given an answer that I find satisfactory. I like the effort he's putting into the game. I like the angles that he's pushing. I like his attitude and response to being pressured.


i asked first so burden of proof is on you.

Also the question you are asking is not the same as what i am asking. You are asking em to prove I am town not somebody else. My question is asking you to prove your read on someone else not yourself.

Again, show me posts that show the efforts and angles you are talking about. Otherwise i will say your fabricating the read on him.


Then I will alter the task. Prove to me that Silverwolf is town.



okay

You missed the point of the whole exercise.


I thought the point was that you wanted to point out how dumb the thing that ika is doing is. But the way you do it implies hat you think Silverwolf is scum. Or do I read too much into that? (please only answer that if you're not grackaroni)

No I was very clear throughout the conversation that they were town.

Hmm okay

why is he town then? I have her as null.

Because her posts at the start of the day seemed townie to me!

Lol I have feels ok. I think she is town. Nobody else has been asked to specify these reads on people who just have generally active pressure-y townie filters.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 20:47 GMT
#660
On January 08 2017 05:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:44 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:41 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:31 Calix wrote:
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?

My scum leans are B0, Grack, and Vivax.

B0- No objective posts.
Grack- Deliberate intent to derail conversations which could lead to town reads. Believes we should only argue who is mafia and values not finding town reads.
Vivax- Veteran player which defends people when a person should defend themselves.


Why is someone with no posts more likely to be scum than someone who is derailing conversations where people are trying to get reads?

I dislike this sudden attention to B0stonSC. I was scumreading him too but it's a weak player and an easy push to get the vote off of the stronger players who are acting scummy as well. I can totally see mafia coming in at the end of the day and trying to push the lynch like this.





Yeah it's bugging me too. I don't trust BTDT and reps seems like he's following the "most logical" person or some shit so I don't trust his judgment either. I would rather flip Vivax/ Grack at this rate.

You don't trust me but you want to flip Vivax who I just voted.


I wrote that before I saw your vote post. I was noting that Boston's wagon gained traction rather quickly.

(consider me unvoted btw, I just cba to switch tabs)
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