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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
January 07 2017 20:22 GMT
#601
On January 08 2017 05:14 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:01 darthfoley wrote:
I think KSC, Vivax, ME or Boston should all be up for lynch before Grack.


Grack shouldn't be up for lynch at all imo. Why do you even think in order of priorities?


Huh? My point is that there are 4 scummier people than Grack which for D1 is more than enough to shelve a Grack lynch IMO. Why are you questioning me wanting to lynch my scum reads?


Nah I misread that as you wanting to lynch Grack. Quick glance over your filter shows you aren't scumreading him though.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
January 07 2017 20:22 GMT
#602
Btdt is probably town.

See we're getting closer!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 07 2017 20:23 GMT
#603
Day 1 Vote Count

Grackaroni (3) : KelsierSC, Kmatt, reps)squishy
B0stonSC (3) : Calix, Onegu, beentheredonethat
KelsierSC (2) : ika42, darthfoley
Vivax (1) : SilverWolf77
MichaelEhrmantraut (1) : Vivax
Calix (0) : beentheredonethat

Not voting (3) : B0stonSC, Grackaroni, MichaelEhrmantraut

Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Sunday, Jan 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), about 3.5 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread.

If you see any vote out of place, let us know!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:24 GMT
#604
On January 08 2017 05:22 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:16 darthfoley wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:09 darthfoley wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
The huge case on - B0stonSC


+ Show Spoiler [TL;DR] +

On January 08 2017 04:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
The huge case on - B0stonSC


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517593-newbie-student-mafia-xxv?user=B0stonSC

I rest my case.



So, first:
On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts

This is on page 9. He has like 5 pages or so to go for. 10 minutes later, he posts as the very first thing an answer to the questionnaire.

That's it. Off to a re-read it is:
On January 06 2017 12:51 B0stonSC wrote:
About to go do a re read through, because Onegu hasn't posted anything of note since the game started (by of note, I mean anything I took note on)


Question is, why would you re-read the game at this stage? Maybe you missed a big scum-tell or a TMI call even? Was there a blue claim or something? But okay, if you have to re-read, you re-read.
But why tell the world about it? Why not just re-read? To have something to say.

Out of the re-read comes a Onegu vote:
On January 06 2017 13:11 B0stonSC wrote:
yeah Onegu seems suspicious, so

##vote Onegu


There's no reasoning. On the contrary, it's even the first person to have claimed something. Note how Onegu has made 3(!) posts in total (if I got the timestamps correctly). Here they are:

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim

On January 06 2017 09:39 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Could you not



I could. I did. Dont know what you want here...

On January 06 2017 09:40 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:26 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Why?



Why not?

This is not really AI for the Onegu I got to know but of course it's very easy for someone who's new to the site to interpret this as scummy. So easy vote.

And then, the only contribution to the thread before he leaves:
On January 06 2017 15:32 B0stonSC wrote:
The hell is a zj?



Wow. Awesome! When he returns, he doublechecks for his vote which is NAI imho, so pass.
But apparently, the guys has caught up:

On January 07 2017 07:32 B0stonSC wrote:
Okay, so after catching up, I have a few things to respond on.

First, as to why I am not more active, is that I have not a whole lot of time to play mafia during the week, so what I am doing is catching up, responding to everything I feel needs a response, giving my reads, then getting back off. You may flame me for this, but unless it's the weekend this will be how I play. I do have a life you know, but mafia is a lot of fun (which is why I wanted to play it).

As to why I voted Onegu (asked three times, by my count), he has made a claim (with the first post of the game) and then posted a non informative post. That's all he has done. I wanted to see what happens if he gets a bit of pressure on him, but after this amount of time I feel that he is just inactive.

On to my reads, Kmatt feels very much a scummy player to me becuase he is posting quite a bit now, but it doesn't feel like he is accomplishing anything. DarthFoley seems waaaay too defensive, so that seems odd, but I'll keep looking at him so I can get a more solid read. Vivax and MichaelEhrmantraut seem a bit off. Nothing suspicious, but just a bit not quite correct to me. This is more of a gut read than anything else, so I'll be doing a reread (probably today) for just them to see what's up.

The thing is, we HAVE weekend and there's literally nothing that improved in terms of activity so there's a lie. He's not even around right now, or is he.

He explains the Onegu vote with "I want to pressure him" which should be a good idea. But if you're absolutely not grounding your pressure on anything, how is it real pressure? It will work out against you and I assume that he'll know that.

His reads are off. Like, here's a "gut feeling", there's a "seems off" , there's a "seems odd", but he'll of course keep looking at them. That's so wishy washy. Absolutely not liking that.

Promises another reread....

On January 07 2017 07:37 B0stonSC wrote:
Oh, a vote on me! Well, my entrance was terrible, I do admit, but I did address why I did not follow up on Onegu (I just voted to see if he was here, apparently not). I also admit that I am not the most active right now, that's just due to real life. Just read my post here, but the TLDR is REAL LIFE limits my weekday activity.

Yeah now it's weekend where are you

On January 07 2017 07:43 B0stonSC wrote:
Oh I'm definately going to switch my vote, I'm just torn as to who. As soon as I can finish my read throughs, I'll post again about my reads. One more note, tommorrow I won't be online until about 2 hours before the deadline. I am sorry about this, but real life takes up a lot of my time.

I'M NOT VOTING ONEGU BECAUSE PEOPLE SCUMREAD ME FOR IT
GEEZ GUYS IM NOT DOING IT I CANT BE SCUM

this guy is scum


I'm still having trouble wrapping my mind around why people think his vote on Onegu is scummy. I've pointed it out before but I feel like New scum would be very worried about not getting attention on them, and an early vote does the opposite.

Also @ everyone scum reading him for the weekend comment, KSC did LITERALLY the same thing but many people including you, btdt, are town reading him. I don't get why the same action is providing two different conclusions for two different players

Where is KSC doing the same thing? I'm still catching up so I might've just missed it.


On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:

so how you reading ika atm?


Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still.


yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.

i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow.

I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh.

Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment.


That was like a day and a half ago

But that's not the same thing. Boston said literally that he's low activity because it's under the week. He ALSO said that he'd be playing on the weekend, ESPECIALLY since he enjoys playing the game so much.
But he's not doing so. I'm calling him out on that mainly to summon him to the thread if he's lurking but apparently that's not working. Maybe he's just out because it's saturday evening with some friends and having a beer or two.

KSC on the other hand is definitely the guy to simply not give a fuck about what's going on as either alignment tbh.

Like, if you say "i should be there" but aren't, I think that's fair and square and NAI, but if you say "I LOVE the game and I WILL BE THERE ON THE WEEKEND AND PLAY" and then there's no word on you - that's not cool.

However by now he should be there and as active and outspoken as he promised so I assume him not being there is actually legit.

hmm

there must be a whole in mny thinking somewhere.




Boston legit said that he wouldn't be around until 2hrs before EOD iirc. Again, you are not reading the thread closely and this is on the guy you made a literal ISO on.

Not denying that. Catching up is a lot of work, and limiting myself to reading is boring, so I try to pick away at things. That has the advantage that it also gets other people to think (such as you) which again provides content to the game and makes people more readable.

What's an ISO?

Also you're too focused on activity. See the post I did to darthfoley and think about what I said there, I still think there are valid points.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
January 07 2017 20:25 GMT
#605
I'd lynch Kelsier, Boston or ME today.

I dislike that BTDT tried to give Kelsier such an easy townread and then made a case on Boston though. Could be scum who's trying to take the lynch off Kelsier cause I really don't see what makes him so townie. But it's just an unfounded theory for now. Makes it even more tempting to lynch Kelsier though.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:25 GMT
#606
Is there a case on Grack somewhere?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:25 GMT
#607
On January 08 2017 05:25 Vivax wrote:
I'd lynch Kelsier, Boston or ME today.

I dislike that BTDT tried to give Kelsier such an easy townread and then made a case on Boston though. Could be scum who's trying to take the lynch off Kelsier cause I really don't see what makes him so townie. But it's just an unfounded theory for now. Makes it even more tempting to lynch Kelsier though.

You shouldn't put too much weight on a townread that I made based on the very first post that Kelsier did in the game.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 07 2017 20:26 GMT
#608
@Vivax-Why is Grackaroni town? I don't see anything, since he's come back to the thread to make me think he's trying to move the game forward. If anything, he's continuing to pick fights with ika and complaining about it. Reading his filter, I don't see anything that makes me want to give him a townread. No strong pushes, no strong reads, constant arguing with one of his townreads. What am I missing?
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 07 2017 20:27 GMT
#609
On January 08 2017 05:18 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:13 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
The huge case on - B0stonSC


+ Show Spoiler [TL;DR] +

On January 08 2017 04:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
The huge case on - B0stonSC


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517593-newbie-student-mafia-xxv?user=B0stonSC

I rest my case.



So, first:
On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts

This is on page 9. He has like 5 pages or so to go for. 10 minutes later, he posts as the very first thing an answer to the questionnaire.

That's it. Off to a re-read it is:
On January 06 2017 12:51 B0stonSC wrote:
About to go do a re read through, because Onegu hasn't posted anything of note since the game started (by of note, I mean anything I took note on)


Question is, why would you re-read the game at this stage? Maybe you missed a big scum-tell or a TMI call even? Was there a blue claim or something? But okay, if you have to re-read, you re-read.
But why tell the world about it? Why not just re-read? To have something to say.

Out of the re-read comes a Onegu vote:
On January 06 2017 13:11 B0stonSC wrote:
yeah Onegu seems suspicious, so

##vote Onegu


There's no reasoning. On the contrary, it's even the first person to have claimed something. Note how Onegu has made 3(!) posts in total (if I got the timestamps correctly). Here they are:

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim

On January 06 2017 09:39 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Could you not



I could. I did. Dont know what you want here...

On January 06 2017 09:40 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:26 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Why?



Why not?

This is not really AI for the Onegu I got to know but of course it's very easy for someone who's new to the site to interpret this as scummy. So easy vote.

And then, the only contribution to the thread before he leaves:
On January 06 2017 15:32 B0stonSC wrote:
The hell is a zj?



Wow. Awesome! When he returns, he doublechecks for his vote which is NAI imho, so pass.
But apparently, the guys has caught up:

On January 07 2017 07:32 B0stonSC wrote:
Okay, so after catching up, I have a few things to respond on.

First, as to why I am not more active, is that I have not a whole lot of time to play mafia during the week, so what I am doing is catching up, responding to everything I feel needs a response, giving my reads, then getting back off. You may flame me for this, but unless it's the weekend this will be how I play. I do have a life you know, but mafia is a lot of fun (which is why I wanted to play it).

As to why I voted Onegu (asked three times, by my count), he has made a claim (with the first post of the game) and then posted a non informative post. That's all he has done. I wanted to see what happens if he gets a bit of pressure on him, but after this amount of time I feel that he is just inactive.

On to my reads, Kmatt feels very much a scummy player to me becuase he is posting quite a bit now, but it doesn't feel like he is accomplishing anything. DarthFoley seems waaaay too defensive, so that seems odd, but I'll keep looking at him so I can get a more solid read. Vivax and MichaelEhrmantraut seem a bit off. Nothing suspicious, but just a bit not quite correct to me. This is more of a gut read than anything else, so I'll be doing a reread (probably today) for just them to see what's up.

The thing is, we HAVE weekend and there's literally nothing that improved in terms of activity so there's a lie. He's not even around right now, or is he.

He explains the Onegu vote with "I want to pressure him" which should be a good idea. But if you're absolutely not grounding your pressure on anything, how is it real pressure? It will work out against you and I assume that he'll know that.

His reads are off. Like, here's a "gut feeling", there's a "seems off" , there's a "seems odd", but he'll of course keep looking at them. That's so wishy washy. Absolutely not liking that.

Promises another reread....

On January 07 2017 07:37 B0stonSC wrote:
Oh, a vote on me! Well, my entrance was terrible, I do admit, but I did address why I did not follow up on Onegu (I just voted to see if he was here, apparently not). I also admit that I am not the most active right now, that's just due to real life. Just read my post here, but the TLDR is REAL LIFE limits my weekday activity.

Yeah now it's weekend where are you

On January 07 2017 07:43 B0stonSC wrote:
Oh I'm definately going to switch my vote, I'm just torn as to who. As soon as I can finish my read throughs, I'll post again about my reads. One more note, tommorrow I won't be online until about 2 hours before the deadline. I am sorry about this, but real life takes up a lot of my time.

I'M NOT VOTING ONEGU BECAUSE PEOPLE SCUMREAD ME FOR IT
GEEZ GUYS IM NOT DOING IT I CANT BE SCUM

this guy is scum


I do not think activity is AI. When it comes to low activity such as my self I try to be as substantive as possible to make up for it. B0stonSC on the other hand makes a big deal out of his activity, and his posts hold very little objective value. Thank you for presenting your views. I still hold the belief that Grack's intent to blow conversations up and to prevent people from making any progress on leads makes me feel like he is scum. I would say bad town play if he was a newbie, but he is on the veterans list.


Are you calling B0 town? Is it possible that both of them are scum?


I would not go so far as saying he is town, I would hold him as null-scum leaning.

I was trying to defend my stance that Grack has a better scum chance than B0. But I could not come up with an argument that beat BTDT's highlight of my own post here. B0's posts have no value and do not give any leads. I find BTDT's argument to be the most compelling thus far.

[QOUTE]I do not think activity is AI. When it comes to low activity such as my self I try to be as substantive as possible to make up for it. B0stonSC on the other hand makes a big deal out of his activity, and his posts hold very little objective value. Thank you for presenting your views. I still hold the belief that Grack's intent to blow conversations up and to prevent people from making any progress on leads makes me feel like he is scum. I would say bad town play if he was a newbie, but he is on the veterans list.[/QOUTE]
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 20:27 GMT
#610
On January 08 2017 05:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:22 Calix wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:16 darthfoley wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:09 darthfoley wrote:
On January 08 2017 05:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
The huge case on - B0stonSC


+ Show Spoiler [TL;DR] +

On January 08 2017 04:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
The huge case on - B0stonSC


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517593-newbie-student-mafia-xxv?user=B0stonSC

I rest my case.



So, first:
On January 06 2017 11:48 B0stonSC wrote:
Hello! Sorry, hadn't realized this has started. Let me read through everything, and then I'll post thoughts

This is on page 9. He has like 5 pages or so to go for. 10 minutes later, he posts as the very first thing an answer to the questionnaire.

That's it. Off to a re-read it is:
On January 06 2017 12:51 B0stonSC wrote:
About to go do a re read through, because Onegu hasn't posted anything of note since the game started (by of note, I mean anything I took note on)


Question is, why would you re-read the game at this stage? Maybe you missed a big scum-tell or a TMI call even? Was there a blue claim or something? But okay, if you have to re-read, you re-read.
But why tell the world about it? Why not just re-read? To have something to say.

Out of the re-read comes a Onegu vote:
On January 06 2017 13:11 B0stonSC wrote:
yeah Onegu seems suspicious, so

##vote Onegu


There's no reasoning. On the contrary, it's even the first person to have claimed something. Note how Onegu has made 3(!) posts in total (if I got the timestamps correctly). Here they are:

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim

On January 06 2017 09:39 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Could you not



I could. I did. Dont know what you want here...

On January 06 2017 09:40 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2017 09:26 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 09:00 Onegu wrote:
VT claim


Why?



Why not?

This is not really AI for the Onegu I got to know but of course it's very easy for someone who's new to the site to interpret this as scummy. So easy vote.

And then, the only contribution to the thread before he leaves:
On January 06 2017 15:32 B0stonSC wrote:
The hell is a zj?



Wow. Awesome! When he returns, he doublechecks for his vote which is NAI imho, so pass.
But apparently, the guys has caught up:

On January 07 2017 07:32 B0stonSC wrote:
Okay, so after catching up, I have a few things to respond on.

First, as to why I am not more active, is that I have not a whole lot of time to play mafia during the week, so what I am doing is catching up, responding to everything I feel needs a response, giving my reads, then getting back off. You may flame me for this, but unless it's the weekend this will be how I play. I do have a life you know, but mafia is a lot of fun (which is why I wanted to play it).

As to why I voted Onegu (asked three times, by my count), he has made a claim (with the first post of the game) and then posted a non informative post. That's all he has done. I wanted to see what happens if he gets a bit of pressure on him, but after this amount of time I feel that he is just inactive.

On to my reads, Kmatt feels very much a scummy player to me becuase he is posting quite a bit now, but it doesn't feel like he is accomplishing anything. DarthFoley seems waaaay too defensive, so that seems odd, but I'll keep looking at him so I can get a more solid read. Vivax and MichaelEhrmantraut seem a bit off. Nothing suspicious, but just a bit not quite correct to me. This is more of a gut read than anything else, so I'll be doing a reread (probably today) for just them to see what's up.

The thing is, we HAVE weekend and there's literally nothing that improved in terms of activity so there's a lie. He's not even around right now, or is he.

He explains the Onegu vote with "I want to pressure him" which should be a good idea. But if you're absolutely not grounding your pressure on anything, how is it real pressure? It will work out against you and I assume that he'll know that.

His reads are off. Like, here's a "gut feeling", there's a "seems off" , there's a "seems odd", but he'll of course keep looking at them. That's so wishy washy. Absolutely not liking that.

Promises another reread....

On January 07 2017 07:37 B0stonSC wrote:
Oh, a vote on me! Well, my entrance was terrible, I do admit, but I did address why I did not follow up on Onegu (I just voted to see if he was here, apparently not). I also admit that I am not the most active right now, that's just due to real life. Just read my post here, but the TLDR is REAL LIFE limits my weekday activity.

Yeah now it's weekend where are you

On January 07 2017 07:43 B0stonSC wrote:
Oh I'm definately going to switch my vote, I'm just torn as to who. As soon as I can finish my read throughs, I'll post again about my reads. One more note, tommorrow I won't be online until about 2 hours before the deadline. I am sorry about this, but real life takes up a lot of my time.

I'M NOT VOTING ONEGU BECAUSE PEOPLE SCUMREAD ME FOR IT
GEEZ GUYS IM NOT DOING IT I CANT BE SCUM

this guy is scum


I'm still having trouble wrapping my mind around why people think his vote on Onegu is scummy. I've pointed it out before but I feel like New scum would be very worried about not getting attention on them, and an early vote does the opposite.

Also @ everyone scum reading him for the weekend comment, KSC did LITERALLY the same thing but many people including you, btdt, are town reading him. I don't get why the same action is providing two different conclusions for two different players

Where is KSC doing the same thing? I'm still catching up so I might've just missed it.


On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:

so how you reading ika atm?


Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still.


yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.

i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow.

I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh.

Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment.


That was like a day and a half ago

But that's not the same thing. Boston said literally that he's low activity because it's under the week. He ALSO said that he'd be playing on the weekend, ESPECIALLY since he enjoys playing the game so much.
But he's not doing so. I'm calling him out on that mainly to summon him to the thread if he's lurking but apparently that's not working. Maybe he's just out because it's saturday evening with some friends and having a beer or two.

KSC on the other hand is definitely the guy to simply not give a fuck about what's going on as either alignment tbh.

Like, if you say "i should be there" but aren't, I think that's fair and square and NAI, but if you say "I LOVE the game and I WILL BE THERE ON THE WEEKEND AND PLAY" and then there's no word on you - that's not cool.

However by now he should be there and as active and outspoken as he promised so I assume him not being there is actually legit.

hmm

there must be a whole in mny thinking somewhere.




Boston legit said that he wouldn't be around until 2hrs before EOD iirc. Again, you are not reading the thread closely and this is on the guy you made a literal ISO on.

Not denying that. Catching up is a lot of work, and limiting myself to reading is boring, so I try to pick away at things. That has the advantage that it also gets other people to think (such as you) which again provides content to the game and makes people more readable.

What's an ISO?

Also you're too focused on activity. See the post I did to darthfoley and think about what I said there, I still think there are valid points.


ISO can either mean a filter or someone commenting on every single post that someone has made (this is bad).

lol at you, the person who has spent a lot of time talking about his own activity, Boston's activity, etc calling me too focused on activity xD I don't think I have been tbh.

Your wording still pings me ("pick away at things" in this incident) - it sounds opportunistic imo.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 07 2017 20:29 GMT
#611
On January 08 2017 05:25 beentheredonethat wrote:
Is there a case on Grack somewhere?


I was going to make one, but I did not feel it could compete with your case against B0.
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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:29 GMT
#612
On January 08 2017 05:25 Vivax wrote:
I'd lynch Kelsier, Boston or ME today.

I dislike that BTDT tried to give Kelsier such an easy townread and then made a case on Boston though. Could be scum who's trying to take the lynch off Kelsier cause I really don't see what makes him so townie. But it's just an unfounded theory for now. Makes it even more tempting to lynch Kelsier though.

That post is really bad. Like, not only is it putting shade on me for shit reasons (I even said that I doubt that townread before, "I should maybe stop meta people I didn't play with"), but there's also this:

But it's just an unfounded theory for now. Makes it even more tempting to lynch Kelsier though.

Like, it's an "unfounded theory" but it's enough for you to put your vote on Kelsier, making the wagons 3-3-3.
Hm. I can't really grab it right here but something feels really off about this. So constructed and made up.

Vivax, what are your reasons to lynch Kelsier, Boston and ME?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
January 07 2017 20:29 GMT
#613
On January 08 2017 05:26 SilverWolf77 wrote:
@Vivax-Why is Grackaroni town? I don't see anything, since he's come back to the thread to make me think he's trying to move the game forward. If anything, he's continuing to pick fights with ika and complaining about it. Reading his filter, I don't see anything that makes me want to give him a townread. No strong pushes, no strong reads, constant arguing with one of his townreads. What am I missing?


It's very subjective but he's the only one who stood up for me when he didn't have any reason to if he were mafia.

And I can totally understand his frustration when dealing with you and ika cause I've been through that too.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:29 GMT
#614
On January 08 2017 05:29 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:25 beentheredonethat wrote:
Is there a case on Grack somewhere?


I was going to make one, but I did not feel it could compete with your case against B0.

My case against B0 is shit, only the explanations I made afterwards add value to it IMHO. Are you pocketing me here or what
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 07 2017 20:30 GMT
#615
On January 08 2017 05:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:25 Vivax wrote:
I'd lynch Kelsier, Boston or ME today.

I dislike that BTDT tried to give Kelsier such an easy townread and then made a case on Boston though. Could be scum who's trying to take the lynch off Kelsier cause I really don't see what makes him so townie. But it's just an unfounded theory for now. Makes it even more tempting to lynch Kelsier though.

That post is really bad. Like, not only is it putting shade on me for shit reasons (I even said that I doubt that townread before, "I should maybe stop meta people I didn't play with"), but there's also this:

Show nested quote +
But it's just an unfounded theory for now. Makes it even more tempting to lynch Kelsier though.

Like, it's an "unfounded theory" but it's enough for you to put your vote on Kelsier, making the wagons 3-3-3.
Hm. I can't really grab it right here but something feels really off about this. So constructed and made up.

Vivax, what are your reasons to lynch Kelsier, Boston and ME?

Bullet points will suffice
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
January 07 2017 20:30 GMT
#616
On January 08 2017 05:26 SilverWolf77 wrote:
@Vivax-Why is Grackaroni town? I don't see anything, since he's come back to the thread to make me think he's trying to move the game forward. If anything, he's continuing to pick fights with ika and complaining about it. Reading his filter, I don't see anything that makes me want to give him a townread. No strong pushes, no strong reads, constant arguing with one of his townreads. What am I missing?

I wrote a post on Kmatt. That's more than you've done since you've come back?
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 07 2017 20:30 GMT
#617
##unvote
##vote: B0stonSC
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 20:31 GMT
#618
On January 08 2017 05:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:26 SilverWolf77 wrote:
@Vivax-Why is Grackaroni town? I don't see anything, since he's come back to the thread to make me think he's trying to move the game forward. If anything, he's continuing to pick fights with ika and complaining about it. Reading his filter, I don't see anything that makes me want to give him a townread. No strong pushes, no strong reads, constant arguing with one of his townreads. What am I missing?


It's very subjective but he's the only one who stood up for me when he didn't have any reason to if he were mafia.

And I can totally understand his frustration when dealing with you and ika cause I've been through that too.


Is white-knighting not a possibility to you? Why?

As someone who has played with ika/ SW before, I think that's a typical emotion to feel
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 07 2017 20:31 GMT
#619
reps, has your read on Grack changed at all? If not, what makes Boston scummier?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
January 07 2017 20:32 GMT
#620
On January 08 2017 05:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 05:25 Vivax wrote:
I'd lynch Kelsier, Boston or ME today.

I dislike that BTDT tried to give Kelsier such an easy townread and then made a case on Boston though. Could be scum who's trying to take the lynch off Kelsier cause I really don't see what makes him so townie. But it's just an unfounded theory for now. Makes it even more tempting to lynch Kelsier though.

That post is really bad. Like, not only is it putting shade on me for shit reasons (I even said that I doubt that townread before, "I should maybe stop meta people I didn't play with"), but there's also this:

Show nested quote +
But it's just an unfounded theory for now. Makes it even more tempting to lynch Kelsier though.

Like, it's an "unfounded theory" but it's enough for you to put your vote on Kelsier, making the wagons 3-3-3.
Hm. I can't really grab it right here but something feels really off about this. So constructed and made up.

Vivax, what are your reasons to lynch Kelsier, Boston and ME?


Well the main reason I posted that about you is that it's a thought that crossed my mind. That you feel that it puts shade on you is the consequence not the intention. But when you're mafia and your buddy is in danger all you can do is try to take heat off him and push another lynch. And if Kelsier is mafia that's what you could have been doing.

As for my reasons to lynch these people, I think I already mentioned them all. For kelsier you can add on top of my initial reason that he's not playing at all.
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